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Speaker 1: And Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago that Mark Fanell was chatting

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Speaker 2: to us about stuff the British style. This time he's

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Speaker 2: putting a stamp on a new show, a first of

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Speaker 2: its kind series called The Secret DNA of Us.

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Speaker 1: Mark High, Hello, I love the investigation music. It's good,

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Speaker 1: isn't it, Wing down some sunglasses and like making some

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Speaker 1: quip about a dead body.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about this a bit earlier and

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Speaker 2: Jonesy was saying, do you imagine the papers you'd have

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Speaker 2: to sign for this? But so a variety of entire

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Speaker 2: towns were asked to give over their DNA.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have four episodes, four different towns across Australia,

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Speaker 1: and we rock up and we offer mass DNA tests,

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Speaker 1: We offer people volunteer and then what you do is

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Speaker 1: you unravel the DNA that holds the town together. We

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Speaker 1: uncover incredible family mysteries. So in one town we discovered

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Speaker 1: a woman who just lived above the poverty line for

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Speaker 1: her entire life. It turns out spoiler alert, she is

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Speaker 1: related to royalty and she's never known. There's another family

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Speaker 1: that think that they've had this family story for a year.

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Speaker 1: Is that their great grandfather was a French count.

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Speaker 2: Everyone tells that story, but.

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Speaker 1: This story, the reality of it, is ten times weirder.

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Speaker 1: It ends up going via New Caledonia back hundred years

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Speaker 1: of Australia's history. And I think the thing that's amazing

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Speaker 1: is like, when you actually dig into people's DNA, you

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Speaker 1: realize that hiding within all of us is this saga, right,

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Speaker 1: because we all trace back our stories all around the world,

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Speaker 1: and all of that story is contained within our DNA.

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Speaker 1: But it's also how you tell the story of Australia, right,

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Speaker 1: because we bring everyone together and at the end of

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Speaker 1: the week, we're in the town and then we bring

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Speaker 1: these people up together and they don't know what connects them,

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Speaker 1: and then you get to reveal actually you are all

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Speaker 1: a little bit Indian, and for some people it reveals

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Speaker 1: parts about their family history that they've never heard seen before.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly, I remember standing there when we shot the

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Speaker 1: first episode in this with hundreds of people revealing their

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Speaker 1: DNA connections, and I just remember thinking, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this is the best show I've ever worked on,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely the weirdest.

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Speaker 2: Well, with some of the towns, like, for example, bathists.

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Speaker 2: There may be commute families that have been in the

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Speaker 2: same community, but you also do it in Surrey Hills.

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Speaker 2: What a disparate community that is.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so interesting because I thought that too. But

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Speaker 1: then when everyone's together and they're realizing they have these

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Speaker 1: DNA connections. We do a thing called cousin matching where

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Speaker 1: we bring a person up and then we got a

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Speaker 1: dating show it should be and like they look at

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Speaker 1: a room one hundred people go, do you think you're

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Speaker 1: related to anyone here? And they're like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: anyone in this room. And then you bring up some

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Speaker 1: random person and you say the next gume you are

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Speaker 1: actually second cousin.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And you can do that anywhere in Australia, but in

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Speaker 1: Surrey Hills you're right. You don't think of it as

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Speaker 1: like a tight knitz community, like a country town, but

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Speaker 1: actually there are all of these connections there that people

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Speaker 1: didn't realize. But it's also you also learn a lot

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Speaker 1: about how Australia was built, because when you realize those

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Speaker 1: DNA connections, it actually tells you about these waves of

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Speaker 1: migration that have created Australia. So on the one hand,

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Speaker 1: I joke it is who do you think you are?

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Speaker 3: On crack?

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Speaker 1: But it also kind of good do you think you are?

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Speaker 1: For Australia as well?

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Speaker 3: It's amazing yew has any unsavory stuff come out? Like

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Speaker 3: ben Affleck style, you know, he discovered we've discovered that

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Speaker 3: he was his dad was a slaver.

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Speaker 1: And well not his dad, but his dad would be

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Speaker 1: late in the game.

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Speaker 3: He's not well, it was back his heritage was from

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Speaker 3: slavery totally as an owner.

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Speaker 1: There are some unsavory stories. We're very careful with how

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Speaker 1: we do it right because you're dealing with, you know,

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Speaker 1: how people feel about their family, how people feel about

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Speaker 1: themselves is very sensitive, so we walked through it in

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Speaker 1: a very careful way. There's this one woman, absolutely lovely

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Speaker 1: new mum who has always heard this story that there

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Speaker 1: were bushrangers in her family history, and we bit by

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Speaker 1: bit lay the pieces out and it turns out it's

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Speaker 1: much more complicated than that. But when you reveal that

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Speaker 1: there's crime in people's history that you don't quite know

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Speaker 1: how they're going to react and often what people's particular

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Speaker 1: I think, particularly in Australia, I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: worked this way in any other country, But in Australia,

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Speaker 1: when you tell people that they have a criminal in

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Speaker 1: their past, usually they're a bit proud.

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Speaker 2: I did, who do you think you are? And they

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Speaker 2: came around to interview the family before we started, and

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Speaker 2: my son Jack was probably eight or nine, and they said,

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Speaker 2: what are you hoping you'll discover? And he said he

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Speaker 2: was big into basketball. He was hoping we'd be related

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Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan. How did that go? I might have

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Speaker 2: to go back and relaest we didn't find anything of

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Speaker 2: those connections.

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Speaker 3: Well, Margaret's always great to talk to you. The secret

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Speaker 3: DNA of view of US, not the US, because that's

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Speaker 3: a whole different.

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Speaker 1: Kettle of fish that one needs a bigger budget, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of in breeding there. Premier is at seven thirty

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Speaker 3: eight Pril seventeen on SBS and SBS demand. Marke Fanell,

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us, Lovely bo