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Speaker 3: Finally make Welcome back to the Rise and Conquer podcast.

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Speaker 3: The podcast for women who want to take control of

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Speaker 3: I'm your host Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur and

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Speaker 3: Today's episode we dive deep into body positivity, diet culture,

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Speaker 3: A hundred percent. And I think I think that's also

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Speaker 1: a month before, and we're seeing them again. I felt

446
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Speaker 1: like I had to be smaller because that was what

447
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 1: people wanted me to be. And I was such this

448
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 1: huge success of like, oh my god, I lost this

449
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: much this quick. It's like, well, you have to keep

450
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 1: doing it, like you can't then retract and be this

451
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: other body.

452
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 2: It's like you failed.

453
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: So it was like this huge unspoken pressure and I

454
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 1: put it on myself like no one else was thinking it,

455
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 1: you know, it was just in my head of like

456
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: I needed to be that. And it was a weird time,

457
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 1: like I it was my last year of UNI, so

458
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 1: it was my final year of UNI when I lost

459
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: all of this weight and I was working full time

460
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: and I was just juggling so much, like I don't

461
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 1: know how I did it. I was at the gym

462
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: for hours, like I would go in the morning and

463
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 1: then I'd trained in the afternoons as well, and then

464
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 1: I'd work on the weekends. I was working in Sydney

465
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: as well, so I was like traveling. I did my

466
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: internship like teaching internship this year as well, so it

467
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: was just like all of these things. I think I

468
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: was kind of just an autopilot, like I don't know,

469
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 1: probably running about it too. Yeah, and I just it

470
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: was like, I think of it now, like how did

471
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: I ever do that like that? It just sounds so

472
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 1: draining to me now. And then Yeah, so after that year,

473
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: I kind of kept wanting more and more and more,

474
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: and I started tracking macros and weighing food and became

475
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: more obsessed with training and did a few CrossFit comps

476
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I was like this extreme,

477
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have quite an addictive personality,

478
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: so like I take something on and I'm just so

479
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: focused on it. Yeah, and yeah, it lasted like probably

480
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: three to four years of fully training and tracking and

481
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: literally tracking every single bit of food that I ate.

482
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: And then finally my body kind of was giving me

483
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: signals of like, you know, I can't do this anymore.

484
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: And that was in like twenty seventeen, so that was

485
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: the year of our wedding. Yeah, which is kind of

486
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 1: weird when I actually think about it, but that's kind

487
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: of when it all changed and I realized that I

488
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: needed to kind of snap out of this whole diving

489
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: and it wasn't helping me long term, and I was

490
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: just so unhappy and so drained.

491
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Speaker 3: And then tell us that transition from realizing that, you know,

492
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: your body couldn't withstand that march stress and pressure, and

493
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: then tell us the transition because I resonated with this

494
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: story so much and personally have been in the position

495
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: where you have been, you know, this certain identity, like

496
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Speaker 3: you said, for three or four years, you have been

497
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 3: you know, the person who always lost weight and gym

498
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 3: and tracking all that sort of thing, and then transitioning

499
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Speaker 3: into this more balance, more you.

500
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: Person Like what that like? Was that hard?

501
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? So hard?

502
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: I actually for a period there. So it was weird

503
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: how it happened because my wedding was in September. I

504
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: should say our wedding.

505
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: Not my wedding.

506
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: I've always been my wedding like, oh man, i'd do that.

507
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 4: I do it, And I say, like my house too.

508
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Yes, excuse me.

509
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: I know Nick's probably going, oh my god. Yeah, like,

510
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: don't even bother that I was there. It's all good.

511
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

512
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: So that year, I just I ended up actually falling

513
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: into a bit of like a binge restrict cycle, which

514
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's kind of inevitable when you've

515
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: dited for so long, and my body just couldn't withstand

516
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: it anymore. Like, yeah, I was consuming huge amounts of

517
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: calories in one sitting, and then I just had so

518
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: much guilt and shame and was going to bed feeling

519
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: so sick. And I kind of got to this point

520
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: of just being fed up, like I was so unhappy,

521
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: and you know, in the lead up to our wedding,

522
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: it's not how I wanted to feel.

523
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: Is consumed by food and training.

524
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: And not even enjoying the excessive planning with my husband

525
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: to be like I was at the gym. Yeah, and

526
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: I remember I so vividly remember thinking about the dinner

527
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: at the wedding and thinking about the food on our

528
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: honeymoon and being so like stressed and anxious about how

529
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: I was going to track that, Like, how was I

530
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: going to track my wedding dinner?

531
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: Wow? I know, I don't know, and.

532
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: I just knew kind of at this point when I

533
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: was just so consumed, like I wasn't enjoying life, I

534
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: was like, something needs to change, and I, yeah, I

535
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: had this whole identity of being that person lost weight.

536
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: So I really struggled to know how to move away

537
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: from that as well. So there was actually a point there,

538
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: and I spoke to my best friend about it and

539
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I feel this pressure like this

540
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: is who I am, this is why people follow me,

541
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: is to get these points and to lose weight and

542
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: to you know, be this lack inverted commas success.

543
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: So I said to her, like, what do I do?

544
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: I was posting photos from you know, a couple months

545
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 1: ago when I looked like this, and I don't actually

546
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: look like this anymore, and I felt this pressure of

547
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: not being able to share my real life at that

548
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: time because of what people would say about my body

549
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: and that you know, I'd failed and whatever whatever. And

550
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: she was like, you've changed, your audience has changed, You're

551
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: going to keep changing. You're not going to be like

552
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: this forever, so just do it, like, just post it

553
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: and to like own it.

554
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Okay.

555
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I remember post There was this one photo

556
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: and it went absolutely wild both ways. That kind of

557
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: like a bit of a transformation of you know, what

558
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: I was like at my smallest to what I was

559
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: like then. And it was in bikinis in both so

560
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: you could obviously see my body easily. And yeah, there

561
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: was lots of support, like you know, nine to nine

562
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: percent was support, but then of course there were people

563
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: that came on and you know, had their two cents worth.

564
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: Which whatever.

565
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was really hard to kind of accept

566
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: that and just know, almost know that those people that

567
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: had something negative to say were going to be filtered out.

568
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: So and that's what she said to me as well.

569
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: She's like, people that don't resonate with you, now we'll leave,

570
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: and that's fine, Like they're not the people you want

571
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: to stick around anyway. So yeah, I kind of just

572
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: had to accept that maybe it was gonna backfry you

573
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of you know, follower numbers

574
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: and whatever whatever, but it actually, in the long term

575
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: was the best thing ever. Like, yeah, I'm a completely

576
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: different person to what I was when I was sharing

577
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: that and when I started my Instagram as well, because

578
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: it did start as like a weight loss page.

579
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's done like a full three sixty.

580
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Speaker 4: Wow.

581
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Speaker 3: Firstly, can I say what an amazing best friend you have?

582
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: I know she is Askiro shaut At Candace. If you're listening,

583
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: you're amazing.

584
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been.

585
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: There through it all and you know I need and

586
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: I think it's so easy to get so caught up

587
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: in this Instagram world and you know, take on all

588
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: of his opinions and stuff. So I'm so thankful to

589
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: have best friend and husband and my brother. Oh my god,

590
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: my brother is the most. I don't know if you

591
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: can relate, but if anyone's going to put you in

592
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: their place that put you in your place, it's your brother. Like, yeah,

593
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: you think you are, take take it down a notch,

594
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: like you're not that special, which I love, like I

595
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: love having exactly and I'm the same with him, so

596
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: I can't complain but having people around me to just

597
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: be like snuff out of it, like you are you,

598
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: We love you because of this.

599
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Everyone else is going to love you because of this.

600
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I was really stuck in my

601
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: own head about showing that and showing that kind of

602
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: journey away from dieting when it was sort of all

603
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: I'd ever shared. Mmm.

604
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: Well, and I remember watching your stories, and I remember

605
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: you did a Q and a highlight of you know,

606
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: your restrictive diets, and you were saying, you know, there

607
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: was literally one point where you were weighing lettus leaves. Yeah,

608
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: you're eating dinner and now you know you have, like

609
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: you said, completely one eighty. Can you kind of tell

610
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: us what your what helped you with you know, easing

611
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: into a less well a non restrictive and diet, and

612
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: also your relationship with food, because I think most girls

613
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: in the early twenties go through some sort of transition

614
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: with this, like you said, they feel like, you know,

615
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: they have to look a certain way and be a

616
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: certain person. And I really resonated with what you said

617
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: of how you just, you know, wanted to weigh less

618
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: and take up less space. And I think as young women,

619
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 3: we all go through this you know sort of thing

620
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: where we want to take up less space and we

621
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: just want to be smaller, and it's so bizarre because

622
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: it just makes no sense.

623
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: We look at, you know, the bigger picture.

624
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: So talk us through, you know, what was going through

625
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: your head back then and then how your relationship with

626
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: food is now.

627
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was crazy, Like when I think back

628
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: to some of the stuff that I was doing, I

629
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: just want to slap myself, like it's.

630
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Not out of it, but what are you doing?

631
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I remember, and when I talk about best friend,

632
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: like when I was at her wedding.

633
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: I remember there was like.

634
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: A buffet and I was literally again sitting there going

635
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: like I can't eat that because I don't know what's

636
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: in it.

637
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: I don't know how it was cooked. I can't track it.

638
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Like I was just so consumed by this thought of

639
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: constantly having to track everything, and I just thought, that's

640
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: what you did. You know, that's what and it is.

641
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: That's what macro canon is, you know, inverted commas. Again,

642
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: that's what you do. You track all of it.

643
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, you need to know.

644
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: Every single gram of carb, fat, protein, all of that.

645
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: So I guess for me, in my head at that time,

646
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see it as a problem. It wasn't until

647
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: again like Nick, mum Ben, like my brother, everyone was like,

648
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: are you seriously bringing your own food to these events?

649
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember going to the movies like,

650
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: oh my god.

651
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: Even saying this out loud is like so cringey for

652
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: me now, But I remember going to the movies and

653
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: I was literally Nick was so embarrassed. I would literally

654
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: take like carrot sticks that a weighed homus that was weighed,

655
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: like all these different little containers of sacks so that

656
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: I could sit in the movies and eat my snacks

657
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: while he had his like popcorn and frozen coke and whatever.

658
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there like crunching on carrot like

659
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: what I remember him going like are you actually bringing that?

660
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: And then like smuggle it in my bag and.

661
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

662
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: So I was just in this crazy mentality where I

663
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: had to track absolutely everything, and I remember I ended

664
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: up getting to the point of like if I would

665
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: overeat one day, then I would hoard the like so

666
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: the calories that I had eaten, I would take them

667
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: off the next day, so that then the next day

668
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: my total was less because I had carried it over

669
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: to the next day, if that makes sense.

670
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: So it was like this constant.

671
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: Cycle of you know, eating more than what I had

672
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: whack predicted, I guess, and then yeah, minusing that off

673
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: the next day and then I'd do it again. And

674
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I was also hoarding calories, so like not eating much

675
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: through the day and then hoarding it all for this

676
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: one meal or one dessert or whatever. And yeah, just

677
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: my whole mentality was just so obsessive and just so

678
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: dictated by numbers. Like even now I remember things I

679
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: was eating then that I don't even like eating, like

680
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I hate tuna, like I hate tuna, and I remember

681
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: being like, no, tune's great protein, it's great in salads,

682
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Like now I eat it, and I forced myself you.

683
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: Know, Okay, you know it's really funny because I, much

684
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: like you, was super restrictive at one point, and I

685
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: what helped me was reading like basically books that had

686
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: lots of scientific facts about why diets don't work.

687
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

688
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: I remember reading this study where they said, you know,

689
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: when you get to a point when you're so restrictive,

690
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: your taste buds change, and your body will basically think

691
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: things are you know, so delicious and so tasty, when

692
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: in reality, it's like your body will basically accept anything

693
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: because it's so right.

694
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: Yes, And I remembered this.

695
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: I remember eating like, quote unquote diet foods that just

696
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: like were not actually you know, tasty or anything like

697
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: I taste them now, I would not like them.

698
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: And I remember tim.

699
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: Tasting them and being like, this is so gross. And

700
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: I remember tasting them and being like, no, babe, this

701
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: tastes so so yum.

702
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can relate.

703
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: You literally brain washed yourself and your body into thinking

704
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: you liked certain foods and yeah, this stuff is it

705
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: not crazy?

706
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: It's so weird, and it's like you eat things just

707
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: because it fits in your calories for the day, Like yeah,

708
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: but you don't even like the food, but it fits

709
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: perfectly into this stupid equation.

710
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: So you eat it anyway, like sane. Yes.

711
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of got to that point of

712
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: just and again, like you know, before the wedding and stuff,

713
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: being like I can't live like this, like how am

714
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I going to do this for the rest of my life?

715
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: And like I said, kind of got into this Yeah.

716
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: Sorry you go, No I was.

717
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, so, what actually helped you

718
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: with that transition?

719
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

720
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: So I remember having one like really big binge episode

721
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: and the next morning I just still felt so crappy.

722
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: I went onto the podcast app.

723
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: And just searched Binge Eating, and I was like, because

724
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I knew, you know, something was going on, and I

725
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to learn a bit more about it.

726
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: So I literally just tapped him Binge Eating and this

727
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: podcast called Brain over Binge. I recommend it to anyone

728
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: who feels like they're kind of out of control around

729
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: food and have that kind of yeah, like that binge

730
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: sort of tendency.

731
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: I guess.

732
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: So there's a podcast called Brain over Binge. I listened

733
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: to that and I loved it. Like the first episode,

734
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: within the first couple of minutes.

735
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: I was just like, she's speaking to me, like this

736
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: is me.

737
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: All over and just resonated so much with what she

738
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: was saying. So yeah, I listened to every single episode

739
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: of that over a space of time, obviously, and I

740
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: ended up buying her book as well. So she's got

741
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: a book of the same name, and I loved that.

742
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: So I kind of once I realized that, yeah, this

743
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: is where I am, I wanted to learn why. So

744
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, why was I feeling like I needed to

745
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: eat all of this food in one sitting when it's

746
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: still going to be there tomorrow.

747
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: The next day.

748
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, if you never have to diet again, you're

749
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: never going to feel restricted again. So that's kind of

750
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: what I kept getting out of it, is this whole

751
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm binging because I'm dieting, And if I cut that

752
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: dieting factor out, then I'm not going to feel this

753
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: need to eat such huge amounts of foods in one

754
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: sitting because I'm never going to feel restricted again, if

755
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, Yeah, so I kind of just

756
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: did like lots of research and reading and listen to

757
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: podcasts and that sort of thing. And obviously there were

758
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: some that I listened to that didn't really resonate with me,

759
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: and then that was some that I really liked, and

760
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: same with books as well. So yeah, brain over Binge

761
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: is amazing. And then I guess for me, I knew,

762
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, she was talking a lot about how when

763
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: you're recovering, you're going to have to learn to accept

764
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: your body changing. And that's a big fear, you know,

765
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: of letting yourself eat what you want. You're like, well,

766
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: all I'm going to eat is chocolate and chips and biscuits,

767
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: and I'm going to put on all this weight, and

768
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: you know that's me, that's me for my life, Like

769
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm just going to live off this. And I had

770
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: that thought and it almost made you accept it of like,

771
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: if that is what you want to eat for the

772
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: next two months, let yourself eat it, you know whatever,

773
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: however long. So I kind of just let myself do it,

774
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: like I told. I remember telling Nick and my mom

775
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: being like, I think I'm going to stop tracking food

776
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: and they looked at me like I had three heads.

777
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean, like, because I've been

778
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: doing it for so long. That was so supportive. If

779
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Nick especially was very excited because it meant, you know,

780
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: no more carried at the movies and we could go

781
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: out for dinner and stuff like that. So having that

782
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: support around me was great as well. But yeah, I

783
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of had to just accept that they were going

784
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: to be changes in my body and in what I

785
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: was eating, and to just try and listen more to

786
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: what I actually wanted rather than what an app was

787
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: telling me that I wanted.

788
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

789
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: And don't you think it's quite crazy? Because yeah, like

790
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 3: I like said, I went through pretty much the same thing. Yeah,

791
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: is like at the start, you're like, oh my god,

792
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: all I'm going to want to eat is you know,

793
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: I scream and all this sort of stuff and death

794
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: at the start, like you do, like I eat all

795
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: the foods.

796
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like.

797
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Your body sort of like resets and balances, and you're like,

798
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, like it just takes.

799
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

800
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: I oh, wow, I actually know exactly what to eat

801
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: and when to eat, and I feel so good and

802
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 3: this all doesn't have to be so hard.

803
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: No, And I think it's hard to trust yourself.

804
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Like I guess you lose some you lose touch with

805
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: what you actually like and what you want and what

806
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: you want to eat and whatever that you're think you're

807
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: gonna stop dieting and like you say, just eat all

808
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: of eat all of the things, you know. And I

809
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: did the exact same thing, Like there were months there

810
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: where I was just eating whatever whatever.

811
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: But then you get to Yeah, it's weird.

812
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: You get to this point and your body's like okay,

813
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: like I've had enough now, and I know it loses yeah,

814
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: like it literally it like.

815
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Loses its power as well. It's like literally just heal.

816
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I can have that all the time, Like

817
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: I don't need to have that.

818
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when you've had your aureos, sorry, no, you're right,

819
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: Like when you've had oreos every day for two months,

820
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: you're like, fuck me, I don't want another oreo ever.

821
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm so over it, you know, like you almost

822
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: eat it so.

823
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Much that you're just like, oh, I don't even want that,

824
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Like give me something else.

825
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And isn't it funny? Like I remember back in

826
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: the day, just food just consumed my whole like thought process,

827
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: and I remember every single day. It was like what

828
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: am I going to eat and what time I'm going

829
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: to eat and what flavors I'm going to eat and

830
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: all this sort of thing. And it's so funny because

831
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: now litter. The other day, I was having a really

832
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: busy work day, and this doesn't happen too often, but

833
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: I like, you know, like I just needed some food

834
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: to basically sustain me so I could like go throughout

835
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: this busy day. And I'm saying to Tim, you know,

836
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: after dinner, I was like, oh my god, sometimes I

837
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: wish like we didn't even have to eat, so I

838
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: could just kind of like living my life and not

839
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: like think about it. And he said to me, He's like, honestly,

840
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: like if you think back in the day, how obsessed

841
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: you were with food and what you're going to eat

842
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: and when you're going to eat, to now when you're

843
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: like not.

844
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Eating, I don't even care about eating.

845
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost just like I'll do it because I

846
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: need the brain power and the energy rather than because

847
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm so obsessed with what I'm putting in my mouth.

848
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: Like he was like, it's comes such a long way,

849
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: and it yeah, it's insane. It's wild how obsessed and

850
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, consumed your brain once was to when you

851
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: give it, you don't give it the power anymore.

852
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, you'd be the same.

853
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Like I remember waking up and yeah, thinking about what

854
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: I was going to eat that day, what hird pre

855
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: programmed into my calories and whatever. They're going to bed

856
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. It's like, Okay, did I hit this,

857
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: did I eat this? Did I eat enough of this?

858
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, Like there's other stuff going on.

859
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: You don't have to like ye and yeah, when now

860
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: like open the fridge and I'm like, hmmm, what do

861
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I actually feel like?

862
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

863
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: What I actually feel like?

864
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: And this is an interesting question and just something I

865
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: personally found through my journey of ditching diet culture is

866
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: when you know, before when I was quite consumed with

867
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: what I was eating and how I looked and when

868
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: I was training, and when I was training.

869
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: It's like that was pretty much a full time job.

870
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: And then when I stopped, you know, ditch diet culture

871
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: and didn't let it take, you know, a front seat

872
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: in my life, it's like I had all this like

873
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: brain capacity for other things and it's like so much

874
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: more done and I'm so much more productive and I've

875
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: done so much more with my life.

876
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: Do you agree?

877
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred.

878
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: It's like it literally I've read a couple of things where,

879
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost like society is trying to make

880
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: you so consumed by all of these things so that

881
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: you can't achieve anything else. It's like you're so busy

882
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: worrying about them that you're not going to achieve anything else,

883
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: so you're going to be kind of like dwindled down.

884
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: And it's so true, like when that's all you're thinking about,

885
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: you don't have the brain capacity in this space to

886
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: do anything else, Like.

887
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: I'm so consumed.

888
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I've actually heard something and this is a bit controversial,

889
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: so I'm just going to say it.

890
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: Go on, go on as I do.

891
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: So basically, I kind of know what you were saying before.

892
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: And I've heard this too, that you know, diet and

893
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: the way women are supposed to look was made up

894
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: by the patriarchy to basically keep us busy and to

895
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: keep small so we were, you know, put in our

896
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: place and we weren't trying to run the world.

897
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Yep, and to like almost keep us quiet, like if

898
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: we're so yeah, if we're so consumed by all of that,

899
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: what else are we going to do?

900
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: Like we're not a threat to twenty one, you.

901
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Know, exactly, And isn't that like I one hundred percent

902
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: even if it's if it is like controversial, like I

903
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: one hundred percent believe that because I have experienced that

904
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: in my life to being like it just even the

905
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: physical you know, the physical aspect of wanting to make

906
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: yourself smaller and taking up less space, wanting to be yourself,

907
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: having your own thoughts and really you know, taking up

908
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: space and being who you want to be and having

909
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: this voice.

910
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: It's sting, isn't it.

911
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? And it's like why would we want to be less?

912
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Like, you know, you should be wanting to be more

913
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: and more and more and the more of you the better,

914
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, like the more you can share with people

915
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: the better, rather than being so like I don't know,

916
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: put in this little box of like that's all you

917
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: care about is your body and food and dieting like boring.

918
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: You know, literally like looking the same like how fucking yeah?

919
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: Who wants that?

920
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: All right?

921
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So something else that I really want to touch

922
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: on before we switch gears again. And this is from

923
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: a post on your Instagram and you're where a beautiful

924
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: yellow bikini and ye your caption you wrote, and this

925
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: is quoting you.

926
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: I okay, here we go, Here we go.

927
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: I used to dream of the day when I would

928
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: actually like what I saw in the mirror. I vividly

929
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: remember wishing to wake up in someone else's body and

930
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: thought that that would make me happier, more confident, and

931
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: ultimately give me the life I always wanted.

932
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: But wake up.

933
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: But the wake up call is the life I was

934
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: dreaming of was more capable of happening in my own body.

935
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I think I butchered that a little.

936
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: Bit, but you get.

937
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: Get the idea.

938
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: I love this so much because it's very much what

939
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: we just chatted about. And I wanted to ask if

940
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: you have any advice for listeners who might not be

941
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: loving the skin they're in and steps on, you know,

942
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: progressing to feel more confident in their own skin.

943
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that, like this whole caption and that

944
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: idea of you know, wanting to look like someone else

945
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: and be someone else. It's just this idea of having

946
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: that body and losing weight is success, you know. And

947
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: I just thought, when I lose weight, all my problems

948
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: are gone.

949
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: I'm going to be happy and confident.

950
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: My life's going to be amazing, Like if I look

951
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: this way and it's just not like so not true,

952
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: and I put things off, you know, put so many

953
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: things off that I wanted to do just because I

954
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: didn't lose a couple of kilos, Like I didn't look

955
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: a certain way, so I thought I couldn't do it.

956
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: Like life is.

957
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Happening now, and I think that's what I've learned, you know,

958
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: over a long period of time. But like I lost

959
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: the weight, I got that body, I got that goal body,

960
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: and what I thought was that and I wasn't happy.

961
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have it all together. My problems

962
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: were still there. It's not a ticket to the perfect

963
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: life or that you suddenly have endless confidence because you

964
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: have lost weight. I was more self conscious than ever

965
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: at my smallest weight and was nitpicking more things than

966
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: when No my body now being heavier and whatever. So

967
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just to know that this idea we

968
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: have in our heads of that perfect body and the

969
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: ideal body and wanting to look like that and not

970
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable in ourselves. Even if you have that body,

971
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: you will still have something that you're worried about or

972
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: that you're self conscious about, Like it's never going to

973
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: go away, so why.

974
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Put it off?

975
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: And why I put life off when it's happening now

976
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: in your body, Like you can live your dream life

977
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: in the exact body that you have now, you don't

978
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: need to put anything off.

979
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yes? Yeah?

980
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: And do you have any tips for you know, like

981
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: I said, people who are really struggling, and like, I

982
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: guess I'm because you know, like logically you say that,

983
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: and they're like, yes, I get it, logically I get it.

984
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

985
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, is like a whole different story than embodying that.

986
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: What were your sort of kind of things that helped you?

987
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: So I the thing that kind of switched my thinking

988
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: with body. Another book recommendation. It's called Body Positive Power.

989
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: It's by Megan Krab. She's body Posy Panda on Instagram.

990
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: She's got a large following, She's amazing on Instagram. So

991
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I bought her book and there was so much in there,

992
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Like I remember highlighting sections and reading them over and over,

993
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: and she was constantly just like building you up to

994
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: realize that your worth is not your appearance. So I

995
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: highly recommend that book Body Positive Power. It's amazing and

996
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: I think it's really important as well. You know, at

997
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're the one controlling your feed,

998
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: like your Instagram feed and what you're consuming. So I

999
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: think diversifying what you're seeing and following people that don't

1000
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: look like you is a big way of kind of

1001
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of diversity back into your feed

1002
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: and realizing that you can have confidence, you know, in

1003
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: all of these different body types, and surrounding yourself with

1004
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: women that are confident and uplifting and sharing these you know,

1005
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: that same sort of message of yeah, your worth is

1006
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: not your body. I mean, it takes a lot of learning,

1007
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's easy for me to say now,

1008
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: like four years down the track, so yeah, yeah, it

1009
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: doesn't come overnight, and it's a constant almost like a

1010
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: constant learning. You know, you have to keep actively seeking

1011
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: that out because the world wants you to see the

1012
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: other body type. The world is programming you to see

1013
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: this inverted commas ideal all the time, so you almost

1014
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: have to push against that and actively seek out people

1015
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: that are doing the same thing, you know, that are

1016
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: pushing against that whole idea and surround yourself with that.

1017
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely podcasts and books and there's so much

1018
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: out there on body acceptance and yeah, like learning to

1019
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: love your body and self confidence in that.

1020
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: And also following hashtags is a good one as well.

1021
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: So there's so.

1022
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Many hashtags out there and you can actually follow them,

1023
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: not just people.

1024
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: So if you're.

1025
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: Wanting, you know, hashtag self confidence or whatever it might

1026
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: be body acceptance or flaws or stretch marks or whatever,

1027
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: you can follow that and then that content will come

1028
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: up in your feed as well, so it can be

1029
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: another way of normal and you know, normalizing our bodies.

1030
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: I absolutely love that and I couldn't agree more and

1031
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: I think that was for me as well as such

1032
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: a huge turning point is realizing that, you know, when

1033
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: I got on Instagram.

1034
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: All I saw was white, mostly.

1035
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: Blonde, like abnormally skinny, yeah, or ripped bodies, and you know,

1036
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: like it just we think it's our normal when we

1037
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: think that society standards, because that's all we see was

1038
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: in real life, like not on a screen, like that's

1039
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: all I saw, but it's I was almost setting myself

1040
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 3: up for failure health. Yeah, And so one hundred percent

1041
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: I love that and that's A huge thing I did too,

1042
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: was just following other bodies, you know, even following other

1043
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: not so much even other bodies, but just other things

1044
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: not related to your body.

1045
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely definitely finding other like you know, hoscounts, like

1046
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: renovating and like stuff like that that takes you away

1047
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: from focusing on your body as well. Is great because

1048
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: I know my feed and you're probably the same, were

1049
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: saturated with healthy recipes and healthy swaps and you know,

1050
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: all of this shit and like before and after photos

1051
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: and that's what I was consuming all the time. So

1052
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: to have I don't know, even like following dog accounts

1053
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: of like stuff like that, it's like breaking up that

1054
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: constant diet culture that we're slammed with all the time.

1055
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: And yeah, taking ownership of what you see and what

1056
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: you consume. And I love sorry you go.

1057
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: It's like when you're down at kmart or in coals,

1058
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: you're not seeing that ideal body type. You know, you're

1059
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: not seeing these chicks walk around all the time. Yet

1060
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: we're consuming a twenty four seven on a screen. Yeah,

1061
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: like it's not it's not really live. It's not the

1062
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: average body. So we need to stop, yeah, thinking that

1063
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: it is and that that's normal because it's actually not.

1064
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

1065
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: And also I love what you said about, you know,

1066
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: consuming content in the way of books and podcasts. I

1067
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: remember I did that for like a whole six months.

1068
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: Is like I read every like undiet Ditching diet culture

1069
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: book and I read that book to it and it

1070
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 3: was really good and then yeah, did you like it? Yeah?

1071
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Megan is amazing, and.

1072
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was definitely parts that I feel like, didn't

1073
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: you know some parts and I was like, but then

1074
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: there was some parts I.

1075
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, this is amazing, like.

1076
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I've got another really good book for

1077
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: the audience if they're currently experiencing it. It's called The

1078
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 3: Fuck It Diet Bike.

1079
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, line, I've got that.

1080
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think because she is like so crude

1081
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 3: and she says things so like how it is, I guess,

1082
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: and I love a kind of like a bit of

1083
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: a comedy aspect in a book, and she does that

1084
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: really well, so it was like enjoyable to read. And

1085
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: also just eat it by Laura Thomas was favorite of

1086
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: mine as well.

1087
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: I literally have all of those just Laura Thomas is amazing.

1088
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Her podcast is great as well. She's yeah, she's got

1089
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: a pot. Have you listened to it? It's called Don't

1090
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Salt My Game? No, Yeah, it's really good.

1091
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: She interviewed. Yeah, anyway, it's great, Okay if people want

1092
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: to listen.

1093
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing. And so just to finish off this conversation, obviously,

1094
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, social media is coming has come a long way,

1095
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: sorry in regards to, you know, normalizing normal bodies and

1096
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: that sort of side of things. But what do you

1097
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: think in regards to social media and being raw and

1098
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: representing all bodies.

1099
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I think that it's definitely kind of going in the

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Speaker 1: right way. I think there's more women speaking up about

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00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: challenging ideals and having these feelings, and I think for

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00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: so long we've almost just held it all inside and

1103
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: felt like we're the weird ones for thinking this way.

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00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: So I think the more people that are speaking up

1105
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, we're all beautiful, we're all normal,

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00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: this idea of what we need to look like is

1107
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: not actually real, it's literally made up. Yeah, I think

1108
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: that there's the more of that, the better, you know.

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00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: So I think there's still definitely a lot of room

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Speaker 1: for improvement, and that there are, of course still accounts

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00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: out there that are very diet focused and food focused

1112
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And you know, I don't

1113
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: think everyone will fall into the same category. I don't

1114
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: think we all need to be this body positive amazing account.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think that by having all different accounts, we get

1117
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: to choose and that, Yeah, it comes down to us

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00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: choosing those accounts that resonate with us and what we

1119
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: feel like we need at a certain point in your life.

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Speaker 1: And I think the penny sort of drops for everyone

1121
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: at a different point as well. And yeah, you know,

1122
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: you can't force people into accepting it. If you feel

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Speaker 1: like you're ready to move away from dieting, then great,

1124
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Speaker 1: But if you feel like you know you're still at

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Speaker 1: that point, then that's fine as well. Like, yeah, I

1126
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: think people will come and go, and accounts will come

1127
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: and go when you need them, So diversifying your feed

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Speaker 1: depending on what.

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Speaker 2: You feel like you need is important.

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00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I think it, Yeah, exactly, And of course,

1131
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's still issues with you know,

1132
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: people photoshopping and face tuning.

1133
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: And all of that. But what do you do.

1134
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: You get to choose whether you follow them or not.

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00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, Like, I think it's always going to be prevalent.

1136
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: It's up to you to filter it out and yeah,

1137
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: follow what you feel like you need.

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00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

1139
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: So before we wrap it up, because we could honestly

1140
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: just keep I know, have.

1141
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: We covered like four questions pretty much?

1142
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So before we wrap it up, I wanted to

1143
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: ask just some more lighthearted questions. What is your favorite

1144
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: way to give back to yourself?

1145
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Look, I love a face mask, absolutely, I love I

1146
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: do face mask and reality TV. Everyone recently would have

1147
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: heard me raving about selling Sunset on Netflix. Yah, it

1148
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: is like the most not brain numbing, but you know

1149
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: where you can just tune out and just get lost

1150
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: in this Hollywood show. So for anyone that wants to

1151
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: watch it, it's like a cross between the Hills and

1152
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: like selling houses anyway.

1153
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, face masks just like some random.

1154
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: Reality TV show, just chilling on the lounge, putting my

1155
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: phone down and just actually like just sitting, you know,

1156
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: and taking some time off yah phone and giving out

1157
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: energy to just sit and watch something that you know

1158
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: makes me dissociate from my life kind of thing one

1159
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

1160
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: And you are such like you're such a positive person

1161
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: and I feel like you give off such a positivity

1162
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: on your social media. But I do have to ask

1163
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: do you have off days and how do you deal

1164
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: with those?

1165
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I think you know, no one is going

1167
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: to be like that all the time. I think just

1168
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: knowing that it will pass, you know, like it's so

1169
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: normal to have days where you look in the mirror

1170
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, you know, you pick yourself apart,

1171
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: or you don't like this, or you know you feel

1172
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: a certain way. But just knowing that the highs and

1173
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: low highs and low will come and that facing those

1174
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: challenges is so normal.

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00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: So kind of just try and do things that.

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00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Allow me to disassociate with what I look like or

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00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. So yeah, I mean that's different for everyone,

1178
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: but for me, like at the gym, I'm not thinking

1179
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: about what I look like. I'm not thinking about anything

1180
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: apart from what I'm actually doing and what my session is,

1181
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: or cleaning or cooking or you know, like doing something

1182
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: that takes you out of your head so that you

1183
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: almost don't have the time to think about your body

1184
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: and how you're feeling or why you're feeling down.

1185
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: And I think for me, a big thing lately that

1186
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: I've noticed is comparison.

1187
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I'm now on social

1188
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: media full time that I'm on there a lot more,

1189
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm consuming a lot of other

1190
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: people's lives a lot more as well, which can make

1191
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: me them compare, so kind of pulling myself back from

1192
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: that and just knowing that, like, my life is great too,

1193
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: and we don't need to be comparing all the time.

1194
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: It's just this waste of energy, you know, Like dwelling

1195
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: on that sort of stuff is just like why am

1196
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: I Like it's not bettering me in any way? Yeah,

1197
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: And I think that as well, like just knowing that

1198
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: being so self conscious and wrapped up in your own

1199
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: head it is it's just a waste, Like it's a

1200
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: waste of your time. Think of all the other things

1201
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: you could be doing better. And I'm you know, I'm

1202
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: not here to say, you know, I'm positive and happy

1203
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: and amazing all the time, of course not. But I

1204
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: think that being able to pull yourself out of those

1205
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: thoughts is huge, you know, And kind of practicing that

1206
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: whenever you get that sort of thought is just like

1207
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: let it come and then let it go and just

1208
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: move on.

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that Kate, and also think a

1210
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: huge thing that you kind of touched on is realizing

1211
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: that it's kind of not this end destination where you

1212
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 3: feel good all the time and things are just amazing

1213
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 3: and you've accepted yourself and you love your body. But

1214
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: it's like this constant thing where you have to keep

1215
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: practicing the self love and the self care and you know,

1216
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: these things keep coming up, but you keep on them.

1217
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: It's impossible to switch off that voice.

1218
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's always going to be there, and there's

1219
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: always going to be that self doubt and that kind

1220
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: of like in our Mean Girl telling you you're not

1221
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: good enough for you know whatever, but being able to yeah, no,

1222
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: that that's not actually you like, it's literally a thought.

1223
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not worth ruining your whole day because

1224
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: of one random thought that you'd have.

1225
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I love that, and so Kate. The

1226
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: last question that I ask everyone is season three is

1227
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: what advice would you give yourself when you're having moments

1228
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: of self doubt or fear around starting something new or

1229
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: doing something new. I'm kind of looking for a pep

1230
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: talk here, tell yourself.

1231
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: Or something that I kind of recently taking your new

1232
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: opportunities I think that you build it up in your head,

1233
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, like you think, oh my god, it's going

1234
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: to be so bad.

1235
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this. I'm going to say the

1236
00:55:59,680 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: wrong thing.

1237
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to look like an idiot when something hasn't

1238
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: even happened and you're in your head saying that you're

1239
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna get it wrong or you know you're going to

1240
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: stuff up. Well, this is going to happen and you're

1241
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna look stupid before it's even happened. Like that doesn't

1242
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: even make sense. So stop doubting before you even get

1243
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: to that point. I know, for me, like I've been

1244
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: asked to do things, and as soon as I get

1245
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: the opportunity, I'm like, nah, I'm just gonna sound so stupid.

1246
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not going to be able to do it.

1247
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: People are going to be disappointed.

1248
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: But then when I get there and I'm in the moment,

1249
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this wasn't even as bad as what

1250
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be.

1251
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: I feel like nothing is ever as bad as what

1252
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: you would envision it to be.

1253
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Like we have this fear of fear, Like it's.

1254
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: We always think worst case scenario, always always need to

1255
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 3: think best case scenario.

1256
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like the more you think about the

1257
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, the more likely you're gonna open the

1258
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: doors for that to happen. Man, you know, like yeah,

1259
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: like just stop, just cut it out, wait till you

1260
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: even get into the situation, like it hasn't even happened yet.

1261
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think that you just need to

1262
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: back yourself, like you're the only one who knows how

1263
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: much potential you actually have, and it's all in your head,

1264
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: it's all yeah, it's all external influences telling you you're

1265
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: not good enough and you know that sort of thing.

1266
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: But you know that you can do it, so stop dwelling.

1267
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: You've just got to do it exactly.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

1269
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, Kate. You have been such

1270
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: a pleasure and such a life on the show. Could

1271
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: you let the audience know where they can find you?

1272
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

1273
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: So look, I have a YouTube channel, but I wouldn't

1274
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: recommend that. I haven't uploaded in like a year, so

1275
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: don't bother with that. But Instagram is where you can

1276
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: find me. So I am a dedicated lifestyle with a

1277
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: K because my name is Kate. Very clever, so dedicated

1278
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: underscore lifestyle on Instagram and that's kind of where I

1279
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: am the most.

1280
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: Look.

1281
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm on TikTok as well, but that's not really happening

1282
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: either because my skills aren't really made for TikTok.

1283
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: I feel your that one.

1284
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: Oh God, I want to get into it so and

1285
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm on it all the time like scrolling, but actually

1286
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: making content is just not my forte.

1287
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also into reel on Instagram. I haven't gotten

1288
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: into that yet.

1289
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Either, See I I love reels because it's like TikTok,

1290
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: but it's on a platform I'm more No, so I

1291
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: feel way more confident where I need to do it.

1292
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: I need to stop welling, see has stop action.

1293
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah but yeah, so dedicated last el is on Instagram

1294
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: and I will flood you with random stories and hopefully

1295
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: post that transform your mindset a bit as well.

1296
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Thank you so much, Kate, of course,

1297
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you so much for listening to that

1298
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: conversation with the amazing Kate. As you can tell, me

1299
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: and Kate are very friendly and we took all the

1300
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: time on DM and she is just an absolute gem

1301
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: of a human and I'm so happy I got to

1302
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: share her with you. But if you love this episode,

1303
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: please take a screenshot and put on your stories and

1304
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: tag me and Kate and the podcast. I love sharing those.

1305
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: But thank you so much for the listen. But thank

1306
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: you so much for listening. I hope you have an

1307
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: amazing day or night whenever you are listening. And also, guys,

1308
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: as you know, we have a private Facebook group. If

1309
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: you like these sort of conversations and you want to

1310
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,840
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. Bye.