1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: We quite often on this show gets contacted by listeners 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: pretty concerned about bad behavior from neighbors. Now, my next 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: guest is one listener who's contacted a public housing provider 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: on several occasions, but concerns about concerns in Woodroffe. And 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: she's speaking out because quite frankly, she's fed up with 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: it falling on deaf ears. Her name's Robbie. She joins 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: me on the line. Right now, get a Robbie. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Katie, how are you? 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: You're really good, lovely to have you on the show now, 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: thank you, Robbie. I understand that you've been dealing with 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: bad tenants next door for some time. Now, can you 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: tell us about what some of some of what's being 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: experienced and what kind of impact it's having. 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Well, I mean basically we've been dealing with bad tenants 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: now for fourteen years. 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a long time, Robbie, that's a bloody long time. 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Three lots of different bad tenants. So I think we've 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: got a bit of you know, CBTs, chronic bad tenant syndrome. 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: We've we just set up. We don't even know what 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: to do. We're at our weekend, we have it's been 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: years of constant reporting to police, to housing territory, families, 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: local members, now you guys as well, and it just all, 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: like you said, seems to fall on death is nobody 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: wants to know about it. Everyone just sort of goes, oh, yes, ess, 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: we're investigating it, we're looking we're looking into it, we're 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: looking for a solution. But nothing happens. So they just 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: tell us what we want to hear and then they, 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, hang up on us or shut the door 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: or whatever. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Nothing changes. Now we won't name the service provider. I 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: mean we probably can if we want to, but essentially 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: it's a community housing provider that manages the house next door. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: But really, you know, the manage of management of it, 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I would argue, isn't happening real? Well, if you've got 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: a situation where there is food waste being left around, 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: there's fighting, there's yelling, there is bad behavior, there's damage 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: to the property, all sorts of things, things being thrown 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: into your yard. 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Yes, Actually, as a spanner came over our fence on 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: Monday afternoon, you're joking, no, And so I went and 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: spoke to the kids who did it, and I said, 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: what if you hit one of our dogs or I 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: could have been driving my car in right when that 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: came over the fence, and they know, they didn't care, 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, it didn't mean anything to them, but you know, 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: and the thing was this. You know, while it is 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: a non government organization that is providing the property management, 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: it ultimately is funded by the government, I'm assuming, and 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: there's the amount of tax pay money that's being wasted 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: on this property and would be one of many I 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: would imagine propertyless situation. I know for a fact that 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: the last there's been two full referves since we've been 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: in the last fourteen years. The last one I know 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: cost upward to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow, 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: and it is now trashed again, way in the space 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: of ten months. It's an absolute Yeah. Yeah, it's disgraceful. 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: We can't even sit on our balcony because I don't 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: want to look into that yard. 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. That is not good. And you know, 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: by the sounds of it, you and your husband are 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: feeling pretty helpless. So I mean, you guys have sent 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: me quite like a number of emails or ccb into 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: some of those emails, and I appreciate it because I 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: think that. It actually gives me and it gives others 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: some context into the ongoing relentless bad behavior that's being experienced, 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Like what's been the feedback from that housing provider, but 67 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: also from the local member, from the government everybody, okay. 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: From the housing provider is pretty much niga. It's pretty 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: much nothing. It's nothing. There's no action taking it all. 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: There's been nothing done that. There's the odd they'll see 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: they'll put a few bags of rubbish in a ute 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: and maybe take them to the tip. Maybe sometimes it's 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 2: like oh that they must have got a phone call, 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: but that's the extent of it. Really. I think they've 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: attended the property perhaps early in when we started complaining 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: at Chris just after Christmas time about these particular tenants. 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: So they've basically done zero nothing. Local Member Matchikel. He's 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: been helpful, but I think his hands are tied as 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: well by the legislation and various things about the difficulty 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: in moving tenants on currently it's very difficult to do that. 81 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: But he did also advise us, you know, there's thousands 82 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: of thousands of great, hard working families who would love 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: a home. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, you know, you're the. 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: Ones that are in there at the moment. They just 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: don't they don't care about anything. They now have chicks 87 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: in the house. 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even know what to say, Robbie, because 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: I'd be beside myself if they were next door. And 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: also though you know, every time the family moves out, 91 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: or every time someone moves out, you'd be worried about 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: who's going to move in next? 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Yes, well we are now and then it just seems 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: to be going from bad to work. Yeah, and so 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: probably I don't. 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Know, like I know that I know it's managed by 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: a housing provider, right, but as we've discussed ultimately, I 98 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: would imagine that it's been that they're being funded by 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government or the federal government. What is 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: your message for the government, you know, with this house 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: next door, but also you know, to anybody living next 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: door to problem public housing tenants or those that are 103 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: actually managed by you know, by a social housing organization 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and not doing the right thing. 105 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the message is can people 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: start doing their job? And there is expectations, you know, 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: as a member of a you know, a community, a 108 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: neighborhood to have some respect for not only your own property, 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: but for the people who live around you. And that's 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: just lacking and there's there's no consequence. Is the other 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: thing that absolutely blow their mind is that they do 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: They destroy, destroy windows, they destroy clotheslines, they destroy gates, 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: they destroy I hate to think what the inside of 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: their house looks like. But there's no consequences, so they 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: just keep doing whatever they're doing, which is unfair on 116 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, other renters, give an unleveled playing field, because 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean, anyone who's renting from elders or elder hooker, 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: you treat the property like that you're not going to 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: be in it for very long, yeah, and you're going 120 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: to get a big bill. 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, Robbie, the other part of it 122 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: is these like a nine year wait list or nine years, 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, like people are on that public housing wait 124 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: list for up to nine years. You know, we're talking 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: then people with disabilities, you're talking seniors. You're talking families 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: that are in need having to wait while others are 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: in homes and not looking after them exactly. 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: And it's just you know, and I don't know who. 129 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: No one seems to want to take responsibility for this 130 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: issue at all everyone just put pass the bucks onto 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: this from the next person, or just ignore it, pretend 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: it's not happening. But it is because it's happening to us. Yeah, 133 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's quality of life is you 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: know important. We're just a normal, hard working family, but 135 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: we feel uncomfortable in our own home a lot of 136 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: the time, waiting to see what are they going to 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: do next? 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Robbie, it sucks. That absolutely sucks. I'd be furious, 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: look the bit. I mean, all I can do is 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: raise it and try my best to put a bit 141 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: of a spotlight on it and hope that it embarrasses 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: someone into doing something, you know, and we'll continue to 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: do that. So please continue to keep me up to 144 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: date with what's going on, and keep you know, like, 145 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: if there is any progress, let me know. Yeah, because 146 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, I get in turn, like if someone's doing 147 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: a good job and they do bloody sorted out, I 148 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: think excellent. I'm happy to scream it from the rooftops. 149 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know. Yeah, I mean we can't even sell. 150 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: We're trapped basically. 151 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband was advised that we'd probably lose two 153 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: hundred K if we try to sell it, it would 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: actually be wed, so we can't sell it. And we've 155 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: we's just going to stay there and just and it 156 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: seems that we just have to put up with it, 157 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: which is not not right. 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: That is not Yeah, it's just not on. Robbie. I 159 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: really appreciate you having a chat with me this morning. 160 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Let's stay in touch. I'll talk to you soon. 161 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks, thank you anytime. 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Robbie. 163 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Thanks