Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week that line, Hey guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with the winner
Speaker 1: of Australian Survivor, Ferris, who is here to share his
Speaker 1: story and man alive. Are you all in for a
Speaker 1: treat today? Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels was a showdown
Speaker 1: that pitted the winners against the underdogs and the big
Speaker 1: wigs against the battlers, with an emotional outcome seeing an
Speaker 1: original rebel walking away with a grand prize of half
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Before I go on, I would love
Speaker 1: to acknowledge Mark and Caroline who both did so well
Speaker 1: and kudos to them for their ability to survive on
Speaker 1: the island of Samoa for forty seven days. Ferris from Sydney,
Speaker 1: New South Wales was fearfully loyal to his allies. He
Speaker 1: played a confidence social game that allowed him to recover
Speaker 1: at times from a few blunders that almost Say's game
Speaker 1: end a couple of times throughout the series, most noticeably
Speaker 1: during the Tribe Switch, where his back was totally up
Speaker 1: against a wall. After the game's merge, Ferris settled into
Speaker 1: a cupfortable position and was rarely targeted despite having a
Speaker 1: public but yet hidden immunity idol at that point of
Speaker 1: the game. His decision to align with Kirby created a
Speaker 1: formidable duo that brought both of them success and subsequently
Speaker 1: afforded him a guaranteed path to the Final two. However,
Speaker 1: when Kirby lost immunity at the Final five, Ferris took
Speaker 1: a big risk dispensing of her and came super close
Speaker 1: to being eliminated himself when he lost the next immunity challenge. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Ferris was able to win the final immunity challenge and
Speaker 1: he made it to the Final two. Despite the pretty
Speaker 1: slow start to the final tribal Council, where his vague
Speaker 1: answers were met with a pretty cold reception from the jury,
Speaker 1: Ferris made a pretty impressive comeback with his confident advocacy
Speaker 1: for his game, and at that point he earned the
Speaker 1: jury's respect and unanimously was crowned the first soul survivor
Speaker 1: of Arab Descent. Today, on the podcast, Ferris will reveal
Speaker 1: for the first time who trained him for the current
Speaker 1: series and how the former survivor God actually helped him
Speaker 1: win the game. We will unpack Caroline's reaction to the
Speaker 1: unanimous vote against her and where that relationship is at now,
Speaker 1: with some insights into why Mark and Kitty surprisingly wrote
Speaker 1: his name down over their alliance with Caroline. I will
Speaker 1: find out who Ferris things deserves a do over from
Speaker 1: this season, and we will hear who he would like
Speaker 1: to play against if he ever returned. Plus, I will
Speaker 1: ask fan questions, including the backstory to Nathan's dodger jacket
Speaker 1: and the surprising place that much sought after item has
Speaker 1: actually ended up. There is so much to unpack today
Speaker 1: with Ferris, and I'm only teasing you with some of
Speaker 1: the stories that you're going to get to hear, So
Speaker 1: sit back and relax as we dive just that little
Speaker 1: bit deeper into the world of Australian survivor. Hey, Ferris,
Speaker 1: how are you mate?
Speaker 2: Hello? I love you. That's awesome man.
Speaker 1: Fully dressed up for you, mate.
Speaker 2: I love that which I put well, but he just thinks.
Speaker 1: Mine's actually a lot cleaner and I spray mime with
Speaker 1: whatever called after shave, So nothing like what you're used to.
Speaker 2: Definitely not. I wish out of the shave on the Island.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on winning this series. I'm so elated for you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm like so overwhelmed. I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm still dreaming. Didn't get a wink of sleep
Speaker 2: last night, so I'm just running off adrenaline. But yeah,
Speaker 2: couldn't be happier.
Speaker 1: You still look better now with no sleep than you
Speaker 1: did by the end of Survivor so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: When I looked in the mirror for the first time,
Speaker 2: I promise you, my first word was, do I look
Speaker 2: like it's on National TV? That's so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I actually think I feel bad, but I feel like
Speaker 1: you got hotter as the show went on.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so glad that there is that unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1: How emotional was it to watch the show last night,
Speaker 1: because I think if you're a true Fairest fan, you
Speaker 1: would have watched on social media last night that you
Speaker 1: had every friend and family member and survive a player
Speaker 1: basically with you to watch that.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Yeah, it was so emotional watching that
Speaker 2: last episode, and I think for everyone that watched it,
Speaker 2: you know last night, there weren't a lot of moments
Speaker 2: where you saw me cry, but I bored my eyes
Speaker 2: out in that last episode. Just reliving that moment. It
Speaker 2: was absolutely incredible, and I said to myself going in,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna crime National TV, but they go board eyes.
Speaker 2: I have like a little baby. But yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 2: be happy.
Speaker 1: Depending from Bendigo says that you're not batting above your average?
Speaker 1: How are you going with your social media? And everyone
Speaker 1: wants to know? Will you right back to everyone in
Speaker 1: some form at some point?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course I was. I think I was up
Speaker 2: to well before turning off my phone. I was up
Speaker 2: to like three am replying to everyone. I made sure
Speaker 2: that I'm replying to every single person that has supported me,
Speaker 2: because it is the absolute least I can do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm definitely getting back to every single person that does
Speaker 2: support me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a monumental win. That's the way that I'm
Speaker 1: describing it. And there's so much for you to be
Speaker 1: proud of. In the words that you used in that finale,
Speaker 1: I think you could do with a Kleenex sponsorship right now,
Speaker 1: because anyone who watched that show had is you know.
Speaker 1: I just want to say though, that whilst you you
Speaker 1: did so well, did you get help before taking part
Speaker 1: of the show with your application. Did you get any
Speaker 1: help from any survivor gods before doing so?
Speaker 2: When I applied and I got my first Zoom interview
Speaker 2: and I had a chat over the phone off that like,
Speaker 2: it's a very lengthy process until the last stage where
Speaker 2: it was the audition process, and I message King George.
Speaker 2: I was like, George, I don't know if you're going
Speaker 2: to reply to me or not, but I am in
Speaker 2: the last stages of the audition and I could possibly
Speaker 2: be on the show. I need any bit of advice
Speaker 2: he can give me. And he was so humble and
Speaker 2: nice to be able to meet up with me and
Speaker 2: then gave me a bit of advice going onto the
Speaker 2: show and pretty much how to audition properly. And it
Speaker 2: definitely worked. And again it's nothing, it was nothing out
Speaker 2: of the ordinary, but it was really solid advice that
Speaker 2: I needed to hear at that time, and to be
Speaker 2: reassured by someone like King George was absolutely amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all credit to it, and.
Speaker 1: What length can we get like a little teaste, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's all very well and good to say
Speaker 1: that you sat down with someone like King George and
Speaker 1: they Jedi mastered you. But It all comes down in
Speaker 1: the proof of the pudding as to whether or not
Speaker 1: he told you anything that worked. So what did you
Speaker 1: use that King George taught you to help you win
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, the advice the first time around that he
Speaker 2: gave me was purely about the audition, and he outlined
Speaker 2: three factors as to why they would possibly be interested
Speaker 2: in me his work. It's not mine. He said, your Arab,
Speaker 2: you're hot, and you're funny. They love that, they love it.
Speaker 2: Just embrace that in the audition and it was really
Speaker 2: really nice. It was hilarious. But going onto the show,
Speaker 2: his word of advice was literally, you have an idol,
Speaker 2: keep it to yourself. Just keep it to yourself unless
Speaker 2: you need, unless it's saving someone really really close to
Speaker 2: you towards the end, keep it for yourself. And that
Speaker 2: was amazing advice that I honestly didn't think that I
Speaker 2: would go into the show holding an idol and being
Speaker 2: that selfish. Unfortunately for the others, the fallen Soldiers like gart.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he definitely gave me a bit of advice
Speaker 2: that really really helped. And it was not so much
Speaker 2: it was less about his advice. Watching his gameplay, I
Speaker 2: saw who he aligned with the type of people he
Speaker 2: aligned with, and I made sure I wasn't going to
Speaker 2: be that alpha male guy that just aligned with a
Speaker 2: bunch of you know, big boys. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: play like that. I wanted to play pretty much similar
Speaker 2: to how George did in terms of his alliance. At
Speaker 2: the end of working props to it.
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's any animosity now from George
Speaker 1: because you were able to do something that he was
Speaker 1: never able to do. And if I know George the
Speaker 1: way that I know George, and I'm assuming you do too,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there is going to be a quiet
Speaker 1: moment for that man alone, a.
Speaker 2: Little tears come out. He's a way better person than
Speaker 2: I am. He honestly has been so supportive with everything,
Speaker 2: and I think, if anything, he feels more like, you know,
Speaker 2: a proud friend than a proud coach, if you will,
Speaker 2: for someone from Assy need to be representing. So I
Speaker 2: think he's really really happy for me. He won't be
Speaker 2: that time to be upset. But look, George, he knows
Speaker 2: he's the greatest. We all lose. He knows he's a
Speaker 2: legend of the game, and we don't need to boost
Speaker 2: his ego anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I trust a man that can cope with
Speaker 1: the conditions of survivor from the person who was trained
Speaker 1: by King George, because that's some kind of free game
Speaker 1: torture right there. I'm picturing George. You're waking up at
Speaker 1: nighttime and George is in bed with you and your
Speaker 1: and your wife, and he's he's ranting at you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he was. He was really lovely. He
Speaker 2: gave his advice.
Speaker 1: So yeah, props to well the jury all voting for
Speaker 1: you was absolutely spectacular. Do we know why Mark and
Speaker 1: Kitty in particular voted for you and not Caroline?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it was explained pretty well.
Speaker 2: You know in the episode yesterday, I knew Kitty. I
Speaker 2: was really surprised by Kitty's vote, but I think it
Speaker 2: just came down to for her at least, she said,
Speaker 2: you know what, there's you. I feel like you could
Speaker 2: do a lot more with the money, and I feel
Speaker 2: like you'd be a deserving player. So all props to her.
Speaker 2: I really appreciated that from from Kitty and Mark. I
Speaker 2: think the thing that got him the most was the
Speaker 2: idol play, which thankfully here is and he loved and Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm so thankful that I got all nine votes.
Speaker 1: You might arguably be the most deserving of that money
Speaker 1: when it came in terms to you and Caroline and
Speaker 1: who might have needed that money. Do you think though
Speaker 1: the Castaways in that jury council think about wealth as
Speaker 1: a priority.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a priority, but I think it's
Speaker 2: a factor. I think when there is you know, for
Speaker 2: some people where they don't know what to do, where
Speaker 2: they are torn between two people, whether it be two
Speaker 2: amazing players or two players that they don't know their
Speaker 2: game much. If they're ever torn, I think it will
Speaker 2: come down to a small decision like that, which again
Speaker 2: is fair enough each to their own and how they
Speaker 2: want to vote, And if some people can't make up
Speaker 2: their minds, I think factors like that. Yeah, he definitely
Speaker 2: does influence them.
Speaker 1: What did you learn after the game that really surprised you?
Speaker 1: Because once you took the buffs off and you could
Speaker 1: be yourselves. I just want to know whether or not
Speaker 1: your relationships with the Castaways changed? Were people different once
Speaker 1: you removed the competition side out of your interaction and
Speaker 1: your relationship with them?
Speaker 2: Look, everyone on the album was so lovely to me,
Speaker 2: and that hasn't changed at all outside of the game either.
Speaker 2: I am so close with so many of the people
Speaker 2: in the cast. They have been, you know, the most
Speaker 2: amazing people to make a season with, so throughout the
Speaker 2: entire time, no matter what we saw on TV or
Speaker 2: how aggressive the game might have seen, there was always
Speaker 2: a level of respect with each other. And I think
Speaker 2: that's what our hold dealing the most. And you know,
Speaker 2: outside of the game, it's the exact same thing. I've
Speaker 2: had so many of the cast members come over, Race
Speaker 2: slept over in my house a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: Alex came and visited me. I think there's just a
Speaker 2: level of respect that we all share for each other
Speaker 2: for having this shared experience.
Speaker 1: You know, Eileen and Kirby were really instrumental in your win,
Speaker 1: and while they could take credit in some ways, I
Speaker 1: think that we can see that they respected your game.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you could have one without those
Speaker 1: two girls.
Speaker 2: Look, they were one hundred percent so instrumental to those both,
Speaker 2: you know, Eileen being the mayors of the jury and
Speaker 2: Kirby disrespecting gameplay was a huge factor. I do think
Speaker 2: it would be a bit more difficult for me to
Speaker 2: explain to the others only because I met most of
Speaker 2: them after merg and they didn't see a lot of
Speaker 2: my moves, so it was a lot harder to explain
Speaker 2: or even validate a lot of my moves if I
Speaker 2: didn't have people like Eileen and Kirby. I still think
Speaker 2: I could have taken out the win regardless, but they
Speaker 2: definitely had a huge influence, which I'm so grateful for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love both of those women. I'm like mildly obsessed.
Speaker 1: I think that they worry me too. I'm really drawn
Speaker 1: to genuine people. Are there's something very genuine about these women,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So right?
Speaker 1: And I think you are too, because I really watched
Speaker 1: your game, and I think that you really respect or
Speaker 1: respond to strong women. I don't know where that. I
Speaker 1: don't know where that comes from, but that, to me,
Speaker 1: I think was all also so much a part of
Speaker 1: the way in which there's an enormous amount of respect
Speaker 1: for your gameplay throughout the fandom.
Speaker 2: You know what now that you mention it your spot on. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I've grown up with women my entire life. I have
Speaker 2: two older sisters. They're both very strong women, very intelligent.
Speaker 2: Boss ladies, and I love that, and I think it
Speaker 2: was just second nature to me, you know, to be
Speaker 2: drawn two powerful women in more of a sisterly sense,
Speaker 2: Like I love the fact that, you know, Kirby played
Speaker 2: her game and she was her own boss, and I
Speaker 2: lean the same thing, and I really respect that these times,
Speaker 2: a lot of times people underestimate backgrounds, personalities and gender
Speaker 2: as well, and that definitely wasn't the case with me.
Speaker 2: I was terrified of Kirby and I love her for that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, both amazing women. They both deserve, you know,
Speaker 2: a huge, huge kudos to that.
Speaker 1: All from Australian Survivor Fans, which is a group on
Speaker 1: Facebook wants to know what happened to Nathan's dodger jack.
Speaker 2: I could write a book about this jacket.
Speaker 1: I've heard what the hell's going on? What's the backstory
Speaker 1: to this fucking jacket?
Speaker 2: Mate? Like everyone, you know what, it's even more backstory
Speaker 2: that I wish I could just like steal everything, give.
Speaker 1: Us a taste, because that's a podcast in itself, Nathan's
Speaker 1: Dodger Jacket.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's funny was Raymond actually wanted the jacket
Speaker 2: in the end, so right before his vote, off. He
Speaker 2: was so obsessed the fact that this jacket was the
Speaker 2: cause of so much arguments and he loves you silly
Speaker 2: things like that. So when he got voted off, I
Speaker 2: actually took off my jacket and I gave it to him,
Speaker 2: and then yeah, I was going to give it to him,
Speaker 2: and then Caroline pretty much said, look, I need that
Speaker 2: to sleep and I'll give it to you after eight
Speaker 2: I'm like, of course, you know, so I got it
Speaker 2: to Caroline. In the end, I think I actually think
Speaker 2: the jacket's still on the island. No, yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: It's such a sad editing to such an important part
Speaker 3: of the game.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing like an Indiana Jones and the Crusade where
Speaker 1: they're looking for the you know, the what if it
Speaker 1: called that cup is? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: the fans are going to go back to the island.
Speaker 2: You know, how good would it be if there was
Speaker 2: an All Star season and it starts off with the
Speaker 2: jacket being on the island, all dirty and stuff, and
Speaker 2: then someone puts it off. That would be incredible. I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: That's a really good question that you say this, because look,
Speaker 1: the fans have been talking about it there's some serious
Speaker 1: rumors going around about the possibility of the next season
Speaker 1: having some returning players, and your name is there, Kirby's
Speaker 1: name is there, Raymond's name is there, Elaine's name is there.
Speaker 1: There's some people. But I want to know, from your perspective,
Speaker 1: who's the most deserving of a do over when it
Speaker 1: comes to the possibility of someone returning.
Speaker 2: Ah, Kirby. I think I think Kirby definitely deserves another shot.
Speaker 2: I feel so responsible for what happens, so I think
Speaker 2: it would be an injustice not to see Kirby play
Speaker 2: a second time, honestly, And adding on to that, people
Speaker 2: like Garrick Eileen, we didn't get to see, you know,
Speaker 2: so much more of their game in their personality, so
Speaker 2: they definitely need another short two showcase start to all
Speaker 2: of Australia. We got a bit of a taste for
Speaker 2: it and we loved it, and he wanted to see
Speaker 2: it the second time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And I was going to talk about this
Speaker 1: thing because this is an anomaly in reality television. Mark
Speaker 1: winning that Azuzu continues the theory that in reality television,
Speaker 1: if you win a car, you will not you will
Speaker 1: not win the show. Hashtag Raymond's obsession with the is.
Speaker 2: You know about who knows about that? Who knows about that?
Speaker 2: Oh that's a really inside information. I love it. I
Speaker 2: love making that research. But yeah, look, I think it
Speaker 2: was the only thing that was getting me through losing
Speaker 2: that car I was like, damn, I lost the car,
Speaker 2: but hey, I could possibly win it. Mike's definitely not
Speaker 2: winning because of your skirts. So amazing, you have not
Speaker 2: won the show.
Speaker 1: To stamp and send.
Speaker 2: That exactly right. We guess we have.
Speaker 1: To touch on this because it's an important part of
Speaker 1: the finale, and it's also important in the fact that
Speaker 1: there's an enormous amount of respect for Caroline for getting
Speaker 1: towards the end. What has her reaction been to the
Speaker 1: unanimous vote? How did that play out? And how is
Speaker 1: that still playing out?
Speaker 2: Look, Caroline is such an amazing human. She was so
Speaker 2: so humble with everything. She was so gracious and like
Speaker 2: such a classy woman. She you know, gave me so
Speaker 2: much props to my win, and yeah, look, I'm so
Speaker 2: happy I got to sit next to her at the end.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think she knew how much I wanted this,
Speaker 2: and I think it was the motherly instincts in her
Speaker 2: just to just be proud and happy for me. And
Speaker 2: I'm so appreciative for someone like Caroline to be sitting
Speaker 2: next to at the end.
Speaker 1: Another question from one of the for this was from Twitter,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't read this guy's name, probably, But who
Speaker 1: would you like to challenge if you were to return?
Speaker 1: Would you like to now? I think we will call
Speaker 1: George your Jedi master with that, But like, who do
Speaker 1: you who would you love to go back and challenge?
Speaker 1: If we're looking at the fi the gods, and we've
Speaker 1: got Luke Toki, We've got David Ginnette, We've got some
Speaker 1: amazing people there. Who would you like to go up against?
Speaker 2: I need to prove my sisters wrong because they're obsessed
Speaker 2: with David. They loved his gameplay and they kept saying,
Speaker 2: watch him, watch him before we go into survivment. Make
Speaker 2: sure we watch his game. So I would love to
Speaker 2: go up against to David. Look nothing but respect for
Speaker 2: the man who's played an amazing game. So I would
Speaker 2: love to test my skills on someone like David Luke.
Speaker 2: I see myself more in an alliance with it than anything.
Speaker 2: He seems like such a personal guy, and I think
Speaker 2: I can relate to him on twny different levels, and
Speaker 2: I think we would just click instantly. So I would
Speaker 2: go up against David and be the wedge between Luke
Speaker 2: and David and bring Luke over to my side.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of picturing halfway through the season that either
Speaker 1: George or you like some kind of Jedi relationship or
Speaker 1: you have to try and take the other one down.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I'm just putting some of
Speaker 1: Raymond's popcorn on right now just because that kind of
Speaker 1: fantasy of you going up against George is that.
Speaker 2: Would be more that would be amazing to watch, and
Speaker 2: you know, like forget about strategy. It would just be
Speaker 2: amazing to watch us go back and forth that tribal co. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I Kim talking crap and me just reading through all
Speaker 2: his baoll crap would be amazing.
Speaker 1: I'll call Eden now and see if we can book
Speaker 1: a full cinema for that. But Dayden find a cinema
Speaker 1: because we need to watch that. Everyone who's joined the podcast,
Speaker 1: I've been asking them this question, something that you learned
Speaker 1: from playing this game? Can you put in a sentence
Speaker 1: in the Game of Australian Survivor.
Speaker 2: In the Game of Australian survivor. I've learned to believe
Speaker 2: more in myself. Going into the game, I honestly didn't
Speaker 2: even think about winning my entire life. I don't put
Speaker 2: much belief in myself, and after the whole journey, I've
Speaker 2: learned I need to back myself so much more than
Speaker 2: what I already do. So Yeah, just having the utmost
Speaker 2: belief in your abilities and how capable you are, regardless
Speaker 2: of what it is doing, is so so.
Speaker 1: Important, And everyone who joins the podcast gets asked this
Speaker 1: question from all different TV shows. Yes, what if something
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes, something of kind of like a
Speaker 1: behind the scenes secret from your time on the show?
Speaker 1: Of course, we know that the show gets sort of
Speaker 1: filmed over like a seventy two hour period and we
Speaker 1: only get to see about an hour and twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: so there's an enormous amount that we don't get to see.
Speaker 1: Is there a fun story on an anecdotal of.
Speaker 2: Course there is.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: I could go on and on all day, but I
Speaker 2: will mention one thing that I wish, you know, we
Speaker 2: actually went through with it, but he probably won't be
Speaker 2: on air. Regardless. Me and Ray one night were sitting
Speaker 2: underneath the shelter while everyone will sleeping and we're laughing
Speaker 2: at the idea and possibly pranking everyone, and we came
Speaker 2: up with all these scenarios what we could possibly do.
Speaker 2: One scenario would be to put just a bit of
Speaker 2: salt water and everybody who's some bottles just so they
Speaker 2: dehydrated for the next challenge, or because it was raining
Speaker 2: so much every single day, to poke holes in the
Speaker 2: top on like people except for us, So we'll just
Speaker 2: constantly rain on people.
Speaker 1: And he wants to leave confirmation that you two are assholes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we loved so much about it, and we loved
Speaker 3: the idea of it, but then we thought, you know what,
Speaker 3: let's just play the game. We don't want to get
Speaker 3: in any more trouble than we already have because we've
Speaker 3: got in so much trouble.
Speaker 1: Can I just say I felt so emotional watching you
Speaker 1: throughout this entire series. I remember before I did Big Brother,
Speaker 1: they said to me that a gay person couldn't win
Speaker 1: a reality show like that, and I could hear it
Speaker 1: in your voice about being an Australian Muslim Man and
Speaker 1: being able to take this show, and I can see
Speaker 1: how much that means to you. You've achieved something that
Speaker 1: is I'm emotional talking about it with you now, and
Speaker 1: I just I just think, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: doing that, and.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I although I'm so proud of winning,
Speaker 2: I am most proud of how I represented myself, Mike, community,
Speaker 2: my faith. Whatever it may be. The fact that people
Speaker 2: got to see me pray on National TV is I
Speaker 2: kind of explain to you how monumental that is for
Speaker 2: my community. I know that that's something my community is
Speaker 2: going to be talking about for so long. It was
Speaker 2: so important for people around Australia for once to see
Speaker 2: a Middle Eastern man, a Muslim man on TV for
Speaker 2: a positive light, not in a negative light. And you know,
Speaker 2: to be that fun character, to be loyal, to be trustworthy,
Speaker 2: to be funny, to be one of the characters that's
Speaker 2: always smiling. Was so important for me to show people
Speaker 2: that don't judge a book boats cover. It's so humbling
Speaker 2: to see people all walks of life message me that
Speaker 2: aren't Mulsom, that aren't parried, and they've said they cried
Speaker 2: watching me pray on TV and it just makes you know,
Speaker 2: Australia the greatest country in the world to have so
Speaker 2: much support, regardless of what background you're coming from over
Speaker 2: this one moment is yeah, it's so humbly Yeah, I
Speaker 2: kindly begin to explain. I could speak for an hour
Speaker 2: about just this one topic.
Speaker 1: Give you some categories on your own podcast conversation.
Speaker 2: Yes, please, yes please.
Speaker 1: That is definitely one mate. Just really enjoy this moment.
Speaker 1: Enjoy chatting to the media. I know that there's so
Speaker 1: many people out there looking forward to talking to you
Speaker 1: today and you sharing your story, and like them, I'm
Speaker 1: in your audience and I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: you do next.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ben, I really really appreciate time.
Speaker 2: By the way, I loved you and big brother. I
Speaker 2: used to watch you like back in the days. I
Speaker 2: was absolutely upset. So this is completely legendary, right, I
Speaker 2: really appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Bizarre to you even hear that, biz, I have to
Speaker 1: let you go. But enjoy chatting to everyone, and thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope in the universe somehow that I get to
Speaker 1: have a drink with you.
Speaker 2: At some point, and one hundred percent I would love that.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, amazing, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Okay, chat to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you