WEBVTT - Janis King: Tarot, Manifesting, Rituals, Empowerment 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.440 In jail, that kind of stuff. All of that, Oh wow, 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.680 happened to me being in jail. Okay, that's for another 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.720 but it was only for a few hours. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:10.920 Okay, well that's all right. You're okay. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:18.360 Michelle the Witch of Moon's Lane and Moira major. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:21.480 Kind of Witch Bitch. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.440 Welcome to another episode of Witch Bitch. Michelle the Witch 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:30.120 of Moon's Lane. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:31.800 Hey, Dylan, how are you very well? 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.600 Thank you? It's always better when I'm next to you. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:41.360 Is exhausting being so beautiful. Thank you must be Do 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.800 you need to lie down each day? It's like looking 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.839 in the mirrors. Now, before we get into today's episode, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.360 We've got my god, we had so many comments. We 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.560 need we need to hire a social media manager. I 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.200 think that's what we need because we had so many 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.520 comments and so many people contacting us in the last 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.160 little while. So great is Great on TikTok, Laura Alice, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:08.800 Danny l x, d Shay and mcquell on Instagram, GC Venom, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:13.880 Cosmically Connected, Iron keys eron Sorry Keys your Mum Productions, 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:19.119 Good Friends, mad Alice, I want. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:19.800 To meet mad Alie. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.640 I really feel like mad Alice needs to meet us 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:23.120 as well. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.199 Lots of comments as well. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.840 Some people have been asking his questions is actually one 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:33.360 about they just started the series, loving it, loving all 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.039 the episodes, but also said this is something that we 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.839 should actually do an episode on. Do you talk about 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.680 being a witch and a mother having your children growing 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.240 up in a witchy way of life? 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:45.959 How many little witches are there? 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.200 I have four kids. I wouldn't say they were all witchy. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.400 Probably two of them are witchy and the other two 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.040 were a bit bitchyesna have a gun? 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.760 Maybe would they come on an episode and talk about 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.240 what it's like having a witch for a mother, not 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:00.960 like as one. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.000 All right, well let's do that. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.000 Also, can you please write the mirror spell that you 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.959 started saying at eleven minutes fifty nine? 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.680 Please and thank you. I just look at what that 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.080 one is. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:16.000 I think that was the Glamours spell the vampires. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.280 Oh yes, I can. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.320 Go and look that one up because I've got a 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:20.400 couple of mirror spells. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:21.519 What am I do? Then? 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.480 How about we just do an episode on all the 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.200 different spells you can do from the mirror. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.200 Yeah, we'll put them up. Okay, cool? Do that. This 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.200 is a planning meeting as well as a podcast. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.840 This is unrelated, but I was wondering what am I 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.000 meant to do with perishable offerings? 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:41.240 Do I eat it so it doesn't go or do 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.000 I let it spoil and throw it out? 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.760 Actually that's a great question, Taylor. I'd bury it, okay, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:47.760 So just bury it. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:48.040 You know. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.760 The beautiful thing about a lot of the stuff is 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.279 it's seedlings. So all you're doing is you're regrounding, regrounding 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.839 your offering, and what does it do most of the time, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.160 will grow beautiful. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.839 Another quick question as well, if you've got a young carnationhorn, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.840 if you don't feel the vibrations from the sound, which 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.280 was the sound healing, does that mean that your sharkras 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:08.800 are blocked? 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.760 Could be yep, definitely Okay. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.640 The other thing too is maybe you might want to 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.160 look at putting them into your earphones and listening to 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.680 the sound again, or look at the fact that you 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.480 could actually go on to maybe Spotify and get that hurt. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.640 So the hurts that you want to look at is one, one, one, nine, six, three, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.240 four two eight. All of those are really good for 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.640 clearing charkras and for healing. Are the four two eight's 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.840 really good for your heart? So it's really good at 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:40.240 healing son any sort of thing. We're manifestation music with 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.680 those hurts really good. There's lots and lots of Spotify 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.040 tracks you can find on there for meditation, great to 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.360 do at night before you go to sleep. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:52.360 As well. You sounded really smart then with hurts and stuff. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.120 I was is it hurting you? I was actually listening 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:03.840 to you. It was I'm the fucking stars yet, hick bitch? 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.560 All right? Another one as well, Another one as well. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.200 Sing ah. This is from overseas. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.680 She's a baby witch and she's being bullied at work 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:16.359 by her boss. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.680 Oh it's not good, okay, fuck off spray. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.279 Yes, she's tried a return to send a spell and 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.080 spells to try and change how she feels about me 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.640 so far, but I've had no success. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.400 Okay. So this is really great because you can take 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.400 it to the office. So it's good about getting rid 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.159 of any negative energy. But funny enough, I had a. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.640 Lady that had exactly the same thing, really. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.279 And she tried everything, and she came in she bought 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.240 this fuck off spray, which says I bonish you now 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.720 from my site. Fuck off now into the night negativity, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.240 now leave my space. You are no welcome. You're no 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.680 longer welcome at my place. Fuck off. Now the magic 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.040 is done, the spell has cast. You better run, bring 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.320 me protection. So made it be? Come now, blessed be. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:55.920 This shit works. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:56.640 It's really good. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.440 I can actually be a test of the fact that 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.720 it works because it was actually sprayed in an office 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.880 in one of my jobs, and that person didn't last 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.000 very long after that particular no moment, I had a 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:12.520 lady coming. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.400 She was beside herself a similar thing. She's saying, I've 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.800 tried everything, said I'll give this a go. Anyway, they 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.839 resigned that week and she brought a friend in and 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.920 they just basically came in. We took about five off 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.880 the shelf. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.800 Where can people purchase their overseas for example? 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.760 Okay, so just go to my website moonslane dot com 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.480 dot au and it's definitely on there. And you've also 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.440 got the if you prefer it in candle form I have. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.560 But this is great too, Like if you're going to 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:39.960 stay at a friends or you're going to stay in 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.599 a hotel you don't know who's been there before, really 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:43.600 just gets rid of the energy. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.240 Yeah, all right, And also apparently as well, the same 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.640 person has said. The baby witch has said that there's 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.880 lots of stories that she has and also they had 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.560 an exorcism on their house. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:57.160 Oh I do I. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:02.279 Feel another episode come in doing a great planning meeting. Now, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.360 what we are actually going to, who we're talking to 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.760 today is a Janus king, and this is a tarot master, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.440 an author and a modern mystic with over twenty years 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.120 of experience helping people unlock their potential through taro. So 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.280 we're going to have a chat to her about all things. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.960 Taro is a good morning where you are? Hello, how 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:20.279 are you? 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.480 Yes, I'm very well. How lovely to meet you. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.320 We're very good. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.680 We have to disguise sadly here a UK at the moment, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.720 but we have daffodils. So if we have daffodils, then 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.760 everything must be going in the right direction. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.400 So tell us how does one become a tarot master? 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.320 You have to do your ten thousand dollars, I guess. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:49.479 So. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.880 Yeah, it's a time thing, isn't it. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.520 You know, you've just got to do good yards and 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.960 put in a lot of time and get the experience 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:05.440 because with all of this stuff, when we you know, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:11.360 you can't you can't become you know, seriously good at anything, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:16.760 really really quickly, because it does take time for not 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:21.040 only us to learn the language of Taro properly, but 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.880 it also takes a little bit of time for the 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.360 energy that we're working with to learn us, and that 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:35.040 takes ex gained experience on both sides. So you know, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.480 your your conversation with your debt develops over time and 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.640 becomes more insomate and more detailed as you work with it, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.080 and it works with you. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:47.880 It learns what. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:53.360 You you know, how you respond, and it'll go okay 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.480 when I do this, she does this, and it and 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.960 it becomes quite a familiar relationship. But that does take 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:02.800 a bit of time. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.480 I've been doing taro for forty years. Yeah, it's a 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:08.160 very long time. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.440 Yeah, And so it's something that you also it changes 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.800 with you and you change with it now with me. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.720 With me, it's very similar that you know, I'll get downloads, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.360 and when I'm saying downloads, I'll hear something or I'll 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.960 see something, and they often will use things that I 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.920 have experienced in my life. So it's interesting that you know, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.720 a lot of people that are doing this work have 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.960 had quite a lot of trauma in their lives. And 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.040 the reason being is because you had to go through 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.280 it to understand it so that spirit can use you 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.960 through the cards so that you can empathize with someone. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.600 There's nothing really that I haven't done. Like you know, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.040 when you go and do those crossovers of you. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.000 Know, one point, if you've shut a gun, you've been 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.120 in jail, that kind of. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.000 Stuff, all of that. Oh wow, happened to me being 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:53.439 in jail. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.680 Okay, that's for another But it was, but it was 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.839 only for a few hours. Okay, Well that's all right, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.760 you're okay, that's fine. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:00.920 And funny enough. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.520 It was in England. I got taken from the church. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.960 I god, that's another story. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:07.600 What happened. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.120 I got taken from the church. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.280 There was a nightclub. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.440 There was a massive brawl and I just accidentally in 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.320 the middle got taken down to the cop shop in 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.640 the back of the paddywagon and ended up there. And 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.040 then I had to explain myself. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:20.959 I thought, you. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.400 Actually meant church church, and then I like alder church. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.400 It was an old church. Could at tenned into a nightclub? 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.920 Oh, the Heathens took it over. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.800 Now, what's your advice channels for people who would like 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.600 to start learning about taro. You know, we've got a 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.400 lot of on our podcast. We deal with a lot 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.240 of baby witches all the way up to masters of 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.000 things like that as well. What's some advice for someone 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.560 who you know is drawn to taro and would like 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.080 to start using it. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:59.200 Yeah, well, you know, be humble and curious, I think 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.200 would be the two words that I would use. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.200 And I think Michelle is absolutely right. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.600 A lot of people that have myself included, like you, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.680 I have the experience also that there is almost nothing 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.640 my clients can show up with that I haven't experience. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.160 And it is interesting because I had a conversation with 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:25.480 another reader who said that her client base is completely 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.520 different to mine because her life experience is completely different 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:29.959 to mine. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.880 So she gets lots of readers who. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:40.840 Who who have experienced a certain thing, right, and I 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.600 don't tend to get those particular readers. And that doesn't 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.520 and both of our you know, client basis is rich 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:55.240 in experience, but hers has a differ slightly different flavor 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:55.760 to mine. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.600 And I think we get sent the clients. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:03.400 That we can best help, and that's really interesting. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:04.079 I think. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:09.560 So when you're learning understand that the that the energy 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.440 that is working through you needs to get to know 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:19.120 you as well as you get to know it. And 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.559 and it's and yeah, I mean, I yes, I guess 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.680 the two words I would I would say is humble 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.600 and curious, because curious is the is. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.040 The name of the game here. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.600 We need to be we need to be curious, pages 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:40.320 always learning, always wanting to, you know, to to be 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.760 open to to to what we're to what we're shown, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.280 and trying not to, you know, try not to sort 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.880 of have to make it a certain thing or a 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:57.080 certain experience. So I think if we can stay open 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.559 to whatever it is, that's that's going to be the 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.040 best way forward, because everybody's practiced. Michelle has said Also, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.560 it changes a MorphOS. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.600 Over the years. You know, it's not going to stay 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.560 the same. Where we start. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.240 Is not not where we where we we end up, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.959 you know, if we're going to do it seriously, it 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:24.800 changes as we change. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.880 Is there any type of Tarot deck that you prefer 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:28.640 to work with? 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.000 Well, I work with my deck. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.720 You've read your own deck? This is very cool? 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.440 Yeah, yeah, no, I have I have my I have 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.080 my own deck, which is this deck, which is a 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.839 very beaten up version. I have to say, so, I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.840 I learnt with right away, and because that's you know, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:54.480 industry standard, most people, not everybody, but most people start 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.800 to start with right away. And I had some issues 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.200 with it. It sounds awfully egotistical to say that, but I 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:07.480 had a few issues with with with I mean, no, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.559 I didn't have issues with it. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:14.760 That's wrong. I I like it. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.240 I don't like Right Awake at all. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.320 I don't like that deck. I started with it, but 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.600 I lasted probably three weeks, and I went to the 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.440 mythic terror because I just really fell in love with 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.240 the gods, the gods and the goddesses because it resonated 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.280 with me being witch. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.920 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's fair. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.440 I mean, I think the I think it's I think 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.280 it's genius in the fact that it's become the foundation 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.800 stough of all modern tarot, in its structure and in 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.640 its you know, in all of the symbolism that's packed 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.920 into every card. It's it's you know that it's its 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.560 genius job, absolutely phenomenal. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.960 But you know, as with as with all. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.920 Things it it it was it was like its a 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.640 hundred years ago, right, it was. It was it was 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.160 designed one hundred years ago for an audience of one 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.880 hundred years ago. And that's fine, and that's very interesting 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.600 and we can look at it. But now the reason 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:22.000 I did my debt, well that it wasn't because of 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.640 the Ride Awake, but it sort of brings it up 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.960 to date more and I wanted to make the energetic 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.400 communication more direct. So what I didn't want to do 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.040 is create a deck that just reinvented the wheel. I 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.800 didn't want to just remake images which just you know, 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.040 just just the same as ride a weight but but 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:49.200 you know, just different pictures. I didn't really want to 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:55.760 do that. I wanted to make it more understandable. So 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:04.200 so my my royals, my court cards are people that that. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.080 That it's very simple deck. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.040 But and I want to make the energy the leading point. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.320 So for me, the energy and the suits is absolutely fundamental. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.640 That's what I lead with all the time, the energy 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.720 in the suits. And so my queen, I'll show you 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.680 my Queen of Swords. She'll make you lous. So there's 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.760 my Queen of Swords. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:25.720 You can see she's. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:34.400 She's quite a feisty. She looks very independent, dependent, she's 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.480 very in charge. She's very it's all about the business, right, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.760 she wouldn't ask anyone's emotional position. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.640 No, I wouldn't ask her to do anything. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.120 That woman she can do whatever the hell she wants. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:53.480 So, so you know the the the I'll show you 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.200 my this is what. So I wanted to make the 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.720 imagery simple but relatable, so that that's the four of 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.720 pens for is a stabilization number in tarots. So this 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.240 is a guy who is literally holding on to a 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.640 safe is what he's doing. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.800 He's keeping safe. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:16.840 His money, his experience is in his life, so he 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.840 doesn't want to share. And that's for a myriad of 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.920 different reasons depending on the reading, obviously, but what he's 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:30.600 doing is his instinct is stay safe. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.720 So that Green's trying to hold on because he's Green 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.320 trying to keep his money. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.040 Your deck would be very different. Okay, my deck is different. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.000 I've got one coming out and I'm using quadrons instead 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.080 of cups. So I've done what you've done. Our channeled 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.240 a completely different deck and that's going to come out 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.640 next Yeah, it's all ready to go. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.040 Yeah, that's great and it's very exciting, isn't it Making 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:52.880 your own deck? 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.080 It really does take you into a whole other world. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.080 And you learn loads. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.680 I mean, you know, you everything sort of goes up 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.040 a level when you really go into it and really. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.080 Dig down as to what do I want to say 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.720 in this card? It's a fascinating process. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.680 Which is your most witchy card? 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.280 Which is my most witchy card? Do I have a 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.240 witchy I'm not sure I have a witchy card? I 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:25.520 mean the Queen of Sorts is fairly witchy. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.920 Do I have a witchy Do you know about the 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:28.720 High Precie? 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.320 So maybe maybe the Quin maybe the Queen of ones 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.480 in as much as that she's kind of fire and 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.199 she's very energetically powered. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.359 Yeah, she's kind of like the. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:47.480 Phoenix, isn't she Yeah, definitely powered by fire image, So 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.480 so yeah, maybe I would say maybe she's. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.320 My my witch most witchy card. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.400 Yeah, I mean the witch thing is is it's an 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.399 interesting thing because I when I I ceremony as well, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.160 I maybe don't term it. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.199 Witchcraft because for me, it. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.480 For me it's a label that with my particular clientele 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.880 and my students, it's you know, but that doesn't mean 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:23.920 that we don't use ceremony and we're not talking about 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:29.880 energy and about creating what we want to create. In 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.480 our lives and leaning into that energy and working with it. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.360 So you don't do it like the old pagan way, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.920 you would just work with the energy so the universe. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:39.400 So you're just. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.280 Working in bringing down manifesting through the universe as Yeah, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.200 which is another way of doing it where I do 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:46.080 it with the old. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.840 Gods, And yeah, absolutely, because I mean the way I 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.840 look at it is it's they're all roads lead to Rome, right, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:58.800 So there is there isn't one way of doing it. Energy, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.119 all energy, all potential exists. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.800 What who we choose. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.880 To connect with has to be right for us. So 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.000 we can work with old gods, we can work with energetic, 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.720 you know, beings or spiritual beings. We can we can 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.560 decide who we're going to have the conversation with and 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:24.720 who we think we best resonate with. And I think 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.920 that's fantastic. And what's great about Taro is it connects 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:32.160 us in whatever way we want to connect, right, And 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.720 that's I think that's that's awesome. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.479 Do you work with alien energy? I don't know. I 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:40.240 don't tend to. 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:45.560 I don't because I prefer the energetic realm rather than 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.360 I've been on quite a few podcasts that do paranormal 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:51.760 kind of alien stuff. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:57.520 It's not really my area, honestly, I would I would 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:58.960 rather work with. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:08.719 What I feel, should we say, connected into our realm, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.360 whether that be energetical, whatever that is, spiritual or whatever. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.920 I prefer to stay within the realm. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:22.080 Of our human connection, within our within our human, spiritual 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.840 and energetic dimension. 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.080 Okay, what about you, Michelle? 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.679 Oh me, Well, you, I just work with the I 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.800 work with the universe, but I also work with the gods, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.679 so I work with old gods as well. But to me, 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:42.720 it's like I also believe that the universe is more alien, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.160 so I do believe that I do actually work with 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.480 people that are from other places as well. So, for example, 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.080 angels are from another place, they're fallen angels, they're alien 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.720 to us, and therefore that to me is still working 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:57.680 with aliens. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:02.720 Besides that, I think I'm one. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.760 I didn't expect to see here that Yeah, yeah, we 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:13.000 know you're we know you're very unique and very special, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.440 But I don't know if you could really say you're 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:16.000 an alien. 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:17.720 I think we all are. I think we all came 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:18.240 from Mars. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:19.760 Well technically aren't we aliens? 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.959 You think about it, NA, our DNA is made up 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.000 of star dust, and star dust is planets, and planets 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:27.720 are aliens, so therefore we are alien. 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:33.600