WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR - WINNERS CHAT 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.720 TV Reload the podcast last week that line, Hey guys, 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.960 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.920 for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with the winner 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.879 of Australian Survivor, Ferris, who is here to share his 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.600 story and man alive. Are you all in for a 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.640 treat today? Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels was a showdown 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.000 that pitted the winners against the underdogs and the big 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.360 wigs against the battlers, with an emotional outcome seeing an 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.479 original rebel walking away with a grand prize of half 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.280 a million dollars. Before I go on, I would love 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.560 to acknowledge Mark and Caroline who both did so well 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.080 and kudos to them for their ability to survive on 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.879 the island of Samoa for forty seven days. Ferris from Sydney, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.040 New South Wales was fearfully loyal to his allies. He 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.320 played a confidence social game that allowed him to recover 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.160 at times from a few blunders that almost Say's game 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.280 end a couple of times throughout the series, most noticeably 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.240 during the Tribe Switch, where his back was totally up 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.640 against a wall. After the game's merge, Ferris settled into 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.320 a cupfortable position and was rarely targeted despite having a 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.560 public but yet hidden immunity idol at that point of 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.679 the game. His decision to align with Kirby created a 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.200 formidable duo that brought both of them success and subsequently 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.280 afforded him a guaranteed path to the Final two. However, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.520 when Kirby lost immunity at the Final five, Ferris took 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.800 a big risk dispensing of her and came super close 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.280 to being eliminated himself when he lost the next immunity challenge. Ultimately, 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.840 Ferris was able to win the final immunity challenge and 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.919 he made it to the Final two. Despite the pretty 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.200 slow start to the final tribal Council, where his vague 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.080 answers were met with a pretty cold reception from the jury, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.440 Ferris made a pretty impressive comeback with his confident advocacy 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.960 for his game, and at that point he earned the 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.440 jury's respect and unanimously was crowned the first soul survivor 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.000 of Arab Descent. Today, on the podcast, Ferris will reveal 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.320 for the first time who trained him for the current 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.040 series and how the former survivor God actually helped him 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.040 win the game. We will unpack Caroline's reaction to the 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.080 unanimous vote against her and where that relationship is at now, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.880 with some insights into why Mark and Kitty surprisingly wrote 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.399 his name down over their alliance with Caroline. I will 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.280 find out who Ferris things deserves a do over from 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.799 this season, and we will hear who he would like 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.840 to play against if he ever returned. Plus, I will 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.120 ask fan questions, including the backstory to Nathan's dodger jacket 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.520 and the surprising place that much sought after item has 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.440 actually ended up. There is so much to unpack today 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.040 with Ferris, and I'm only teasing you with some of 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.000 the stories that you're going to get to hear, So 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.920 sit back and relax as we dive just that little 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.400 bit deeper into the world of Australian survivor. Hey, Ferris, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:49.280 how are you mate? 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.160 Hello? I love you. That's awesome man. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.600 Fully dressed up for you, mate. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.280 I love that which I put well, but he just thinks. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.720 Mine's actually a lot cleaner and I spray mime with 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.680 whatever called after shave, So nothing like what you're used to. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.239 Definitely not. I wish out of the shave on the Island. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:12.120 Well, congratulations on winning this series. I'm so elated for you. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.120 Thank you so much. I'm like so overwhelmed. I feel 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.720 like I'm still dreaming. Didn't get a wink of sleep 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.919 last night, so I'm just running off adrenaline. But yeah, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.880 couldn't be happier. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.880 You still look better now with no sleep than you 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.200 did by the end of Survivor so embarrassing. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.959 When I looked in the mirror for the first time, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.839 I promise you, my first word was, do I look 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.720 like it's on National TV? That's so embarrassed. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.960 I actually think I feel bad, but I feel like 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.520 you got hotter as the show went on. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.600 Thank you. I'm so glad that there is that unpopular opinion. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.680 How emotional was it to watch the show last night, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.640 because I think if you're a true Fairest fan, you 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.200 would have watched on social media last night that you 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.040 had every friend and family member and survive a player 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.080 basically with you to watch that. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.080 Yeah it was. Yeah, it was so emotional watching that 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.320 last episode, and I think for everyone that watched it, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.400 you know last night, there weren't a lot of moments 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.279 where you saw me cry, but I bored my eyes 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.680 out in that last episode. Just reliving that moment. It 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.240 was absolutely incredible, and I said to myself going in, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.680 I'm not gonna crime National TV, but they go board eyes. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.840 I have like a little baby. But yeah, I couldn't 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:30.160 be happy. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:35.480 Depending from Bendigo says that you're not batting above your average? 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.480 How are you going with your social media? And everyone 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.280 wants to know? Will you right back to everyone in 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:44.679 some form at some point? 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.440 Yes, of course I was. I think I was up 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.560 to well before turning off my phone. I was up 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.479 to like three am replying to everyone. I made sure 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.120 that I'm replying to every single person that has supported me, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.880 because it is the absolute least I can do. Yeah, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.800 I'm definitely getting back to every single person that does 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:03.279 support me. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.159 Well, it's a monumental win. That's the way that I'm 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.159 describing it. And there's so much for you to be 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.560 proud of. In the words that you used in that finale, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.719 I think you could do with a Kleenex sponsorship right now, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.359 because anyone who watched that show had is you know. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.560 I just want to say though, that whilst you you 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.440 did so well, did you get help before taking part 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.560 of the show with your application. Did you get any 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:34.040 help from any survivor gods before doing so? 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:40.640 When I applied and I got my first Zoom interview 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.800 and I had a chat over the phone off that like, 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.520 it's a very lengthy process until the last stage where 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.720 it was the audition process, and I message King George. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.960 I was like, George, I don't know if you're going 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.359 to reply to me or not, but I am in 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.480 the last stages of the audition and I could possibly 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.920 be on the show. I need any bit of advice 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.520 he can give me. And he was so humble and 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.880 nice to be able to meet up with me and 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.760 then gave me a bit of advice going onto the 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.080 show and pretty much how to audition properly. And it 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.240 definitely worked. And again it's nothing, it was nothing out 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.279 of the ordinary, but it was really solid advice that 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.039 I needed to hear at that time, and to be 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.800 reassured by someone like King George was absolutely amazing. Yeah, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.960 all credit to it, and. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.719 What length can we get like a little teaste, because 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.440 you know, it's all very well and good to say 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.960 that you sat down with someone like King George and 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.440 they Jedi mastered you. But It all comes down in 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.240 the proof of the pudding as to whether or not 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.719 he told you anything that worked. So what did you 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.000 use that King George taught you to help you win 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:45.360 the show? 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:50.359 Okay, Look, the advice the first time around that he 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.640 gave me was purely about the audition, and he outlined 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.880 three factors as to why they would possibly be interested 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.080 in me his work. It's not mine. He said, your Arab, 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.600 you're hot, and you're funny. They love that, they love it. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.960 Just embrace that in the audition and it was really 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.679 really nice. It was hilarious. But going onto the show, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.680 his word of advice was literally, you have an idol, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.560 keep it to yourself. Just keep it to yourself unless 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.080 you need, unless it's saving someone really really close to 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.400 you towards the end, keep it for yourself. And that 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.280 was amazing advice that I honestly didn't think that I 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.520 would go into the show holding an idol and being 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:36.360 that selfish. Unfortunately for the others, the fallen Soldiers like gart. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.200 But yeah, he definitely gave me a bit of advice 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.440 that really really helped. And it was not so much 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.640 it was less about his advice. Watching his gameplay, I 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.720 saw who he aligned with the type of people he 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.440 aligned with, and I made sure I wasn't going to 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.120 be that alpha male guy that just aligned with a 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.400 bunch of you know, big boys. I didn't want to 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.559 play like that. I wanted to play pretty much similar 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.600 to how George did in terms of his alliance. At 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.120 the end of working props to it. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.440 Do you think that there's any animosity now from George 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.960 because you were able to do something that he was 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.680 never able to do. And if I know George the 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.520 way that I know George, and I'm assuming you do too, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.400 I'm sure that there is going to be a quiet 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.880 moment for that man alone, a. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:26.480 Little tears come out. He's a way better person than 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.080 I am. He honestly has been so supportive with everything, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.200 and I think, if anything, he feels more like, you know, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.280 a proud friend than a proud coach, if you will, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.960 for someone from Assy need to be representing. So I 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.920 think he's really really happy for me. He won't be 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:46.000 that time to be upset. But look, George, he knows 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.640 he's the greatest. We all lose. He knows he's a 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.640 legend of the game, and we don't need to boost 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:51.520 his ego anymore. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.080 Well, look, I trust a man that can cope with 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.600 the conditions of survivor from the person who was trained 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.800 by King George, because that's some kind of free game 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:06.840 torture right there. I'm picturing George. You're waking up at 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.000 nighttime and George is in bed with you and your 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:13.520 and your wife, and he's he's ranting at you. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.480 Oh my god, he was. He was really lovely. He 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:19.400 gave his advice. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.000 So yeah, props to well the jury all voting for 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.600 you was absolutely spectacular. Do we know why Mark and 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.720 Kitty in particular voted for you and not Caroline? 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:35.040 Yeah, I think I think it was explained pretty well. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.000 You know in the episode yesterday, I knew Kitty. I 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.520 was really surprised by Kitty's vote, but I think it 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.559 just came down to for her at least, she said, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.960 you know what, there's you. I feel like you could 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.520 do a lot more with the money, and I feel 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.000 like you'd be a deserving player. So all props to her. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.080 I really appreciated that from from Kitty and Mark. I 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.280 think the thing that got him the most was the 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.840 idol play, which thankfully here is and he loved and Yeah, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.120 I'm so thankful that I got all nine votes. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.240 You might arguably be the most deserving of that money 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.840 when it came in terms to you and Caroline and 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.280 who might have needed that money. Do you think though 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.360 the Castaways in that jury council think about wealth as 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.000 a priority. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.120 I don't think it's a priority, but I think it's 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.280 a factor. I think when there is you know, for 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.000 some people where they don't know what to do, where 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.160 they are torn between two people, whether it be two 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.320 amazing players or two players that they don't know their 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.960 game much. If they're ever torn, I think it will 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.800 come down to a small decision like that, which again 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.200 is fair enough each to their own and how they 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.720 want to vote, And if some people can't make up 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.760 their minds, I think factors like that. Yeah, he definitely 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:47.840 does influence them. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.800 What did you learn after the game that really surprised you? 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.400 Because once you took the buffs off and you could 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.880 be yourselves. I just want to know whether or not 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.480 your relationships with the Castaways changed? Were people different once 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.280 you removed the competition side out of your interaction and 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:05.360 your relationship with them? 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.840 Look, everyone on the album was so lovely to me, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.480 and that hasn't changed at all outside of the game either. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.400 I am so close with so many of the people 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.920 in the cast. They have been, you know, the most 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.440 amazing people to make a season with, so throughout the 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.320 entire time, no matter what we saw on TV or 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.440 how aggressive the game might have seen, there was always 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.640 a level of respect with each other. And I think 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.720 that's what our hold dealing the most. And you know, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.360 outside of the game, it's the exact same thing. I've 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.760 had so many of the cast members come over, Race 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.520 slept over in my house a couple of days ago, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.240 Alex came and visited me. I think there's just a 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.400 level of respect that we all share for each other 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.239 for having this shared experience. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.320 You know, Eileen and Kirby were really instrumental in your win, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.280 and while they could take credit in some ways, I 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.960 think that we can see that they respected your game. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.560 Do you think that you could have one without those 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.400 two girls. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.640 Look, they were one hundred percent so instrumental to those both, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.040 you know, Eileen being the mayors of the jury and 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.920 Kirby disrespecting gameplay was a huge factor. I do think 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.320 it would be a bit more difficult for me to 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.680 explain to the others only because I met most of 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.040 them after merg and they didn't see a lot of 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.720 my moves, so it was a lot harder to explain 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.280 or even validate a lot of my moves if I 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.360 didn't have people like Eileen and Kirby. I still think 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.480 I could have taken out the win regardless, but they 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.520 definitely had a huge influence, which I'm so grateful for. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.440 Yeah, I love both of those women. I'm like mildly obsessed. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.280 I think that they worry me too. I'm really drawn 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.680 to genuine people. Are there's something very genuine about these women, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:48.360 you know what I mean? 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:49.120 So right? 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.360 And I think you are too, because I really watched 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.520 your game, and I think that you really respect or 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.040 respond to strong women. I don't know where that. I 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.120 don't know where that comes from, but that, to me, 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.560 I think was all also so much a part of 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.240 the way in which there's an enormous amount of respect 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.480 for your gameplay throughout the fandom. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.640 You know what now that you mention it your spot on. Honestly, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.360 I've grown up with women my entire life. I have 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.239 two older sisters. They're both very strong women, very intelligent. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.040 Boss ladies, and I love that, and I think it 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.560 was just second nature to me, you know, to be 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.520 drawn two powerful women in more of a sisterly sense, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.120 Like I love the fact that, you know, Kirby played 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.079 her game and she was her own boss, and I 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.440 lean the same thing, and I really respect that these times, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.680 a lot of times people underestimate backgrounds, personalities and gender 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.800 as well, and that definitely wasn't the case with me. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.040 I was terrified of Kirby and I love her for that. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.920 So yeah, both amazing women. They both deserve, you know, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.240 a huge, huge kudos to that. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.760 All from Australian Survivor Fans, which is a group on 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.959 Facebook wants to know what happened to Nathan's dodger jack. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.480 I could write a book about this jacket. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.600 I've heard what the hell's going on? What's the backstory 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:07.920 to this fucking jacket? 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.640 Mate? Like everyone, you know what, it's even more backstory 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.760 that I wish I could just like steal everything, give. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.360 Us a taste, because that's a podcast in itself, Nathan's 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:18.160 Dodger Jacket. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:23.280 Yeah. So what's funny was Raymond actually wanted the jacket 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.840 in the end, so right before his vote, off. He 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.200 was so obsessed the fact that this jacket was the 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.080 cause of so much arguments and he loves you silly 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.920 things like that. So when he got voted off, I 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.560 actually took off my jacket and I gave it to him, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.720 and then yeah, I was going to give it to him, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.400 and then Caroline pretty much said, look, I need that 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.600 to sleep and I'll give it to you after eight 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.120 I'm like, of course, you know, so I got it 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.400 to Caroline. In the end, I think I actually think 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:53.000 the jacket's still on the island. No, yeah, yeah, I know. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.520 It's such a sad editing to such an important part 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:57.120 of the game. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.880 I'm picturing like an Indiana Jones and the Crusade where 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.960 they're looking for the you know, the what if it 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.920 called that cup is? You know what I mean? Like 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.120 the fans are going to go back to the island. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.560 You know, how good would it be if there was 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.040 an All Star season and it starts off with the 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.520 jacket being on the island, all dirty and stuff, and 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.160 then someone puts it off. That would be incredible. I 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.000 love that. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.240 That's a really good question that you say this, because look, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.880 the fans have been talking about it there's some serious 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.240 rumors going around about the possibility of the next season 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.920 having some returning players, and your name is there, Kirby's 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.320 name is there, Raymond's name is there, Elaine's name is there. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.800 There's some people. But I want to know, from your perspective, 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.520 who's the most deserving of a do over when it 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.640 comes to the possibility of someone returning. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.880 Ah, Kirby. I think I think Kirby definitely deserves another shot. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.600 I feel so responsible for what happens, so I think 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.200 it would be an injustice not to see Kirby play 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.680 a second time, honestly, And adding on to that, people 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.960 like Garrick Eileen, we didn't get to see, you know, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.880 so much more of their game in their personality, so 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.520 they definitely need another short two showcase start to all 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.680 of Australia. We got a bit of a taste for 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.720 it and we loved it, and he wanted to see 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:10.520 it the second time. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.720 So yeah, And I was going to talk about this 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.840 thing because this is an anomaly in reality television. Mark 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.040 winning that Azuzu continues the theory that in reality television, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.880 if you win a car, you will not you will 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:27.840 not win the show. Hashtag Raymond's obsession with the is. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.200 You know about who knows about that? Who knows about that? 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.840 Oh that's a really inside information. I love it. I 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840 love making that research. But yeah, look, I think it 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.200 was the only thing that was getting me through losing 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.400 that car I was like, damn, I lost the car, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.960 but hey, I could possibly win it. Mike's definitely not 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.480 winning because of your skirts. So amazing, you have not 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.120 won the show. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.119 To stamp and send. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.600 That exactly right. We guess we have. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.440 To touch on this because it's an important part of 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.040 the finale, and it's also important in the fact that 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.440 there's an enormous amount of respect for Caroline for getting 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.439 towards the end. What has her reaction been to the 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.560 unanimous vote? How did that play out? And how is 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.679 that still playing out? 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:17.680 Look, Caroline is such an amazing human. She was so 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.119 so humble with everything. She was so gracious and like 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.199 such a classy woman. She you know, gave me so 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.800 much props to my win, and yeah, look, I'm so 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.720 happy I got to sit next to her at the end. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.359 But yeah, I think she knew how much I wanted this, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.920 and I think it was the motherly instincts in her 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.600 just to just be proud and happy for me. And 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.280 I'm so appreciative for someone like Caroline to be sitting 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:42.000 next to at the end. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.119 Another question from one of the for this was from Twitter, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.520 and I couldn't read this guy's name, probably, But who 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.080 would you like to challenge if you were to return? 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.720 Would you like to now? I think we will call 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.520 George your Jedi master with that, But like, who do 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.080 you who would you love to go back and challenge? 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.880 If we're looking at the fi the gods, and we've 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.600 got Luke Toki, We've got David Ginnette, We've got some 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.880 amazing people there. Who would you like to go up against? 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.920 I need to prove my sisters wrong because they're obsessed 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.960 with David. They loved his gameplay and they kept saying, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.280 watch him, watch him before we go into survivment. Make 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.240 sure we watch his game. So I would love to 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.440 go up against to David. Look nothing but respect for 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.040 the man who's played an amazing game. So I would 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.000 love to test my skills on someone like David Luke. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.240 I see myself more in an alliance with it than anything. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.400 He seems like such a personal guy, and I think 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.040 I can relate to him on twny different levels, and 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.840 I think we would just click instantly. So I would 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.200 go up against David and be the wedge between Luke 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.640 and David and bring Luke over to my side. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.760 I'm kind of picturing halfway through the season that either 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.800 George or you like some kind of Jedi relationship or 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.760 you have to try and take the other one down. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.919 And I'll tell you what, I'm just putting some of 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.800 Raymond's popcorn on right now just because that kind of 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.320 fantasy of you going up against George is that. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.679 Would be more that would be amazing to watch, and 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.560 you know, like forget about strategy. It would just be 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.040 amazing to watch us go back and forth that tribal co. Yeah, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.520 I Kim talking crap and me just reading through all 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.000 his baoll crap would be amazing. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.400 I'll call Eden now and see if we can book 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.840 a full cinema for that. But Dayden find a cinema 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.160 because we need to watch that. Everyone who's joined the podcast, 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.040 I've been asking them this question, something that you learned 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.760 from playing this game? Can you put in a sentence 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.320 in the Game of Australian Survivor. 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.439 In the Game of Australian survivor. I've learned to believe 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.880 more in myself. Going into the game, I honestly didn't 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.480 even think about winning my entire life. I don't put 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:50.080 much belief in myself, and after the whole journey, I've 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.520 learned I need to back myself so much more than 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.680 what I already do. So Yeah, just having the utmost 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.200 belief in your abilities and how capable you are, regardless 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.200 of what it is doing, is so so. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.720