1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Ashton, Matthew, A little question for you, my friend, what 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: is a super flex for a dad? Reverse parking one handed? 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: There's no other way to park. It's how I do it, ever. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Term, but using mirrors and no cameras, Oh there is. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. But I was going to say, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: knowing that, when your kid is asked the question what 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: does your daddy do for a living, the answer is 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Olympic metal pro snowboarder. That's a big flex. I mean, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't keep you up with that. My kids just 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: say he works on his laptop, He's on his phone 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: the whole time. I know mine's like he wears this 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: silly town on his head. But I understand what's going on. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm entertaining the masses. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, Matt, I don't think our kids are ever ever 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: going to be able to say. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: No, hang on, something is cool a second. I'm thirty eight, 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: ash there is still time for me to be a 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: world champion. It's something you. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Were pretty good on the mountain, I will say, and 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: just a fi We recorded this on a mountain thanks 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: to Red Bull. 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Did they set up this delicious little interview with Scotti James, 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: who his dad to one year old Leo and husband 24 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: to his lovely Canadian wife, Heir Chloe. 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Yes. 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: Scotty James is training for the next Winter Olympics at 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: the start of next year, but this will also be 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: the first time he's juggling it alongside his life as 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: a dad. 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: There's certainly new territory for someone whose whole life has 31 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: revolved around being a professional athlete for almost this is 32 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: crazy twenty years. 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Scotty does bring up how much of a shock to 34 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: the system it was when he realized the shift in priorities. 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Also the other things that come with being a daddy. 36 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: He talks about some of the more messier situations that 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: he finds himself in. As they say in the snowboarding world, 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of you. Let's get into it. 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Three Doting Dads. I'm Maddie, Jay, I'm. 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: Ash, and I'm doting dad with three Scutty. 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh maled it. Very good, very good, Thank you. This 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: it is the bad and the relatable. Now Scotty, legally, 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Ash and myself, we're not allowed to give any advice 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: for yourself. Totally fine. Your void from those restrictions. Loophole. 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: We found a loophole in the contracts. The legal legal team. 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Said, guests, can you say whatever they like, but we can't. 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: This is this is we won't talk about before the 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: show started. 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: When you give me all the advice, yes, absolutely, thank you, 51 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. I appreciate you. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: We'll look at this part right we're locked in a 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: basement right now? Are we in a basement? We were? 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: We normally Scotty record at my house, but we're down 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: at Perisher at the moment, and thanks meant to be 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: in one room. We got pulled out of that room. 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: We got them put into the luggage room where we 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: are now. We set up in about three minutes. 59 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 5: And they cleared all the bags out so quick like 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 5: they were Olympic athletes. 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 4: To be honest, I feel quite comfortable in here because 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: it's very similar to hotel room that I would have 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: stayed at with my mum at some point in my journey. 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: Very misty going to Australian ski resorts so very scary. 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: They were like, you've got thirty minutes and we're like, 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: don't worry, as quick as we can. And then you 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: sat down and said boys, let's drag this out for 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: as long as we can. 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: Listen to here for the listeners at home at perish, 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 5: there's a lot of snow. It's also very windy and 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: very cold, so in here is delightful, real say it, 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: will say so. 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: We usually started the scotty with do you remember as 74 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: a child the worst trouble you ever got? 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: In? 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: Hm, that's probably a question for my mum. 77 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I was. 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: My mum would say constantly. I was presenting a lot 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: of challenges to my parents all the time. 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I would say that with a very big smirk on. 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: I was like, what believe here? 82 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: Probably the one story my mom loves telling the most 83 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: was to be honest. I look at it and I go, wow, 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: that was honestly pretty intelligent. I got down to the 85 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: local milk bar when I was in kindergarten. But I 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: had to get out to go down the local milk bar. 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: My mum was a basketball coach at our local team, 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: and my kindergarten was across the street from the basketball stadium, 89 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: and the milk bar was another five hundred meters past 90 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: the basketball stadium, so it was territory I was very 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: familiar with. I was at the basketball stadium. Every day 92 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: I'd go from kinder of the basketball stamum and watch 93 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: my mum coach these basketball teams. 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: So in terms of. 95 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: Safety and knowing where I was going, it was fine. 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: But the probably the bad part was I remember having 97 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: my friend who's still a good friend of mine to 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: this day because of this. I had him get on 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: his all fours and you know, obviously naturally walking into 100 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: Kindred day so you understand how to pop the gate, 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: and got up, climbed on his back, popped the gate 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: opened up, just headed on down to the milk bar. 103 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: How far was it? 104 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: Like close to a little bit shy of a kilometer, 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: that's still a long way. Yeah, decent, you've been like 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: five or six years old here, right, yeah exactly. So 107 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: then you can imagine now whatever it was recess or 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: what has finished, and they do a headcount and I'm 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: not there, so now it's this, did. 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: You take your mate with you? 111 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: So I get down to the milk bar and sure 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: enough they see me every day, so they're like, hang on, 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: check the time. 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: This doesn't seem right. 115 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: And then the people in the milk bar rang around 116 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: and were like, we have him and my mom at 117 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: this point is losing it because I've gotten out of 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: kinder and you know, end up being this whole thing. 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: So that was probably one of the worst things. 120 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: You're essentially an escaped convict. 121 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: Yes, and your mom had to ring it or they 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: had to ring around and find because I can imagine 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: the panic on your mom's voice then like where is he? 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you what? 125 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: Do you remember the punishment or was it I remember? 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: I don't think I was punished for it. I think 127 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: my dad's the problem exactly. 128 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I knew there was a reason. 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: I think my mum probably just went terminator on the 130 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: kindergarten to be honest, the fact that I even't got out, 131 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: which is fair. 132 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: Enough, Yeah, that's I think that's fine nowadays. 133 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Or kindy teacher must have been like, how the fuck 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: did he get out? You're right there. 135 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: You go to the same gate every day, like my kids. 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: I'm surprised they're too dope to. 137 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: Figure it out. 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: I guess I reckon nowadays it's probably Yeah, it's probably 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: higher than. 140 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Changed the height off the back of that. Also, I think. 141 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: There's a double gate situation, so I think there's two 142 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: gates get into kindergarten these days. 143 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about gates. We have an app, 144 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: so you swipe on your phone on the app to 145 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: get in the technology. You go, yeah, it's like Fort Knox. 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: My daycare had him over. I was thinking, like when 147 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: you were starting to compete internationally. It was from the 148 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: age of fourteen fifteen, Like, if you're a little bit 149 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: cheeky being away from your family and being with other adults, 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: it could have made you grow up really fast and 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: become like more mature, or it could have made you 152 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: even more cheek here, Yeah, which one was it for you? 153 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: To be honest, I was so at first. I went 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: away with my mum to the North Northern Hemisphere when 155 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: we decided I would pursue snowboarding as a profession when 156 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: I was probably eleven, because you need to be quite young, 157 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: even maybe even ten. 158 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: So eleven's really young. Yeah, Like, what were the points 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: that you were ticking off where everyone was going, yeah, 160 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: let's do this because it's a big move. 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: Backflip yeah, backflip was in there for sure. 162 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: No way, it's not really a pathway either, Like it's 163 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: also not that accessible. So it was huge respect to 164 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: my parents to have the courage to let me pursue it, 165 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: because you know, there was definitely not a moment in 166 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: time where we were like this is this is a guarantee. 167 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: It's always you know, it was never a sure thing. 168 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: I've always had like pretty good air awareness. I did 169 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: a bit of trampolining when I was a kid, and 170 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: then there was probably that one that first season I 171 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: went over to the US, and that was a bit 172 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: of a moment where I was like, after this, we'll 173 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: continue or not, because if you can beat you know, 174 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: the US kids and Europeans, then you know, we probably 175 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: should pursue it. It was such a huge move when 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: I was so young. I think you grow up very quickly. 177 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: You know, I'm still ten or eleven years old, but 178 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: once I hit my teenage years, you know, start traveling 179 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: away from your parents. So yeah, I always stayed cheeky. 180 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: But I think I also, although I was young, I 181 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: respected what I was doing, I guess, and I didn't 182 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: necessarily take the piss all the time. So I know 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: it's a massive thing for my parents to do financially, 184 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: but also from a commitment perspective. 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: What are the other athletes like, do they welcome you 186 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: with open arms? There's a little fucking grommet. 187 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: Not as much now like the stuff I dealt with 188 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: when I was a grommet. 189 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: Now, I mean there's there's an HR department now. Yeah, 190 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: in your. 191 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: Head died, you know, being wrapped in toilet paper and 192 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: like getting duct taped to the beds, funny stuff. 193 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you look at the young kids now and 194 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: be like, you don't know how good you've got it? 195 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? I sound a little bit like jaded, like an 196 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: old man. Nah, for sure. I mean nowadays there's a 197 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: lot more cushion around generally everything, So you know, it 198 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: was all parf of the course, and it was fun, 199 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Like it's fun to think about the memories now. I 200 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: remember going to New Zealand. I'm on my own. It 201 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: would have been twelve or thirteen. I was with my 202 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: coach and his sister, Tori Bright, who's a you know, 203 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: very successful female snowboarder from Australia as well. I was 204 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 4: traveling with those two and it was almost like Harry Potter. 205 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: I was like staying in the house, but my bedroom 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: was under the stairs, so when they went to wait 207 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: out in the morning, they'd like, just. 208 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: Stairs. 209 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: It must be hard to find your person, right and 210 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: you've you're married, now you've got kids. Obviously, do you 211 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 5: remember the first time you metlo? 212 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 213 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 4: I remember it very well, and yeah, you're right, it 214 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: was I think, oh god, for sure. I think obviously 215 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 4: traveling so much and her family being in sport as well, 216 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: she and you know her lifestyle, she travels a lot, 217 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: so she naturally just understood. Yeah, I think if I 218 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: was to you know, I grew up in moren Dight, 219 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: for us to date the girl next door, it just 220 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: doesn't quite compute, which I fully understand. So naturally she 221 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: understood it really well. 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: You know. 223 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: That said, it still has its challenging It challenges at 224 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: at moments. But yeah, we met at a restaurant called 225 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: Motel Morris in New York City. 226 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: What did you order? 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: I remember? 228 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Not important. 229 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: I remember a few bottles of red wine being consumed. 230 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: But we had a great time and here we are, 231 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: kid married. 232 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: Was it instant? Like pretty instant. 233 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: I actually met her brother first, and then he loves snowboarding. 234 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 4: That's how we connected. 235 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: That's perfect. Yeah, if the woman you're chasing has a 236 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: brother who's into what you do, yea the dream. 237 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. It's kind of like you get one 238 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: foot in the door. 239 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: One question that we always get, it's like a most 240 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: asked question from people who don't have kids, is when's 241 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the right time? For me? It was a bit of 242 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: an accident, a happy accident with kids, surprised surprise accidents. 243 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, you got my back. You're like, hang on, mat, 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: don't talk about kids. Thank god you're here. Thank you. 245 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: How did that conversation involved with Chloe about having kids 246 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: and starting a family? 247 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's to be honest, we also asked ourselves the 248 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: same question. It's funny you kind of just continue to 249 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: ask it because you have one and you go, oh, you. 250 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: Know, when do we want to have another one? When 251 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: are you ready? 252 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: And I think the best answer to that question is 253 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: you just never are. I think you'll always find a 254 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: reason not to have kids. And especially for us, we're like, oh, 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: you know what about traveling? What that's going to be like? 256 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 4: You know, how's it going to affect your career? Are 257 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: you going to become? For me, my biggest fear was like, 258 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I've sounds a bit grim, but 259 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: like I've got a lot more to go home too 260 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: now because I'm a dangerous sport, and that was something 261 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: that I was very timid about having kids because you 262 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: need to be able to just kind of not you know, 263 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: factor that in. But when so we had a lot 264 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: of different things like that, but we got married, we 265 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: kind of thought, you know, we'll see, give it a 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: little bit of time, and then we kind of where 267 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: we made the decision. To be honest is I said 268 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: to Chloe, I was like, hey, you know, we would 269 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: be so lucky to also have kids because I know 270 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: so many friends of mine that have tried to have 271 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: kids forever, and I'm like, what if we can't have kids, 272 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: and what if we're just thinking that we're going to 273 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: have this fairy tale, which we did in the end, 274 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: which is amazing, But like, yeah, we'll just try and 275 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: then we'll have a kid. It's like it might not 276 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: be that easy. We might have a five year path 277 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 4: ahead of us. Saw never so when we kind of 278 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: talked about that, it puts a lot of things in 279 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: perspective and we'll like, you know what, let's not try, 280 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: but just see what I continue with life and see 281 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: what happens. 282 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: It's meant to be. 283 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: It's meant to be, And sure enough, like bang, we 284 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: got she got pregnant, which was amazing, and I'm a 285 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: bit of a spiritual person in that sense. I was like, 286 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: it was meant to be. 287 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, it changes, it changes your why. You know 288 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: you why? 289 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 5: And like I know when you were saying, like, now 290 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 5: that you're an extreme athlete and you put the word 291 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: extreme in front of it, there's the possibility of serious 292 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: injury and or death, not to make it morbid, but 293 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: like I can't imagine, like, you know, my. 294 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: Thought surrounded by wooden. 295 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Yes, my thought changed. 296 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: And I'm not even an extreme athlete. 297 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: I can't imagine what that thought is when you're standing 298 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: at the top of a run and you're like, what's 299 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 5: gonna happen? 300 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: If I Yeah, for sure, I guess the success is 301 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: in the process, Like if I prepare really well and 302 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: I train well, and I definitely don't stand there and 303 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: think that, and I don't, to be honest, I don't 304 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: think about anything that other than what I'm doing. And 305 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm very present and I know that's where I'm safest, 306 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: and I realize that very quickly. 307 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: Even when he was. 308 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Born, childbirth is a pretty wild experience and I went 309 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: into it pretty naive. I didn't read any books or. 310 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: I did a class, did you. Yeah, it was like 311 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: too Saturdays. 312 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: I pretty much watched the WSL both times the whole time. 313 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: We'll leedit that out of the podcast in there. How 314 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: was it for yourself because you were training when Chloe 315 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: went into labor, Is that right? 316 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: I was in my preseason getting ready for the season. 317 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: I was pretty well away right up until two weeks 318 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: before Leo was born. On reflection, it was because being 319 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: in sport, you gotta be very selfish like I and 320 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: I would say this to Chloe, is like ninety nine 321 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: point nine percent at a time, you're always thinking about, 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: you know, what you have to do to be the 323 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: best or if you want to be competitive. That's how 324 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: you have to think and operate. And she respects that. 325 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: So when you have a family, all of a sudden, 326 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: it's still very much the focus. But naturally, just because 327 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, I like being a bit more of a 328 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: family person. I you know, your attention goes diverts a 329 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: little bit. But when Leo was born, she was born 330 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: on the third of October. It was like a Thursday night, 331 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: and he was born at like three or four am 332 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: or something. And then I remember him being born and 333 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: we had this amazing moment. And then Chloe fell asleep 334 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: and he was like there next to me, and I 335 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: was like laying in bed and I was already like 336 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: looking at the weather and then seeing people training and 337 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: it just like I was like, I've got to go, 338 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: and I couldn't. But that was like myela, yeah, and 339 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: I was like, I've got to go. So I naturally 340 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: did what I thought was right in the moment. Instinctively. 341 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: I left that like a day and a half later. 342 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: Now when I say it out loud, I'm like, what 343 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: a fucking asshole, because I actually feel like that. 344 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: But she again blessed her. She understood. 345 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: But I remember getting to Switzerland, getting on the glacier, 346 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: like gone through the process of going. Thankfully, it's on 347 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: our flight, so I wasn't too far away and I 348 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: got there and I just cried and I was like, 349 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: what the fuck have I just done. I was like, 350 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm here. Yeah, and I think I 351 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: didn't even take a run through the pipe. I got 352 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: back and I flew home. 353 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: I went home. 354 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I can't. I shouldn't be here. 355 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: That was also a really good moment to reflect on 356 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: although you know, I could be perceived as about the 357 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: wrong thing to do, which it was. I also realized 358 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: in that moment that that day that I would have 359 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: got actually didn't affect me in the long run. Like, 360 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: you know, I still won World Championship, I still won 361 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: X Games, I still I still won all the marquee 362 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: events that year. But I look back at that and 363 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: I go, I actually wouldn't have accomplished anything that day. 364 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: I should have just been there, Yeah, Chloe, and I 365 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: should have been there for it. 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: Probably also like have it right because you've been doing 367 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: this for at that point, way longer than you're being 368 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 5: a dad. 369 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been conditioned to just like our work. You know, 370 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, really don't feel like office feeling. I'm 371 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: just gonna pretend sick. You know. You're like, I'll go 372 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: to the gym and I can't be stuff this morning, 373 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: so I'm tired. Whereas for you, it's like, no, if 374 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't do that, Like, yeah, the impact of my 375 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: job is huge when you're trying to be number one. 376 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 5: I love it doing to day as an athlete. 377 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: You can't get Yeah. 378 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: Well, after that, after I went back, I had plenty 379 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: of doing a days. I was there and I loved it. 380 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: When you're very primed all the time and you practice 381 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: and you're there and you're present and you're in the 382 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: moment limits the risk of anything happening. So I also 383 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: think that's a factor. That's why you know, I want 384 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: to train so much. 385 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: Do you think after having Leo you got some dad strength? 386 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: I think I got Dad's strength more so just internally, 387 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: because I remember I had an okay start to the 388 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: season and I was coming into Larks and that's like 389 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: for us as an event, it's the pipe's perfect, you know, 390 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 4: there's nowhere to look in terms of elements. I still 391 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: think that people expect me to fail, like they're way 392 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 4: for me to not win, and I it motivates me 393 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 4: a lot and it's still my driving force. So I 394 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: had that, But then the elevated part of that was, well, 395 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: you expect me not to win and my dad fucking 396 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: watch this. 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's epic. 398 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: And I kind of my brother Tim said the same 399 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: thing to me. He goes, I think everyone thinks that 400 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: you're not going to win this event, and he kind 401 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: of he was like, you need to go out and 402 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: just you know, hypothetically fucking knock him out, and we 403 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: knocked him out. 404 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: We always talk about we love our kids, but it 405 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: is a bit of a handicap. It makes off a 406 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: little bit harder a competition. If you're a dad, you 407 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: get like an extra point going into a competition. 408 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny watching athletes. Any athlete really there a 409 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 5: new dad. Like for example, Reuben Garrick, right from Amly Seagulls, 410 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: he had a kid. The morning of the game, his missus, 411 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: who's obviously in and around the sport of our whole life, 412 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 5: said go and play scored for tries. 413 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like start the game, try up. Yeah, 414 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: he's a dad. Give there sucking he gives already for me. 415 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Now my eldest is six. I've had some dad tendencies 416 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: come through, like now, like every time I get up, 417 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: I forget off the seat. I'll be like if I 418 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: see a nice bit of lorn, I'm like, oh yeah, 419 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: the Se'm like the creeping in. Do you have any 420 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: dad tendencies. 421 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 3: That you're like, oh god, oh, mine's comfort shoes. I 422 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: just won't. I'm like, hush puppies. I'll just if I'm. 423 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 4: Putting on an outfit and you know, I'll try and 424 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: look trendy. It's always I always try very hard, but 425 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: I'm never successful. Nowadays, I'm like, you know what, I'm 426 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: just going to wear my Runners, like I don't care. 427 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the airport. I'm I'm not 428 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to a training camp. You know, I've got 429 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: to go through security. I can whip it on off easy. 430 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 4: I'm just wearing my Runners. I'm not wearing anything that's uncomfortable. 431 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 4: So that probably a big dad thing of me. I 432 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: also heard ankle socks is a big dad thing. 433 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: It's a weird it's a weird length of socks. It's 434 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: not quite ankle, it's not quite long. It's this weird 435 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: in between. Yeah, that they sell and it's like. 436 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: When you're a dad, it looks pretty good. 437 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really I've gone down the ankle sock road. 438 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Wow. 439 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: And I've been several occasions now I've been called out 440 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 4: as a dad. 441 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 5: Ankle socks, New Balance and Jaws. 442 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the look. 443 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: The trifecta. 444 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: You're all over the world all the time. I watch 445 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: you all the time. 446 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: With Chloe also her brother all over the world as well. 447 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: It seems chaotic. Give us an insight to how. 448 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 4: It works for you guys, Well, it is pretty chaotic. 449 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: Call a spade a spade. We actually, you know, we 450 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 4: actually have someone helping us when we're traveling, because, to 451 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 4: be honest, I think between my training, the traveling, the 452 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: time zone changes, you know, my job being pretty demanding. 453 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: Chloe's being pulled around a lot as well. So when 454 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: we travel, you usually try and bring some someone to 455 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: help us. If we don't have someone, then we'll have 456 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: a family member come with us as well, which is good. 457 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 4: So that's been really helpful. But if we don't then yeah, 458 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: I mean naturally, it presents some challenges. And all of 459 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, I used to go through security 460 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 4: at the airport and like it's making me take my 461 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: belt off and do I need to take my shoes off? 462 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? Take your shoes off. I'm like, do I have 463 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: to take like my necklace off? 464 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 465 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh god. And then now you go and 466 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 4: you're like where do I even start? 467 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm here. There's the freaking stroller and then 468 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: his stuff and we saw. 469 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: Reguard to I was like in a buggerboo carrying it, 470 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh god, traveling with kids is hard. 471 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: There are so funny We're always about. 472 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: The light and shade. Yeah here on the podcast. Parenting 473 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: is unique because it has on both ends of the spectrum, 474 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: the most amazing, incredible moments that are core memories for 475 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, but there's also moments that 476 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: so hard and exhausting. What are the really amazing moments 477 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: that you love and what are the moments where you've 478 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: been like, shit, I didn't sign off for this. 479 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: Shit would be a good start Leo's got a habit 480 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: at the moment of just set. It's like seven fifteen, 481 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: and we should have learnt by now that maybe seven fifteen, 482 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: he's gonna take a shit. Go take a shit, and 483 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 4: we put him in the bath because he always eats 484 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: about six thirty and we have a bit of playing time. 485 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: Then he has a bath and he goes to bed 486 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: by seven thirty. But he's in the bath at seven 487 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: and he's got a habit at the moment, which I 488 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: don't blame him. I'm sure it's really nice to take 489 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: a pooh in the bath. To be honest, I kind 490 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: of watch him like, to be honest, I reckon, that's 491 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: probably just really nice. 492 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I'merous, not that I do this often, but taking a 493 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: poo in the ocean A done that very good? Yeah, yeah, 494 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: a bit of wave, so I get where Leo is 495 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: coming from. I sympathize with it. A bit of wave 496 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: actually to wash it out. 497 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: Even more elevated is the lukewarm water, right, yeah, the ocean. 498 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: You know, you can't control that tenure, but he's in 499 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: lukewarm water. 500 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: It's impossible not to ship. Yeah. Yeah. Also the salt 501 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: contains that once it comes out. 502 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: So that's one thing that he started doing. And we 503 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: fair enough we laugh and think it's really funny. Do 504 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: you dig it out of the drain or do you 505 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: stomp it down? It depends, like sometimes they're quite solid 506 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: and you know they float, but then recently they've been 507 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: a bit more. Yeah, the running consistency, so he just 508 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: goes down. 509 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: The bit of force that goes down, put your hand 510 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: in and you're like. 511 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: Oh, but probably one of the more challenging moments. Yeah. 512 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: For me, it's probably just the traveling. 513 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: Like I'm spending so much time away, I feel like 514 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: every time I come back, he's got like a new tooth. 515 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 4: He's like this little time stamp where when I leave 516 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: and I come back, you feel like you're missing out 517 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: on something. 518 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 5: Do you have that fear that you might miss out 519 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 5: on a milestone that you really really want to be 520 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 5: there for? 521 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure all the time. 522 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: How do you battle that when you're also trying to 523 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: stay so focused on sport. 524 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: I just said to Chloe, I was like, he walks 525 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: or something when I'm not around. 526 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: Tell me stay down. 527 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, do not argue you, just stay down on the ground. 528 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: I'm just like, don't tell me, Like, just pretend when 529 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: I come back. 530 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, it's his first step. 531 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be happy. 532 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: I think like where I get a lot of validation 533 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 4: in what I'm doing is that, you know, I hope 534 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: one day you know whether maybe I missed those moments. 535 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: Is like I can say, hey, what when I was 536 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: away when you were little baby, like, this is what 537 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: I was doing, and it was. 538 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: When you're winning World Chair bro. 539 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 5: Like my six year old asked me who I was with, 540 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: and I'll show you guys on YouTube and he'll be 541 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 5: like that is epic And they were like. 542 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Dad, show me you and he's like, that's it. You 543 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: left us for five days for this. Where are your flips? 544 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 5: And for Chloe, obviously she understands the lifestyle, the job, 545 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 5: the career so well that when you mentioned before you 546 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 5: can't marry the girl next door and do you do, 547 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 5: because they would probably get the ships with you that 548 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 5: you're missing these milestones like my wife does. Like if 549 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 5: I'm away and I'm working, it might be a case 550 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 5: which is like, well you missed him doing. 551 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Winning world championship, So anybody that's right, Yeah, yeah, I'm 552 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: on day two, Matt. You never know, there still time 553 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: might get a call up what are the moments that 554 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: you love? But for me getting a smile like that. 555 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: There are people who listen to the podcast who don't 556 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: have kids, and they're probably thinking that smiles at me. Yeah. Yeah. 557 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: The bottom line is if you don't have kids, it's 558 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: very hard to just relate. And my brother would say 559 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 4: stuff before I had kids, and I'd be later, here 560 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 4: we go saying stuff about the kids again. But now 561 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm obviously your dad when now he's almost eleven months, 562 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 4: he recognizes me, like on FaceTime also in person, and 563 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: it's just that little blip that he gives me. He's 564 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: tough and a smile out of but. 565 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: Is the best and we always say there's something that 566 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: kids can give you that nothing else can. Yeah, it's 567 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: that little moment the first time they smile at you, 568 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 5: and it's like it makes it all worth it that 569 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 5: you have the shittest day in the world, even with 570 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 5: them involved sometimes and you're like, you've shadowed me twice today, 571 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 5: but I'm now putting you into bed and you give 572 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 5: me the cheeky smile and you're like, God, damn it, I. 573 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: Love you so much. 574 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: And somehow, if you could just put it in a 575 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: in a pill, maybe we're under something here and people 576 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 4: that aren't parents just like it's. 577 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: That I would know if my wife's listening and my mom. 578 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: But yeah, it is special and getting the smile. 579 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: It's cool now when you compare yourself back before you 580 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: had kids, and I'm sure you know when Chloe was pregnant, 581 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you're imagining what kind of dad you're going to be, Like, 582 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: is it the same the person you thought you'd been 583 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: the dad you are now? 584 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: Ah hmm, it's a good question. I I think I 585 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 4: am the dad that I want to be, Like Chloe 586 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: always says, as much as I'm away, when I'm home, 587 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm very I am super present and I consciously make 588 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: a decision, like get off my phone, and even though 589 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: sometimes like being frank, like sitting there watching him do 590 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: the same thing for an hour is pretty boring, So 591 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: naturally you want to like pick up your phone and 592 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: you know, maybe check something, but I like consciously don't. 593 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: I'm like just I literally stare at him for hours, 594 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: just because I know that when I'm not doing that, 595 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: I've got to go and I'm going to be like, yeah, 596 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: not thinking about it, but yeah, I think I think 597 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: I am, And I reckon you. Obviously also to learn 598 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: a lot from my parents, and then you know, you 599 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: think about things that they did for me and how 600 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: I want to emulate that, and yeah, so I think 601 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 4: I am. 602 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: But that's probably a question for Chloe. 603 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: Well, she's here right now. 604 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 6: Are you going to are you gonna push you. 605 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: You start dancing? 606 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 5: Are you going to push Do you think you're gonna 607 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 5: put the young fella into the family business of snowboarding? 608 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: Chloe's old man. 609 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 4: Funnily enough, when he was like first born, we're having 610 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: a laugh because he was. 611 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: Like, no go cuts, no snowboards, ballet shoes. 612 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 6: He's quite a big, powerful mountain. He's quite a big 613 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: powerful guy, and you'd be like, Okay, why ballet. I 614 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 6: don't know, because I think it's just like so far 615 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 6: from just so far from anything extreme. It's not like, 616 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 6: you know, life risking every single day, but. 617 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: Don't tell a ballet dance of that, bro. We risk 618 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: our lives on the. 619 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: Pier wedding. It's nothing. 620 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 621 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm probably just very I do think about that in 622 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: my case because none of my family professional skills. We 623 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: didn't live at the mountains, we didn't like, none of 624 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: my journey was because of something my family did. I 625 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: think about that. With Leo, I'm like, it doesn't really. 626 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: I don't think it necessarily matters, Like he'll probably pick 627 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: what he wants to do anyway, which I'm like, as 628 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 4: long as you enjoy it, that's all. 629 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: And it's like for us who have slightly older kids, 630 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: it's super cool when they like what you like, even 631 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: just for a split moment. 632 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, girl. 633 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, he wants to play the cricket and they're like, 634 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: fuck off. 635 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: Dan, Matt's getting his nails painted. Yeah, that's great. 636 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: I love it. 637 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 4: But we like now on Sundays, the rule is like 638 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: Chloe will not let Leo yet, I'm like waiting for it. 639 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: Not let him watch TV. Like he won't watch TV. 640 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: He's only ten months old, so he's not really Maybe 641 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: he was parenting my kids at that age. Yeah, but 642 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: she's like, he can't watch TV, and I'm like, all right, 643 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: But on Sundays, rules go out the door, Like, I'm what, personally, 644 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: I want to watch footy, So I'm not sitting in 645 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: a living room like staring at the wall. 646 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, but we're going to put the footy on. 647 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: So now on Sundays I put the footy on and 648 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: he'll sit there standing in his little thing and just 649 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: and it kills her. But you know, on Sundays we 650 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: watch some footy. I get joy out of that for sure. 651 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty awesome. When Leo is all grown up, 652 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: he's an adult. Let's assume that he's going to fly 653 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: the nest. He's no longer living with you and Chloee. 654 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: What is the one thing you would want him to 655 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: remember about the house he grew up in. 656 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: The one thing would be that he always he could 657 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: always come home and know that everything was okay, Like 658 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what he's done, you know, if he's having 659 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: trouble with his friends or anything like. He second you 660 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: walk through your front door, you know that, like mom 661 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: and I are there. 662 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I love that. Also very fitting from someone who was 663 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: breaking out of Kindy's at the age. It's fine that 664 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: you broke out of Guindy. Don't worry about it. 665 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: My mum always says that she's like, if he's any 666 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: thing like you. 667 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a grandparent sentence. 668 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: But it's true though, because I actually I think I 669 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: want that because that's what I had, even though I 670 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: would have you know, did definitely. 671 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: Was a trouble maker. 672 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: I always knew that I could go home and I 673 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: would be like, Okay. 674 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: What's that like? 675 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: Scott, thank you so much for spending some time with 676 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: us today in this. 677 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Lovely log cap. We can just keep We'll stop recording, 678 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: just pretend we're still podcast. Everyone from Red Bull right 679 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: now is like waiting for the open. 680 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: Knot and talking as the weather there's no sun yet, 681 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: let's just keep talking. 682 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Scotty appreciate it. Thank you so much, dude. 683 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks guys for having me. And it's fun to 684 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: talk about dad stuff. So it's actually it's quite refreshing now. 685 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: Like I always talked about sport my whole career and 686 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: obviously still do. But it's really nice to talk about something, 687 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: to be honest, that's so much more significant than anything 688 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: I'll ever do in sports. 689 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: So well, anytime you want, you can come on. 690 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: You want to chat, dads, we're all when you want 691 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: to talk, angle socks, give us a suggests a few 692 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: brands here cheers. Well, what a lovely dad was he joking? Jay, 693 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: he's great, He's great. 694 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: And another big thank you to Red Pull for teeing 695 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: that up for us and having us showing us around 696 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: as well, which was great at an amazing time and 697 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: a great chat with. 698 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Scott And good luck to Scotty James for his next competition. Yes, 699 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: I think it's in China. 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