1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Jum Mission with Jones and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: Grace Tame is back in the news again. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Well, there was a photo that has been used to 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: discredit her, that has been published in the newspapers this week. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: You say, Brennan at the photo she put her on 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: her own instace. It's a photo of her, she's holding 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: a giant bomb on a couch and it was taken 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: when she was much younger. But in twenty fourteen she 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: posted on her on her Insta and then took it down. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: No one knew who Grace Chan was. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: No, and then when she became a person of more 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: prominence as the Australian of the Year, she removed fair enough 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: she then this has been put I don't know who 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: made the decision, but a number of media outlets have 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: used this photo. It was published again last week, used 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: to discredit and to shame her. Really, this is to say, 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, as we were talking about with Claire Stevens earlier, 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: we don't like it when young women don't behave as 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: we'd like them too. She's getting up at he let's show. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: This happened to Joan of ARC did it? 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Pretty much? 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: She got up at it and they burned her at 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the stage. 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was back in the day. We don't 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: like and the same with Adam Goods. We don't like 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: people speaking out, and particularly we're doing. 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: It, but particularly women. We don't like. 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: Its white guy. You can say whatever you want, you 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: can get a job at talk back radio, yes, But 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: really people like Grace Tame. And it's so easy to 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: sit there and say, oh, come on, but when you 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: look at the facts, if you read about what happened 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: with Grace Tame when she was young, you go, okay, 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: fair enough. 36 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: But women have been agitating for a whole lot of 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: things for years and years and years. If you look 38 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: back through the history of all the women who've started 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: the women's movement who have fought, and not all of 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: them have done it aggressively, but some really have and 41 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: that has swung the pendulum. That's what you need for 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: people to take notice. And Grace is just living her truth. 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: And she wrote an open letter over the weekend that 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to read some of it to you because 45 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: it was so incredible, so articulate as to why that 46 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: was a terrible thing to do to publish that photo. 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: She said to every media outlet who sought to discredit 48 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: me by publishing that photo, although my humor and strength 49 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: remain intact. I'd be lying if I said it didn't 50 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: let me down, not just as an individual, but more 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: so an advocate of the survivor community. At every point 52 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: on the national stage, I might add, I've been completely transparent, 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: but all the demons I've battled in the aftermath of 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: child sexual abuse, drug addiction, self harm, anarexia, PTSD, among others, 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you just clearly haven't been listening. Whilst we must acknowledge 56 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: that the harm that drugs can cause, if we want 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: to have an open and honest discussion about child sexual 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: abuse in this country, we must also have an open 59 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: and honest discussion about trauma and what that looks like. 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: It can be ugly, it can look like drugs like 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: self harm, skipping school, getting impulsive tattoos, and all kinds 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: of other unconscious self destructive coping mechanisms. Do not seek 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: to shame or judge survivors for any of their choices. 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: For anyone who needs to hear this, it's not your fault. 65 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: There are survivor others out there who were terrified of 66 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: seeking help because they're afraid they'll be blamed for what 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: happened to them. They're afraid they'll be chastised for their 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: coping strategies instead of being offered support and treated for 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: the cause of their suffering. And what do you think 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: happens when they see the mainstream media deliberately brutalized survivor 71 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: advocates like me for actions I took when I was 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: nineteen and still trying to process something I didn't understand. 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: Publicly shaming survivors for their past is as low as 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: you can go. You've chosen to punish the product of 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: the evil, not the evil itself. I blamed myself for 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: what a fifty eight year old man did to me 77 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: when I was fifteen. In the years that followed, I 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: beat myself up relentlessly. I thought everyone around me blamed 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: me too. To cope, I engage in activities I deemed 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: befitting of a person as worthless as I deemed myself 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to be. Shame is embedded in the experience of child 82 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: sexual abuse. It survives in every part of your being 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: long after the physical acts have ceased. Infused at the 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: unconscious level, you have very little control over it. Once 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: it's there, It's a life sentence that said, healing self love. 86 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: They triumph and total transcend all possible. But they require patience, compassion, 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: encouragement and forgiveness. They require ongoing community support. On that note, 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: it's with a swollen heart that I wish to thank 89 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: the legions of strangers and friends from all over Australia 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: who showed up for survivors by calling out the unnecessary 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: shaming stunt on Monday. Our foundation received a record number 92 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: of donations that day, bringing us one step closer to 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: a future free of sexual abuse for childrens and others. 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Now that's a story worth publishing, She says, there you 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: go amazing. And then she has reposted this picture herself 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: of her sitting on a couch with this enormous bomb 97 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and she said, all right, I confess we're doing a 98 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: cover of April Son and Cuba on the oboe, but 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: absolutely look at watch why shame someone who's surviving abuse? 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: Grace Tame, I admire you enormously. Jonesy and Amanda's Nation