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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry

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Speaker 1: Holy mackerel. I have just interviewed a living legend, Sebastian Terry.

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Speaker 1: He's known for creating this list one hundred things, and

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Speaker 1: basically he experienced a tragedy when he was twenty four

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Speaker 1: years old and it made him reevaluate his life and

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Speaker 1: if he was happy or not. And he realized that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't happy, and so created a list of all

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Speaker 1: these things that he wanted to do that were ultimately

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Speaker 1: pretty purpose driven. And he's written a book, he's done

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Speaker 1: a reality show, he's done keynote speaking all over the world.

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Speaker 1: And in this chat, we just have a really honest

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Speaker 1: talk about things on his list, things on my list,

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Speaker 1: but also we dive into a bit of human behavior too.

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Speaker 1: I learned loads I was so inspired, and to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, there were moments where I was getting

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Speaker 1: a little bit teary because this guy is the real

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Speaker 1: deal and absolute legend and super and I know this

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Speaker 1: word gets bandied around loads, but super authentic and I

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Speaker 1: think when you meet people like that that are just

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Speaker 1: straight up honest and unapologetically themselves, it feels really awesome. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're awesome, Seb. So enjoy this chat now. In the

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Speaker 1: podcast notes, I'm going to have you'll hear me reference things.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put links to the Jack Garrett Garrett

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Speaker 1: song that I reference here. Also Sebastian's online course as well,

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Speaker 1: and he did mention that if you mentioned this pod,

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Speaker 1: he'll give you a discount. I'm going to sign up

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Speaker 1: to it. I think it sounds unreal and I'd love

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Speaker 1: a community to help me hold me accountable, inspire me

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Speaker 1: to go after my things on my list, because you'll

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Speaker 1: hear me saying this chat, some of the things are

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Speaker 1: really scary and yeah, so we talk about facing fears,

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Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, doing things for yourself and

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Speaker 1: doing things for others. Anyway, I'm totally rambling now. I

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Speaker 1: hope you love this chat as much as I did, Seb.

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Speaker 1: You're a champion. Big love, bye, Sebastian, Terry, Hello, thanks

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Speaker 1: for jumping on the pod.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to be doing this in person.

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Speaker 1: I want to start totally right. I want to start

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Speaker 1: by quoting something I saw you say, walk the path

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Speaker 1: of comfort or strive for things that make us feel alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How good? Is that kind of like your I feel

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Speaker 1: like that is a big part of your mantra, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so it's not like thought out.

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Speaker 3: I think I actually said that moments before jumping out

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Speaker 3: of a plain naked. Is that where you saw that

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Speaker 3: on that documentary?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, they will like say something, so it seemed appropriate.

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Speaker 3: But no, I think there's something to it for sure.

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Speaker 3: I you know, my dad actually once said to me

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Speaker 3: something like I can't remember his quote, but it was

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Speaker 3: something like, I'd rather live a day as a wolf

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Speaker 3: than a thousand days as a sheep.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that, And there's something.

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Speaker 3: To do with that, right, Like, you know, trying to

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Speaker 3: just explore life while we're here, really, and that is

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Speaker 3: absolutely how I live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I So before I started researching, I thought I was

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Speaker 1: quite an adventure. I was like, I've skydived, I've swam

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Speaker 1: with whale sharks. Oh yes, And then I see you

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Speaker 1: skydive nude, Like you just take it over to another

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Speaker 1: level and I'm so excited. To have a chat about,

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Speaker 1: especially some of the things on your list. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, let's go back in time to you when

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Speaker 1: you were twenty four years old. Can you show a

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Speaker 2: And Chris, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well at that point I had you know, I grew

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Speaker 3: I went to university, so I was told I should.

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Speaker 3: Then I just went backpacking overseas, no real agenda. And

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Speaker 3: You know, I had gone to school with Chris, played

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Speaker 3: Or ultimately was he happy? And I came to the

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Speaker 3: I just wondered, like, if I died today all that day,

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Speaker 3: Almost instantly, I was like, oh, my gosh, I would

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Speaker 3: I just followed and conformed, and yeah, I thought, shit,

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Speaker 3: of course led me to a moment in that night

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Speaker 3: And I just began writing a list of things. And

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Speaker 3: that was the beginning of this list of one hundred things.

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Speaker 3: And I know, of course, shortly after I pursued.

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Speaker 1: That, and then from that you've got a best selling

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Speaker 1: book as well. You're a keynote speaker. You speak all

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Speaker 1: over the world. I've watched a few ted X talks too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go are you good? Also, you're always barefoot. I've noticed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's I get asked about my feet more

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Speaker 3: it was really fun. I do wear like thongs or

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Speaker 3: are disgusted with me. But what are you doing, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it just organically like kind of struck a chord to people.

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Speaker 3: And as you say, like there's you know, there's a book,

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Speaker 3: morning virtually for a company in London, and there's a show.

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Speaker 3: It's bizarre how it's grown.

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Speaker 1: I believe there was a show, but it lends itself

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what's happened is like I've of course done

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Speaker 3: not all my things, actually seventy six things on my list,

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Speaker 3: so I still got twenty four lests. But it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like it's been a very positive catalyst for you know,

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Speaker 2: We all do, right, Yeah, And.

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Speaker 3: So I spent a lot of time kind of helping

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Speaker 3: wasn't about my list. It was about me helping individuals

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Speaker 3: achieve their goals. Yeah, but you know, at the same time,

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Speaker 1: And was this all was this kind of spurred from

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Speaker 1: number twenty six when you had kind of like ticking

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Speaker 1: off things like you got to pash off with Sharon Osborne, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But number twenty six was to help someone, right specifically.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, number twenty six was help a stranger.

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Speaker 3: I said, I was doing all these things for myself,

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Speaker 2: Because I think the long run is that you're able

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Speaker 1: It's the airplane thing, right, Yeah, when the oxygen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so twenty six would help the stranger. And that's

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Speaker 1: So he had limes disease? Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Mark had limes disease, which he.

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Speaker 3: and limes disease made him a cordriplegic, can't talk, can't

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he just wanted me to shave his head,

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Speaker 3: He tried to communicate with me, and I didn't understand

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Speaker 3: complete a half marathon. Yeah, And I said, how can

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Speaker 2: Great and yeah he said, he said, push me.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. It was the best thing I've ever done

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was the best thing I ever did

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Speaker 3: others that you know, it could be almost losing their

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Speaker 3: own life, or losing a job, or coming out of

437
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Speaker 3: a relationship or you know, any number of these things

438
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Speaker 3: which are really common The narrative that we hear often

439
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 3: is it's those people when they hit kind of a

440
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Speaker 3: rock bottom or a dark moment, that then go, hang

441
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Speaker 3: on what's important to me? You know, someone's diagnosed with

442
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Speaker 3: cancer and they'll go shit in that moment of reflection,

443
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 3: I haven't done these things. And it's those people that

444
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 3: we often hear then go and do all the wonderful

445
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Speaker 3: you know, climb a mountain, write a book, proposea I

446
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: love you, say I'm sorry, learn to yodel or whatever

447
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: it is nice? Right, So yeah, and that as you

448
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: say again, it's like, well do those people think are

449
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: they brave but maybe a little bit? Or are they

450
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 3: lucky or special?

451
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: Like I do?

452
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 3: Ah?

453
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, neither am I? Neither's mark who I? You know?

454
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 3: I pushed in the in the whichever the half marathon.

455
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 3: The commonality is everyone gives themselves permission. You know what,

456
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Speaker 3: screw everything for a second. I'm just going to think

457
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 3: about myself. That's giving yourself permission. And when you start

458
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: thinking about yourself and acknowledging your values and identifying things

459
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Speaker 3: that again light you up. A list of goals come

460
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: up which are truly meaningful to you. And then it's

461
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: about choosing giving yourself permission to choose to pursue them.

462
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Speaker 1: I like it is that what happened when you and

463
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Speaker 1: I know I'm going back in a little time more

464
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Speaker 1: per but like when you said to your family, Yo,

465
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Speaker 1: I've got this list. Yeah, I'm going to fly the

466
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Speaker 1: coup like I'm out, Like I'm going to honor this,

467
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Speaker 1: And was your mum's response, like, go and buy a suit,

468
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Speaker 1: get a job in the city. Like You've got to

469
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Speaker 1: have a sense, yes, definitely understanding your own values, but

470
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Speaker 1: also kind of this sense of backing who you are. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: on like a deep core kind of level to be

472
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Speaker 1: able to be like thank you. I like fully understand

473
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Speaker 1: that this is coming out of protection, but I'm giving

474
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Speaker 1: myself permission to go after what feels like more in

475
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Speaker 1: line with my purpose.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that you're right. I didn't get supported by anyone.

477
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Speaker 2: You know.

478
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Speaker 3: My mum was in tears, and you know, I remember

479
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Speaker 3: saying to her. We had a phone call like three

480
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Speaker 3: months into me having left Australia. I was like, oh, mom,

481
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Speaker 3: I'm so I've done this. You know, I've taken on

482
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Speaker 3: a world champion. I visited an inmate on death row

483
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Speaker 3: I went to burning Man all things on my list,

484
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Speaker 3: and she just paused, and when you're going to come

485
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Speaker 3: home and get a real job, And I remember, soe you.

486
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Speaker 3: I didn't have the like understanding then that as you say,

487
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Speaker 3: it was just coming from a place of protection and love.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I don't know. I just had it.

489
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Speaker 3: I had a very clear moment, an extraordinarily clear moment

490
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Speaker 3: where again in Canada, when I was processing, when I've

491
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Speaker 3: just been told on the phone that I I realized

492
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Speaker 3: I was unhappy and I couldn't think anything more important

493
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Speaker 3: than me feeling happy.

494
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Speaker 2: And I still to this day, you know, what are

495
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Speaker 2: we doing?

496
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Speaker 3: If we're not doing things that are trying to make

497
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Speaker 3: us feel good, what's the point are you putting energy

498
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Speaker 3: towards things that don't make you feel good as an alternative?

499
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Speaker 2: I don't know. So I that was it.

500
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Speaker 3: It was just so clear to me, and I've never

501
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Speaker 3: looked back since, and like there's no moment of like

502
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Speaker 3: self doubt or jeopardy or am I doing that?

503
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Speaker 2: I just knew. I knew.

504
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Speaker 3: So as soon as I started writing out my list,

505
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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah again, filled with like maybe purpose

506
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Speaker 3: is the word. Having said that, it took me kind

507
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Speaker 3: of like a two year period to get to a

508
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: point where I actually left Australia with the list. I

509
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: actually forgot about it for a little while. I'd married

510
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Speaker 3: a stranger. I flew back to Australia and I conformed

511
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Speaker 3: into like I she started a business with a friend,

512
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Speaker 3: and then I, yeah, two years later became I wasn't depressed,

513
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Speaker 3: but I was super down, broke down in the back

514
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Speaker 3: of a TAXI started crying. I was like, why where

515
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Speaker 3: has this come from? And then I thought about my list.

516
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Speaker 3: I got it out the next morning and just went,

517
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Speaker 3: that's it. I'm doing this, paid off my business, didn't

518
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Speaker 3: go on to make any money from it, and left

519
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Speaker 3: and that was it. So yeah, I think it's such

520
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Speaker 3: an important understanding why.

521
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Speaker 2: You're doing this. Is it to be happy? Is it

522
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 2: get out of your comfort zone?

523
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 3: Is it to grow? Is it to whatever? If you

524
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: can always just rely on that laughing.

525
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Speaker 1: Totally, I completely agree with you. I do want to

526
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Speaker 1: say though, and I mean, this is a compliment, so

527
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Speaker 1: I hope it comes out right. But like it's one

528
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Speaker 1: thing to be able to do and feel very clear

529
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Speaker 1: and have that moment of like, well, I'm going to

530
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Speaker 1: honor this thing that feels like it's yeah, in line

531
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Speaker 1: with my purpose or passion. It's one thing to like

532
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Speaker 1: and like, I know, you say, like it's not necessarily

533
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Speaker 1: courage or bravery, but like, I think there are a

534
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Speaker 1: lot of people living out there that have got this

535
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Speaker 1: passion or this desire for this dream that maybe nobody

536
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Speaker 1: else can see but them, and they choose not to

537
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Speaker 1: go after it because that's too scary, or they'll be

538
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Speaker 1: just store you know, their self worth as lower like

539
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Speaker 1: you are in a very small percentage of human beings

540
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Speaker 1: that are courageous enough. I would say, oh, I can

541
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Speaker 1: see the eyes.

542
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm trying to fit like, no, well, I'll

543
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: take it as a compliment, thank you, welcome. But sadly, yeah,

544
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: there are tons of people out there. You know, my

545
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 3: story is a bit of a minority story, sadly, not

546
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Speaker 3: because I'm special or whatever, just because I just backed

547
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: myself and went for it. And you know, like I

548
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: talk about this, you know, I'm very fortunate. I get

549
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: to speak all around the world on stages and we

550
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Speaker 3: do this like court this online course Eight Steps to

551
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Speaker 3: Creating and Activating your List. And so I'm in front

552
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Speaker 3: of a lot of people. And the sad it's great

553
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: and I'm so thankful for doing all that stuff. But

554
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Speaker 3: the sad part is if a alien came from out

555
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Speaker 3: of space and was at the back of a room

556
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Speaker 3: that I was speaking in and said to the person

557
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: next to him, oh, what's this guy talking about? Why

558
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: is everyone listening so intently? And the person was to say, well,

559
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Speaker 3: he's doing the things that he wants, the alien would

560
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: be like, what, well are you? Is that not common?

561
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Speaker 3: That's a shame because we get so called and I

562
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: get it, I get it, but you know, there are

563
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: so many parts that come into it, like you need

564
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: to have a good support crew, you need to you know,

565
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: that stuff develops over time, and if you don't, you

566
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: need to have the you know, the grit to just

567
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Speaker 3: do it anyway.

568
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Speaker 2: And I guess that's kind of what I did.

569
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, the truth is everyone's equipped with

570
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: the same ability to just do stuff, and it's just

571
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Speaker 3: a matter of deciding to and changing how we operate totally.

572
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Speaker 1: But there's got to be something about you that gives

573
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Speaker 1: you that. Like I know you say you're not any

574
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Speaker 1: different to anyone else, but like in the pandemic and lockdown.

575
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Speaker 1: That's just been like in my age group nearly I

576
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many people are pregnant or engaged,

577
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: and like that sounds really lovely and beautiful, but I

578
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: unpacked it a bit with my therapist and I was like, oh,

579
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Speaker 1: this is really confronting, Like I'm in is this what's

580
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Speaker 1: the society's expectations are of me? Now? Am I expected

581
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Speaker 1: to go down that part? And he said, when there's

582
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Speaker 1: a life threatening thing like a pandemic, is like people

583
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: make choices out of fear, and choosing to have a

584
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Speaker 1: kid is like, well, I'm living on through this. And

585
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, that is more quite morbid as well,

586
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: and he was like, well, it's it's a fear of

587
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: severe fear of death as well. There are like all

588
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Speaker 1: these layers to it. And then they're getting married is like, oh, well,

589
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: you know, time's ticking, maybe we should And it's really

590
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Speaker 1: like and I'm someone that's kind of like ignored society's expectations.

591
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: I had a business Smothy bar Solder came over here, like,

592
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: same kind of thing, but it takes guts and like

593
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Speaker 1: you said, grit, and I just, yeah, I really want

594
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Speaker 1: to acknowledge that in you. I know, like everybody has

595
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: the ability to feel that but or to live that way.

596
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Speaker 1: But it does take a sense of Like even when

597
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I first moved here, I've only been here for three months.

598
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Speaker 1: Some days I'd literally open my draw and be like

599
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Speaker 1: right a, Lola, big breath off you go, like and

600
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Speaker 1: I had to psych myself.

601
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: On you, and anyone can psych themselves up. Yeah, that's

602
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: the truth of it. And like, as you say, no

603
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: decision should be fear based. It's ridiculous. I don't even

604
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: like referring to this as a bucket lest because that's fit.

605
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: It's like things to do before you die. Hurry up,

606
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna die, do it now, Like I get the urgency.

607
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: That's a positive thing. Sure, I understand there is a

608
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: timeline and when it's over, it's over.

609
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you believe in something else, it's great.

610
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, every decision should be like consciously thought about,

611
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: you know. You should be doing everything with like super

612
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: clear intention, you know. And it's very easy for me

613
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: to say that, like relationships or work or goals or whatever,

614
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: but it's true. And what I just this is kind

615
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: of what drives me. Imagine being on your deathbed and

616
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Speaker 3: having a moment being lucky enough to have a moment

617
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Speaker 3: you're not hit by a car and you die instantly

618
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: or whatever. You're in a bed and you have a

619
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: moment to look back at your life and truly reflect

620
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: and go, I wish I'd done that differently.

621
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine?

622
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: Can you? And it happens? That's the tragedy of it.

623
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Speaker 3: And as opposed to thinking, oh, with a smile on

624
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: your face. Yes, oh, I'm stoked. I just I was

625
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: just telling you before this, I just posted a thing

626
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: of it got shot right whist wearing a bulletproof vest.

627
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Speaker 1: It's video, It's meant secretly, I'm kind of jealous though,

628
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I'd be down for that.

629
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so I should always would have disclaim my life.

630
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: Stupid thing, don't do it. Blah blah blah. Went to Columbia, Yeah,

631
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: went to googled bulletproof clothing companies. A Colombian company popped up.

632
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: I emailed them. I said, would you shoot me? The

633
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: owner replied, I'd be happy to shoot you. So I

634
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: flew to Columbia, wore a bulletproof vest. Yeah, and he

635
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: shot me. Now in that scared by the way. Yeah,

636
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: So this is the interesting thing. When I started on

637
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 3: a hundred things. As we spoke about I thought, well,

638
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: if today it was my last day, would I be happy?

639
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: Would I change anything? And I was like, shit, I

640
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: actually would change everything. I'm not happy. This was something

641
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: like eighteen months later, and I'd left Australia. In that

642
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: eighteen months, I checked off a bunch of stuff from

643
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: my list, and my life had changed. And I didn't

644
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: realize until this moment where he was pointing a gun

645
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: at me point blank and he put his finger on

646
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: the trigger and squeezed it. And in that moment I

647
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: was supremely confident up to that moment, and then I thought,

648
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, what happens if this goes wrong and

649
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: I die. I'd never considered that risk now obviously it

650
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: would have been all of me. My felt pretty funny, actually, but.

651
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: I did.

652
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: In that let's second, I considered, hang on, if I

653
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: died now, in this moment, how do I feel about

654
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: my life? And I had realized that again. I realized

655
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: in that moment that I was just super happy. I

656
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't change anything. I was living the right way, and

657
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: of course I didn't die. It worked, and blah blah, blah,

658
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: not to.

659
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: Make a death gag, but you'd be like going out

660
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: of the bang. Yeah, it's like the gun because even

661
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: here being in America, and I really want to talk

662
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: to you about America, but like you have a different

663
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: perspective on guns because they're legal. They're legal here, and

664
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: so one of my things, like I want to train

665
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: just to understand handling of guns, just that I have

666
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: an awareness of it because I get a little bit

667
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: fearful and like, oh shit, Like I'm like a female

668
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: just walk in the streets alone. Some days I'm like,

669
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: oh shit, like I could be a target. And like

670
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I think I said to you when you got here,

671
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: my like car battery got stolen out the front of

672
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: my house, which was a really funny experience.

673
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: You had a gun, you coulda shot him or which is.

674
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: What my landlord told me. But I thought, oh, how funny.

675
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: I've got this like irrational fear of guns in America.

676
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: Why don't I train in like just hand just understand

677
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: how to handle guns.

678
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: Well, it's a super complex issue and I shouldn't comment

679
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: on it because I don't know enough. But I sit

680
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: here a stat that the majority is shooting of deaths

681
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: from the how do I how do I even frame this?

682
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: The majority of deaths by gunner by the gun owner

683
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: is killed by their own gun.

684
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy.

685
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah?

686
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, from like mishandling.

687
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: Mishandling, or I don't know, like the intruder or the

688
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: car battery, thief shoots you got it? Yeah, so you

689
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: can handle it and all that kind of stuff in

690
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: training and then you have the gun and then it

691
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: actually gets used on you so easy.

692
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know about owning one, but I just

693
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: sort of be really interesting to learn and also get

694
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: comfortable with something that feels uncomfortable.

695
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why. That's exactly why I got shot.

696
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: I was I was kind of actually like in a

697
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: car when I was hit chiking across America, which is

698
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: on my.

699
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: List, I got given up.

700
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I saw you did that.

701
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, but every car had a gun

702
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: in it. And on one occasion I looked at this

703
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: gun and pointed at myself. It was empty, but I

704
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: was I was struck with that fear that you have, Yeah,

705
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: and I thought, how do I how do I get

706
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: around there? So you're you decided to well, I'm going

707
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: to learn how to handle a gun. I just decided

708
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: to get shot. Very different.

709
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: See what I mean? You always take it to a

710
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: new level of my friend.

711
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, just just different. It's different.

712
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: This is another really important thing too, when you talk

714
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: about lists, like it doesn't have to be world changing.

715
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: I know I kind of mentioned it before, but it's

716
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: so true. Yeah, it just has to be like relevant.

717
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: As long as I'm relevant, it's perfect.

718
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh my godness, there are so many things on my

719
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: list that I want to talk to you about.

720
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: Let's go. I believe I didn't mean.

721
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: I didn't mean. Another one on my list is I

722
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: want to build a treehouse and live in it that's legitimately,

723
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: like in Byron Bay or something, or like Palm Springs,

724
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Like build this epic treehouse and then actually.

725
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: Occupy it, right right, Such a good one.

726
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: So fun. But I mean, like my questions list, So,

727
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: oh what made you like? What made you come here

728
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: to America? Well?

729
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: I was doing more talks over here, and then I

730
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: got asked to do this show, and which is like

731
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: a reality show called one hundred Things blah blah blah.

732
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: It took like six months of filming, but I had

733
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: a three year.

734
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Visa and I just kind of thought, basically what happened

735
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: is I had I had almost moved away from my list,

736
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: and I was connecting strangers to help each other out

737
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: in acts of kindness. So I kind of had this

738
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: thought of developing a site, almost like a matchmaking site

739
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: for kindness, and I thought, America seems like a pretty

740
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: good place to do something like that. You know, it's

741
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: just there's so much opportunity here. Not to even comment

742
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: about Australia, but like there just is in America. People

743
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: are so collaborative and supportive, and there's so much resource here.

744
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of optimism and hope here, I found

745
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: as soon as I got here, even though the COVID

746
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: situation was much more dire, when I got here, there

747
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: was such a sense even going and trade to Joe's,

748
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: like there was this sense of like hope and positivity,

749
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, less kind of like the theory vibes I.

750
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Got for sure.

751
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people are doing stuff here, you know,

752
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: And you're right, it's kind of like upbeat and everyone

753
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: supports each other and anyway, so I thought, what a

754
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: great place to try and forward that. So I kind

755
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: of moved here and I want to talk about the

756
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: visa stuff.

757
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: It full on. I've just got my green card. It's

758
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: mental oh awesome, yeah, but full on.

759
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, I moved here, started developing this platform for kindness,

760
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: and then only more recently realized, well, actually I should

761
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: just I should do one hundred things properly. So we're

762
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: working on that platform right now and we're going to

763
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: integrate this helping each other with it.

764
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: That yeah, so long story short, that's how I got here.

765
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: Basically had to show and then when I'm going to stay.

766
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh, and it is such a wonderful place to stay, isn't.

767
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: It just great? It's great? I love it.

768
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so, oh my goodness, what else am I going

769
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: to Okay? I have so many things I want to

770
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: talk to you about it and ask about. All Right,

771
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know how you feel about this word,

772
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: but I just want to know where you're, like, what

773
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: your perception is of failure. This podcast is called Fearlessly Failing. Yeah, yeah,

774
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: do you like I've heard you say like I'm not

775
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: perfect on a podcast. You're like, I've just had a

776
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: chocolate croissant today and I've had a few this week,

777
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: and like I think we I'm a nutritionist by trade,

778
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: and so I totally fall into this wagon of being like, oh,

779
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I've been to in and out Burger, you know, like

780
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: little things where I feel like I'm probably not honoring

781
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: one of my core values. And so do you fail

782
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: number one? And if you do, what's your kind of

783
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: like how do you?

784
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: Well?

785
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: Interestingly, I have never failed. No, I'm Jackie, So I

786
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: feel like, well, you say, no, one's perfect. And also

787
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: I genuinely, I genuinely feel this now like failure or

788
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: whatever word you want to use, like you know that

789
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: you find resistance or you have an outcome that's different

790
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: to what you expect or whatever. All that stuff's amazing feedback,

791
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: amazing feedback, Like you should be learning from this stuff.

792
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: It's very rare that you try something and bang you

793
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: hit it out of the park. There's so much learning

794
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: to be done, and there's actually, I think, really arrogant

795
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: of us to consider or even think that you know, oh,

796
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: well I'm going to do this straight away stupid. Of

797
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: course it never happens. So you need that quote unquote failure.

798
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: You need that feedback because you learn from it. So

799
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: I think it's great. Yeah, I have no I guess

800
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: I just I've always been kind of curious about putting

801
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: myself out there, and like, you know, when I was

802
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: like a kid, I was always so shy, and then

803
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: I started just like I mean, just asking out pretty

804
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: girls to see what they would say. It wasn't about

805
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: whether we went out, it was just about putting myself

806
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: out there. And like, of course, more often than not

807
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: they'd be like no, and that's fine. So I just

808
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: get getting because there's this illusion that everything has to

809
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: be perfect. Obviously, talk about social media and the highlights

810
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: reels that we see of everyone.

811
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: It's absolute rubbish.

812
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: It's garbage, like the beauty and the actual juice of

813
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: life is all the other stuff.

814
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: So no, I think failure is great.

815
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a very present person. Like when

816
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: we chatted on the phone last week and we were

817
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: trying to figure a day to do this podcast, and

818
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: I was like, should we push it next week? And

819
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: You're like, well, the surf is great tomorrow. I'm just looking.

820
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the surf cam and it reminded

821
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: me one of my heroes is Steve brw and which

822
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: most Aussies laugh at me when I say that, but

823
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I think he's amazing.

824
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: No, he is amazing. What was He's going to laugh

825
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: at you about that?

826
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Well, A lot of people like because I used to

827
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: say to people, I want to be like a Steve

828
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Berwan of health and they'd be like, well, do you

829
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: do wrestle broccoli?

830
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

831
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: You know. But I love his passion and he's got

832
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: this like unapologetic just like honesty that I've always liked. Yeah,

833
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: but he famously would rock up onto a film set

834
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: late if the surf was good, because it'd be like

835
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: it was just so good.

836
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never knew that great.

837
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: And he'd be like, surf is too good. I had

838
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: to stay.

839
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: Oh wow, the surf was really good. Last week we

840
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: made a great call. Thank you, Reding Flexible.

841
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: I had two days of just having surf of malibus.

842
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: It was unreal, Oh so good. I was so happy. Actually,

843
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: thank you.

844
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: I actually like I I remember the end of that day.

845
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: At the end of that day, because I was member

846
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: doing the podcast and DA I sort of went surfing

847
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: and I just gave myself a day away from working. Yeah,

848
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, I remember thinking

849
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: that was such a special day.

850
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: It was. It was brilliant. I stayed in Malibu for

851
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: a while.

852
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: I had like a really lovely meal on the way back,

853
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: and I was by myself the whole day.

854
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: It was fantastic. So thank you.

855
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: No, you're very welcome. But that's it, even the way

856
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: you described that experience, Like, I do believe you're quite

857
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: a present person. Does that ever come into play or

858
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: are you just like so in the moment that you're

859
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: even call yourself present, you're just like, well, I'm here,

860
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: this feels yeah.

861
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

862
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: I kind of like I always, for some reason steer

863
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: away from all that that thata like yeah, but I

864
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: guess so, like I feel pretty present. I'm just like

865
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: in the moment, I'm I mean having said that, when

866
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: we were getting ready for this, I was trying to

867
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: post something on Instagram, right, so my attention was divided

868
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: between you and my phone, and I apologize. So I

869
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: think that stuff comes up, but no, I look that

870
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: there is nothing else. There is no tomorrow. It's always

871
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: only today and specifically this moment, and if you're not

872
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: in it, that's a shame because you're missing out on

873
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: the only thing you have. So I think being present

874
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: is such an important thing. Again, very easy to say, hey,

875
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: everyone be present, but you just be in the moment,

876
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: feel the fields. It's amazing. It's amazing. How like this

877
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: is interesting about life too. You look out like I

878
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: look outside your window here and it's a sunny day,

879
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 3: and there's like a beautiful house and I can see

880
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: like my little coombee, which I got number ninety from

881
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: my list, and there's like, look, there's trees, and there's

882
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: like we live in this world where like fruit grows

883
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: off tree a banana. Think about a banana. You just

884
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: pick it off a tree and you peel it and

885
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: it's ready and it's delicious. What if you're missing if

886
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: we're not realize we're not amazed by what we have

887
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: in the moment, we're kidding ourselves because there isn't anything else.

888
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: I love that. Very good. Thanks and also sorry to

889
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: go down the woo woo path. But because I think

890
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: because my train a lot of my training is yoga,

891
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: it like naturally just comes into like when you talk

892
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: about passion, like in yogi, that's darma, right, so like

893
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: and purpose and all that. So I always have this

894
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: kind of like yogi flow.

895
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: No, I love it. I don't mean to be great.

896
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: I live in Venice, so I'm like, I'm well s.

897
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are very What about what's next? Though, So

898
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: you're you're in the land of dreams, You're in la

899
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: Like what is next? Is the TV show going to

900
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: come back? Is like, what's what's the plan?

901
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: Well, for twelve years has been no real plan. It's

902
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: just been this wonderful accident. Genuinely, like I never thought

903
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: or any I never thought I'd be on a podcast

904
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: or what.

905
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what a podcast what?

906
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: Like I had noticed it, but and I like that,

907
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of really enjoyed that idea. I

908
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: didn't have an expectation, so there was I couldn't fail.

909
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: I was just trying, you know, and whatever it was,

910
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: it was. But because of the impact one hundred things

911
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: has had on people, like I said, it's saved lives.

912
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: People find solis in it, They meet best friends in

913
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: the community. This course, for example, now is like to

914
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: prove that I'm not a unique entity or brave whatever.

915
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: There are people who come into the course who have

916
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: you know, they have a very interesting background, some darker

917
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: than others, but genuinely, generally it's a life style that

918
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: doesn't encompass progress or achieving meaningful things. All these people,

919
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: after the course, change their lives, change their lives, and

920
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: we you know, like I try and post as much

921
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: as they came on Instagram if someone finally doing the

922
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: thing that they've always wanted to do and it happened.

923
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: So just to again say it's available to anyone, like

924
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: that idea of just bettering them elves. But yeah, so

925
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: with that impact that we're starting to see more and

926
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: more of, my plan is to do my best to

927
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: make sure that a hundred Things impacts millions and millions

928
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: and millions of people. The you know, the ESPN documentary,

929
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: the talks, the books, like millions of people have heard

930
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: about one hundred things. But every time I get approached

931
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: in the past, oh hey, we like that.

932
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: What do I do now? How can I've just never

933
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: had anything for them?

934
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: But you know, somehow I've I've become like this what's

935
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: the word popular maybe in the in the corporate speaking

936
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: thing and workshops and there's impact there, and there's impact

937
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: in the general public. And now we're kind of working

938
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 3: on some stuff for schools. So yeah, that's my plan,

939
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: just to do whatever I can for a hundred things

940
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: to actually grow to become a proper structured entity that

941
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: people can you know, come and find what it is

942
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: they're looking for, because at the moment it's a little

943
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: bit jumbled up, but we're getting there.

944
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen you do like TV hosting stuff too,

945
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: and especially on Insta with your reels and stuff. You

946
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: last people about what's on their list. You get a

947
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: lot of people saying like sexy times scenes.

948
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, yeah, I mean that we

949
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: all have that list. In fact, I mean a list

950
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: is anything. It's you know, serious, it's cheeky, it's kinky,

951
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: it's whatever. When I it's just a funny story. When

952
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: I had my first version of my list, which I

953
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: didn't think anyone would ever hear about, there were you know,

954
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: there were some like cheeky, sexualized things. And as soon

955
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: as I studying attention and I was at the time

956
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: raising money for camp Quality and I got invited onto

957
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Channel seven to do an interview, I was like, oh,

958
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: I can't have like those things, so, like, you know,

959
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: if there are kids watch it before I had to

960
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: edit it, so I have I also have a list

961
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: of things of a slightly more taboo nature.

962
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: We all do, and you know, to think that we

963
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: don't is ridiculous. So I can't remember what the question.

964
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Was, but no, I just saw you doing reels in

965
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Venice and people would be like you were like what's

966
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: on your list? And a lot of people were like

967
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: A three ways this, you know, like you were getting

968
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, I love that he's just posting

969
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: all this.

970
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: Why not?

971
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: And I had this, So I've bought on Toddy as

972
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: regular friend of mine. He's my business partner now as

973
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: we try and he's he's like the smarts behind the

974
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: structure and all that stuff we're developing. And yeah, we

975
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: had a chat about this and like authenticity is very

976
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: easy to say. It's so crucial, you know, like in

977
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: a world of personal development that I've somehow found myself in, right,

978
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: it seems that like, again the general narrative is people

979
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: have to be super serious and they have to use

980
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: the right words, and you know that there's you have

981
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: to really establish yourself as as a personal authority and

982
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: there must be a photo of you on your website

983
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: on a stage, commanding and all. And like it's sure,

984
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: I get that, but like let's be real, like where's

985
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: the humor in this like we're all gonna die, Like,

986
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: why are we taking ourself seriously?

987
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: So I yeah, why not post it? When someone says

988
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: I want to have a threesome? Why that's true and

989
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: it's relevant.

990
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: You know, you can't always be like so politically correct

991
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: to the point where you're actually losing the vision and

992
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: losing the message you're trying to put out there.

993
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: And if people don't like that, that's that's fine.

994
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: But I haven't yet met someone who's gone, oh, that's

995
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: a bit too much, because hey, even at pat and

996
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: has had kinky things on their list too totally.

997
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Are you a Ricky Gervat's fan? Love him because he

998
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: talks about death in a very beautiful way, and he's like,

999
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: that's what makes life so wonderful, the fact that we

1000
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: don't have, yeah, all this time. And he's got a

1001
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: whole show on the afterlife and it's about dealing with

1002
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: people that you love dying.

1003
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, wait, what's that.

1004
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Oh it's called after a Lot.

1005
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: I have seen that. I've seen that.

1006
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like you cry, but you laugh, but you cry.

1007
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: True, it's so true.

1008
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, not to try and be profound,

1009
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: but like you know all we have is now right,

1010
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: and they will for everybody be that day and some

1011
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: don't even have the moment of reflection, but you will

1012
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: have that moment where you get to reflect and be like,

1013
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: oh my god, that was my reality and I am

1014
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: either happy with the things I chose to do or not.

1015
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, you don't have to wait for that moment.

1016
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: That's the beauty. That's why anyone listening who's even curious about,

1017
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: you know, living well and smiling more, take a moment

1018
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: to think about it.

1019
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: What's on your list?

1020
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: Genuine consideration, because it's absolutely changed my life considering that question,

1021
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: and it's because of that, it's changed many people's lives.

1022
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: And everyone has that ability to impact themselves and others.

1023
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm going to tell you about this

1024
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: musician that you may or may not have heard of.

1025
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: His name is Jack Garrett, and he's got a song

1026
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: out called Surprise Yourself. And for the video clip, he

1027
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: it's like doco style. He got people to face either

1028
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: their fears or their biggest ambitions. So I swim swimming

1029
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: with the sharks, but you see the whole journey of them,

1030
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: like tearing up out the front of the shark like

1031
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: before they jump in with the sharks facing the fear

1032
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: and then coming out the other side of it. And

1033
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: for some people it's like walking through a cave. For

1034
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: some people it's like on a roller coaster. And every

1035
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: time my boyfriend I watch it, we will cry, like

1036
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: it is like, I'm going to send it to you.

1037
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the show notes as well. It's

1038
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: just there's this a bit like I have for many years,

1039
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: probably from early twenties, had a mantra of like do

1040
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: something that really scares you. Year was all I said.

1041
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: But I was like, just one thing that's like and

1042
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: with the skydiving, and this is where, like I like

1043
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: the way you've shared about being shot for two weeks

1044
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: and the lead up if you were like, oh, you know,

1045
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: what are you doing, and I'll be like, oh my god,

1046
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm skydiving, my palms would start sweating. And it wasn't

1047
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: until the moment that I got into that little plane

1048
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: and it started corkscrewing like all the way up, you

1049
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: know how it goes in like a spiral all the

1050
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: way up, that I completely gave over to the experience.

1051
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Was like, how lucky am I that I can even

1052
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: be doing this right now, but that lead up, that

1053
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: two weeks kind of lead up. I was like, oh,

1054
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: like I wasn't sleeping right I was like, I was like,

1055
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: and I'd chosen to do it, Like I had chosen

1056
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: to do this and it was the coolest experience. Like

1057
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: I love that experience. But it's just it is so

1058
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm really passionate about human behavior and it's just fascinating

1059
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: that what our brains will do.

1060
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: Well. I think you've brought up two separate things really well.

1061
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Like one is like the apprehension leading into something, some

1062
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: people will away from it at that point. So it's

1063
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: so good that you were able to jump out of

1064
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: a plane ultimately, even though you were fearful for two

1065
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: week leaning up to it. The other thing, though, I think,

1066
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: is slightly different, Like why are you and your boyfriend

1067
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: crying are watching a video of someone doing something. It's

1068
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: not because they were fearful leading into it, I think,

1069
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: and I think about that. I actually spoke to my

1070
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: therapist about this yesterday. So I watched a video of

1071
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: like the NFL draft where like these kids are in

1072
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: college who've worked their ass or whatever, get the phone

1073
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: call on draft night from the owner of a big

1074
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: franchise and go, hey, well done, buddy, You've made the team.

1075
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: You're now a New York Giant or whatever. And that

1076
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: is that moment where someone who has just been trying

1077
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: their best, who's overcome so much adversity, really, like you know,

1078
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: nothing's guaranteed in life. We're all out there just trying

1079
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: our best. They have that moment, that breakthrough moment of

1080
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: I did it. I fucking did it. And that is

1081
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: why I cried when I watched that video. It sounds ridiculous,

1082
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: but it's the same reason. I would imagine as you

1083
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: and your boy friend, you're watching someone achieve something meaningful

1084
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 3: to them, and it's that breakthrough. You're celebrating the success

1085
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: of others, and again, like to put it back to

1086
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: the people listening and ourselves, what's your breakthrough moment? What

1087
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: is that moment in your life? If it's skydiving fantastic

1088
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: and maybe like even bigger, what's that thing that like

1089
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: we should all be chasing, which when we get there,

1090
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 3: we are going to break down in tears in a

1091
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: good way because we did it?

1092
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: Did it?

1093
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: What's the video that you're gonna post is gonna make

1094
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: someone cry? Because they're celebrating you, you know, like, oh,

1095
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: because we all deserve that moment. Again, it wouldn't be

1096
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: great to go through. Everyone deserves it. And I actually

1097
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: when I watched this draft.

1098
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: Video, can you send it to me after?

1099
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will, I'll send it to you. And I

1100
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: was like, where's my moment when when I don't know

1101
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: if I've ever had such a specific moment of like,

1102
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, I did it. I did it, you know,

1103
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: like and you could argue that I've done a bunch

1104
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: of stuff. I mean, I felt really good when I

1105
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: got asked to write a book and like it got

1106
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: published and I saw it in a bookstore. But I

1107
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: still don't think that's my moment. Like there's something else

1108
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 3: out there and I cannot wait for it to happen.

1109
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah see I get so I know in my mind

1110
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: exactly what that thing is because it's been my drive

1111
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: for all of my career life, like since probably like

1112
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: twenty one. But I feel like, and I don't know

1113
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: if it's an assy thing or if it's a like

1114
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: I feel like a bit of a dick to kind

1115
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: of like think that I can achieve that because it's like,

1116
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean yeah, so like for me, like,

1117
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: my dream is to be like Steve Colbert, like an

1118
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: amazing variety talk show host, hence the podcast.

1119
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 2: I have to do that too, by the way. That's great, and.

1120
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: We're a fucking Emmy or something for it, and I

1121
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: reckon that moment of being like, well, host the fucking Oscars,

1122
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: right yeah, at that moment for me, I'd be like,

1123
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: holy fuck, You've worked for twenty plus years to get

1124
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: to this situation right now, in this moment. But like

1125
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: I write, before I came here, I had a meeting

1126
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: with a publicist and I was meant to be working

1127
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: with them, so it was kind of like a meet

1128
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: and greet and we met in Sydney having a little

1129
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: veno together, and I said, well, you know, my dream

1130
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: is to be you know, like Jimmy Kimmel or Steve Colbert,

1131
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: Like that's my ultimate And I said, I think you

1132
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: should know my ultimate dream because we're going to be

1133
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: working together. And my publicist she spat her wine out

1134
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: and started laughing at me. I shit, you're not. And

1135
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like and my like,

1136
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: because I'm self driven and very self mobile, I was like, oh,

1137
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: I can't work with that person, Like, that's totally not

1138
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: going to like lead me in the right path to

1139
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: where I need to go. But I was like, whoa, Like,

1140
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: that's also a really extreme response to get from someone

1141
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: you were just sharing a dream.

1142
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: For sure. It speaks to so many things. One we

1143
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. You need a good support crew.

1144
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: If there's anyone who are the people who like fill

1145
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: you up with like, you know, optimism and joy and

1146
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: you walk away from a conversation.

1147
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, god, yeah, oh my god, those

1148
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: are the people you need. Yeah.

1149
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: The tough part is getting rid of the people who

1150
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: aren't that, and because they're often the closest people to

1151
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: us oddly, but you need to and people like how

1152
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: do I do it?

1153
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: How do I do it? Just do it? Just do it.

1154
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: You'll be better off for it. The other thing is, yeah,

1155
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean that's obviously a reflection of her. That's what.

1156
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with you and everybody who if

1157
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: you think of those people you mentioned, Steve Colbert or

1158
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel or they all at one point had that

1159
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: dream being somebody who wasn't known at the time. I'd

1160
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: love to host a show and your person would have

1161
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: probably laughed at them too, and that person went, of

1162
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: course and did it. Stephen Colbert is no, like we

1163
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 3: all have these dreams.

1164
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: I also want to.

1165
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: Say this, and it's kind of like it's just another

1166
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: perspective on this too. As much as we all want

1167
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: that moment, that breakthrough moment, and some of us get

1168
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: it right, it doesn't matter totally. It doesn't actually matter.

1169
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: And this is something that I've been thinking about a

1170
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: lot lately. I'm somewhat celebrated for my list. Right, so

1171
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: we do a podcast because I've done some things on

1172
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: a list, or it's kind of interesting or whatever, it

1173
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. What I have found out is that my list,

1174
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: and like our list, they are purely and only vehicles

1175
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: for us to experience the world, to try and get

1176
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: a better understanding of who we are. And by doing

1177
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: these things, like you know, as you are now you're

1178
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: doing a podcast. You have this aspiration of becoming a

1179
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: talk show host, right, and I'm sure you'll get there.

1180
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 3: I'm not no doubt you could do it, but it's

1181
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: not That's not the important thing as long as you're

1182
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: being yourself along the way. And I hate to use

1183
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: this cliche term, but it's not the destination. It's the

1184
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: journey totally.

1185
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: As all we have, you.

1186
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: Know, you getting on the show, We're not equal. Happiness

1187
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: for you is this is this? And if you were

1188
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 3: to like die today and you had that moment of reflection,

1189
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: you I'm sure be like, god, yeah, yeah, oh my god,

1190
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm working towards a dream. It's not about the actual achievement,

1191
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: you know.

1192
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Ah, so good. You are very inspiring. I'm sure you

1193
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: get all the time.

1194
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad to make sense.

1195
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: No, but I've never really shared that story about the

1196
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: someone laughing at me, like and very recently laughing at me,

1197
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: and I was like fucking oh gobsmack, oh my god. Yeah,

1198
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: but I also love how you just said, like the

1199
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: people that are often closest to us sometimes I don't

1200
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: want to. I've used the word like toxic, but like

1201
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: have can have it quite a detrimental effect. And it's

1202
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: like like I'm thirty five and I'm in acting school

1203
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: as well, just because it scares me and I love

1204
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: that feeling. And I remember in Australia, I was in

1205
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: acting school and one of my classmates was like, well,

1206
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: you're too old to make it and I just looked

1207
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: at her and I just said, I can't afford to

1208
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: think like that, which is great because obviously I've got

1209
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: a sense of like again, like I can see when

1210
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: it's someone else's shit, but like it is, there are

1211
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of like people that you need

1212
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: to actually go yeah, whoa. And like even recently, someone

1213
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: just did something really mean. I was like, hey, that

1214
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: was that was really mean? Like why'd you do that?

1215
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: And that for me is three years of therapy to

1216
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: understanding and being able to and you've touched on it.

1217
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: Can you this will be my last question, but can

1218
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: you talk about like the importance of looking after that

1219
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: part of your mental health, which part exactly like having

1220
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: a therapist and investing in your own Oh for sure.

1221
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So it's not very I don't know

1222
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: people do it in Australia. I never did, but it seems

1223
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: like we don't as Australians do that. It's not culturally

1224
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 3: normal over here. Everyone because he's a therapist. I yeah,

1225
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: So I've been seeing one for like two years or

1226
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 3: so and he's great. Here is great, And it's again

1227
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: I think they're like the misconception is that you see

1228
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 3: one if you're broken or you are there's something about

1229
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: you if you need to see one. It's absolutely not

1230
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: like that someone explained to me one time, Like you

1231
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: go to the gym to.

1232
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: Like work your muscles.

1233
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah it's yeah, it's like going a therapist is working

1234
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: your brain far more important than your muscles, by the way,

1235
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: both important, but you know, just to make a point,

1236
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's like someone who just helps you process

1237
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: things a little better. And for me, I so the

1238
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: one thing above all else with my therapist is that

1239
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: he just allows me to understand stuff, better, understand myself

1240
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: and you know, like we all have things.

1241
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: No one's perfect.

1242
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: There's a Again, there's another misconception that we're meant to

1243
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 3: get to a point where we become the all knowing,

1244
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: all seeing, wisest person in the room. As rubbish, it's

1245
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: absolute fallacy. Like we all have stuff. We all have stuff,

1246
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: and like even so so much I want to talk

1247
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: about there is so much. How long can we stretch

1248
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: as helpful? I know, there's just a lot I want

1249
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: to talk about. I just I want to touch on

1250
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: the community side and having people who are positive as

1251
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: well in our workshop. I don't really talk about this,

1252
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: But we had a lady who was talking about a

1253
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: toxic relationship with the closest person to her, her husband.

1254
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: She went through the course, she didn't have it less,

1255
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: She wasn't able to identify goals at the beginning, and

1256
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: then she identified her biggest goal as creating healthier boundaries

1257
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: in her life. So a week after the course ended,

1258
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: she shared with the group that she left her husband

1259
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: with her daughter. And because he was such a negative,

1260
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: he got jealous and angry that she was even doing

1261
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: the course because it was something it was for her. Yeah,

1262
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: it was something for her, and it made him feel

1263
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: like inadequate, and oh, if she's doing it, why am

1264
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: I not doing it? But instead of then looking into

1265
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: the maybe I can grow and I could do it,

1266
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: he goes, well, he laughs in a face like your

1267
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 3: person did you know he abuses her or whatever. So anyway,

1268
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: it's just to say like, it's not easy. These things

1269
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: aren't easy to do. But you know, if you looked

1270
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: at if you asked a question, what does this look

1271
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: like in the simplest way, if this was easy, what

1272
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: would it look like? And then we were brave enough

1273
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: to go through and do that stuff, Yeah, you'd surround

1274
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: yourself with good people, you'd make good decisions. Life wouldn't

1275
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 3: be tricky. I'm babbling.

1276
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: No, I love it. I love it, and I'm wrapped

1277
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: that you've touched on that, because I think I know

1278
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: for me it's taken. Definitely. Use the therapis first all therapy,

1279
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: I want to say. I think there is such power

1280
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: in having an understanding of your own psychology. And I

1281
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: go to a therapist, not because I went for like

1282
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: four and a half years ago for a really shitty

1283
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: breakup and we fully put that to bed and packed

1284
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: it away and processed it within three sessions and then

1285
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: I said, can I keep coming back? And he was

1286
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: like yeah, he was like, let's get you bulletproof. Like

1287
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: that's my kind of like goal and it's mine now

1288
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: complete non ago, And yeah, I think that there's such

1289
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: beauty and understanding and just figure out who you are.

1290
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like it goes hand in hand

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Speaker 1: with everything that you're about as.

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Speaker 2: Well, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's the whole journey is internal. It looks

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Speaker 3: like it's on the outside, it's not. It's like an iceberg.

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Speaker 3: You see the tip of the iceberg and you see

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Speaker 3: jumping out of planes and becoming a TV host or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that the juice is below the water,

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Speaker 3: and that is internal. It's an internal journey, you know,

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Speaker 3: which is you know, it's interesting you start thinking about

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Speaker 3: COVID and people getting depressed and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: and that there are ways to kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: people's mindsets are kind of like one of a few

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Speaker 3: different ways. And you kind of heard that people either

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Speaker 3: thrived in COVID or people did the opposite. Not to

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Speaker 3: judge by the way. I completely get people who went downhill,

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Speaker 3: but you know, really like I don't know, the secret

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Speaker 3: is me not the secret. But I imagine if you're

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Speaker 3: able to sit down in a room by yourself and

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Speaker 3: just be comfortable, that's maybe a good sign that you're

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Speaker 3: on the right path. In fact, I heard recently there

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Speaker 3: was a someone did this thing where they were like

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Speaker 3: you have to sit in the room, a room of

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Speaker 3: silence for an hour, or or pay us one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: It was some experiments something like that might not be exact,

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Speaker 3: but and most of the people paid the one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was set up something like that but just to

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Speaker 3: show more so that like a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable with silence and being still and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah in yoga world. Not to bring it back to

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Speaker 1: yrs again, but there's I teach vinyasa in Yinn and

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Speaker 1: Ninna's like for the full hour you only do like

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Speaker 1: five or so posers you're sitting and they say, like

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Speaker 1: always try to like get okay with like finding the

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Speaker 1: comfort in the discomfort. Yeah, and it'd be that same

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Speaker 1: kind of didn't you go silent for a week or

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Speaker 1: something too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't like a typical vinyasa. It's almost called

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Speaker 3: the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was living in New York and I just lived

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Speaker 3: like a really active lifestyle. Went on like a blind date,

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Speaker 3: which was super awkward. I like learned soulsa. I went

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Speaker 3: to a comedy club, I worked in a friend's office

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Speaker 3: for a day.

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Speaker 2: Did I can't remember what else I did in silence?

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Speaker 2: All in silence.

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Speaker 1: It's so much harder than you thought.

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Speaker 3: The first few days, I was super scared. I was

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Speaker 3: like it was all my mom. My mom was racing

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Speaker 3: and I was avoiding eye contact. And then after a

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Speaker 3: while that slowed down, and to your point, I just

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Speaker 3: became more comfortable with it and I had really interesting

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Speaker 3: like interactions. The blind date was awful. And the funny

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Speaker 3: thing about that though, was I bumped into her maybe

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Speaker 3: two years ago in LA and her name is Stephanie,

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Speaker 3: and I like walked up to her and I was

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Speaker 3: like Stephanie, and she's like, oh my god, you're Australian.

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Speaker 3: Like she didn't know I was Australian, so I didn't

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Speaker 3: talk to her. Yeah, it was just really funny.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Oh, thank you so so so much.

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Speaker 1: You are. I'm also going to get the link for

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Speaker 1: so people can do your because online your course is it? No?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, So I'll get all of that

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Speaker 1: so I can put all in the show notes too,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, I want to do it. It sounds so fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well, if anyone wants to do it and they mention,

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think how I can because I

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Speaker 3: genuinely just love doing it. If they mentioned this podcast

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Speaker 3: or whatever, I'll give them a discount of some sort.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, you know I love it, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are a legend. I cannot wait to Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited for the next time that our paths crossed

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Speaker 1: and a little check in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. It's so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 3: I heard so many good things about you from Scott

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Speaker 3: Tweety and others and can't wait to see you like

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Speaker 3: host a show one time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lolaberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of

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Speaker 1: course us spread the love.