1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: she made it big on social media when she shared 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: her fitness journey whilst pregnant. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: This is my first blog again, so he might be 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: a little bad. I don't know if it's going to 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: be boring or what, but hope you guys enjoy it. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Tammy's life is far from boring. The fitness influenzer and 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: her family are Australia's answer to the Kardashians. In fact, 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: she's even been involved in a few Kardashian scandals herself. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: A model explains why she had to leave Kaylie Jano's 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher. By sharing her 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty million followers and 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: built an empire worth fifty million dollars. What has really 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships. Over the 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: last ten years, the internet has borne witnessed at three engagements, three. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Children, one epic wedding and now a. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Divorce, Amy and Kate torber And. In this special Outspoken series, 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: we explored the real story behind the rise of Tammy Hembro. 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: When we last Left You. Matt Sakowski had just publicly 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: apologized to Tammy Hembro on his podcast for messaging another girl. 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: He divulged to his listeners that they were in couples counseling, 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and they must have had a fantastic counselor because a 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: month later they were holidaying in Barley with Tammy's ex, 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Reese Hawkins. So at this point, Reese was living full 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: time in Barley, so the trip provided him with an 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to spend some time with his kids, Wolf and Saskia, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: And it really was the ultimate display of co parenting, 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: with Tammy sharing wholesome videos to her Instagram story of 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: her Matt, Reese, and the kids all hanging out together 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: at a beach club. I remember being so surprised when 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: these photos popped up, and I just thought, how did 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Reese and Matt get along? Like, how do you play 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: this one? If you're Matt? I mean, if you were Matt, 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it would be super awkward. But at that time, he 35 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: was obviously really trying to impress Tammy and win her 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: back over. Yeah, he was probably on his best behavior 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and seemingly in a bid to prove his dedication to 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Tammy after the cheating rumors, he got her name with 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: a love heart tattooed on his hip to match the 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: one Tammy got two weeks into their relationship. So he 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: shared the new tattoo in a photo dump to his Instagram. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: And it's always a great idea to go and get 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: inked just after a cheating scandal, to show how much 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: you love yeah, your girlfriend. 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: I know well. 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: By June, wedding plans were back in full swing, but 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: things weren't running to plan, so influencer Sophia Beg, also 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: known as Sofa Dofa, ended up accidentally leaking the wedding 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: invite in her weekly YouTube vlog, so in the midst 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: of an unboxing, Sofa excitedly showed the camera a close 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: up of the wedding invite, which gave away key details. Now, 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: it didn't take long for influencer watchdog account influencer updates 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Au to share a screenshot of the invite from the vlog. 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Amber did quickly take it down, though upon Matt's request. 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: It's likely Tammy or Matt also reached out to Sofa, 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: as the portion of the vlog revealing the invite was 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: swiftly deleted. In terms of the league, Sofa accidentally revealed 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: that the wedding was on the twenty third of November 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: in Byron Bay. However, luckily, the wedding's venue location was 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: admitted from the invite, as Matt had already revealed on 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: his podcast that it was remaining a secret until the 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: last minute. Unfortunately for Tammy and Matt, though, the details 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: that were leaked was enough information for Supus Loose to 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: find the online version of the invite, which gave even 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: more details away. So it included the ceremony time, dress code, 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: where the guests were staying, and the recovery details. Funnily enough, 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: people were really shocked by two details that actually appear 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: on most couple's wedding invites these days. So the first 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: was that Tammy and Matt were having a wishing well. 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: So seven News ran with the headline Ozzy AFR rich 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: lister Tammy Hembro worth fifty million asked for donations at 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: an upcoming wedding to reach reality start. Matt Sakaus really 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: did air dirty with the term donations. It was blown 74 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: out of proportion because the invite literally rated your presence 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: on our day is the greatest gift of all. 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: However, if you. 77 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Would like to gift us something, a wishing well will 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: be at our wedding for your contribution and well wishes. 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: This reminds me a bit of Chloe Kardashian's wedding to 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: lamar Odem. I mean, they were worth absolute millions and 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: they still had a gift registry. It's not like just 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: because you're worth a lot of money that no one 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: gives you a gift for your wedding. I think the 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: difference with that scenario, though, is the Kardashians and lamar 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Odom probably all have really rich friends. Where I'm guessing, 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: particularly Matt's side of the family, they're probably not worth 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. And I don't want to generalize, 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: but I would think that most of the people attending 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Tammy and Matt's wedding probably earn a regular wage. So 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: I think that's why people were like, oh, what does 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: she need the money? But a lot of influences were 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: also invited that would have been worth a pretty penny true. 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it. 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Was absolutely fine that they had a wishing well. I 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: just want to know who got the money, Like, did 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: they split it down the line, did they use them 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: money on their honeymoon? I also want to know how 98 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: much did people give them, Like, was there just some 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: cheeky fifty bucks going or you know, did people actually 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: spend hundreds and hundreds on them. 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: Well, at the. 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Time, there was speculation that the couple were asking for 103 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars, and they actually refuted those claims on 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Matt's podcast. Now, the second detail the surprise people was 105 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: that the wedding was child free. So a lot of 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: people thought it was a bit strange considering that Tammy 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: has three children herself. I mean, obviously her own children 108 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: attended her wedding. Yes, spoiler alert, they were the Flower 109 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Girls and Page Boy. I mean, I get this, though, 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: there's a difference between having your child screaming during the 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: ceremony as opposed to someone else's kid. Now, in late September, 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: two months out from the wedding, Matt Zakowski decided to 113 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: have his future sister in law's Amy and Emily join 114 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: him on his podcast. And I don't know what he 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: was thinking, because it was a shit show from start 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: to finish. Amy and Emily iconically called Matt out during 117 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the interview. They couldn't have made it any clear of 118 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: how much they hated him. Yeah, they literally called him 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: an immature baby, and so that they have massive concerns 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: about their relationship. Emily even revealed that the Hembro family 121 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: had had a crisis meeting after they learned that Tammy 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: and Matt had planned a lope after dating for just 123 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: three months. Here's what Emily said. 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: When you guys said you were getting engaged, I was like, 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: he must be that delusional. I was really concerned because 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: she is, like, she's spontaneous and she's a fun spirit, 127 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: and she likes to do what she wants to do. 128 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: But for a guy to come in and think that's 129 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: okay when she's got a one year old, like I thought, 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: that was a big red flag. 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: It's just interesting going back over all of these details 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and being like, how did this wedding even go ahead? 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Like how were Emily and Amy able to stand up 134 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: there next to Tammy and be bridesmaids? It just blows 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: my mind. Emily also had a serial chat to Matt 136 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: on Mike about the importance of marriage, and I feel 137 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: like this clip is really haunting Tammy at this point. 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Here's what Emily. 139 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: Said, I just hope you know, marriage is a serious thing. Yeah, 140 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: it is actually a serious thing. And like, I hope 141 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy. 143 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna hurt Tammy. I have no intention of 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: hurting Tammy. 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: It's just why I'm listening back to this and knowing 146 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: how quickly this marriage disintegrates. And I just love the 147 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: look on Emily's face, Like when Matt's like, I'm not 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna hurt Tammy, her. 149 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: Face is just like fuck off, Like you clearly. 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Are I mean, how do you listen back to that 151 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: and still air this podcast. And we spoke about this 152 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on Outspokens regular episode, and 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: people were like, oh, it was clearly a publicity stunt. 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. 155 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Like yes, okay, it did get Matt attention, but you 156 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: don't want this negative, yeah attention when you're legitimately wanting 157 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: to get married to somebody. 158 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: Now. 159 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: October twenty twenty four was a massive month for Tammy 160 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: and Matt. At the start of it, the couple created 161 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: headlines for dramatically unfollowing each other on Instagram days out 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: from their Hens and Bucks weekend. So Tammy's account actually disappeared, 163 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: but within an hour it was back up and she 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: was just following one less person, her fiancee. And interestingly, 165 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: at the time of the unfollowing, Matt was visiting the 166 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: markets with his sister Emma, who also unfollowed Tammy. Now, 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: amid the drama going on behind the scenes, Matt found 168 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: time to post a photo to his Instagram story of 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: a Dashound merchandise store at the markets. He wrote, what 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: a cute Dashy store. Now, this post probably seems pretty 171 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: inconspicuous if you don't know the backstory, but Matt's ex girlfriend, 172 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Genevieve Ward, who he dated just before Tammy, as a 173 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: dashound that he lived with and he was quite obsessed 174 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: with this dog, and they also planned to open their 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: own Dashound business together, so it seemed like a pretty 176 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: loaded Instagram story to upload when he was fighting with Tamamy. 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: What I took from this was he was either sending 178 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: a subtle message to Jen saying I want to be 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: back with you, or he was taking a dig at 180 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: Tammy because Jen was possibly a point of contention in 181 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: their relationship. Yeah. Now. Despite the unfollowing, Tammy's Hens and 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: Max Bucks went ahead. On October the fifth, twenty twenty four, 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Matt had a dress up party at Top Golf. He 184 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: actually came dressed as a convict. Well. Tammy went for 185 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: a long lunch with close friends at a fancy house 186 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast. The couple then met up to 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: do their joint Hucks celebration at a Palm Beach residence 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: and unsurprisingly, The Daily Mail sent paps around to Tammy's 189 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: event and they didn't leave disappointed. So they managed to 190 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: get photos of the couple looking like they were having 191 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: a tense conversation. So in one photo it looked like 192 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Tammy was crying. The Daily Mail ran with the headline 193 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: what really happened at Tammy Hembro's Hens party that saw 194 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: her crying and fighting with Beyonce Matt Szakowski. Now. The 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Daily Mail quoted an anonymous source who said Tammy was 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: visibly upset and Matt was trying to comfort her, but 197 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: it was clear she didn't want his affection. The insider 198 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: also claimed that they had a big blow up which 199 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: had been brewing for a while over Tammy wanting a prenup. 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I just think this whole story was actually blown out 201 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: of proportion. I think what happened was the perhaps got 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: a shot of Tammy and matt that looked bad and 203 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: they ran with it, because when you looked a bit deeper, 204 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: there were other photos of them in the same spot, 205 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: laughing and hugging each others. So yeah, I think it 206 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: was blown out of proportion well, particularly because they went 207 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: off and celebrated together afterwards. Tammy ended up addressing the 208 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: rumors in a TikTok video. She labeled the claims that 209 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: she and matt were fighting over prenup as completely and 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: utterly made up, and said that they were in agreement 211 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: from the get go that a prenup was needed. Here's 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: more of what she said. 213 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Firstly, like I cry at the drop of a hat, happy, sad, excited, nervous, scared, 214 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: anything whatever. And in those photos that they literally pressed 215 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: in the article, we're literally hugging. That's like, I just 216 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: I just can watch with these articles. Anyway. The article 217 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: goes on to say that the reason is because we 218 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: there has been weeks of tension because Matthew will not 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: sign a prenuptial agreement. This could not be further from 220 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: the truth, like we have not once, Like a prenupp 221 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: has not once come up in argument for us. We 222 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: agreed pretty much straight away that we would get a premum. 223 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: It just seemed like a smart thing to do for 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: both bearsis like, it wasn't something that we have ever 225 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: thought about once, literally ever. So yeah, this rumor is 226 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: completely and just utterly made up, like it's there is 227 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: no truth to it whatsoever. So yeah, literally not once 228 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: have we ever in our entire relationship thought about a prenup. 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: Like that's a non issue to us, So I don't 230 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: know why it's an issue to. 231 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: Everyone else, considering we are going to be going through 232 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: divorce proceedings between Matt and Tammy. It's fascinating that this 233 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: is all on the record. It's quite funny because a 234 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of listeners have messaged us saying, do you think 235 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski can take Tammy Hembro's fortune. I mean, we're 236 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: not divorce lawyers, but I'm pretty comforted in the fact 237 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: that Tammy has publicly said she got a prenup. Let's 238 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: just hope that the terms are good now. By late October, 239 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Matt found himself at the center of another cheating scandal, 240 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: and this one started when Matt posted photos of himself 241 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: on a private jet with a bunch of mates en 242 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: route to Sydney. So people began speculating that Tammy had 243 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: funded a weekend away from Matt while she was away 244 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: on a travel retreat with fans in Greece. So the 245 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: shit hit the fan when photos of Matt talking to 246 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: several women at a bar in Sydney emerged on Reddit, 247 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: and it didn't take long for the Daily Mail to 248 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: run with the headline Matt Sakowski spotted chatting up a 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: mystery brunette in Sydney after boozy private jet flight while 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro is away in Greece. I'm still amazed at 251 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail's ability to write such along headline. Now 252 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: it turns out Matt was actually on an influencer trip 253 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: with a private jet company called flight Club, and while 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Matt didn't declare the partnership, he tried to tag the 255 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: private jet company but accidentally tagged flight Center instead. So 256 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: it turned out the women he was photographed with were 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: influencers invited on this trip and not some random women 258 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: he just met at a bar in Sydney. And that 259 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: is why influencers really need to declare their partnership, because 260 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: people were so confused about what. 261 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 3: Was going on. 262 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Now Matt came out and he denied he was flirting 263 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: with the women. He commented on a gossip forum post, 264 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: claiming that the women were his mates. He said they 265 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: have the same management company who have met at events. 266 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: He added, the women are engaged and they were talking 267 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: about wedding prep and comparing proposals. Now, one of the 268 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: women featured in the candidate Snaps with Matt Amy Pekeovich 269 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: backed up his story, riding high, I am one of 270 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: the random girls. Matt and I have the same agent, 271 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Slash Management. This was a brand event. Mingling with other 272 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: people that were also invited is normal behavior. You'll need 273 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: to chill out. Lifestyle influencer Olivia White, who was also 274 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: on the trip, defended Matt's behavior, saying vision she had 275 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: shared from the event was used to build a false narrative. Now, 276 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: if things couldn't get any worse. Just weeks out from 277 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: the wedding, Meghan Pistetto dropped a bombshell expose about Matt 278 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: on her podcast So Dramatic. In the episode, she alleged 279 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Matt was a serial cheat who auditioned for Love Island 280 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: UK while he was still dating his ex girlfriend, Genevieve Ward. 281 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Meghan also alleged she had spoken to sources that claimed 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Matt was still in a relationship with his long term 283 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: girlfriend Genevieve when he started dating Tammy. Now. That source 284 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: turned out to be Genevieve herself. At the time, she 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to be identified because she claimed Matt threatened 286 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: to sue her for defamation. Recently, though she's given Megan 287 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: quotes on the record. Now, Matt and Jen's relationship timeline 288 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: has always been a bit murky, Unlike the high profile 289 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: relationships were used to seeing Matt in Jen is what 290 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: you would consider a normy girlfriend and I hate using 291 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: that term, but what I mean by that is she 292 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a public profile nor tried to build one 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: off the back of Matt Now. They went public with 294 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: their relationship in August twenty twenty one, but in May 295 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Matt announced that Jen had broken up 296 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: with him on his podcast. At the time, he explained 297 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: they were still in contact, but the relationship was over. 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: According to Matt, they had been giving their relationship another 299 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: go since being on and off during twenty twenty two. 300 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. 301 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jen and I have broken up. It's sad. I 302 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: guess we broke up for pretty much the reason we've 303 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: been on and off since late last year. We were 304 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: giving it another go across boundaries that I disrespected her 305 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 5: in ways that look I'm not proud of it. And 306 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: when I actually it sounds like I cheated on her 307 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 5: or something that nothing like that happened. It was nothing 308 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: like that. It was more just in a way I 309 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: wasn't loyal to her in situations that I should have been. 310 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: I definitely lost my way. I think that I was 311 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: brought into cultures that are a younger version of me 312 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: and I should have been more true to who I 313 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 5: am now. And yeah, not done that stuff. And obviously 314 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: it was too much for both of us, mostly her, 315 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: and she broke up with me. 316 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Matt also revealed since the breakup that he'd moved back 317 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: in with his mum but remained on good terms with Jen. 318 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: Jen's story was of course different to Matt, so she 319 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: claimed she broke up with Matt because he auditioned for 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Love Island UK behind her back. She also claimed Matt's 321 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: podcast co host Anna McAvoy encouraged Matt to audition for 322 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: the show behind her back because she allegedly thought it 323 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: would help benefit their podcast, and according to Jen, the 324 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: couple continued to date until September twenty twenty three. In fact, 325 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: they had allegedly agreed to be exclusive and we're even 326 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: starting a dashound business together or while Matt was allegedly 327 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: dating Tammy behind Jen's back. Now that Dashhound post Matt 328 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: made when he and Tammy unfollowed each other just seems 329 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: even more. 330 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: Sasti than it really does now. 331 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Jen was absolutely shocked when the photos of Tammy and 332 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: Matt at the hotel went viral. She told me in 333 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: bistetto that Matt would visit her at work every second day, 334 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: they would have lunch together, he sent her flowers. Apparently, 335 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: they'd also have sleepovers, go on dates, go on holidays, 336 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: and even spend every weekend together. I mean, I can 337 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: see why she was so shocked. Where did he find 338 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: the time? I suppose Tammy being on the Gold Coast 339 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: would have helped. Now, according to Jen, four weeks into 340 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: Matt's relationship with Tammy, he was calling Jen NonStop and 341 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: on her doorstep begging for her to take him back, 342 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: and it got to a point where Jen ended up 343 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: blocking his number and also Matt on all social media. 344 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: It gets worse. The date of Tammy and Matt's anniversary 345 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: is the same date as Jen's birthday, and why this 346 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: matters is because in August twenty twenty three, Matt and 347 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: Jen celebrated her birthday together with a staycation at a hotel. 348 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: Side note, it's claimed Jen Paige for the hotel room. 349 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Jen was then shocked to discover Tammy posting about her 350 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: and Matt's one year anniversary on her birthday the following year. 351 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean that really indicates to me that perhaps Matt 352 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: was using Tammy for fame. Surely that was one of 353 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: the big motivators. Oh, definitely, particularly when Jen revealed that 354 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: Matt told his friends that he still loved her but 355 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: the dating Tammy would be huge for his career. It 356 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: also ties in with the claims of Matt having a 357 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: pr relationship with Kira Maguire as well as him auditioning 358 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: for Love Island while he was still dating Jen. So 359 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: when Matt was on Love Island, he went on and 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: on about his type being brunettes with big boobs, two 361 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: attributes that Jen has, while Tammy and Kira they're both blonde. 362 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean they've got big boobs, but you know, only 363 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: one of the two things that Matt is so strongly for. 364 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: It's such an ick for me when men point out 365 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: that their type is just big boobs. 366 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 3: You're just like, Okay, I. 367 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Know it's a thing on Love Island where they all 368 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: talk about their types, but at least be like Jashon 369 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: who's on the current series, and be like, oh, I 370 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: love someone that's attractive on the entire and out like, 371 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: come up with something a little bit better with like, oh, 372 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: big boobs and bro hair? 373 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: What the hell? 374 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Now? Shortly after the episode went live, it was taken down. 375 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Amigan pissetto claims that she was forced to remove the episode. 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: On Instagram, she wrote, my Matt Szakowski episode has been 377 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: taken down by the powers that be. If you would 378 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: like to listen to these episodes in the time being 379 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: until I sought things out, you will have to listen 380 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: to them on Patreon now. Jen was quick to respond, 381 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: writing underneath Megan's post, trying to silence you like he 382 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: did me. He knows I have the print screens, and 383 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: she added a crime of laughter emoji. Meghan quickly re 384 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: shared Gen's comment to her Instagram story and added a 385 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: poll asking her followers if she should publish the evidence. 386 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Their response was a resounding yes. Still waiting for the evidence, 387 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: so I wonder if it will come now. After obviously 388 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: being bombarded with questions, Meghan followed up with another post 389 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: that read, for the record, the episodes were not taken 390 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: down by me, and not taken down because of lawyers 391 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: or defamation. I can confidently back all claims in both 392 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: episodes up with evidence. I will explain why these have 393 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: been taken down in due time, but it has nothing 394 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: to do with me not being able to back up 395 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: the claims in the episode. Now, it turns out that 396 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: Megan and Matt both were signed to the same podcast network, 397 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: and Meghan recently claimed in an episode of So Dramatic 398 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: that Matt got her fired from the network for doing 399 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: the episode on him. It was an interesting move by 400 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: the podcast network because Meghan Pastado's podcast continuously ranks Matt's 401 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: SO and the fact that Megan had been working with 402 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: his podcast network way longer than Matt. He only recently 403 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: signed to that network, clearly off the back of his 404 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: relationship with Tammy. I don't think they would have been interested. 405 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see what happens to the podcast 406 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: now now. Matt didn't publicly acknowledge the episode. Instead, he 407 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: stoked the flames on TikTok, uploading a video with Tammy 408 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: with the caption imagine talking shit about us when we 409 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: just at sushi train like this now. Someone actually tagged 410 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: outspoken in it and wrote, Outspoken, we're looking at you. 411 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Matt replied, saying there is a couple of them going 412 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: around trying to make a dollar off of us. We 413 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: ended up replying we're looking forward to the wedding of 414 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: the year, which we really were at the time. I 415 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: found Matt's commentary rather ironic when you consider everything that's 416 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: gone down Now, two weeks out from the big day, 417 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Matt really began milking the wedding for content and sponsorship deals. 418 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Not only did Tammy make another appearance on his podcast 419 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: to talk about the big day, but he also shared 420 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: back to sponsored reels using the wedding as a hook. 421 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: The first one was an ad for oxy Shred to 422 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: do it justice, Let's throw to some of the ad. 423 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: The only thing that I've been stressed about leading into 424 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 5: my wedding is my web shred now jokes aside. I've 425 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: been using oxy s tread now for a couple of months. 426 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: I knew this would be my go to when trying 427 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: to lean up for the big day. 428 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: The fake laugh like was he referring to the stress 429 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: of all the speculation that had been happening or just 430 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: wedding planning now. The second reel was part of an 431 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: ongoing partnership with a numbing cream brand. Ironically, Matt did 432 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: an ad with the company earlier in the year to 433 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: help him get through the process of removing a tattoo 434 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: of Genevieve's name from his ass. This time around, he 435 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: used it to numb his skin before getting a tattoo 436 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: dedicated to the wedding. I mean, clearly he doesn't learn 437 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: from his mistakes. The tattoo in question said always and 438 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: forever and. 439 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: Was written in tammy. 440 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: Hembrose Hanradi says, another opportunity for NUMBERT to be a 441 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: sponsor when he has that one removed. No, there's just 442 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: ongoing deals here. Let's row to the ad. 443 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: I wanted to get a tatoo to dedicate my love 444 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 5: to my fiance. But the pain I was not about. 445 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: I wanted to enjoy this sentimental moment and not think 446 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: about the sting of the tattoo. So I have partnered 447 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: with Numbing Cream which is number one numbing cream in 448 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: Australia pharmacies. 449 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Side note, Tammy Hembro has the most gorgeous handwriting that 450 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Everlia does. It's on par with megamarcles. Now the wedding 451 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: content from Matt continued. He shared a reel of his 452 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: final farewell with Tammy before the big day and someone commented, 453 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: you're pooh, Matt, and weren't you trying to get back 454 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: with Genevieve while you were seeing Tammy? Lmao, we've seen 455 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: her screenshots now. Matt responded, what screenshots? Two people talking 456 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: about me? Anyone can do that? Show me messages from 457 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: my number dated Please won't find it because it never happened. 458 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: Now. 459 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: On the twenty third of November twenty twenty four, Tammy 460 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: Hembro married Matt Sakowski in Byron Bay. The wedding took 461 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: place at a French inspired luxury estate on the outskirts 462 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: of Byron Bay and controversially the Daily Mail were the 463 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: first to publish photos of the newlyweds after flying a 464 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: drone over the ceremony. I mean, is not totally surprising 465 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: that the paparazzi were able to track down this wedding, 466 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: considering Sofa Dova accidentally leaked the inverie month earlier. As 467 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: if the Daily Mail ended up getting aerial shots of 468 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: the ceremony, which immediately got people talking due to the 469 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: strange setup. Yeah, it was pretty unusual because Tammy and 470 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: Matt did their vows standing on the top row of 471 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: these grand stairs in front of the chateau, and it 472 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: looked absolutely stunning. But the issue was that the bridal 473 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: party and guests were so far away from the action. 474 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: So the bridesmaids and groomsmen stood on a lower level 475 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: far away, and as for the guests, they were even 476 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: further away, seated within the swimming pool enclosure that was 477 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: fenced off within a hedge. The guests also went even 478 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: facing the bride and groom. They were set either side 479 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: of this pool facing each other, so they had to 480 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: crane their necks to watch the ceremony. Then they were 481 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: the unlucky guests who had to stand behind the seated guests. 482 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: As for Tammy's kids, they were seated within this pool area, 483 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: despite the fact that Saskia and Posey were flower girls 484 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and Wolf was a paid I saw a video with 485 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: Matt and Tammy after the wedding and they were both saying, actually, 486 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: everyone had a great view of the wedding. 487 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: It just looked weird from the aerial shots. 488 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if the guests actually back up what Tammy 489 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: and Matt said or if they were just being poor. 490 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: There were also a lot of questions around how Tammy 491 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: actually walked down the aisle because the pool was in 492 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the direct path. I thought with the budget Tammy had, 493 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: she may have had a perspect runway so she could 494 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: have walked across water to get to Matt. However, she 495 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: ended up walking down one of the sides of the pool. 496 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Tammy also had to do the walk by herself because 497 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: her dad, Mark Hembro, missed the ceremony at the last 498 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: minute after pulling a ligament in his leg at the hairdresser. 499 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: So he'd gone to get a haircut the day of 500 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the wedding and felt something snap in his leg and 501 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: ended up in hospital. He arrived at the reception on crutch. 502 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that was an omen It was like a warning 503 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: so many omens. Now, as for Tammy's dress, she wore 504 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: three so the ceremony dress was the most iconic of 505 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: her looks. It was a Vera Wang blush pink gown. 506 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: It had a corset bodice with an elaborate chill train 507 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: and a very long ivory veil. It's believed the dress 508 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: was gifted to Tammy by Vera Wang. So back in February, 509 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: she shared vision of her trying on wedding dresses at 510 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: the designer's Sydney store, despite declaring a month earlier in 511 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: Matt's podcast that she'd already bought a dress. Now, unexpectedly, 512 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: the dress that Tammy ended up choosing from Vera Wang 513 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: was actually off the rack. It wasn't a custom gown, 514 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: and the dress was called the Vera Dress, and it's 515 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: five years old. It retails for twelve eight hundred dollars 516 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: and it was actually the last dress that Tammy tried 517 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: on at her appointment. And as soon as she put 518 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: it on, she said she felt like a princess. She 519 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: also really liked the fact that it wasn't white. She 520 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: said it appealed to her because her relationship with Matsakowski 521 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a conventional one. Overall, the dress seemed to be 522 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: a big hit. Many of our listeners at the time 523 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: said she looked straight out of the Barbie movie and 524 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: that she'd never looked better. As for her other wedding looks, 525 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: she finally had her white moment wearing the Camille gown 526 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: from Vivian Westwood as for a third look. It was 527 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: designed by Carla Gill and featured Chantilly lace detailing and 528 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: along Georgette side train. Now, if anyone likes these wedding dresses, 529 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: as we mentioned on our podcast this week, Tammy is 530 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: currently selling them, you just have to hit her up 531 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: via DM. 532 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: Well. 533 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: One thing that's going to take longer to get rid 534 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: of is the wedding tattoo. So Tammy joined Matt in 535 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: getting a custom tattoo for their marriage. She got their 536 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: wedding date tattooed on her wrist. This is the deal 537 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: that just keeps on giving to this mumming cream company. 538 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll ditch Matt and sponsor Tammy. That's 539 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: at least two tattoos she'll need remove now from her body. 540 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: This is why I can't stand when people get their 541 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: partner's names tattooed on them. You just never know what 542 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: is going to happen. I mean, you'd hope getting a 543 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: tattoo to celebrate your wedding would be a surefire thing 544 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't have to get that removed. I mean 545 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: in saying that, isn't the stat like, over fifty percent 546 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: of marriages and in. 547 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: Divorce, how many ended tullis? 548 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, But with Tammy, I mean she got the first 549 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: one two weeks into their relationship. What was she think? Well, 550 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: maybe because she had that one, she was like, fuck it, 551 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go all in. 552 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: Now. 553 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: Getting back to the wedding, there were a bevy of 554 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: influencers in attendance, including Ruby Tuesday. Matthews. M Davies was 555 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: also there and she broke the no kid rule by 556 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: bringing her newborn daughter, Eiler. Lily Brown was also there, 557 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: and of course Matt's co host Anna McAvoy. 558 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 559 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: Anna ended up being accused of trying to steal the 560 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: spotlight from Tammy because she wrapped up in a navy 561 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: gown with a plunging neckline and a thigh high split. Ironically, 562 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Tammy was accused of doing the same thing at Ana 563 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: McAvoy's wedding earlier. 564 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: In the year. 565 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail always accused someone of trying to steal 566 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: the freaking spotlight at a wedding. Ridiculous Now, Sofa Dofah 567 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: was a notable absentee. As we touched on earlier, she 568 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: was the reason the wedding invite got leaked. Tammy and 569 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Matt actually spoke about having to cut the guest list 570 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: back on Matt's podcast. I wonder if she was one 571 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: of the first to go. She ended up attending a 572 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: friend's twenty first instead that weekend. Now, a lot of 573 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: people were dying to see the official wedding photos from 574 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: the day, but we were left waiting because Tammy and 575 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Matt's post was delayed due to them signing an exclusive 576 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: deal with Vogue. I mean, thank goodness of the Daily 577 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Mail being the pricks that they are and flying that 578 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: drone over so we got the unofficial photos from the day. 579 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: But I really did want to see the professional photos 580 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of chat about The Daily 581 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: Mail turning up the saturation and Tammy's dress not being 582 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: as pink as it appeared in the drone shots. Can 583 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: you imagine how pissed off Vogue would have been that 584 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: they got those shots. Oh, they would have been so 585 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: mad in saying that, though they did get all the 586 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: details thanks to an in depth interview that they did 587 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: with Tammy, they ended up sharing sixty three photos from 588 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: the big day as well. Another part of the deal 589 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: with Vogue was the announcement post. So interestingly, it was 590 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: just Vogue and Tammy who collaborated on the official wedding post. 591 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: Matt was not a collaborator or even tagged in the post. 592 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: His name was simply how because he is not as 593 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: big as Tammy Hembro Or is this because Tammy had 594 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: already blocked him by the state this stage, Yeah, two 595 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: days after the wedding, they weren't following each other. I 596 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: want to know if this Vogue spread was the nail 597 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: in the coffin, because TikTok is a buzz with this 598 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: theory that Vogue weddings are more likely to end in 599 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: short lived marriages, with couples divorcing usually a year or 600 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: less later. It's called the Vogue curse, and it seems 601 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: legit in this even I just think this marriage was 602 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: cursed from the start. I don't think it had anything 603 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: to do with Vogue. I think you're right now. In 604 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: December twenty twenty four, Matt and Tammy surprised their followers 605 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: by honeymooning in Lapland, so they bucked the trend of 606 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: going somewhere tropical and enjoyed an early white Christmas. And 607 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I think it was at this point where Tammy's fan 608 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: started to get a bit of a soft spot for 609 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Mat because their honeymoon content was next level. They shared 610 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: the stunning views of the northern lights, and the TikTok 611 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: content was pretty epic. They were playing in the snow 612 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: together doing all these really cool Christmasy things. At one 613 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: point they even got stranded out in the cold because 614 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: Matt forgot to bring the key card down with them. Well, 615 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people were just surprised 616 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: that the wedding had gone ahead, and so we kind 617 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: of had to go through this stage of well, let's 618 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: accept this relationship. Yeah, people are probably like, oh, maybe 619 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: it is the real deal now. In the new Year, 620 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Matt really overshared about his honeymoon on his podcast. He 621 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: said that he and Tammy had sex under the northern lights. 622 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: So on the first night of their honeymoon, He said 623 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: they got woken up by their tour company to let 624 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: them know that the Northern Lights were visible. So, after 625 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: viewing the once in a lifetime attraction, Matt said he 626 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: and Tammy returned to their hotel room and ticked something 627 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: off their bucket list. Here's what he said. 628 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: But then we came back to the resort and we 629 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: went into the spa at like two thirty am and 630 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: we literally watched the Northern Lights dancing above USA. Made 631 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 5: love on the northern lights. That's a bucket list fun. 632 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 5: There too much honeymoon, give us a preak. So that's 633 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: a bucket list thing. 634 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Only making love part we want to hear about. 635 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so under the northern lights, that's a cool thing 636 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 5: to do. 637 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty. That's a pretty good way to consummate the marriage. 638 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was cute. Yeah, it was nice. 639 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 640 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, can anything be private these days? 641 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Tammy loved that tidbit being released to 642 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: the public. 643 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: Now. 644 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: In late January, media publications were a buzz with reports 645 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Tammy and Matt had a public spat at the Australian Open. 646 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: So Tammy and Matt were being hosted by Chemist Warehouse 647 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: and given VIP suite seats worth nine hundred and fourteen 648 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: dollars per person. So news outlets reported that patrons were 649 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: shocked by the couple's behavior. A witness told The Daily 650 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Mail they heard Tammy say get your stuff out of 651 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: my house. Another onlooker commented, one thing is for sure, 652 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: The Australian Open won't be having them back next year. 653 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Tammy ended up turning to the Gold Coast without Matt 654 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: while he stayed in his hometown of Melbourne partying with 655 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: his friends. Tammy was then spotted without her wedding rings. However, 656 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: it didn't take her long to act like nothing had happened, 657 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: as she shared a date night with Matt at the movies. 658 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: Over the next five months, breakup rumors continued to follow 659 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: the couple. It was really clear that they were on 660 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: a break at the very least, with Matt relocating back 661 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: to Melbourne and working his old job at his dad's 662 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: pool company. Yeah, and he was also a notable absentee 663 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: at key family events including Tammy's birthday, Wolfe's birthday and Easter. 664 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Then you had the couple constantly unfollowing and re following 665 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: each other as well as Tammy posting with and without 666 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: her engagement ring, and it seemed like it was only 667 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: a matter of time until a break up announcement was 668 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: coming when Tammy's best friend Isabelle laws unfollowed Matt on 669 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Instagram not to mention. When Tammy and her sisters launched 670 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: their supplement companies Selfish, and Matt was nowhere to be seen. 671 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: He was either Mia from his socials posting about going 672 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: to the movies by himself. He threw a spanner in 673 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: the works in May, though, when he appeared on the 674 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: Inherited podcast where he spoke about the importance of being 675 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: a stepdad and his relationship with Tammy. Is likely though, 676 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: that that episode was pre recorded. Yeah, it was a 677 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: bit of a strange move from Inherited. They're normally so 678 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: good with the people that they choose to interview, but 679 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: they got a bit of backlash for including Matt. 680 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 5: Now. 681 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: On the twenty second of June twenty twenty five, Tammy 682 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: announced the news we were all waiting for. She was 683 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: divorcing Matt Sakowski after seven months of marriage and after 684 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: five episodes. It is at this point where we are 685 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: going to wrap up this deep Dive. Over the last month, 686 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: we have covered the divorce announcement as subsequent fallout in depth, 687 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: So if you are new here and haven't heard those episodes, 688 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: check them out in our back catalog from June and July. Amy, 689 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely exhausted. I have been in the world of 690 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro since March putting this deep dive together. Yeah, 691 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: I feel like this is just on pause though, because 692 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: there's can be so much that comes out over the 693 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: next couple of months. I'm sure we will cover it 694 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: in our episodes on Outspoken. Yes, I'm sure by Tuesday 695 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: we'll have something new to talk about with Matt and Dammy. Now, 696 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: next week we're going to be making people feel very 697 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: nostalgic because we are dropping our deep dive series on 698 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Freely The Banana Girl. 699 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: Gosh, what a blast from the past. 700 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wild to go back and look at 701 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: this time, particularly under the lens of twenty twenty five. Like, 702 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I cannot believe some of the things that went on 703 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: back in the twenty tens. 704 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: We can't wait to share that with you now. 705 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the 706 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 707 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: We pay respect to elders past and present, and. 708 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: If you do enjoy the show, we would love it 709 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: if you could leave us a five star review. Also, 710 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: if there's an influencer you'd like us to do a 711 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: deep dive on, please message us. 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