1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with jonesy Alanda Well the Crown 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Season five. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Such evocative music, this would have to be one of 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: the most anticipated series to be released this year. The 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: season takes us into the nineteen nineties, a period in 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: time where the royals were in crisis trying to remain 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: relevant to the world. Three of the Queen's children were 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: divorced and it was the tragic death of Princess Diana 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: of Wales. So to tell us more about this new season, 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: we have Claudia Harrison, Princess Anne, James Murray, Prince Andrew, 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: and Marcia Warren the Queen mother. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Well here they are. Look at this so good. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Morning, good morning. It's so exciting to talk to you. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: This is such an anticipated series. How exciting for the 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: three of you the first time you'll be stepping into 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: these familiar characters. How do you go about becoming a 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: character or a person that is one of the most 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: recognizable people in the world. Marcia will start with you 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: with the Queen mum's shoes comfortable to slip. 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 4: Into terrible responsibility and everybody who speak to who knew 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: her absolutely adored her. So that's another problem. But she 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: the last interview she gave was in nineteen twenty three. Wow, 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: And the King then was so furious with her for 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: talking to the press. She never did another interview, So, 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: as you can imagine, it's a bit difficult to know 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: what she sounded like behind palace doors as opposed to 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: making a speech. 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: The totally different times. You know, you've got to everyone. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 5: Every royal is just talking now, but back then she 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: didn't say a word word. 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, the changes she saw, it's unbelievable. It was all 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: horses then when she was young, and then it's into 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: computers and tapes and extraordinary and she was reviewing troops 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: to one hundred and one. 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: It's probably her favorite bit on. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: Reviewing the truth. 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 6: She loved. 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: She loved the military. 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: We see also with you Claudia and Anne at the 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Queen's funeral. We saw the dignity and the stoicism of 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: Princess Anne. But in the nineties she was being compared 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: to the frivolity of Fergie and the beauty of Diana. 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: She was kind of she wasn't as revered as she 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: is now, was she. 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 6: No. I mean I think that was a time when 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 6: you know, I've sort of approached this role, thinking, well, 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 6: you know, who is this woman in the nineties, Let's 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 6: strip away you know, all that received idea of her 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 6: and she it's been simplest for me to look at it. 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 6: She was a full time working woman with two children, 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 6: who happens to be the eldest daughter of the queen. 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: And I found it very useful to think of her day. 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 6: And this is a woman who was doing four hundred 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 6: engagements in years, which you know, and I've read, you know, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 6: digested all the stuff about her, and her day would 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 6: begin and it would not at eight o'clock in the morning, 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 6: and she would have back to back engagements and get 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 6: back at eleven o'clock at night. And she was, you know, 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 6: a patron of Save the Children, so she was traveling 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: abroad several times a year for great stretches of time. 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 6: Her work ethic is extraordinary. But any working mother knows, 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 6: you know, you your time is precious and minimal, and 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 6: that informed so much of my understanding of her. You know, 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 6: she doesn't have time to decorate a room. She's got a. 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: Mission on her hands. And that was that was the. 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: Thing for me, you know, that's that was my way 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: in She was nominated for the Nobel Prize. Oh the 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 6: things we don't know about her. So the idea that 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 6: her job is to walk into a room and decorate 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 6: it and hold her handbag. You know, this is a 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: woman on a mission, and that was a great woman. 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: And James, you're playing Prince Andrew, I am, and he's 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: saddled with a lot of controversy of light. 74 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: When they called you for this role, did you go yay? Great? 75 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 7: Me really? 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 6: Really? 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, when I when I when they called 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 7: me for this role, it was it just exploded about 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 7: his what he was up to allegedly at the time. 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 7: So I was a little bit reticent, or not reticent, 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 7: a little intrigued, shall we say, about what material I 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 7: was I was going to have to perform and get 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 7: involved with during the show. It's all about his marriage 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 7: or his marriage falling apart with Sarah Ferguson, So we 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 7: steer clear of the alleged stories that we all now 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 7: have come to know. 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: So it's kind of good Andrew in a way. 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's for you to decide. But yeah, it's it's 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 7: a more innocent Andrew, if I can say that. He Yeah, 90 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 7: it's more about his relationship within the family it's not 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 7: as necessarily black and white as we all believe, or 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 7: were led to believe back in the nineties that Sarah 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 7: had some affairs and that meant that the marriage had 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 7: to be absolved. You know, Andrew in the story we're 95 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 7: telling is that Andrew very much loved Sarah and was 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 7: heartbroken that he was almost forced into divorce through what 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 7: came out in the press rather than the fact of 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 7: the actual actions, if that makes sense. So you know, 99 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 7: the man had a heart and was very in love 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 7: with Sarah. 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: You were filming this season when the Queen passed away. 102 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: That must have had an incredible impact on the seat. 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: Did Yeah, it's just or. 104 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: I'm a staunch, staunch royalist. I used to cry when 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: she came out of Backing Palace in a car. I 106 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: lost a daughter, and Meldo is in a terrible state. 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: Of course, because the Queen mother lived untiller hundred and one, 108 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: I assumed the Queen wood and there she was meeting 109 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: the two new the new Prime Minister saying goodbye to 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: the other one joking. Then suddenly it was a huge sefte. 111 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: And and resonated all around the world. 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: I think we're prepared intellectually but not emotional of course. 113 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: And I'm just I'm just so excited to see it. 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm just like, like my wife, she's like, I can't. 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: Watch it, it's too soon, but I'm going, yeah, bring 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: it on, I want to watch it. You're getting the 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 5: guys on board with this particular episode of The Crown, 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 5: which is which is good. 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be an incredible. 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: Season five is going to be excellent. Thank you so 121 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: much for joining. I really love it. 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you. 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you,