1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Now joining me live in the studio from the Northern 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Territory Police. It is Commander Danny Bacon. Good morning to you. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: A sexual assault in Palmerston overnight. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell me exactly what's happened? 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, eight o'clock last night in Parmesan an unknown male 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: sexually assault today a woman that was out walking her dog. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: She contacted police after she would managed to escape. As 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: a result of her contacting police and quick investigation results, 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: we've been able to apprehend a twenty seven year old 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: male this morning. He's been arrested for sexually assaulting her 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: last night and he's currently in custody. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Commander, do we know the age of the victim? 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: I do, but. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't not at liberty to say. I mean that 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: is a horrifying situation. So she's out walking her dog 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: at eight pm last night and is approached by a 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: man who's unknown to her and sexually assaulted. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Did she so? What? 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: Like? 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: What happened next? Did she manage to fight him off? 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: She did? 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: She fought him off and defend herself with a stick nearby. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: He's fled the scene. She's contacted police immediately. Crime scene 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: was declared and that said investive. Yeah, has undertaken overnight 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: and this morning he's been that branded. 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: Which is Look, I find this absolutely horrifying for a 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: whole raft of reasons. But I, as most of our 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: listeners would know, Look, I'm somebody who goes off exercising 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: very often. I think that as a female, you worry 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: about your own safety every time you go out exercising, right, 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Like I go. I make sure that I go places 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: that I know there's going to be plenty of other 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: people around. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing for me. 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: And one would think as a woman, you would actually 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: think that if you are out with your dog, presumably 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, a large dog, that you're gonna be relatively safe. 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: So then to have something like this happen in Palmerston 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock last night, it actually makes me really furious. 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: It's horrendous. Furious makes you seek it really does. We 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: talk about gender boase violence, you know, very frequently on 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 3: the show, as you're aware, and domestic violences is primarily 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: what we talk about because this is epidemic, but gender 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: based violence more generally. 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: Instance of this note are here. 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's just, yeah, it is, it's so wrong, 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: so he's been charged now this morning with he's. 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: Been arrested, so you the investigations obviously still ongoing, but 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: we expect him to be lad a charge today. 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, no doubt we will hear more in 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: relation to those charges as the day progresses. 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: Commandro'll just ask you about one that happened to a 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: little earlier in the week. 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: Two people were charged after allegedly stealing a car from 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: a Darwin City servo. Police informed were informed, I should 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: say that a Hyondai Kona was taken allegedly by a 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: man on Saturday night. 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: Yes it was, and the owner confronted the offenders. Fortunate enough, 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: he wasn't injured significantly at all, but he did receive 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: some minor injuries that required treatment four miles at Awful 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: End of the premises at Clargi Road, in an attempt 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: to steal the tyle Land Cruiser. He heard the vehicle 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: start and the confront of the males. One of the 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: males ud of the vehicle and around the front gate. 65 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: So that's that. Sorry, I reckon, I reckon. 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: We've joined two pressure releases there, so one of them 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: was from Darwin City, but that one was yarrawonga, wasn't it? 68 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: Yes? It was? 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: Now go to that because that sounds actually horrendous. What's so, 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: just talk us through exactly what happened in that situation. 71 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: Cody, the owner was alert of the theft and when 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: he heard the vehicle start, he was at the premises 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: at the time, so he's confronted the males. The males 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: were armed, which this is another thing about confronting people 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: when the community offenders. Your life is not worth your vehicle. 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: It really is not. So we really need to get 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: that message out that way to not engage. We really 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: do because and we don't want victims to be heard 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: in any shape or form. But going back into itself, 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 3: the vehicle club of the Trees teim was locked street 81 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: in control and the offenders fled the seat at the time. 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: So that mattis still under investigation. There's a number of 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: investig avenues that we hope to wrap that matter up 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: as soon as we can. 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because I know that we've interviewed Dale Marty 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Barnard from Strike Force Strident just a week or so ago, 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and he told us about the number of vehicles that 88 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: were actually being stolen from people from the daily region 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: and being taken sort of back out to the daily 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: region in this instance, Do we have any idea whether. 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 3: That is the cave that we are seeing across Greater Darwin, 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: particularly for run law for use as a motor vehicle, 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: and it is predominantly that particular region where we're seeing 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: those vehicles, yeah, go to and being recovered and defenders 95 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: being arrested. 96 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: Yes. What is your advice like if you own because 97 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: it does seem as though the vehicle of choice is 98 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: older model toyotas Like it seems like you you know, 99 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: your land cruisers, your Troopers, you you. 100 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't think your high luxes. 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: What's your advice like if you own one of those vehicles? 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, do you need to take some I know 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: it sounds ridiculous, right, I get that people are going 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: to be yelling at the radios going wolfe, come on, 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to go down that path. But I 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: also know that it would be your pride and joy. 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: So what extra measures can people kind of take to 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: make sure that their vehicles are safe? 109 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: Well, I would certainly have a conversation with your insurance 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: companies as well as a number of measures you undertake 111 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: to additional security measures to your vehicle itself to both 112 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: enable disable the vehicle itself so it can't be driven away. 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: This is also matters of you know, so we can 114 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: track the vehicle a lot of time. So there's a 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: number of different measures you could sort of undertake regards 116 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: to securing your propery itself. And this isn't victim blaming 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: any shape or formance, protecting your property but also allowing 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: I suppose, maximum opportunity for police to recover the vehicle 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: a lot of time if we can use some other 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: investigative methods to take that as well. 121 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: So you know, unfortunately, vehicle. 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: Theft is high across the territory, not just in daw 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: On itself. We are seeing those trends come down, but 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: they are they do. Spike Strike Force try and do 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: an amazing job in regards to certainly that quick recovery. 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day is you know, 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: we don't want the offenses to care to start with. 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: So there's a huge body of work in that space. 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: But certainly in regards to the curing your vehicles itself, 130 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: as I said, have a conversation with your insurance companies, 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: your vehicle manufacturers. 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: There's a number of thinglea this morning. 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm not sure if you're across this one, but 134 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: apparently between eight thirty and nine thirty last night there 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: was a situation developed at the Bakewell shops between what 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: Steve the listener says was two different groups of Indigenous people, 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: mainly males aged between fifteen and thirty five, but he 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: said it also included some women and kids and it 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: started with arguments over alcohol. It continued for about an 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: hour then ended up into the Bakewell shop area. It's 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: spilt over into Verena Park across the road. As it 142 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: then ended up, there was rocks being thrown at passing cars, 143 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: damaged done to vehicles in the car park. Then towards 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: the end, about fifteen people, apparently a number of them 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: armed with steel legs from the construction signs and other 146 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: things ripped off buildings, raced across the car park to 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: attack another group. Now they say that they got in 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: contact with police, but he does say that he was 149 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: on the police assistant signed for over ten minutes. He 150 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: was really struggling to get in contact. 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: Do you know. It looks as though there were. 152 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: A couple of units that ended up out there, do 153 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: you know what the situation was. 154 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: I don't have the four particulars before me today, Kabri. 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: What I'll certainly do is undertake to get that information 156 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: for you today, for yourself and your listeners. But you 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: know what I can say, certainly in regards to our 158 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: workload overnight. You know, we've had from night shift itself, 159 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: for go one hundred and twenty eight outstanding very matters 160 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: for dispatch over the night shift itself. You know, out 161 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: of those one hundred and twenty eight, eighty two of 162 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: those matters with domestic violence matters so and seventy of 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: those matters also were Priority one matters, which are a 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: greater response which require an urgent notification. So I will 165 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: have a look at that particulars and come back to 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 3: you and your listen as well. But I will emphasize 167 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: that our demand for services are still quite high as 168 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: an agency within the community itself, and domestic violence is 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: still again, you know, features quite probably with that you're 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: well aware that you know, in June of this year, 171 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: we've had four domestic violence deaths, you know, just within 172 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: one particular region itself. 173 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: So and then eight I think it is for this 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: financial year, isn't it from Yeah. 175 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: It's just horrendous for yourself, you know, go back that 176 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: gender based violence. It's just horrendous. 177 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because obviously everybody understands the police absolutely 178 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: under the pump. 179 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: But then when you look at something. 180 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Like that where you've got groups of people attacking each 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: other with what's described as steel poles, like it's it's 182 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: hard to sort of imagine that that's not a priority one. 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: And I know that you guys have to have to 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: obviously prioritize thing but things, But for a lot of listeners, 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: they'll be going, how is that not like a priority 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: one situation? 187 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: Jobs are prioritized according to the risk, and they really are. 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that was not It may have 189 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: been escalated or probably one time. Obviously police did at 190 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: ten at eight points in time and demand for services 191 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: are quite home. Yeah, and domestic violence still features in 192 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: the predominant that area as well. 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Look, Commander, one of the other areas that we continue 194 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: to see incidents as well is on our roads. More 195 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: pedestrians struck earlier in the week, or at least one 196 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: somebody else had been in contact with us and said 197 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: that they believed a second had been on McMillan's road 198 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: that was a little earlier in the week. 199 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: However, you look. 200 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: At it, this just seems to be something that is 201 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: happening really very often. 202 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: Five deaths in November and we haven't even finished November yet. 203 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: You know, we're seeing at a level of fifty seven 204 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: now this time last year was sitting at twenty seven, 205 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, lives lost in our rows. You know, we're 206 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: thirty above that and well in excess of thirty one 207 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: which was last. 208 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: Year, and we haven't reached the peak of that. We 209 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: are out on the road. 210 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: We've doubled our our road safety offices, both in our 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: Springs and Darwin. We're trying to get out there and 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: put that message well. But it's not just the drivers, 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: it's pedestrians. It's all road uses themselves. But you're a cyclist, 214 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: motorcyclist in a vehicle or on the road as a 215 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: pedestrian itself crossing the road. So it's about personal responsibility 216 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 3: as well. 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: It really is. 218 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: We're not out there to force we actually want people 219 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: to do the right thing. We want to be there 220 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: as a presence to make sure they do that we 221 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: don't want to be out there just to find people, 222 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: want people to actually. 223 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Be doing the right Thank you, he commander. 224 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: One other thing I'm king to ask you about just 225 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: very quickly. I don't know if you've got a huge 226 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: amount of detail, but I know that some of the 227 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Cyclone Tracy survivors are planning to protest on the twenty ninth, 228 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: where there is indeed going to be an event that 229 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: the Council is holding. Now a number of these protesters, 230 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they've told me themselves that they're going to 231 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: be the oldest group of protesters possibly around Australia that 232 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: we've ever seen protest. 233 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 234 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Whether that's right or not, but what I do know 235 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: is that our Cyclone Tracy survivors are incredibly pass and 236 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: they want to make sure that they can actually get 237 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: their message across. 238 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 2: Are the police aware of them protesting? 239 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Is that something that they need permission from you guys 240 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: for in any way? 241 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: So they they've let us know what they're doing, what's 242 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: going on, and we'll have that regular dialogue with the 243 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: process that protesting is a healthy sign of democracy of 244 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: their organization. Really with our society is as long as 245 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: it's done safely and you know they're not threatening anybody itself. 246 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: So I'm quite satisfied that you know that there's nothing 247 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: untowards going to come from that particular protest itself. As 248 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: I said, we were engaging with the protest organizer themselves, 249 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: and yeah, we'll continue. 250 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: It's not illegal for them to go and protest down there, 251 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: is it. 252 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: No, No, it's not with counsel as well. 253 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: So you know protesting, yes, you do sometimes need a 254 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: permit to protest, but that'll be relevant to the town council, 255 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: not police. Counsel will consult police if needed in regards 256 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: to occupying public space which is owned by council. Yeah, 257 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: they'll need to engage counsel and have discussions with them 258 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: as well, which I believe is being undertaken by them, 259 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's a matter for them as well. And yeah, 260 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: as I said, I welcome people's you know, a right 261 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: to express their point of view. 262 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: I really do. 263 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: And I'm very comfortable that that engagement is occurred between 264 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: our organization and the head of that. 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: Group protest out well. Well, sounds like he's doing the 266 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: right thing. 267 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Commander Danny Bacon always good to catch up with you, 268 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning. 269 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: No worries Ka, thank you, thank you,