Speaker 1: Chris Jenny, Hello, Christian O'Connell Show podcast. If you can
Speaker 1: hear this, this is young Jack, right, who's just coming
Speaker 1: to studio twelve year old Chap to take on Jack
Speaker 1: in his first ever game of chess. As I showed
Speaker 1: him into the studio, he saw there was a Rubik's
Speaker 1: Cube on a shelf here right, that none of us
Speaker 1: have been able to do. He goes, do you wonder
Speaker 1: if I complete that? I think we've got some sort of.
Speaker 2: Boy gen.
Speaker 3: Jack.
Speaker 2: Can we interrupt you for a moment during the Ruby
Speaker 2: Cube just to chat?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Yeah, hey, Jack, thank you very much
Speaker 1: for coming in this morning. So you're going to be
Speaker 1: taken on Jack in about ten minutes time at a
Speaker 1: game of chess. How long have you been playing chess? Jack?
Speaker 2: A couple of years?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Who taught you?
Speaker 2: Pop?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And you beat Dad? Now you're that good. If
Speaker 1: you've overtaken has the Jedi overtaken the Master?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And how do you think you're going to take
Speaker 1: on Jack post?
Speaker 2: Well, I've got a couple of advantages. He's never played
Speaker 2: a game in real life, and well I already.
Speaker 4: Know what he's going to do.
Speaker 1: So what do you mean.
Speaker 2: Hold everyone on the radio because I told you. He
Speaker 2: told me this outside, because I said what my user
Speaker 2: name on chess dot COMAP was. He went and looked
Speaker 2: at you can look at everybody's game. He looked at
Speaker 2: all my opening moves.
Speaker 1: And did you when you saw that, did you think,
Speaker 1: actually this is going to be even easier than I thought?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah? All right, okay, so Jack is only very
Speaker 1: good when he's the first person starting it.
Speaker 2: I like to play with. Why what do you like
Speaker 2: to play with? I can play either, but ambidexterous?
Speaker 1: Are you going to take it easy on him? Or
Speaker 1: you're going to try and beat him as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: I love the that you. I'm kind of in the way,
Speaker 1: aren't I? With these questions? You just want to do
Speaker 1: that Ruby sco And.
Speaker 2: You just finished the roo.
Speaker 1: He's just done the rub that has been undone in
Speaker 1: about two years in the studio. He's done it a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes. And you started up a chess club at school. I,
Speaker 1: when I was your age, started a chess club at
Speaker 1: school and no one came, so I folded it. No one,
Speaker 1: No one came. There was a teacher who saw me
Speaker 1: in there by myself, sat down at chessboard, felt sorry
Speaker 1: for me, came in, played chess with me, beat me,
Speaker 1: and after that I never played chess again. So that's
Speaker 1: because have you got mates that turn out? What is
Speaker 1: it once a week at school? It's every Monday, every Monday,
Speaker 1: chess cub. And I think you are so relaxed, aren't you? Jack?
Speaker 1: I'm not Jack is not. Okay, you two look each
Speaker 1: other in the eye and say good luck. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we will have the coin toss. Okay. We
Speaker 1: have an independent adjudicator called Hartley Shawcross. Are you guys
Speaker 1: familiar with him in chess circles? Okay? I think it's
Speaker 1: a made up name, Hartley short Cross. He sounds like
Speaker 1: an eighties detective is going to come here. Here be
Speaker 1: the umpire. You've got it, the umpiring you need up.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you just have the person that starts your
Speaker 2: clocks at start. Oh we don't do that ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well no, well you can, but he's now running the show.
Speaker 1: You basically run the next half an hour every best
Speaker 1: for all of us. Okay, all right, you two look
Speaker 1: each other night and say good luck.
Speaker 2: Good luck, Jack, honestly, good Black, sweet thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's on next the Christian O'Connell show podcast. There's
Speaker 1: too many microphones. Jack Post has two microphones. He's got
Speaker 1: as normal one I turn on to do the show
Speaker 1: with him. Then I've got another one that's is titled
Speaker 1: at my very state of the art studio desk. Here
Speaker 1: Chest Jack Chess test test.
Speaker 3: There is chest Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a completely different Jack, Chest Jack. All right,
Speaker 1: what is about to happen? Then it is a chess
Speaker 1: game on the radio. His challenger is just yawned, just now.
Speaker 1: He's so relaxed. That is also called Jack, Young Jack,
Speaker 1: twelve year old Jack. You're ready, my friend? Yeah. Also
Speaker 1: presiding over this was a man with an amazing name, Hartley,
Speaker 1: Show Cross Hartley. You happy with everything the way it's
Speaker 1: been configured and set up? So far?
Speaker 3: Everything looks great here? Yep, absolutely and hardly in a minute.
Speaker 1: I'm going You've got a coin there to do the
Speaker 1: coin toss to decide who goes first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so put the coin.
Speaker 2: I'll call tails.
Speaker 3: It's it's heads.
Speaker 2: Is Young Jack automatically white or does he get to choose?
Speaker 3: So he yeah, he gets to choose.
Speaker 5: And but you know, look at this configuration I'm assuming
Speaker 5: Jack wants to be black.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be? Young Jack?
Speaker 4: You what?
Speaker 2: All right, let's put the water around there.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're gonna flip a blow around. They're playing their
Speaker 1: opening music, Hello and Corner.
Speaker 4: Standing six foot four and whang in at eighty five
Speaker 4: kilograms thirty three years waves loveless, Lock up your bonns.
Speaker 1: It's the King Killer of Cobourg.
Speaker 4: He'll give you the scares on all sixty four squares.
Speaker 4: Playing online under the pseudonym Greg Internet. It's j.
Speaker 1: Give up Jack Post, a local favorite. Jack Posts will
Speaker 1: take on. Let's meet his young contender.
Speaker 4: He love Corner. Standing at four foot six, I'm weighing
Speaker 4: in at forty five kilograms of age. He's the boy
Speaker 4: Wonder from Delada.
Speaker 1: He remains uneating any school chess club.
Speaker 4: It's a preteen from Dorian. It's Jack All attack to
Speaker 4: a park mill.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, we're about to get underway here. Chess fans
Speaker 1: all over the world tune in for this amazing game.
Speaker 1: They are playing for this beautiful trophy, the Chess Club
Speaker 1: Champion twenty twenty one. Check that out, guys. Nope, they've
Speaker 1: got their company bother to look at me. All eyes
Speaker 1: are on the board. We're talking. Must stop now hardly
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 5: Next' So I will I'll start the clock. Please, I'll
Speaker 5: just I'll just actually just get Jack to do it, because.
Speaker 1: So I just hit this button.
Speaker 2: Ne'll start Jack's clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's out the clock yet.
Speaker 2: All right we get ten minutes each on the clock.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit yeah, it's a bit nuts.
Speaker 2: But yep, alright, good luck young Jack your hand first.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: It's like three two one, let's chess boy, Chess.
Speaker 3: On the radio.
Speaker 1: Okay if you commentate.
Speaker 5: So the has been moved by young playing.
Speaker 1: Long at home, hopefully drawn out of Chess boar classic opening.
Speaker 3: It's just the kids pawn opening.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So the Scandinavian very you know, Jack knew it.
Speaker 1: Scandinavian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, straight to Europe and now I'm pretty I'm pretty
Speaker 5: I'm pretty lost already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you from Melbourne chess clunt. I mean
Speaker 1: I could have done. I've got a good all this
Speaker 1: for Hartley.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, so this is it's just it's just the
Speaker 5: opening stage F three is a bit strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that all the time. Jams on my keyboard.
Speaker 1: I've told about it. No, no, no, by Jack, I.
Speaker 3: Mean Jack who played their three? Just Jack one? Jack
Speaker 3: two or just Jack?
Speaker 1: Should they have taken a couple of pieces by now?
Speaker 3: It's it's it's going very.
Speaker 2: I am attacking, Christian, I repeat, I am attacking.
Speaker 3: He's not hardy.
Speaker 1: Can you confirm? Is he a? Is Jack playing more
Speaker 1: aggressively and better than you thought so far?
Speaker 5: This is it's that well, they both got knights on
Speaker 5: pre only French words, I know a chess related French words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been a side details for all of
Speaker 1: us this morning, I know, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like opposite. That's a good another French word.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, if we could focus on the chests. That's
Speaker 1: you come from Melbourne French Club as well, you run
Speaker 1: two clubs there.
Speaker 2: I'm actually in trouble here.
Speaker 1: Seventeen hours a week.
Speaker 2: I think I'll capture my first piece.
Speaker 3: Yea take that last night? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, now at the moment we've had silence from young Jack.
Speaker 1: Young Jack is just a picture of concentration and zen
Speaker 1: the board.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's we've both captured the same night
Speaker 2: on opposing side.
Speaker 1: It's a night off, Young Jack. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: right now? You're happy with your move so far?
Speaker 3: I would like to play differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've shook him.
Speaker 1: And when we come back we see how they're doing. Hello,
Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell show podcast, Jack Post, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm in a terrible position, is the easiest thing to say.
Speaker 2: My king is out in front of all my dangerous
Speaker 2: pieces and hardly you know that that's a bad position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you, you're in quite a bit of trouble.
Speaker 3: He's just powering through. It's just pressure, pressure, pressure.
Speaker 1: It's not the d's right now, young Jack.
Speaker 2: Is like the d's in football terms. How far down?
Speaker 5: I so like to put it in perspective for everyone.
Speaker 5: You were what you would say, be up by seven goals.
Speaker 5: You would have been up by seven goals with fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes left to go in the final term, and you're
Speaker 5: now down by five goals.
Speaker 1: Big last quarter and utter silence. Right now you just
Speaker 1: listen to the voice of Hartley Shortcross from Melbourne chess cub.
Speaker 1: Young Jack, how are you doing right now? You're happy?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy.
Speaker 2: I've got him in a solid position. Well, he's already
Speaker 2: put me in check three times, and so three times
Speaker 2: have you put him in once in check?
Speaker 1: No, Jack has to have been playing chess for three months,
Speaker 1: eventeen hours a week to get in this position where
Speaker 1: within four minutes it's almost over.
Speaker 2: So I'm moving down to check now, but I feel vulnerable.
Speaker 3: You look like you're in trouble man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the official chess tam when they say you
Speaker 1: look like you're in trouble man. That was the catchphrase,
Speaker 1: of course of caspro chess fans all over the world.
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is not great.
Speaker 2: Hardly, Am I correct incident?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You're right, it's right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Oh no, my young opponent, twelve year old Jack, I
Speaker 2: believe with this queen move?
Speaker 3: Oh no, is that check man's check mate?
Speaker 1: Can I just say something I don't like? What'sating right now?
Speaker 1: Two grown up men are laughing about one of them
Speaker 1: beating a twelve year old boy. Shame on you, Jack,
Speaker 1: post But.
Speaker 2: What a comeback. I was, so, I was Jack, great game, great.
Speaker 1: Game, Ugly scenes here, ugly scenes.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that because I saw the checkmate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking to what's happened, young Jack? What happened? What happened?
Speaker 1: What happened, Jack, take me through it. You had it all.
Speaker 3: You had him on the ropes.
Speaker 5: I was trying if he didn't move that rock down,
Speaker 5: I would have had imagined one move to move him
Speaker 5: off there, and Chick made him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were way ahead. He honestly did have me
Speaker 2: on the ropes, and then you slipped up. I'm always
Speaker 2: looking for a weakness.
Speaker 4: I do not like this.
Speaker 1: I don't like winning, Jack post.
Speaker 2: Oh great game though, Jack. I don't want to celebrate
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: But you have already face shame on you. You're thirty two, man,
Speaker 1: have a look in the mirror when you get home.
Speaker 1: How are you thirty three? Hey, young Jack, don't be disappointed.
Speaker 1: I know what you did. You just something very nice.
Speaker 1: You let the older guy win.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what you do with relatives sometimes Christmas time.
Speaker 1: You don't want tears. You care about the wrestler show
Speaker 1: what he is going to be like? Well done. I
Speaker 1: know what you did. You could have easily polished him
Speaker 1: off that show is just what a young gentleman you are.
Speaker 1: You let Jackie boy win good like at school to
Speaker 1: day mate, patronizing sign that was reminded he's going to
Speaker 1: go to school.
Speaker 3: I don't like this, Jack, So do I have to
Speaker 3: give this to Jack? Then?
Speaker 1: I'm afraid you have to give it to Jack Post. Yeah,
Speaker 1: heartly handed over.
Speaker 3: It's gonna you probably just need to like put a
Speaker 3: bit of stuff on it first. Anyway, there you go.
Speaker 1: Jack is actually holding it by I said, like he's
Speaker 1: on the winner's podium at the Tokyo Olympics, clinging for
Speaker 1: me to it in the red bandana.
Speaker 2: Winner, Jack Post, this means so much to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can tell you can hold hey, young Jack,
Speaker 1: thank you? Hey, you don't you did? You did great today? Okay?
Speaker 1: I think maybe like you know, all the cameras lights
Speaker 1: also put you off to Okay, but you were brilliant.
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy coming in this morning? I definitely? Are
Speaker 1: you really annoyed that he won? Yeah, it's not nice
Speaker 1: seeing it like this.
Speaker 3: Is at the advantages before you even went in and
Speaker 3: I just blew it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't blow anything. You did brilliant. Okay, you
Speaker 1: did great because he was ahead you and not. I
Speaker 1: gonna have a word, all right, Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: young Jack. You're brilliant. Okay, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: coming in. I don't like this, okay, The Christian O'Connell
Speaker 1: Show podcast