Speaker 1: Good a, Peter Helly, Hey, welcome to you. Ain't seen
Speaker 1: Nothing Yet the movie podcast, where I chat to a
Speaker 1: movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't
Speaker 1: quite got around to watching until now. And today's guests
Speaker 1: comedy icon Glenn Robbins. Do you any think you have
Speaker 1: a chance against us? Mister cowboy?
Speaker 2: Open the pod bay doors.
Speaker 3: Hell, I'll have what she's having.
Speaker 1: Happening right now.
Speaker 2: Don't see nothing you.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of friends and people I've admired
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Sometimes those things and quite often they overlap.
Speaker 1: Today is a very special episode though. Glenn Robbins was
Speaker 1: my comedy hero growing up, and I know I'm not
Speaker 1: alone in the world where haters are hating. Everyone loves
Speaker 1: Glenn Robins. He is the John Farnham of Ossie Comedy.
Speaker 1: Glenn first came to our attention in The Comedy Company
Speaker 1: and the Absolute Sketch Comedy Juggernaut in the eighties, featuring
Speaker 1: characters like Conn the Fruiter played by Mark Mitchell, Colin
Speaker 1: Carpenter played by Ken Ginjeel Carlie Mole played by Mary
Speaker 1: and Fay. But for me, it was all about Uncle
Speaker 1: Arthur played by the Great Glenn Robbins. We just all
Speaker 1: loved Uncle Arthur. I still remember playing street footy and
Speaker 1: doing Uncle Arthur impressions to keep everybody amused while somebody
Speaker 1: else vegetable from over the fence. Glenn has stated at
Speaker 1: the top of the comedy tree ever since, through his
Speaker 1: iconic roles as cal Day Night in kathn Kim and
Speaker 1: titular character in Russell Koit's All Pussy Adventure, Glenn has
Speaker 1: kept treading the boards with stand up and kills it
Speaker 1: every time on Have you been paying Attention? And he
Speaker 1: was a long standing member of the panel. Quite simply, Glenn,
Speaker 1: like somebody like Will Ferrell, is always always funny. It's
Speaker 1: surreal to me did I get to call Glenn a mate?
Speaker 1: He's hilarious, interesting and interested, and I'm bloody stoked to
Speaker 1: be hanging with him today. Hi.
Speaker 4: My name is Glenn Robbins and my three favorite films
Speaker 4: are Sideways.
Speaker 3: I am not drinking any fucking.
Speaker 4: Blow, Midnight, Cowboy Hell All.
Speaker 2: The one thing I've ever been good for it Lovin and.
Speaker 4: Your mother too. From this day on wards, these other
Speaker 4: rules the only rules, well up until I had seen
Speaker 4: one flow of the Cuckoo's Nest, which is.
Speaker 2: Wow is based on LSD.
Speaker 1: Heartthrob Ken Kesey's nineteen sixty two novel One Flow Over
Speaker 1: the Cuckoo's Nests was a tricky movie to get made,
Speaker 1: but when they did, Boy Oh Boy, with Milos Foreman
Speaker 1: at the helm and white hot Jack Nicholson fresh off Chinatown,
Speaker 1: Cuckoo's Nest in nineteen seventy five was the seventh highest
Speaker 1: grossing film ever. That's right, the seventh highest grossing film ever.
Speaker 1: How times have changed. Where veteran RP. McMurphy arrives at
Speaker 1: an Oregon mental institution for in his words, fighting and
Speaker 1: fucking too much, he is avoiding service. He plans to
Speaker 1: bunker down, win some cash playing poker, and get back
Speaker 1: to his outside world after a few weeks. But with
Speaker 1: a cast of good hearted wackos played by future legends
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito, Christopher Lloyd, among others, and a nurse who
Speaker 1: may or may not be evil Louise Fletcher as the
Speaker 1: icon nurse Ratchet, McMurphy's stay may not be the straight
Speaker 1: line he was hoping for. One Flow Over the Cookies
Speaker 1: Nest is one of only three films to have won
Speaker 1: the Big Five Oscars Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress,
Speaker 1: Best Director, and Best Screenplay. The other two, It Happened
Speaker 1: One Night and Silence of the Lambs One Flew Over
Speaker 1: the Cookoo's Nest is surprisingly fun, heartwarming, but also grim
Speaker 1: and heartbreaking. Are stunning achievement. Glenn Robins, have you had
Speaker 1: your electric shock therapy this morning?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I don't think I can follow that. I've got nothing
Speaker 4: more to say about it than exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: So there is a lot to talk about. I know
Speaker 1: I covered some territory.
Speaker 4: There, but there's how do you go with spoiler alerts?
Speaker 1: We say to people, I mean, people do listen to this.
Speaker 1: I always say, watch the movie first, the obvious thing,
Speaker 1: and then listen listen to this. Now that's a good idea,
Speaker 1: that's a good idea. But I have had people who
Speaker 1: will watch listen to the podcast and then I watch
Speaker 1: the movie quite happily. Yeah, so people taking films differently
Speaker 1: these days.
Speaker 4: Perhaps I have to present a present a proviso. I
Speaker 4: studied film and television and yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that a threat or that?
Speaker 4: I don't want to say, why the floor with you?
Speaker 4: But I got some terms I can throw around. Genre
Speaker 4: French isn't that film noir. Yeah, subtext fem fatal. I
Speaker 4: did film and television. I didn't understand any of it.
Speaker 4: How did you study for Well? I qualified film and
Speaker 4: television teacher, right. I studied drama and film and television.
Speaker 4: Why because I didn't get good enough marks to do
Speaker 4: anything else. And and I liked the whole world of
Speaker 4: film and TV.
Speaker 1: And when you spoke to me about doing this podcast,
Speaker 1: you actually told me, you said, listen, I don't really
Speaker 1: get too deep into like, yeah, discuss again. And then
Speaker 1: you've come in the load board me and you've come
Speaker 1: in yet. Well, but I don't do you, professor?
Speaker 4: I have I one of those people? Was it good?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 4: Why? I don't know? Just that's you know, so don't
Speaker 4: expect to go subtexts and you know, and so.
Speaker 1: You know the words, you just don't know what they mean.
Speaker 4: I know how to use them, you know what. That's
Speaker 4: what art is. You don't need to be able to
Speaker 4: intellectualize it. You just yeah, you just have to have
Speaker 4: a reaction. And people say I hated that, and they go, well,
Speaker 4: it's art, and that's a reaction. So that's good. It's
Speaker 4: when you're ambivalent, that's that's dangerous. Yeah, but when you
Speaker 4: you know, I like a film or I don't like
Speaker 4: a film or a script or whatever, you just go.
Speaker 4: That made me feel good. And I'm not sure why.
Speaker 4: Maybe down the track you work it out, but it's
Speaker 4: all in my book, Appreciating Art, film, television and drama.
Speaker 1: Within the plugs at the end. If you don't, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure is it crass? Opening with plugs before you move
Speaker 1: on to your three excellent favorite films? In fact, well,
Speaker 1: two of them I know are excellent cause I've seen them,
Speaker 1: but one I haven't seen. But did you so? Why
Speaker 1: having you seen one? Flow out of the cookies? This
Speaker 1: was the one that was on you.
Speaker 4: I don't know why. Nicholson is probably my favorite. There's
Speaker 4: a few that I haven't seen of Nicholson. The last detail,
Speaker 4: the last detail yet and oh hang on, obviously we
Speaker 4: had it in front of us, but I haven't seen
Speaker 4: that many.
Speaker 1: Five easy pieces.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what was the one one where they were
Speaker 4: traveling back. There was the security guards they were the
Speaker 4: Is that the last detail?
Speaker 1: And lastly that was when they have to get the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I've seen it, Yeah, I haven't. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: come up in this part I think it's Lloyd Langfort's
Speaker 1: favorite films.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm not an expert on Jack Nicholson at all,
Speaker 4: but he is my favorite. I mean, he's probably probably
Speaker 4: say he's you favorite actor, and I say Jack Nicholson
Speaker 4: because you saw the bucket list and you thought, I
Speaker 4: haven't seen the buck list.
Speaker 1: There's another one you got to get to. So I
Speaker 1: don't know why I say that, but anyway, this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was going to say, but let us do it
Speaker 1: that before we get through your three favorite films. I
Speaker 1: actually wrote down basically, I mean, what a career Jack
Speaker 1: Nicholson has had. This is like I'm going to run
Speaker 1: you through Jack Nickosons screen. Now there's a movies in
Speaker 1: between some of these that aren't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll probably I haven't seen it, haven't seen it,
Speaker 4: haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: So he makes Easy Rider in sixty nine with Dennis Opo,
Speaker 1: and that's what kind of catapults him into, you know,
Speaker 1: level of fame. In nineteen seventy, does Five Easy Pieces
Speaker 1: seventy one, he does Carnal Knowledge seventy three, he does
Speaker 1: The Last Detail seventy four, he does Chinatown Great Film.
Speaker 1: He has a role in Tommy in seventy five, and
Speaker 1: then he makes one floid of the Cookies that's in
Speaker 1: seventy five, so he comes in white hat to this.
Speaker 1: He makes a couple of films that don't quite take
Speaker 1: off between seventy five and eighty, but in eighty he
Speaker 1: makes the Shining Ban. The Postman Always Rings twice in
Speaker 1: eighty one, Reds in eighty one as well in terms
Speaker 1: of endearment eighty three, Pretty's Honor eighty five, Heartburn eighty six,
Speaker 1: which is of Eastwick. In eighty seven, Broadcast News a
Speaker 1: smaller role, but I I have said a lot more
Speaker 1: than I thought I had. Yeah, Batman in eighty nine,
Speaker 1: a Chinatown sequel called The Two Jakes in ninety ninety,
Speaker 1: which I've never seen him, I say a few good
Speaker 1: Man in ninety two, one of your time, great.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know you did. Impressions as good as
Speaker 1: it gets. In ninety seven about Schmid, which is a
Speaker 1: great film.
Speaker 4: Alexanderan again i'd forgotten, and that would maybe go into
Speaker 4: one of my favorites. I'd forgotten yep.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two. That the part of two thousand
Speaker 1: and six I think only makes three films after the
Speaker 1: part of his last one was how do You Know?
Speaker 1: In twenty ten, James L. Brooks teaming up with his
Speaker 1: old broadcast news mate for his final film.
Speaker 4: And I think he's retired now as yeah does anything? Yeah,
Speaker 4: it just goes the basketball with Adam Sander, I think.
Speaker 4: And that's the only time we've seen not.
Speaker 1: A bad laugh though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's an incredible career, isn't it incredible? Nearly
Speaker 4: is incredible as yours and mine. I mean, there's no
Speaker 4: I don't see there's no comedy company in there cal nine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's no you know, I know Jack would be probably
Speaker 4: quite ten to see some of those. Does Jack listen to?
Speaker 6: Do?
Speaker 1: I send everyone who's involved in the film, I send
Speaker 1: a course, send the tape. That's how you doing, Jack?
Speaker 1: That's terrible, I pretend to I'm keeping it in. I'm
Speaker 1: keeping it in there. Let's talk about your three favorite films, Glenn.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I think it's the first time it's
Speaker 1: come up. Sideways is in my top three films?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Yea, so my top eight three of I say, Godfather
Speaker 1: Parts one and two, I can't slit them, but to
Speaker 1: maybe as a smidge Sideways and playing strains and automobiles.
Speaker 4: And that's another great film. Yes, yeah, why Sideways. You
Speaker 4: know what, if you want to get deep on this,
Speaker 4: I think it. I think the two characters represent to
Speaker 4: me the two sides of me. There's the the good
Speaker 4: conscious do the right thing, which is I think that
Speaker 4: the character's name.
Speaker 1: Paul Marti my Miles. Miles is the other one. So
Speaker 1: he's Miles, and Jack is Thomas Haiden Church.
Speaker 4: Thomas Hayden Church is one of the most undervalued comedic
Speaker 4: talents in Hollywood. I do not know why he's not
Speaker 4: doing more. He was in Divorce, which I loved, and
Speaker 4: he represents the mischief side, the bad side, the things
Speaker 4: that you know that you want to do but maybe
Speaker 4: you shouldn't do. And they both go on an adventure together.
Speaker 4: All of my films seem to have a theme, which
Speaker 4: is two people on an adventure, Sideways, Midnight at Cowboy
Speaker 4: and your mother too. So there's and some of the
Speaker 4: ones that were on my list that I didn't get
Speaker 4: to say, because you can only choose three stand by Me,
Speaker 4: Three Boys on an Adventure, Ferris Bueller Day Off, Summer
Speaker 4: of forty two, Inside Lewin Davis, which I saw again
Speaker 4: the other night, Go So good. But there's something about
Speaker 4: I relate to both the characters because I get why
Speaker 4: they did what they did and the consequences of that
Speaker 4: was appropriate. And the pain that the main character is
Speaker 4: going through with the well, the pain they were both
Speaker 4: going through, both physically and mentally, and just that sense
Speaker 4: of mischief fun being away being It's like when you
Speaker 4: go away with your mates on a on a golf
Speaker 4: trip or a footy trip or whatever. They went to
Speaker 4: wine country and they and they met girls and they
Speaker 4: did things, but at the same time they're going through
Speaker 4: their own journey. I think one of the might haven't
Speaker 4: seen it for a while. One of them was about
Speaker 4: to get married.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, so it's basically a Bucks weekend of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Jack's about to get married and he decides he's
Speaker 1: the one who wants to make this, which usually the
Speaker 1: opposite happens. Usually it might be like the best man
Speaker 1: who's like, we're gonna get a bit of fun that
Speaker 1: you know, Miles actually wants to get it quite straight.
Speaker 1: He wants to play some golf, have some wines, and
Speaker 1: Jack side, no, we're getting laid this weekend. Like this
Speaker 1: is what's happening. Yeah, And they've got Miles has he's
Speaker 1: got two things particularly going on. He's got a book
Speaker 1: that he's waiting to hear back on from his publisher
Speaker 1: and and and he's also got a he's kind of
Speaker 1: not recently separate, but he's still not over his ex wife.
Speaker 1: And then he finds out during that there she's coming
Speaker 1: to the wedding and she's bringing her her new boyfriend.
Speaker 4: And Thomas haden Church's character is he's he.
Speaker 1: Does add a small time small time those voiceovers there's
Speaker 1: lodged into some voiceovers. He's not going through as much.
Speaker 1: I think it's certainly miles story, certainly two hander, but
Speaker 1: what he is going through I guess. I mean, Miles
Speaker 1: is easy to identify. But Jack's kind of obviously he's
Speaker 1: about to get married, yet he's going on this weird
Speaker 1: kind of so something's not right. Yeah, yeah, away, and
Speaker 1: he looks up with Sangerro who's awesome in it, and
Speaker 1: Miles is Virginia Madison, who's brilliant. Again, there's a brilliant
Speaker 1: scene where they go back to the one of the
Speaker 1: girls place. I'm sure at Sandro's play and Paul gi
Speaker 1: Marty's character and Virginia mentioned her just chatting and it
Speaker 1: is one of the great talk about subtexts. It is
Speaker 1: one of the great scenes if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about subtext, to learn what subtext is, because they're talking
Speaker 1: about wine, but he's actually talking about himself, yes, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And then she just really like puts her
Speaker 1: hand on his hand and it really lays it thick,
Speaker 1: and like how like she how much she loves one.
Speaker 1: She's almost talking about him and maybe even sexist, how
Speaker 1: fucking good it tastes. And she's looking right at she's
Speaker 1: leaning forward, and he looks back at her, and he
Speaker 1: just goes, yeah, but I like capsavs too. And I've
Speaker 1: been in those moments, you know, yeah, many many years
Speaker 1: ago when I was finding my way, you know, working
Speaker 1: how to read cues and kind of going I can't,
Speaker 1: I don't know how an idea with this situation.
Speaker 4: And so you related to the vulnerability of that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I just think I think it's a perfect film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no idea too. I'm just trying to remember. How
Speaker 4: were the characters different at the end than they were
Speaker 4: at the start. Was there a sense of hope or
Speaker 4: was there a sense of life going back to the
Speaker 4: way it was? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's so Miles goes back and the wedding happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Miles does do a thing where he he does drink
Speaker 1: that really expensive bottle of wine that he talks about
Speaker 1: throughout them because he goes to the wedding and these obviously,
Speaker 1: please watch it, you know, let's skip it.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you've watched it earlier, because I've watched.
Speaker 1: It from long time. I watched it a lot, right,
Speaker 1: I revisited.
Speaker 4: There is It's based on a book too, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm not I forget who wrote the book,
Speaker 1: but Rex Pickett wrote the book.
Speaker 4: Well done.
Speaker 1: It's just come up on the screen. So he talks
Speaker 1: about he expects you the wine, and there's lots of
Speaker 1: wine talk, obviously, and he he goes to the wedding
Speaker 1: and that only is the partner there, and he deals
Speaker 1: with it. Okay, he deals with it, and then he
Speaker 1: realizes that she's pregnant and that just kind of tips
Speaker 1: him over a little bit, and but he doesn't freak out.
Speaker 1: He just goes to this diner and takes his bottle
Speaker 1: of wine and palls into the paper cup. And this
Speaker 1: is with a burger, So I think him accepting acceptance
Speaker 1: and dealing with that. It's probably the growth in that.
Speaker 1: And then he goes and revisits the Virginia Madison and
Speaker 1: that's where he kind of Ansie knocks on the door.
Speaker 4: So therefore we sense that perhaps there may be something
Speaker 4: forward with her.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's certainly some forward momentum I think with him.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's I can't And if you get
Speaker 1: a chance, it's a real treat to listen to the
Speaker 1: DVD commentary with Church and Paul GM Marty. They like
Speaker 1: your favorite. If they had a radio show or a podcast,
Speaker 1: you'd be listening to that. They are so funny together.
Speaker 4: Now, what's I mean, what's happened to what's his name?
Speaker 1: Paul GM has Billions was the big recently and he's
Speaker 1: popped up in lots of stuff. He's very I mean,
Speaker 1: he's so good. He was like a very character actor
Speaker 1: he was for all that time. Yeah, and now he's
Speaker 1: made like Marve. He made like Marvel like he was
Speaker 1: just in those and around that. It was in the
Speaker 1: hang the third Hangover movie. But Billions Billions is a
Speaker 1: big shot. I don't watch it, but.
Speaker 4: I've seen it either. But it's just one of those
Speaker 4: people that again, for me, he's probably flown under the
Speaker 4: radar a bit. But but they come and both of them,
Speaker 4: Thomas Hayden Church are just His timing in his presence
Speaker 4: is just a joy to watch. It's just effortless, and
Speaker 4: you can learn from watching someone like that just to
Speaker 4: lean back on a little bit and let it play anyway.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a bit deep into acting, but I just
Speaker 4: think he's so undervalued.
Speaker 1: He's so good. Midnight Cowboy we have had only recently.
Speaker 1: In fact, in the first episode of this series, we
Speaker 1: discussed Midnight Cawboy, which I had never seen up until recently.
Speaker 4: Again, I haven't seen it for a while. Send it
Speaker 4: a couple of times again. Two people on a journey. Really,
Speaker 4: it's a guy who goes to guys in the country town,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 1: He's a small coutch down in Texas and goes New
Speaker 1: York City. So Vance joy sings the song Riptide and
Speaker 1: there's a line in that about there's this movie that
Speaker 1: I think you'll like. A man quits his job and
Speaker 1: moves to New York City. This cowboy is running from
Speaker 1: himself and I've always wondered what movie that was. It's
Speaker 1: been night Cowboy, right.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well this for the performance of John Voyd,
Speaker 4: John Voyd, Yeah, and doesn't have it do not thank you.
Speaker 4: It's Scott. There's that thing, that thing that Laurel and
Speaker 4: Hardy had, The thing that I love, which is that
Speaker 4: two guys probably not as smart as they'd like to be,
Speaker 4: one who probably thinks he is a little bit smarter
Speaker 4: than the other. Confidence that is undermined by by some stupidity,
Speaker 4: some ignorance, not ignorance, naivity, and that where that takes them.
Speaker 4: And John boyd performance is one of the best. He
Speaker 4: walks that line perfectly.
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
Speaker 4: It's incredible, the strut, the confidence, the look, but the
Speaker 4: naivety and the with that it's just beautiful to watch.
Speaker 1: And the way the flashbacks inform that character. So he's
Speaker 1: very full of Bravid as soon as you meet him,
Speaker 1: he's full of pado.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: These flashbacks almost play out like memories, which what flashbacks are,
Speaker 1: but there's different ways of executing flashbacks. He is so
Speaker 1: I think beautifully and effortlessly done and then the memories
Speaker 1: get a bit more kind of all, hang on, this
Speaker 1: guy's got some stuff he's not going on. They're not
Speaker 1: dealing with, and he needs to deal with and doesn't
Speaker 1: Hoffman Hoffman.
Speaker 4: Now, sometimes I think Dustin Hoffman goes too far and
Speaker 4: I think he might be listening. So sometimes Dustin you
Speaker 4: speak directly to we need to get together, and I
Speaker 4: reckon in the right film, with the right script, you
Speaker 4: can you can afford to. But but having said that,
Speaker 4: I thought the character is big, but it really really
Speaker 4: worked the vulnerability why can here I'm working here, which
Speaker 4: I believe was was was real?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, there's been been done in my research. It dusn't.
Speaker 1: Hofman likes telling a story and sometimes the story doesn't
Speaker 1: completely match up to reality. So the idea was that
Speaker 1: wasn't improvised. That was kind of supposed to happen. But
Speaker 1: it's it's what he says after that, which is something
Speaker 1: about insurance or something that was that was.
Speaker 4: It makes a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm working here.
Speaker 4: I'm a pretty good line, but you reckon the back
Speaker 4: end of it was improvised.
Speaker 1: Apparently, So there's conflicting reports until you believe the director
Speaker 1: John Slesinger or my.
Speaker 4: Advice to him would be watch Russell Coy to work
Speaker 4: out how to ad lib. After the dialogue, there's this
Speaker 4: I'm not going to give anyway. See if you can
Speaker 4: pick a dustin, give me a pull. But yeah, so again,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it for a long time, but I
Speaker 4: remember just going away with a beautiful feeling again, two
Speaker 4: people on a journey through vulnerability and finding themselves. And
Speaker 4: when I couldn't tell you how they were different at
Speaker 4: the end from the start, I can't remember, but that's.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think Joe Buck he throws away,
Speaker 1: he kind of he stops pretending. I think like he
Speaker 1: throws away. He gets to Florid and he throws away
Speaker 1: his boots in his right, his cowboys stuff. And he
Speaker 1: got two men who have been quite homophobic all the
Speaker 1: way through this and he they have on the bus
Speaker 1: at the end, they're comforting. He's comforting the Dustin Hoffen
Speaker 1: in another movie, Back to Back, where he ends on
Speaker 1: a bus after the graduate. Different vibes going on, but
Speaker 1: it's and I think because the point I was going
Speaker 1: to make was another film from the seventies, which is
Speaker 1: the one flow out of cookies and mess is seventy five.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mind ending in a way that's pretty melancholic. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: which the sing often happened anymore, like so it doesn't
Speaker 1: it's the bus scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hess away, Yeah he does, and the rest
Speaker 4: of the bus is aware of it and he cuddles him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just beautiful. It's beautiful. It's great. I've not seen
Speaker 1: your Mother too.
Speaker 4: I think it's Mexican. It's you why to.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a movie that I never know what they
Speaker 1: call it because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the translation of it. Yeah, in another two
Speaker 4: a long time since I've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's very sexy, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about some guys who go on a trip
Speaker 4: just to live life. It's it's come of a what
Speaker 4: is it? Coming of age? It's very sexual. It's just
Speaker 4: those things that you go through. They meet a girl.
Speaker 4: So it's not too similar to one. Am I thinking
Speaker 4: of Ferris Bueller in that way? I suppose or Summer
Speaker 4: of forty two is probably a little bit different. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I just I enjoyed the journey, the performance. I don't
Speaker 4: know the main character's name. I think it's Mexican. That
Speaker 4: the lunar yeah, yes, sounds right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also yes, the first time I saw Gayel
Speaker 1: Gussie Banal.
Speaker 4: He's a great actor on the Motorcycle with Motorcycle Diaries,
Speaker 4: was he yes, yeah, yeah, starting looking dude, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like looking at a mirror for me
Speaker 4: when I look at him you two. Yeah, when I
Speaker 4: look at him o gage ye, that's it's a young
Speaker 4: Glenn Robins, right. But beyond that, I can't tell you
Speaker 4: too much because I remember it gets a bit dark,
Speaker 4: a bit foreboding, and you haven't seen it, so you can't.
Speaker 1: I've seen it, but it's kind of long time only yeah,
Speaker 1: the once. Yeah, it was directed by a fond Kuran,
Speaker 1: so he was one of his kind of earlier films
Speaker 1: before he kind of broke out in the more globals.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you much more than that. I don't
Speaker 4: know where you can see it. I don't know, but
Speaker 4: I highly recommend it. That's all I can say. If
Speaker 4: you enjoy an adventure.
Speaker 1: Yep, there you are. All right. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: film We are here to get Stuck into the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy five directed by me Lost Form and starring Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1: It won the Five Big Oscars based on a novel
Speaker 1: which was a huge hit. So when this came to
Speaker 1: the cinema, people were ready for It was a hard
Speaker 1: film to get made, but like I said, when they
Speaker 1: made it, wow they I think they knocked it out
Speaker 1: of the park. Glenn Robins, did you enjoy one? Flu
Speaker 1: have the cookies? Now?
Speaker 4: I think would be up there with one of my
Speaker 4: favorite films. Really yeah, I think it's I mean it's
Speaker 4: probably it's a little dated now. I don't think you
Speaker 4: could make that sort of film now. In terms of
Speaker 4: the people who were in it, who were portraying mentally
Speaker 4: challenge people. I think probably today they would probably on
Speaker 4: the casting slightly different. It's a very very delicate thing
Speaker 4: to do, to go down that road of performance. I
Speaker 4: think they handled it really Who directed it and.
Speaker 1: So he did Armadaos he did the people versus Larry
Speaker 1: Flint he did hair, So yeah, I think he.
Speaker 4: I think that the performance did very It was a
Speaker 4: stage play, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It was, yes, as a novel, then they made a
Speaker 1: stage play. Novel was very different to this novel was
Speaker 1: like Ratchet was It was almost a bit more cartoon.
Speaker 1: It was more like a fear and loathing in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas as well. She was like inherently evil apparently, and
Speaker 1: she had massive breasts and one of the come up
Speaker 1: and was at the end her breast got exposed, you know,
Speaker 1: like in some kind of weird kind of almost like
Speaker 1: an eighties comedy kind of style. In fact, the author
Speaker 1: has never seen the movie and almost sued them. One
Speaker 1: of the big differences is Chief actually narrated the film,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of seen through his speaker until a
Speaker 1: certain point.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they change, I think, I got to say,
Speaker 1: And some differences may spring up as we as we
Speaker 1: talk about it more, but I think they made some
Speaker 1: really good choices with this film. As far as the adaptation, Well, yeah.
Speaker 4: There was something a film it's based on a lie? Really,
Speaker 4: isn't it? That he's not sick?
Speaker 1: And yeah, so what did you think when Jack Nixon
Speaker 1: at first arise McMurphy rimes, what were your vibes?
Speaker 2: Were you?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: This guy's not crazy?
Speaker 4: He's he's absolutely And that's what I love about Nicholson
Speaker 4: is he has that ability to do. He always has
Speaker 4: a sense of mischief about him about something. He's up
Speaker 4: to something. Yeah, but he's got the he's got just
Speaker 4: charisma in Bucket Nicholson doesn't have to do a thing
Speaker 4: on screen, and he's got so much charisma. He's just
Speaker 4: got that that smile, he just pushes his hair back,
Speaker 4: he's's got that swagger, he got it's hand in love
Speaker 4: that character for him. And you know, I can't quote
Speaker 4: the other films, but whenever I see him, always get
Speaker 4: that feeling from him. I've never met or he's never
Speaker 4: got to meet me, but I've never met him, but
Speaker 4: I just reckon, there's a lot of Jack in his roles.
Speaker 4: I just yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 1: True of most. Can you not be do you shed
Speaker 1: your skin completely? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think you know, you see people
Speaker 4: on Meryl Streep where you completely they've completely transformed. But
Speaker 4: Jack has that that that that style of as I said,
Speaker 4: keep on using the word mischief. He's just got it.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, so when he walks in the room and he's
Speaker 4: you know, going the crazy lie, you go, oh, here
Speaker 4: we go, here we go. This is going to be
Speaker 4: a journey. And I love it when people are faking it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it because we know the audience knows, he knows,
Speaker 4: does everybody else know. They probably do, but they so, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're already sort of ahead of the game because you
Speaker 4: can you can go okay. They don't know or they
Speaker 4: like especially with the other characters who are challenged, all that,
Speaker 4: all that where he just takes over with bravado and
Speaker 4: he gets to do things that everyone wants to do.
Speaker 4: He wants the baseball on, He takes them on a trip,
Speaker 4: on a boat trip. He challenges them, he argues with them,
Speaker 4: he gets them doing, He dances with the staff. He's
Speaker 4: doing all those things that you like to think, Well,
Speaker 4: that's how it might be, that's what you like to think.
Speaker 1: He treats him with humanity. When he's playing basketball with Chief,
Speaker 1: I don't think, why is he doing that? What's his
Speaker 1: motive for doing it? And I couldn't come up with
Speaker 1: anything outside of like, this is how he's passing his time.
Speaker 1: And he actually wants to connect these characters.
Speaker 4: Well he loves these people, yes, so he wants to
Speaker 4: give him something to do when he wants him to
Speaker 4: feel good. And because he's he epitomizes someone that because
Speaker 4: Chief is gives nothing I mean in the performance, but
Speaker 4: we know inside they he's got a huge heart. I
Speaker 4: think I think we know that, yes, and then you
Speaker 4: see that come at the end when well, I don't
Speaker 4: know whether we should give away the we'll.
Speaker 1: Get to the end. We'll keep that. But let's have
Speaker 1: a listen of Murphy arriving. They take the handcuffs off him,
Speaker 1: and there's there's almost like an even for Nicholson as
Speaker 1: an over the top, deliberately over the top reaction, like
Speaker 1: it's almost a cartoon version of crazy. And then they're
Speaker 1: in the in the office speaking to the guy who
Speaker 1: runs runs the joint. We should point out that he's
Speaker 1: in there nine for fighting. Is also it was in
Speaker 1: jail for a statutory rate, which again the film these
Speaker 1: can you imagine somebody writing a film with a protagonist,
Speaker 1: the person we're ultimately trying to cheer from, is actually
Speaker 1: in there for statutory rate. He doesn't. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: The seventies, they do. They were more they were happy
Speaker 1: of dealing with more confronting elements to their more complic
Speaker 1: head the characters something. But this is this is Jack
Speaker 1: Nicholson a work.
Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with you, mc murphy.
Speaker 2: What it says here.
Speaker 7: Is that they think they think you've been faking it
Speaker 7: in order to get out of your work detail.
Speaker 4: Why what do you think about that?
Speaker 8: I look like that kind of guy you die.
Speaker 4: Well, let's just be frank for a minute.
Speaker 5: After Randalls wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Tell me, do you think there's anything wrong with your mind?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 4: Not the thing.
Speaker 8: I'm a goddamn marvel and modern science.
Speaker 5: Well, you're going to be here for a period for
Speaker 5: us to evaluate you.
Speaker 2: We're going to study you.
Speaker 4: We'll make our determinations as to what we're going to
Speaker 4: do and give you the necessary treatment.
Speaker 9: And let me just tell you this, I'm here to
Speaker 9: cooperate with you one hundred percent. One hundred percent. I'll
Speaker 9: be just right down the line with it. You watch,
Speaker 9: because I think we are to get to the bottom.
Speaker 10: Of the r p mcworthhy So he's I mean, the
Speaker 10: voice is just do you get the feeling that that
Speaker 10: was semi improvised or is that they're just really well
Speaker 10: handled because there's a bit of crossover dialogue there was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just possibly, But I think it's funny, Glenn.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people improvisation, and I think
Speaker 1: acting is improvisation, you know what I mean, Like there's yeah, there's.
Speaker 4: Good actors make yeah, make it seem so organic.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's when I was watching Ogo, this feels so naturalist.
Speaker 1: Whole film feels really absolutistic. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's no over the top performances. I mean, Jack
Speaker 1: Jack is Jack, and he's giving a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: but even you know that the patients that you know,
Speaker 1: they they obviously have their things going on. And you
Speaker 1: know Chris Lloyd, you know, I mean I loved all
Speaker 1: the all the patients by the way I thought they were,
Speaker 1: so I did a great job of making them are
Speaker 1: all quite different. But I was in there.
Speaker 4: He played Martine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christopher Lloyd, he was the he was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: the big guy is a Tabor. Was his name Billy Billy, Yes,
Speaker 1: brad Derriff is his name, and he I know him
Speaker 1: instantly from one of my favorite films is Mississippi Burning. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's not. I think he's he married. He might
Speaker 1: be married to Francis McDormand I think in Mississippi Burning
Speaker 1: and he's not. He's part of the police department who
Speaker 1: who are basically not doing committing crimes and murdering black vocals.
Speaker 4: And he's a stutter.
Speaker 1: He has a stutter in this. Yeah, he's great. He's great.
Speaker 4: He's so likable and he's so sweet and yeah, and
Speaker 4: Jack again loves him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Chief, and you have Cheswick, who is
Speaker 1: played by Sydney Lassic, and he's he's the one who
Speaker 1: gone he first votes for the baseball. He's got the glasses,
Speaker 1: got a balding, quite prone to having an episode if
Speaker 1: you like, he's the one they drag in to get
Speaker 1: electric shots. Oh yeah, I thought he was really really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, they're worried about his mental health on set
Speaker 1: because he was like really getting into characters so much.
Speaker 1: In fact that in one I think the scene towards
Speaker 1: the end, which you'll get too later on, involving the pillow,
Speaker 1: he had to be removed from set because he was
Speaker 1: he was Yeah, yeah, but I thought I really like it.
Speaker 4: Well, So what you've got as a director, You've got
Speaker 4: that group of characters, and then you've got you drop
Speaker 4: in the middle of that, this fantastic McMurphy, a character
Speaker 4: that's living on a lie, played by Jack Nicholson. What
Speaker 4: a joy it is just to let that play and
Speaker 4: to see how it unfolds. And then as you watch
Speaker 4: the film what's to come, Yeah, is so knowing that
Speaker 4: it's not just going to be a week in the
Speaker 4: life of big things are going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know that Jack's plan is not going
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've created the ultimate villain in What's Nurse Ratchet?
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that's his That's the perfect scenario. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because within this playful arena, he's got people that he's
Speaker 4: really smarter than I suppose, he's got a system that's
Speaker 4: going to take care of him, and he figures he's
Speaker 4: going to be out of there pretty soon, so he
Speaker 4: may as well have as much fun as you can.
Speaker 1: Almost he almost thinks he's a member of staff, doesn't he. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way he interacts that scene before that, he's
Speaker 1: interacting like they're on the same level. And then he
Speaker 1: goes behind the nurses station you know quite often, you know,
Speaker 1: he thinks this is going to be easy, and the
Speaker 1: one thing in.
Speaker 4: His way, which is the old time, which is the
Speaker 4: perfect setup. Yeah, and he comes up, So therefore he's
Speaker 4: got something to push against. So yeah, you can see
Speaker 4: why it was a great film to make for the director.
Speaker 1: An interesting detail which I learned when I was doing
Speaker 1: a bit of a deep dive and this is amazing.
Speaker 1: I love to get your thoughts on it. So Milo's
Speaker 1: form and the director and Jack Nicholson had a bit
Speaker 1: of a disagreement, so you.
Speaker 4: Know stuff, I don't know, this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So two weeks they had two weeks where they had
Speaker 1: to stop filming and and then I don't think they
Speaker 1: barely spoke to each other. And based on the idea
Speaker 1: that it might have been during rehearsals or something, but
Speaker 1: based on the idea that they disagreed Miller's form. So
Speaker 1: the way it works now is that Jack Nicholson arrives
Speaker 1: and everything's pretty calm and peaceful, business as usual, Business
Speaker 1: as usual. Yeah, whatl Foreman wanted was for him to
Speaker 1: arrive and it to be like Bedlam already, and Jack
Speaker 1: Nicholson was saying, well, that doesn't work, like I need
Speaker 1: to be the hand grenade that kind of. Then these
Speaker 1: sets off these domino effects where all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it becomes chaotic and I've disrupted the apple cart, which
Speaker 1: I think makes a complete sense. Spot on, It is
Speaker 1: absolutely spot on.
Speaker 4: If I've saw Nicholson interviewed recently and he said, you
Speaker 4: know why I lasted so long because I'm a writer's
Speaker 4: he now has he written or but he I don't
Speaker 4: know of any scripts of movies I sented he's written,
Speaker 4: but he must have when he first started. And I
Speaker 4: imagine writing sensibility, so he knows how to set it
Speaker 4: up and what. So that's really interesting, isn't it that?
Speaker 4: Because I'm not saying that it would have spoilt the film,
Speaker 4: but with that under because you wanted to be a
Speaker 4: gentle place that he could Otherwise, because if he's a
Speaker 4: if he's been off the off his tree amongst people
Speaker 4: who are yeah, also struggling. I don't want to be
Speaker 4: flippant with my terms, yeah struggling. Then it's kind of like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: no big deal. But when he's taking these people from
Speaker 4: the mundane on a journey, it's so it's like a
Speaker 4: clown turning up to the playground. It is so you
Speaker 4: can see the looks on the on their faces when
Speaker 4: they when they start to get excited about the baseball
Speaker 4: and they start to they go on a boat trip
Speaker 4: of together and they go fishing, and then and then
Speaker 4: other things happen. So it's just a really smart move
Speaker 4: from him, I think.
Speaker 1: And also it feels like movie one Day one to me,
Speaker 1: Like most movies are often about a stranger who arrives
Speaker 1: and upsets everybody's routine, whether it's Andy dufrayin in the
Speaker 1: show Shank Redemption where and it's not very subtly. He's
Speaker 1: not a rabbel rouser as such, but he just upsets
Speaker 1: the routines of everybody, you know, whether it's the in parenthood,
Speaker 1: the who comes back into town, the black sheep of
Speaker 1: the family. He comes in and that kind of sets
Speaker 1: off various things, like it's you know, so what, And
Speaker 1: I suspect with Jack Sometimes you watching him give a
Speaker 1: speech even though you know what he seemed listened to before,
Speaker 1: and you think, yeah, there probably was like an extra
Speaker 1: line that Jack added there, like a turn of phrase
Speaker 1: or something that it's consistent in the roles that he takes.
Speaker 1: You kind of go, yeah, that that probably is a
Speaker 1: little bit of Jack. So I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: think I never knew that Jack Nicholson consider himself a writer.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what he could. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 4: that's why I lasted so well. I'm in the business. God,
Speaker 4: that's not about Jacket. That's pretty good mine, pretty good.
Speaker 4: I think I think you found you in new Thing.
Speaker 4: That's why it lasted so long. Yeah, because he knew
Speaker 4: how to pick a script. Yeah, I knew had a
Speaker 4: pick and he knew had.
Speaker 5: A you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Nurse Ratchet. Like, when I saw
Speaker 1: this movie, I saw when I was younger, not when
Speaker 1: I came out. Was it was it came out in
Speaker 1: the year I was born.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: So but I watched it I think when I was
Speaker 1: probably sixteen or so, when I was going through a
Speaker 1: bit of a sting age of like, oh I need
Speaker 1: to watch some classic films. And I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: And in my mind, I've gone along with the narrative
Speaker 1: that often gets put out there that Nurse Ratchet is evil.
Speaker 1: Watching it now, I had a different reaction to it.
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts, Well.
Speaker 4: I suppose that when you're younger, it represents authority, it
Speaker 4: represents control, represents everything you don't want.
Speaker 1: To have to do.
Speaker 4: You've got to take the medication, You've got to do that.
Speaker 4: We've got it because you're not like everybody else. You're
Speaker 4: not special, and that's what we rebel against. I think,
Speaker 4: whether it be government or whether it be whatever teaches
Speaker 4: you know your partner whatever. So I think to me
Speaker 4: it represents that. I'm not sure beyond that.
Speaker 1: I just think she as an adult. I'm watching it
Speaker 1: and maybe this is getting old around, like yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's played by the reals place. But for me, she's
Speaker 1: her job. Her job is to run this institution full
Speaker 1: of people who are struggling. There's not a lot in there.
Speaker 1: And let's put electric shock and lobotomy is aside, because
Speaker 1: that's not really her like that, that's the institution. Yes,
Speaker 1: but she gives him a chance that she gives the
Speaker 1: people a chance to suspect she she's mild.
Speaker 4: Mannered, that's but that's important to the role absolutely, because
Speaker 4: she realizes how much power that she has.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I think she does abuse her power.
Speaker 1: I think I think if my, if somebody I loved,
Speaker 1: was in this institution, I would hate nursery and I'd
Speaker 1: probably consider her evil. But from at a movie level,
Speaker 1: it was amazing to me and so clever, and so
Speaker 1: I think it makes it much more interesting that Nurse
Speaker 1: Ratchet isn't She's not, you know, a lunatic for one
Speaker 1: of a better term. She's she is just somebody like
Speaker 1: there's no I even liked the idea that there's no
Speaker 1: kind of evil plan happening behind the scenes. I think
Speaker 1: she actually, I think she's done a record of saying
Speaker 1: she believes her character cared about these patients, but she
Speaker 1: she got a little bit drunk with her power.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's that thing that wheen you if
Speaker 4: you're responsible to your task. Is that is that you
Speaker 4: do it appropriately. But then sometimes an ego will kick
Speaker 4: in and you will want to win. I think she
Speaker 4: wanted to win. I agree with that because he pushed
Speaker 4: He brought that out in her and pushed her and
Speaker 4: pushed her, and so therefore it became about winning and losing,
Speaker 4: and that in a film sense that's great. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's great because it does give you somewhere to go.
Speaker 4: If she was just professional, she would have realized that, Okay,
Speaker 4: well that's the rules and see you later, because I
Speaker 4: don't really need to worry. It went beyond that. It
Speaker 4: got personal.
Speaker 1: They went on. They got on the excursion and they
Speaker 1: go he s good escape by the way. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: there's no cut in that, and it looks like it
Speaker 1: is Jack Nicholson. It's nicely done, and he steals the bus.
Speaker 1: They go fishing. I do love the scene where they
Speaker 1: ask and he says, we're from the mental institution and
Speaker 1: as doctors, and they all look, it's funny. It's actually
Speaker 1: again interesting thing, isn't it. It's a doctor yep. And
Speaker 1: they all loved doctors, Yeah they did.
Speaker 4: They had long beards and their hair was a bit
Speaker 4: waywood and it didn't matter. And they're all just not
Speaker 4: in going and they didn't say anything. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: such a great you know, bit of again mischief. And
Speaker 4: they go fishing and there's a girl as a girl
Speaker 4: as well. There's the girl's girl's his girlfriend friend read
Speaker 4: you know, his girlfriend on enough girlfriends. She may be
Speaker 4: sex workers, you may not be. Every different opinions, and
Speaker 4: who Candy is and and they come. I would have
Speaker 4: loved to see the mark where they did catch the fish.
Speaker 4: But you know it was the last scene they shot
Speaker 4: because Millers storm and did not want to shoot it.
Speaker 4: Did Yeah, he didn't think it was that important.
Speaker 1: I disagree again, but because I think films like this,
Speaker 1: to see your community, your your gang, if you like,
Speaker 1: have victories, is so powerful, whether it's.
Speaker 4: And freedom, yes, yes, when they cross that line, you
Speaker 4: go oh, my god, here are people that we love
Speaker 4: getting to live again and to enjoy the things in
Speaker 4: life that we can do every day. And because you
Speaker 4: feel for them, because you love them so much, you
Speaker 4: attached to that scene.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's some subtext to the catching of the fish.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but being on a boat and go
Speaker 4: anywhere you want to go, there's something about that that's
Speaker 4: so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I mean share Shank has when he
Speaker 1: plays the music out, you know, and everyone's enjoying the music,
Speaker 1: thead poets, you know, that's full of these kinds of scenes.
Speaker 1: They come back and a little fact, Angelica Houston, who
Speaker 1: was Jack Nicholson's boyfriend at the time, he's on the
Speaker 1: pier just as really people waiting on the pian one
Speaker 1: of them is Angelica Houston. For the train spotters out there,
Speaker 1: what I'm going to it. They go back and they
Speaker 1: have the discussion whether McMurphy is actually crazy or not,
Speaker 1: and whether they should let him go or not. And
Speaker 1: it's Ratchet importantly that decides that she thinks he could stay,
Speaker 1: they could help him, and I I wonder if she's
Speaker 1: thinking and this is the point where that how bad.
Speaker 1: Is she Is she making the call to help him
Speaker 1: or is she making the call to punish him?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think yeah, I think so it's going back because
Speaker 4: she would she would do the punishment and then she
Speaker 4: would step away. But there was a sense of you
Speaker 4: will not beat me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Of all the people here, you're the most this what
Speaker 4: you could call me out. You could win, and I
Speaker 4: could be seen to have no power and that I
Speaker 4: will protect my power at all cost, whereas a good
Speaker 4: doctor would not do that, or good nurse would not
Speaker 4: do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A little bit earlier, you do have a scene where
Speaker 1: they're lining up for their medication, and this is again McMurphy,
Speaker 1: I guess, challenging the system.
Speaker 7: That music is for everyone's to make Murphy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 9: But do you think we might ease it down a
Speaker 9: little bit, so maybe the boys didn't have to sh
Speaker 9: shout huh.
Speaker 7: What you probably don't realize is that we have a
Speaker 7: lot of old men on this ward who couldn't hear
Speaker 7: the music if we turned it lower. That music is
Speaker 7: all they have. Your hand is staining my window.
Speaker 6: Sorry, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: Mis murphy medication, what's in the horse pill?
Speaker 9: It's just medicine.
Speaker 2: It's good for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't like the idea of taking something
Speaker 1: if I don't know.
Speaker 3: What it is.
Speaker 8: Don't get upset, mister McMurphy.
Speaker 4: I'm not getting upset, miss Pillbow.
Speaker 8: It's just that I don't want anyone to try and
Speaker 8: slip me salt.
Speaker 7: Peter Murphy doesn't want to take his medication orally. I'm
Speaker 7: sure we can arrange that he can have it some
Speaker 7: other way. But I don't think you'd like it, mister McMurphy.
Speaker 1: You'd like it, wouldn't.
Speaker 4: You've got to wonder whether that line is, whether it's
Speaker 4: a jackline exactly. I mean, it's easy to think to say,
Speaker 4: but but notice notice how she delivers those lines of
Speaker 4: power without any raging, any threats. She realized the potency
Speaker 4: in the power of that statement. You're not going to
Speaker 4: like it. And that's often when you see that in
Speaker 4: a film, you go, that is so powerful you don't
Speaker 4: need to over you don't need to overact that film.
Speaker 4: And she does it with nothing, knowing the power that
Speaker 4: she's got, and it's just that's did she.
Speaker 1: Win an award churs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, so I get I get, well,
Speaker 4: you don't have to do a lot to make that scene.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to diminish her performance. But she didn't
Speaker 4: know any She let it play.
Speaker 1: Yes, But sometimes that that choice is enough, isn't it,
Speaker 1: Because you do see people who overplay it, you know.
Speaker 1: But everything she said, though.
Speaker 4: It can't you know, like it's fair and responsible. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: and well.
Speaker 2: There are to the people.
Speaker 1: It's not all about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this could
Speaker 1: this could trigger other people, and and and yeah, we
Speaker 1: might go into it when when he's trying to this
Speaker 1: is when he's he's starting to realize that things this
Speaker 1: made life may not be as easy as he hoped
Speaker 1: it to be. I think this is the second time
Speaker 1: he pitches to have the World Series played in the
Speaker 1: in the building.
Speaker 2: General, you remember, don't you?
Speaker 4: October the banner the stars all say, can you're the
Speaker 4: World Series?
Speaker 9: Raise your hand up to by the dolls, Just raise
Speaker 9: your hand up like overt about you.
Speaker 2: I want to watch the ball game. I want to
Speaker 2: watch the ball game. Just one vote, Just raise your gentlemen.
Speaker 7: The meeting is adjourned for Christ's sake.
Speaker 9: I don't know what you fucking maybe acts when I'm
Speaker 9: talking about mister McMurphy.
Speaker 7: H the meeting is adjourned.
Speaker 2: All right, just wait a minute, will you just one minute?
Speaker 7: You can bring the subject up again tomorrow.
Speaker 8: All right, Chief, you're our last chance.
Speaker 7: What do you say?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: Just raise your hand up.
Speaker 9: That's all we need from you today, Chief, Just raise
Speaker 9: your hand up one time.
Speaker 2: Show her that you can do it. Just show her
Speaker 2: that you can still do it. Just raise your hand up.
Speaker 4: All the guys have got him up.
Speaker 8: Just raise your hand up, chief, will you?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: Come on, there's gotta be one guy in here that's
Speaker 2: not a voting mac cheef, the chief, let's rage.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 2: Look the Chief put his hand up.
Speaker 9: The Chief put his hand up.
Speaker 2: Bluck.
Speaker 7: He voted.
Speaker 2: Would you please turn this?
Speaker 9: Would you please turn the.
Speaker 4: Television set on to the Chief has got his hand.
Speaker 2: Up right there, the chief voting.
Speaker 9: Now, will you please turn the television set on.
Speaker 2: Mister McMurphy.
Speaker 7: The meeting was adjourned and the vote was closed.
Speaker 2: The volte was ten to eight. The Chief, he's got
Speaker 2: his hand up.
Speaker 7: Look no, mister McMurphy. When the meeting was adjourned, the
Speaker 7: vote was nine to nine.
Speaker 9: Come on, you're not going to see that now, you're
Speaker 9: not going to see that.
Speaker 1: Now, you're gonna pull that hand househit down.
Speaker 2: When the vote, the chief just voted it was ten
Speaker 2: to nine.
Speaker 1: I want that television set turned.
Speaker 4: On, right.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean it's it's I mean, because they're
Speaker 1: so close, they've done the vote, and he thought he
Speaker 1: was a landslide, but she said no, it's not just
Speaker 1: the people who's sitting in the circle, it's also you know,
Speaker 1: these lobotomized people as well. And yeah, that's that's when
Speaker 1: she does start turning the screws. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: will win and as much. And you can yell if
Speaker 1: you want, but I know that I have the element authority.
Speaker 1: And that's again, there's no yelling match here.
Speaker 4: You're done. Yeah, and we're done, but so close yet
Speaker 4: so far you can And that's what it's a joy
Speaker 4: to watch because you can just feel that frustrat and
Speaker 4: just boiling over, bubbling up inside. And we've all been
Speaker 4: in situations like that where you just go, you know,
Speaker 4: and when you're a kid, sometimes yeah, can I just
Speaker 4: stay up for one more? No, you've got to go
Speaker 4: to bed, to go to bed. But it's the shows,
Speaker 4: it's a show. You got to go to bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Or sometimes you want to have an
Speaker 1: argument with somebody and they're they're not they're not raising
Speaker 1: their voice to your level. I often, I think, to
Speaker 1: be honest, some people get frustrated with my my co
Speaker 1: host on the project while et L and I'm not
Speaker 1: comparing well lead in this ratchet but he never I've
Speaker 1: never heard him raise his voice. He's always mild mannered
Speaker 1: and he explains his position. And I think people want
Speaker 1: to some people just want to yell, they want to scream,
Speaker 1: you know, And.
Speaker 4: I'm working on it, and I'm working on it and
Speaker 4: I know, I know, and it's just.
Speaker 1: That we've had to adjust the microphone levels and it
Speaker 1: doesn't But it's so true because you know, when you
Speaker 1: have an argument with who no, no, no, but you
Speaker 1: get your voice is naturally Yeah.
Speaker 4: If I say it louder, you might hear me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what things. Yeah. Yeah. There's another point
Speaker 1: where actually remind Eve play where he realizes that some
Speaker 1: of the other inmates are not there by law, there voluntarily. Uh,
Speaker 1: And that's it's another moment.
Speaker 8: McMurphy Scanlon, Billy, for Christ's sake, you must be committed, right,
Speaker 8: You're just.
Speaker 1: A young kid.
Speaker 4: What are you doing here?
Speaker 9: You got to be out in a convertible bird dog
Speaker 9: and chicks and banging beaver?
Speaker 2: What are you doing here? For christ?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 2: It's funny about that.
Speaker 8: Well, Jesus, I mean you guys do nothing but complain
Speaker 8: about how you can't stand it in this place here,
Speaker 8: and then you haven't got.
Speaker 2: The guts just to walk out.
Speaker 9: What do you think you are, for Christ's sake, crazy
Speaker 9: or something?
Speaker 2: Well, you're not. You're not.
Speaker 1: You're no crazier in the.
Speaker 9: Average asshole out walking around on the streets.
Speaker 1: And that's it. Jesus, Christy, I can't even believe it.
Speaker 7: Those are very challenging observations.
Speaker 1: You made around on again again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's fear. It's the fear and all of us,
Speaker 4: the fear of moving forward, the fear of actually getting
Speaker 4: out from leaving the family, leaving the school, whatever it is,
Speaker 4: and actually enjoying life. I saw I saw a David
Speaker 4: Bowie a clip on Instagram, I think the other day,
Speaker 4: and he said, when you're working creatively, go to where
Speaker 4: it's like a swimming pool. I think I'm not doing
Speaker 4: this justice. It's like a swimming pool. But when you
Speaker 4: get when you can only touch the bottom with your
Speaker 4: tippy toes, go a bit further, because that's when it
Speaker 4: gets scary and exciting. And that's that's what if he's
Speaker 4: just he stays in that world, Bill, he stays in
Speaker 4: that world because it's safe and he knows it because
Speaker 4: he's too scared. He just hasn't got the the maturity
Speaker 4: or the wherewithal any and that would be in psycho analysis,
Speaker 4: would probably say that it's his upbringing that he was
Speaker 4: not He's not worthy enough, he's not smart enough, and
Speaker 4: that's and that's why he stays trapped, which again heightens
Speaker 4: the tragedy of it all. And we understand it.
Speaker 1: I just want to add Chief, like you said earlier,
Speaker 1: there's an inherent goodness about Chief. He's an observer. You know,
Speaker 1: there's things stirring inside. And I mean again we rather
Speaker 1: this is where where we first he well, we've just
Speaker 1: heard he hands him some juicy fruit. He takes the
Speaker 1: juicy fruit and he says thanks. And this is McMurphy's reaction.
Speaker 5: Will you Slie's Chief?
Speaker 2: Can you hear me too?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 7: You did.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: You got damn Chief, and.
Speaker 5: They all they all think you're you're deaf and dumb.
Speaker 1: Jesus right, I'm full of cheap, you're fool of you
Speaker 1: fool them all.
Speaker 6: What are we doing in here?
Speaker 5: Cheap?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: What's us two guys doing is a fucking place. Let's
Speaker 5: get out of here.
Speaker 6: Out dam Canada won't be there before these sons of
Speaker 6: bitches know what hit them.
Speaker 4: It's a random on this one.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think it's the hot and soul
Speaker 1: of the film. This relationship is it fools really early
Speaker 1: and then then this is, you know, an escalation of
Speaker 1: the relationship when McMurphy realizes the Chief can speak, and
Speaker 1: there's a beautiful line and to have a conversation early
Speaker 1: later on where Chief says he's about getting out and
Speaker 1: Chief says, I'm not sure if I can. You know,
Speaker 1: you're a lot bigger than me, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful lie considering the size of him. Yes, beautiful relationship,
Speaker 1: it says a lot.
Speaker 4: And I guess it represents what what Jack is doing himself.
Speaker 4: So here it's kinship, it's it's brotherhood. Yeah, yeah, at
Speaker 4: that moment because god damn yeah, he's loving it because
Speaker 4: it's exactly what he's doing in a way.
Speaker 1: One of the beautiful things about the film is that
Speaker 1: Jack has seen the value in all these all these people. Yes,
Speaker 1: and and even in you know the Seventh Foot, you
Speaker 1: know Native American guy who doesn't say anything. You know,
Speaker 1: he's seen him, and I think it's it's amazing. Chief
Speaker 1: was played by a guy called Will Sampson who wasn't
Speaker 1: an actor. He was a park ranger in Oregon, really,
Speaker 1: but they could not find anyone who physically it's the
Speaker 1: physicality of Chief. So he got the role and continue
Speaker 1: to get work. And you know, I said, in America,
Speaker 1: not a whole bunch of work. You know, six 't
Speaker 1: five Native American Indians or Native American Indians, but he
Speaker 1: has got some work. And I think he's also you know,
Speaker 1: he helps represent Native American in the industry. And ashs
Speaker 1: acting goes so all right, let's let's get to the end.
Speaker 1: So well, McMurphy's getting out. He decides to throw a party.
Speaker 1: He's got a great man's escapeman Crothers, who he was
Speaker 1: also with him in The Shining and he basically bribes
Speaker 1: him to get the girls in the Booze. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a it's dodgy transaction. There's some
Speaker 1: money in Behold, there's maybe some promises made, and it's
Speaker 1: basically becomes like a frat house. Yeah, absolutely, it's fun.
Speaker 1: And then it's kind of laid quite nicely in the
Speaker 1: boat where it's a very short little moment we see
Speaker 1: with Billy and Candy and they're having a short little conversation,
Speaker 1: but you can kind of see that, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: even in hindsight, you can kind of see that Billy,
Speaker 1: you know, has maybe feelings for Candy. And then this
Speaker 1: comes up and I mean, Murphy is about to leave.
Speaker 1: He's literally about the jump out the window. I think
Speaker 1: we've chief. I think the plan was the Chief to
Speaker 1: go with him. At this stage, Billy's upset. So close,
Speaker 1: he's so close, He's so close, which is just amazing
Speaker 1: filmmaking and writing, and he's basically out the window and
Speaker 1: he's everyone's saying goodbye. Everyone's happy to see him, not
Speaker 1: happy to see him go, but like happy for him.
Speaker 1: And then Billy is the one that kind of says,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to miss you and I'm not
Speaker 1: ready for you to go, and I you know, I
Speaker 1: forget if he says he likes Candy or McMurphy sees
Speaker 1: it in him, so he organizes we you know, we
Speaker 1: can get into the debate all that. But happens they
Speaker 1: go into one of the cells, I guess. And what's
Speaker 1: amazing I found, Glenn, is that basically they it cuts
Speaker 1: to mourning and Nicholson's passed out, you know, right next
Speaker 1: to the window. The bottles there again, so close, And
Speaker 1: basically he missed his opportunity to go out. Basically, he's
Speaker 1: expecting this to happen very quickly. He'll he'll pretty sure ejaculate,
Speaker 1: he will be out in three minutes and we'll go.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't. Actually, you know, they make love. They've
Speaker 1: actually the next morning they're still holding each other.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and and but that leads to McMurphy not
Speaker 1: escaping because he waits, which is a beautiful thing in itself. Well,
Speaker 1: he could have actually gone, I'm out. Yep, you know
Speaker 1: this is taken too long. They'll kick Candy out. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: which is fine. I'm just going to I'm going for it.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't. He stays and waits, and he passes out,
Speaker 1: and then they find him in the morning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they could be. It could have been a
Speaker 4: beautiful nding. It could have as a film. As a storyteller,
Speaker 4: you could go, well, he came in, he did that,
Speaker 4: he changed those people, and and look what happened. And
Speaker 4: then you see him running across. You've seen him running
Speaker 4: across and that represents life. Yeah, in the beautiful filmmaking
Speaker 4: that it is, that's not what happens.
Speaker 1: We're not done yet. We're not done yet. So the
Speaker 1: nurse ratchet basically, you know, finds everybody and again a
Speaker 1: fair enough reaction as far as like being pissed off
Speaker 1: that hang on, this is not supposed to happen. How
Speaker 1: has this happened?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: I think if you're in charge of the facility, you
Speaker 1: walk into that, you know, and they find Billy and
Speaker 1: Candy in the in the cell and they drag her
Speaker 1: out and it goes yeah, a while, So we won't
Speaker 1: play all of it, but there's a moment where everyone's
Speaker 1: willing Billy on and Billy's enjoying the support that he's
Speaker 1: getting and the cheers that he's getting. He's also just
Speaker 1: had this amazing maybe the most amazing night of his life. Yes,
Speaker 1: so he's on a high from that he's feeling pretty happy,
Speaker 1: and we feel, I think we're kind of trained in
Speaker 1: movie terms to feel like this is going to go
Speaker 1: to the point where he finds his courage to stand
Speaker 1: up the nurse Ratchet, And that's what I think everybody
Speaker 1: else feels like they're watching. And the nurse Ratchet turns
Speaker 1: the screws and she knows the triggers. She mentions his mother,
Speaker 1: and we'll pick it up from there.
Speaker 7: Don't tell them you think you should have thought of
Speaker 7: that before you took that woman in that room.
Speaker 1: No, no, I I di, I died. I I didn't.
Speaker 8: You mean she dragged you in there by force?
Speaker 6: Sh sh.
Speaker 5: She she she she she did.
Speaker 3: Every every everybody did everybody?
Speaker 1: Who did?
Speaker 2: You tell me who did?
Speaker 3: Mm m m m m m m m m m Murphy,
Speaker 3: mister Ratch, please please don't tell mister Warren my mother.
Speaker 7: Please would you see that the man are washed and
Speaker 7: ready for the day.
Speaker 3: Miss Rache, please, please please please don't to Washington.
Speaker 7: Put Billy and doctor.
Speaker 8: Come on right here me go.
Speaker 1: You know, So that's him hitting, that's hitting himself. Hard
Speaker 1: to watch, it's it's hard to It's what's amazing when
Speaker 1: you watch it, though, is not just the performance of
Speaker 1: Brad and Louise Fletcher, but it's it's also the reactions
Speaker 1: from the gallery that's watching and I reckon. It's the
Speaker 1: first time it dawns on McMurphy that no, Billy is
Speaker 1: sick and he does actually need help Weather this is
Speaker 1: the help he needs. But yeah, he goes, oh, these
Speaker 1: people are these these people aren't just here for you know,
Speaker 1: for no reason. They're actually they do need help. And
Speaker 1: all the reactions from the veto and Christopher Lloyd and
Speaker 1: Nicholson and everyone is incredible watching it because they've gone
Speaker 1: from this cheer, we're cheering you on, we know what
Speaker 1: just happened. And it's almost like he goes from you know,
Speaker 1: watching your mate take on the school principle and maybe
Speaker 1: having a few wins, to oh, no, you're you're getting expelled.
Speaker 4: It's ju just supposed the joy and the and the
Speaker 4: finding of the real self as and then authority steps in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're not we're not done, Glenn, because
Speaker 1: and then the ultimate card is played, the ultimate And
Speaker 1: we should point out when the book was written, the
Speaker 1: bottom meyes was still happening, letter shot was still happening,
Speaker 1: and when the movie comes, Let's shot still happens. Lets
Speaker 1: you shock, it still happens. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1: Let your shock therapy now to know how if it's
Speaker 1: as brutal.
Speaker 4: I would be done under under anesthetic. I would imagine
Speaker 4: now where it was then it was probably done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the lot of these were only this being
Speaker 1: kind of taken out around around the time this movie
Speaker 1: is released, so it's kind of still kind of happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he gets lobottomized McMurphy. It's an act of love happens.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, well I agree, yeah yeah, do
Speaker 4: we say yeah, yeah, well, well I don't get the
Speaker 4: angry at this.
Speaker 1: No, obviously watched the film We're about. This is the
Speaker 1: final moment, yeah.
Speaker 4: Which Chief realizes that was what happened, and he tries
Speaker 4: to talk to him and McMurphy is basically lifeless, but
Speaker 4: it's still alive, and he smothers him and puts him
Speaker 4: because he because he loves him. He doesn't want him
Speaker 4: to be that he went and he in a way
Speaker 4: gives him, He gives him freedom by killing.
Speaker 1: Him, and then he goes back to that basin that
Speaker 1: McMurphy tried to use to escape earlier, and he takes
Speaker 1: it through the window, smashes it.
Speaker 4: What's that represent? Do you think the being helped to
Speaker 4: pick that up because it was a massive weight, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it's it's it's obviously it's probably
Speaker 1: the obstacle because that the windows of someone like chief.
Speaker 1: It's not really an obstacle. Is it in a way symbolic?
Speaker 4: Did he pick that up?
Speaker 1: Yes? And it's also it does you know? It is
Speaker 1: foreshadowed earlier with when McMurphy tries and he couldn't do it. Yes,
Speaker 1: And so he finds the strength and when he says earlier,
Speaker 1: you're bigger than me, like, I don't think he sees
Speaker 1: himself as he doesn't use his strength. It's interesting. And
Speaker 1: then he finally uses his strength and and throws it
Speaker 1: through and then this walks off. It walks off, he
Speaker 1: walks off. Yeah, it doesn't you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure there is something about, you know,
Speaker 1: thematically about a Native American kind of being in yes,
Speaker 1: and and having everything taken from him and then walking
Speaker 1: off into the land into this beautiful vista that we
Speaker 1: see in the very opening shot. But yes, I I Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think it's incredible. I think was it It's
Speaker 1: weird maybe to ask it now because we've just spoken
Speaker 1: about the most grim Well it's green with the lobotomy,
Speaker 1: but then it's this optimistic.
Speaker 4: Did you find that's the ultimate card though, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: There was a lightness a lot like the times where
Speaker 1: this plays like a comedy.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh that's why it's such a good film.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's black and it's dark, and yet what plays
Speaker 4: on top of that is joyful and a celebration of
Speaker 4: life and a realization and a learning of each character
Speaker 4: in some ways, learning about different sides of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and overcoming that true someone who is you know, up
Speaker 4: to no good but actually up to He brings life
Speaker 4: to that place in a dramatic sense. He dies, which
Speaker 4: is incredibly powerful. It goes away this two shell pass film.
Speaker 4: School just paid for itself exactly. I've got some fun
Speaker 4: facts before we finish up. But I just think I
Speaker 4: love rewatching this film. You've been great with the facts
Speaker 4: because I haven't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's part of my job, because you know, it is
Speaker 1: your show. It's my show. It's like coming over and
Speaker 1: there's no there's no cheese platter. Yeah, that's right, but
Speaker 1: it does come with homework, and I do sincerely thank
Speaker 1: you for doing your homework and watching it. You are
Speaker 1: a busy man and it's genuinely a thrill. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm going to embarrass you. I did mention it in
Speaker 1: the intro, but you were and I'm sure I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this to you before, but growing up you were my
Speaker 1: comedy heroes and you for you to keep the bar
Speaker 1: so high over such a long period of time is incredible.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. You're always finny saying that, Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: a bit of cheap in me I don't want to get,
Speaker 4: but there's acknowledgment of what I've done. And sometimes you
Speaker 4: are in denial of it. Sometimes you do. You look forward,
Speaker 4: you don't look back, and so I appreciate you saying
Speaker 4: that it's good.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to get a pillow and put over.
Speaker 1: Having you said that, we've still got time, We still
Speaker 1: I've got info in you that could destroy your Please don't,
Speaker 1: please don't. Jack Nicholson took a pay cup for this
Speaker 1: because he was white hat and took a percentage of profits,
Speaker 1: which was a good move. A movie grossed one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars at the box office, and I
Speaker 1: imagine he's still growing. Luise Fletcher was kind of annoyed.
Speaker 1: She understood the role and what acting is, but she
Speaker 1: was nurse in the nurse stretcher was a bit frustrated
Speaker 1: that she was the only one who couldn't kind of
Speaker 1: she had to stay in that kind of right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she was like the stern one all the time.
Speaker 1: So for some reason she decided to prove that she
Speaker 1: wasn't a cold hearted monster. She shipped down under her
Speaker 1: undies for one after after shooting, which you would never
Speaker 1: do that I've seen Russell Kit made. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: out of all the comedians in Australia, you do You're
Speaker 1: fine of a g banger, aren't you.
Speaker 4: The question that Tom and I would always ask, what's
Speaker 4: the worst thing that could happen right now? As in
Speaker 4: some girl guides are walking past. The worst thing it
Speaker 4: could happen is his pants fall down, and we would
Speaker 4: make that happen. It wasn't my We didn't go in
Speaker 4: I didn't go into that showgate how can I pull
Speaker 4: my pants down? We would say, what's the worst thing?
Speaker 1: Luis fletcherse wins the Oscar and he's the first person
Speaker 1: of your sign language. At an Oscar's presentation, she thanked
Speaker 1: her mum and dad. I'm not sure what her family
Speaker 1: set up. If there's one who's hearing impaired or not,
Speaker 1: I assume one of them is. He's played in Swedish
Speaker 1: cinemas from nineteen seventy five to nine and eighty seven continuously.
Speaker 1: That's still a record.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not notice about Jack Nicholson. He not
Speaker 1: long before this film was made. He got a phone
Speaker 1: call from Time magazine telling him we dook a big
Speaker 1: piece on you. We've done some research and your parents
Speaker 1: aren't your parents? Now, how does this imagine TV Week
Speaker 1: given you this call Glennie and saying that your your
Speaker 1: grandparents are your parents and the person who you think
Speaker 1: is your older sister is your mother.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot to take
Speaker 1: it's a lot to take in. It's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: might need to call you back and answer the rest
Speaker 1: of the questions. It's a big one. It's a big
Speaker 1: phone called to get and final fact this Kirk Douglas
Speaker 1: brought the rights for the book and he was trying
Speaker 1: to get it made.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 1: Nobody was interested in making it. Eventually, I think he
Speaker 1: aged out of playing the role mc murphy, so he
Speaker 1: kind of gave up on it. He gets another good
Speaker 1: one for streamed voice.
Speaker 4: No, it's not good.
Speaker 1: Jack's bad. Jackie is good. And then so your son,
Speaker 1: Michael Douglas. People kind of didn't realize produ Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a producer and he got it made. And that's
Speaker 1: why Danny DeVito's and he was a good mate of
Speaker 1: Michael Douglas. He got Jack on board, and so Kirk
Speaker 1: had to watch his son kind of make it. Listen
Speaker 1: to a smash hit the film he couldn't get made.
Speaker 4: Couldn't if they did a remake it would you like
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 1: Nurse Ratch? Who would you be?
Speaker 4: I don't know whether I've got that. I'm more conservative,
Speaker 4: you know, than Jack, but if I would love to,
Speaker 4: I would love to be the naughty boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if not, I could see you as the old
Speaker 1: guy dancing around.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you are. You are light on your foot,
Speaker 1: Yes I am, Yeah, be happy with that.
Speaker 4: I was just happy to be part of it.
Speaker 1: We all we can't wait to start shooting mate. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Jam, It's been a thrill. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you enjoyed enjoyed it and anything coming up when you
Speaker 1: want to quickly plug anything.
Speaker 4: I do a podcast with Dava Neil course somehow related.
Speaker 4: I would love you to tune in and have some
Speaker 4: fun on that. I'm in the second series of Fisk
Speaker 4: just for one episode and the rest of the time
Speaker 4: is doing a little bit of surfing, playing a little
Speaker 4: bit of golf, and that's about it. I'm off to
Speaker 4: do my podcast right now.
Speaker 1: And if they see you playing golf, you're open to
Speaker 1: Uncle Arthur impressions.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I've been approached on a golf course, but someone
Speaker 4: are playing with me, he said to me. He goes,
Speaker 4: I got my son on the phone. Do just just
Speaker 4: do a bit of us call me through the phane, Mate,
Speaker 4: you can't afford it.
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 1: I played nine holes recently by myself, and I've seen
Speaker 1: that with this dad keV and he's two younger sons
Speaker 1: in their twenties, and we got I was only playing nine.
Speaker 1: We got to the ninth hole and we're about to
Speaker 1: tee off and we're just waiting for the group ahead,
Speaker 1: and I said, we have to ask when Strawnie coming
Speaker 1: back and they looked at each other. Ah, I thought
Speaker 1: you wouldn't ask. I thought you wouldn't ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had a bit of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, thanks mate. Well that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Glenn Robbins, the legend that is Glenn Robins talking one
Speaker 1: flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. I really enjoyed that. Like
Speaker 1: I said in the intro, Glenn meant it a lot
Speaker 1: to me. Growing up, he was one of the funniest
Speaker 1: people on TV and the fact that he still is
Speaker 1: one of the funniest people on TV is just massive.
Speaker 1: It's massive. What and not just his comedy champs, but
Speaker 1: just he's a lovely bloke and has always had time
Speaker 1: for me and other you know, comics coming through I
Speaker 1: say coming through now I'm probably passed the point of
Speaker 1: coming through, but anyway, whatever, Glenn, Glenn, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: dot you for having put this together. And next week
Speaker 1: on the show Big One, an old maid of mine
Speaker 1: talking about coming through. We started on the TV show
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Speaker 1: a year before we moved on to Channel ten with
Speaker 1: Row of Live. Mister Dave Callen will be joining me
Speaker 1: on You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet. Yes, Dave Callen will
Speaker 1: be on, and we will be talking about the movie
Speaker 1: comedy Bill Murray, John Candy. It's stripes, Yes, stripes, next
Speaker 1: week on You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet, and I will
Speaker 1: be trying to get Dave to say trousers. Until then,
Speaker 1: stay safe, And so we leave old Pete see Mansul.
Speaker 1: And to our friends of the radio audience, we've been
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