WEBVTT - MINI: Chess Match

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenny, Hello, Christian O'Connell Show podcast. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, this is young Jack, right, who's just coming

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<v Speaker 1>to studio twelve year old Chap to take on Jack

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<v Speaker 1>in his first ever game of chess. As I showed

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<v Speaker 1>him into the studio, he saw there was a Rubik's

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<v Speaker 1>Cube on a shelf here right, that none of us

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to do. He goes, do you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if I complete that? I think we've got some sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy gen.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we interrupt you for a moment during the Ruby

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<v Speaker 2>Cube just to chat?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Yeah? Yeah, hey, Jack, thank you very much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming in this morning. So you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>taken on Jack in about ten minutes time at a

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<v Speaker 1>game of chess. How long have you been playing chess? Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Who taught you?

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<v Speaker 2>Pop?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And you beat Dad? Now you're that good. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've overtaken has the Jedi overtaken the Master?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And how do you think you're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>on Jack post?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got a couple of advantages. He's never played

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<v Speaker 2>a game in real life, and well I already.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what he's going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold everyone on the radio because I told you. He

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<v Speaker 2>told me this outside, because I said what my user

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<v Speaker 2>name on chess dot COMAP was. He went and looked

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<v Speaker 2>at you can look at everybody's game. He looked at

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<v Speaker 2>all my opening moves.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you when you saw that, did you think,

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<v Speaker 1>actually this is going to be even easier than I thought?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah? All right, okay, so Jack is only very

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<v Speaker 1>good when he's the first person starting it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to play with. Why what do you like

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<v Speaker 2>to play with? I can play either, but ambidexterous?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to take it easy on him? Or

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to try and beat him as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the that you. I'm kind of in the way,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't I? With these questions? You just want to do

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<v Speaker 1>that Ruby sco And.

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<v Speaker 2>You just finished the roo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just done the rub that has been undone in

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<v Speaker 1>about two years in the studio. He's done it a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes. And you started up a chess club at school. I,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was your age, started a chess club at

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<v Speaker 1>school and no one came, so I folded it. No one,

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<v Speaker 1>No one came. There was a teacher who saw me

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<v Speaker 1>in there by myself, sat down at chessboard, felt sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for me, came in, played chess with me, beat me,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that I never played chess again. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>because have you got mates that turn out? What is

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<v Speaker 1>it once a week at school? It's every Monday, every Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>chess cub. And I think you are so relaxed, aren't you? Jack?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Jack is not. Okay, you two look each

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<v Speaker 1>other in the eye and say good luck. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, we will have the coin toss. Okay. We

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<v Speaker 1>have an independent adjudicator called Hartley Shawcross. Are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with him in chess circles? Okay? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a made up name, Hartley short Cross. He sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>an eighties detective is going to come here. Here be

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<v Speaker 1>the umpire. You've got it, the umpiring you need up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, you just have the person that starts your

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<v Speaker 2>clocks at start. Oh we don't do that ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, well you can, but he's now running the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You basically run the next half an hour every best

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. Okay, all right, you two look

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<v Speaker 1>each other night and say good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck, Jack, honestly, good Black, sweet thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's on next the Christian O'Connell show podcast. There's

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<v Speaker 1>too many microphones. Jack Post has two microphones. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>as normal one I turn on to do the show

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Then I've got another one that's is titled

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<v Speaker 1>at my very state of the art studio desk. Here

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<v Speaker 1>Chest Jack Chess test test.

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<v Speaker 3>There is chest Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's a completely different Jack, Chest Jack. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is about to happen? Then it is a chess

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<v Speaker 1>game on the radio. His challenger is just yawned, just now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so relaxed. That is also called Jack, Young Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve year old Jack. You're ready, my friend? Yeah. Also

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<v Speaker 1>presiding over this was a man with an amazing name, Hartley,

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<v Speaker 1>Show Cross Hartley. You happy with everything the way it's

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<v Speaker 1>been configured and set up? So far?

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<v Speaker 3>Everything looks great here? Yep, absolutely and hardly in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going You've got a coin there to do the

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<v Speaker 1>coin toss to decide who goes first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so put the coin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll call tails.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Young Jack automatically white or does he get to choose?

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<v Speaker 3>So he yeah, he gets to choose.

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<v Speaker 5>And but you know, look at this configuration I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 5>Jack wants to be black.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to be? Young Jack?

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<v Speaker 4>You what?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's put the water around there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're gonna flip a blow around. They're playing their

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<v Speaker 1>opening music, Hello and Corner.

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<v Speaker 4>Standing six foot four and whang in at eighty five

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<v Speaker 4>kilograms thirty three years waves loveless, Lock up your bonns.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the King Killer of Cobourg.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll give you the scares on all sixty four squares.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing online under the pseudonym Greg Internet. It's j.

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<v Speaker 1>Give up Jack Post, a local favorite. Jack Posts will

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<v Speaker 1>take on. Let's meet his young contender.

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<v Speaker 4>He love Corner. Standing at four foot six, I'm weighing

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<v Speaker 4>in at forty five kilograms of age. He's the boy

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<v Speaker 4>Wonder from Delada.

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<v Speaker 1>He remains uneating any school chess club.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a preteen from Dorian. It's Jack All attack to

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<v Speaker 4>a park mill.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, okay, we're about to get underway here. Chess fans

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world tune in for this amazing game.

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<v Speaker 1>They are playing for this beautiful trophy, the Chess Club

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<v Speaker 1>Champion twenty twenty one. Check that out, guys. Nope, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got their company bother to look at me. All eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are on the board. We're talking. Must stop now hardly

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<v Speaker 1>what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>Next' So I will I'll start the clock. Please, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>just I'll just actually just get Jack to do it, because.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just hit this button.

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<v Speaker 2>Ne'll start Jack's clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's out the clock yet.

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<v Speaker 2>All right we get ten minutes each on the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a bit yeah, it's a bit nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>But yep, alright, good luck young Jack your hand first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like three two one, let's chess boy, Chess.

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<v Speaker 3>On the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay if you commentate.

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<v Speaker 5>So the has been moved by young playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Long at home, hopefully drawn out of Chess boar classic opening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the kids pawn opening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Scandinavian very you know, Jack knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Scandinavian.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, straight to Europe and now I'm pretty I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty lost already.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought you from Melbourne chess clunt. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I could have done. I've got a good all this

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<v Speaker 1>for Hartley.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yep, so this is it's just it's just the

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<v Speaker 5>opening stage F three is a bit strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found that all the time. Jams on my keyboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told about it. No, no, no, by Jack, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean Jack who played their three? Just Jack one? Jack

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<v Speaker 3>two or just Jack?

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<v Speaker 1>Should they have taken a couple of pieces by now?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's going very.

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<v Speaker 2>I am attacking, Christian, I repeat, I am attacking.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not hardy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you confirm? Is he a? Is Jack playing more

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively and better than you thought so far?

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<v Speaker 5>This is it's that well, they both got knights on

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<v Speaker 5>pre only French words, I know a chess related French words.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's been a side details for all of

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<v Speaker 1>us this morning, I know, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like opposite. That's a good another French word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, if we could focus on the chests. That's

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<v Speaker 1>you come from Melbourne French Club as well, you run

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<v Speaker 1>two clubs there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually in trouble here.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen hours a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll capture my first piece.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea take that last night? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, now at the moment we've had silence from young Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Young Jack is just a picture of concentration and zen

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<v Speaker 1>the board.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's we've both captured the same night

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<v Speaker 2>on opposing side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a night off, Young Jack. How are you feeling

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<v Speaker 1>right now? You're happy with your move so far?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to play differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I've shook him.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we come back we see how they're doing. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian O'Connell show podcast, Jack Post, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a terrible position, is the easiest thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>My king is out in front of all my dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>pieces and hardly you know that that's a bad position.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you, you're in quite a bit of trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just powering through. It's just pressure, pressure, pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the d's right now, young Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like the d's in football terms. How far down?

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<v Speaker 5>I so like to put it in perspective for everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>You were what you would say, be up by seven goals.

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<v Speaker 5>You would have been up by seven goals with fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>minutes left to go in the final term, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>now down by five goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Big last quarter and utter silence. Right now you just

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the voice of Hartley Shortcross from Melbourne chess cub.

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<v Speaker 1>Young Jack, how are you doing right now? You're happy?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got him in a solid position. Well, he's already

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<v Speaker 2>put me in check three times, and so three times

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<v Speaker 2>have you put him in once in check?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Jack has to have been playing chess for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>eventeen hours a week to get in this position where

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<v Speaker 1>within four minutes it's almost over.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm moving down to check now, but I feel vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 3>You look like you're in trouble man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the official chess tam when they say you

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<v Speaker 1>look like you're in trouble man. That was the catchphrase,

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<v Speaker 1>of course of caspro chess fans all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, this is not great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hardly, Am I correct incident?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, it's right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, my young opponent, twelve year old Jack, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe with this queen move?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, is that check man's check mate?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say something I don't like? What'sating right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Two grown up men are laughing about one of them

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<v Speaker 1>beating a twelve year old boy. Shame on you, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>post But.

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<v Speaker 2>What a comeback. I was, so, I was Jack, great game, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Game, Ugly scenes here, ugly scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that because I saw the checkmate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talking to what's happened, young Jack? What happened? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened, Jack, take me through it. You had it all.

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<v Speaker 3>You had him on the ropes.

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying if he didn't move that rock down,

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<v Speaker 5>I would have had imagined one move to move him

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<v Speaker 5>off there, and Chick made him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were way ahead. He honestly did have me

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<v Speaker 2>on the ropes, and then you slipped up. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a weakness.

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<v Speaker 4>I do not like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like winning, Jack post.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great game though, Jack. I don't want to celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have already face shame on you. You're thirty two, man,

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<v Speaker 1>have a look in the mirror when you get home.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you thirty three? Hey, young Jack, don't be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you did. You just something very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You let the older guy win.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's what you do with relatives sometimes Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want tears. You care about the wrestler show

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<v Speaker 1>what he is going to be like? Well done. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you did. You could have easily polished him

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<v Speaker 1>off that show is just what a young gentleman you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You let Jackie boy win good like at school to

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<v Speaker 1>day mate, patronizing sign that was reminded he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to school.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this, Jack, So do I have to

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<v Speaker 3>give this to Jack? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid you have to give it to Jack Post. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>heartly handed over.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna you probably just need to like put a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of stuff on it first. Anyway, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack is actually holding it by I said, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the winner's podium at the Tokyo Olympics, clinging for

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<v Speaker 1>me to it in the red bandana.

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<v Speaker 2>Winner, Jack Post, this means so much to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can tell you can hold hey, young Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? Hey, you don't you did? You did great today? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe like you know, all the cameras lights

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<v Speaker 1>also put you off to Okay, but you were brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you enjoy coming in this morning? I definitely? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you really annoyed that he won? Yeah, it's not nice

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is at the advantages before you even went in and

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<v Speaker 3>I just blew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you didn't blow anything. You did brilliant. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>did great because he was ahead you and not. I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a word, all right, Thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 1>young Jack. You're brilliant. Okay, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. I don't like this, okay, The Christian O'Connell

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