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Speaker 1: We know the incoming administrator has done really what he

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Speaker 2: When The Northern.

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Speaker 1: Territory News revealed those tweets, he's apologized he did it

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Speaker 1: past social media posts that he made. He never intended

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Speaker 1: core values. It goes on to say, I understand the

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Speaker 1: responsibilities that come with my role as the administrator of

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. It's the greatest honor of my life

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Speaker 1: the standards the community rightly expects. Now joining me on

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Speaker 1: the show is Marion Strimjaw, the Federal member for Lingiari.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Marion, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Like lovely to have you in the studio this morning. Now, Marion,

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Speaker 1: does that apology do enough to fix the damage which

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Speaker 4: Now? It doesn't, Katie, And look, I think it's a

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Speaker 4: bit disingenuous. I think if this man was genuinely sorry.

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Speaker 4: He would have fronted the media and he would have

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Speaker 4: and say, look, I'm deeply sorry. Well when I look

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Speaker 3: He just said that he.

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Speaker 4: You know, made some admission that he shouldn't have said

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Speaker 4: I think the Chief Minister has really badly misread the

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Speaker 3: So you know, to hear the.

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Speaker 3: In the past. Well, hold on, it was a year ago, Marion.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been some well the Chief minister. She

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Speaker 4: Look, I know that through this process there were contacts

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Speaker 1: Well, this morning they've said that they weren't made aware

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think I think that I think that

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Speaker 3: And that is really telling Katie, why do you reckon.

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Speaker 1: Why do you reckon They've made that choice and they're

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Speaker 2: You know, I guess the process is the process, right.

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Speaker 4: Now, everyone always jumps up and down about self government

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we have the federal Liberal government do that

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Speaker 1: Now tell me, Marion, you were a Northern Territory minister.

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Speaker 1: what is the process?

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Speaker 4: Well, Katie, I can tell you I'd love to be

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Speaker 4: So the Northern Territory has its has its process and

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Speaker 4: they go through that vetting as well. So what occurred

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Speaker 3: When those issues.

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Speaker 2: You guys just sort of wiping your hands of it,

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Speaker 4: Look, there's been a lot of representation. For myself and

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Speaker 4: Luke Gosling. We've both been quite we haven't been happy

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Speaker 3: And doing this. This is a person who.

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Speaker 4: It's an important it is an important job and it's

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Speaker 3: So it is an important, you know.

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Speaker 1: Important position, Marian, really quick one. Did you get invited?

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Speaker 4: And what what has been quite astounding, Katie. Even as

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Speaker 2: Would you have gone even if you did get but.

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Speaker 4: You know, give me the opportunity to say thank you you,

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Speaker 4: that invitation. But Luke Gosling, myself and Melanderry her, three

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Speaker 1: Marion, do you think that things are going to calm

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Speaker 3: No, look, I think.

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Speaker 4: It's just gonna it'll get it'll get worse. I think

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Speaker 4: see what and how he'll pan out. But I think Katie,

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Speaker 4: you know, for fifty nine years he had certain views,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, having been a domestic violence victim

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Speaker 4: that was the most offensive for me. I just think,

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Speaker 3: So we'll wait and see.

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Speaker 4: I think that I don't think that he will he

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Speaker 2: Marion.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about something pretty disturbing that's gone

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Speaker 2: So it happened about ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Several units responded to disturbances that were occurring on Todd Straight.

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Speaker 1: Police say that a thirty eight year old man drove

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Speaker 2: What do you know of what happened?

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Speaker 3: And look, it is terrible.

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Speaker 4: I've been on the phone since early this morning, last

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Speaker 4: in Alice Springs. This is of no surprise, Katie. Alice

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Speaker 4: Springs has been on the boil for some time. You know,

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Speaker 4: Commissioner Martin Dole, I think in the police and you know,

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Speaker 4: I think they do.

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Speaker 3: It's a thankless task.

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Speaker 4: I think they try and do the best that they can.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's what I keep saying,

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Speaker 3: And that's the recond we've seen. We've seen a huge

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Speaker 4: I was in Catherine yesterday, Katie people talking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: the anti social behavior, the.

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Speaker 3: Unrest in in Catherine.

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Speaker 4: You know, you go around Cather and you can see

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Speaker 4: You know, the Northern We've got to we've got to

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Speaker 4: sit down. And I've said this previously to the anti government,

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Speaker 4: the Northern Territory government and the Commonwealth need to put

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Speaker 3: Are and and and confront them.

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Speaker 4: But I recently issued a statement to the Chief Minister

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Speaker 4: it's no point in throwing more police at it. This

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Speaker 4: into this because living in Alice Katie and talking to

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Speaker 4: still in fear. No, people still don't feel safe. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I saw the police commissioner when it came

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Speaker 4: know crime has gone down, Well it hasn't, and we're

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Speaker 3: So I'll be.

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Speaker 4: Going back to Canberra at the end of this week

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Speaker 4: and I will be asking the Prime Minister Melandery McCarthy

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Speaker 4: need to have a more you know, a strategy that

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Speaker 4: and she needs to get fired income if she's serious

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Speaker 4: talk to us, Katie. I think you know it's not

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Speaker 4: about being woke. It's not about saying no, please, shouldn't

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Speaker 4: do their job, or you've got lefties saying this.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've given.

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Speaker 4: Her a paper which was nearly a year and a

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Speaker 4: be done, and that hasn't been action, so you know

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Speaker 4: she needs to It sounds like they're more woke than

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Speaker 4: what I am.

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Speaker 3: Katie here, I don't want to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Marian, it is always good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: You never mintion your words. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Kate, thank you