WEBVTT - Ed Oxenbould: IRREVERENT - ACTOR 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.360 TV Reload, the podcast last Pekoline. Welcome back guys to 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.960 TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris and on this 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.760 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.400 in television. Each episode you will get a front row 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.560 seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.520 casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.759 TV reloads the shows that we are all currently watching 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.680 and gives you a better insight into our television industry 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.639 and our streaming services. Today. On the podcast, I have 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.920 an Australian actor, ed Oxenbold, who is here to discuss 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.520 his latest Netflix series, The Irreverant, which drops this Sunday 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.960 in Australia. The Irreverant tells the story of a criminal 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.040 from Chicago who is forced to hide here in Australia 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.199 in a small reef town posing as the new church reverend. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.200 This is a comedy drama which packs a massive punch 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.280 with an outstanding cast which includes one of my favorite 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.600 Australian actors, Ed Oxenbold, who shot to fame in the 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.400 TV series Puberty Blues. He has then gone on to 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.000 star in a string of American movie playing alongside the 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.640 likes of Maggie and Jake Gillenhal. He has worked with 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.520 Paul Dano and m Knight Shamaline, which is just some 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.760 of his achievements which we will get a chance to 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.400 unpack a little of today. I will ask ed about 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.640 puberty blues rumors and where they came from, what kind 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.920 of preparation does a kid do before acting in a 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.120 horror movie with m Night Shamaline, plus some great insights 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.120 into his latest project, Irreverent. However, let's get started with 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.000 today's episode. I'd like to welcome ed Oxenbolt to TV Reload. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.920 So I started this room, I'm hoping that it would 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.800 maybe work. Start looking for God to give you something 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.880 and go take it. As soon as I've done out 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.960 that I had the role mean Mum Watch and sixth Sense, 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.360 and it did scare me. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.679 That ability to forgive is what makes this whole thing work. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.080 Paul Dana I really, I really idolize his career. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:50.120 He should be careful. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.200 People might actually start. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:52.400 To like you. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.080 It was just very different to anything I'd played before. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.120 You don't have a family who's there to stop you 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:57.800 from sinking. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.640 It's showing Americans how interesting unique side of Australia. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.960 Hi, Ed, how are you going? Thanks for joining the podcast. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:07.920 No Worries, Thanks for having me on. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:09.960 Well, this is so exciting to have this chat with 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.320 you because I'm actually a really big fan of your work. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.600 Oh, thank you very much. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.240 It sounds really strange to say that to you, because 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.200 you know, you were so young when we first all 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.800 you became like a household name here in Australia with 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:27.440 Puberty Blues, but that role was just so amazing. Anyway, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.120 it's strange to be a big fan of a child. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.520 It is. It's a very interesting thing. I'm kind of 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.680 still coming to terms with the fact that I'm not 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.760 a child, despite the fact that I still get cast 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.799 as children and I still look like a child. It's 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.000 weird to think that I actually I am an adult 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.280 and there's no dirting back. It's an interesting kind of thing, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.560 making that transition from child actor to just actor. But 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.440 there's nothing kind of special about you then. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.280 You know, it was interesting with Puberty Blues because you know, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.120 I kept thinking, how does a kid pull off a 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.320 performance like this? Like it was you sort of acted 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.480 people off the screen, and you were acting up against 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.640 some Australian royalty. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.720 So I don't know, how did you manage to pull 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:07.320 that performance off. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.000 It's a question that I've always wanted to ask you, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.920 and of course we're going to get into the Reverend. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.200 Yeah. I mean, I think so much of that show 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.840 was just the writing. The writing was so brilliant. There 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.959 was not a bad line in the show, and especially 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.720 they had so much fun with my character. They made 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.080 my characters say the dirtiest things and pulled the crudest pranks, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.320 and really I just had to follow the brilliant words 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.560 that they wrote, and then it was kind of you 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.000 know that did all the work. I really lucked out 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.000 with that role. I absolutely love that and I'll forever 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.320 be sad that we didn't do a season three, and 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.520 I'm still secretly gunning for a kind of soft reboot 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.400 where I can kind of be the age of Debbie 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:43.640 and Sewer in the first one. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.320 What did you think about where there was all of 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.560 those diehard fans that just started leaking stuff saying that 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.480 there was a season three. There was even photos like 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.400 set photos up saying that it was secretly being filmed. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.520 Were you aware of all of that conversation that was 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.160 happening online. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:03.000 Yeah, because I started that. I started that. I was 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.840 really bored one day and I posted a TikTok saying 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.720 that it's coming back, and I didn't think that many 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.120 people watch it, and then it ended up getting like 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.280 one point four million views, and still to this day 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.080 on my TikTok, I get constant comments about it. And 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.880 off the back of that TikTok, Daily Mail wrote an article, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.080 Pedestrian TV wrote an article, and all this stuff came out. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.719 So I started this, remember hoping that it would maybe work. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.320 I was about to say, you did not. But you 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.520 know what's so funny is that the music, you know, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.200 the score of that show is just etched into people's minds, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.480 and so it was so well put together because we 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.880 got to see the hope of it, but you also 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.080 got that music, which was what did you think of 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:40.640 that score? 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.240 I think it was it was so amazing. It was 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.000 such a good mix of kind of nostalgia for the 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.559 parents watching the show and then kind of great old 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.919 songs for the new generation to discover. I mean, the 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.919 main one, are You Old Enough? Is such a statement 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.400 of the show and just perfectly stums it up, and 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.760 that's what I used in the TikTok out of the rumor. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.280 But so yeah, that's really I really was hoping that 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:09.440 that rumor would cause enough attention that some studio might go, hey, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.000 let's pick it up and make a third which was 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.520 wishful thinking and a bit cheeky, but. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.440 I still thick there's a lot of people out there 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.520 that would love to see it. But I have to ask, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.279 you know, did that show open up a lot of 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.080 doors for you overseas? I mean, anyone that could see 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.080 that performance of yours would be like, You've got to 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.119 put this guy in a movie. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.400 This guy is so talented. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.000 It did? It really did launch a lot of things 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.520 because I got I started with a short film, and 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.919 then I got Puberty Blues, and then after that things 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.360 just kind of started snowballing. It opened up a really 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.960 wonderful world and just lots of eyes and it was good. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.560 It was such a great foot in the door. It's 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.000 such a cool show to be a part of. And 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.600 that's what I'm really noticing is each year goes on 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.039 and the older again, I kind of realized how lucky 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.200 was to be a part of a really important kind 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.720 of cultural show and then you. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.599 Go on to work with Jake Gillenhale, Paul Dano, the 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.560 m Nut Shameline world. Like, it's a huge global scale 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.880 to then have put upon you, and you've grown up 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.840 a lot in front of the world over the years, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:02.720 and you know that's a lot for a young person. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.880 Are the things in place to make sure that you 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.080 don't fly completely off the handle? 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.839 Well, my parents really, you know, my parents kind of knew. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.520 I don't know, they just had such a lid on 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.880 things and they made sure that I didn't turn to 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.839 anything nasty. But there's still time Mom and Dad. But 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.880 I think the main thing it was just that was 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.960 just family because they're really Unfortunately in that world, there 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.440 aren't a lot of things in place to stop people 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.440 from flying off the handle, and that's what happened so often. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.680 It's just a pretty messy, bizarre world at times. But 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.920 I was very lucky and very fortunate, and I think 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:37.960 a big part of it was that I always had 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.280 Australia to come back to, is that I wasn't living 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.200 in the States and working over there. It kind of 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.440 was a bit of a holiday and then I could 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.720 come back and have a kind of regular life where 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.680 it wasn't just money and show and a bit of 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.560 all the crazy stuff that goes on in the entertainment industry. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.359 Well, you weren't really a fish out of water in 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.719 that sense because your parents kind of understand the industry 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.040 of course, yeah, you know, in their own right, So 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.080 I guess they weren't unfamiliar to it. You hear those 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.839 stories of you know, Lindsay Lohan or you know a 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.880 few others that were young child actors and the parents 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.520 were overwhelmed by the glitz and the glamor and read 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.800 all that wrong where I think if you've got Showbi's parents, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.440 they that sounds like a terrible way of describing your parents, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.440 by the way Showbiz's parents they would. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:22.280 Hate they wouldn't they. Yeah, you're right, they do. They 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.480 knew it to expect. They've been dealing, you know, they've 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.880 they've known actors their whole life, and they've seen the 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.200 kind of dark side of actors and the good side. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.760 And I think they just kind of really subtly pushed 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.840 me in the right direction. And they were like my 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.360 two mentors, And anytime I had any kind of question, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.240 I always had these the two best acting coaches to 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.160 turn too. Well. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.400 They're mentors for other actors as well, so you know 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:48.119 that's pretty good. You've got them on speed dial. Yeah, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.160 you've been in some pretty big projects on a global scale. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.560 Is there anything massively different about acting in Australia versus, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.160 you know, acting in America. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.600 Yes, totally. I mean America. You know, they just go 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.880 everything's bigger, and it's the classic thing about the portions 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.360 are bigger and that everything's bigger, and that is true. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.480 There's always more crew, there's always more more funding putting 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.440 into it, which just enhances everything. It kind of gives 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:17.280 it this kind of surreal, hollywoody feel, Whereas in Australia, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.840 and I'm noticing here and New Zealand, the budgets tend 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.920 to be a lot smaller. It means that people have 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.040 to be a lot smarter and more resourceful. And I 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.200 think the crews here seem to have teem to have 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.440 each other's backs a little bit more. I'm really lucky 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.200 to have worked in both, but I think as I 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.160 get older, I really really love working in Australia. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.520 Yeah, you hear big Australian actors, like even Nicole Kidman 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.800 talks about it publicly about you know, yes, it's amazing 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.000 to work on a big project with a big budget, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.240 but how much she enjoys the intimacy of working back 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.440 here in Australia and she does come back and do it. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.440 I just always wondered from your perspective, is it easier 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.920 do you think to play those roles on a big, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.920 bigger scale, or do you find that you're much better 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.240 doing it when it's I don't know, on an Aussie budget. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.000 Yeah, yeah, I just so much of the Aussie budget 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.280 I think it is it is, I don't know. It 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.000 just it feels a lot more comfortable, and when you're comfortable, 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.120 you can get a better performance. So I feel like 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.199 it it is kind of easier here. There's just less 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.480 going on and it's more about It feels more about 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.000 the craft here, which which is you know, kind of 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.000 what every actor likes, and I don't know, just it 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.760 feels a lot more personal working in the Australian industry 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.240 and kind of trying to push it and beef it 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.000 up so it can kind of compete with the other 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.920 kind of markets, with the international markets. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.160 I remember going to the movies to see you in 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.200 the visit, which was the m Night Chamlin film, and 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.880 I remember thinking, were you allowed to watch all of 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.320 his other films? Because his other films up unto that point, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.480 I mean, as this film is as well is quite scary, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.280 but were you allowed to go and watch The Sixth 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.920 Sense and see Haley Joel Osmond, you know, do that performance? Like, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.240 did you watch any of that before you made the visit? 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.520 Yeah? Yeah, we did. When I'm as soon as I've 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.240 found out that I had the role, me and Mum 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.640 watched The Sixth Sense and it did scare me because 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.520 it's really creepy. It's so terrifying, but it was a 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.080 really good kind of indication of what the kind of 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.160 tone of the visit will be or what. And we 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 also watched Unbreakable, which I love. I think that is 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.520 his best movie. I think that is so fantastic. And 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:20.760 we watched The Village as well. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.320 Yeah, you know, I agree with you. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.920 Everyone's always ordering the best films of m Night Chamelant 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.080 and Unbreakable. Yeah, it's easily my favorite, and it's so intoxicetting. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:35.520 It's such an amazing superhero film. It's such a reinvention 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.840 of the genre and it's so interesting and the performances 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.560 are like out of this world and the imagery I 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:42.760 think it's so incredible. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.120 Well, I've got my nerd questions out of the way, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.920 the questions that you know, if you ever get the 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.120 chance to speak to this person. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.920 So we need to talk about the Irreverend. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.560 You know, it's so beautifully made, with so many accomplished actors. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.120 Is that amazing to be back here in Australia to 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.680 work alongside some of these people that you've probably grown 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:00.600 up watch on TV. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.760 Yeah, it's so fantastic. To be a part of this 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:08.560 ensemble cast is just amazing. And it was. It was 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.319 just so incredible, and everyone was so lovely and so supportive, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.720 and we became a real family up in Mission Beach 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.319 where we filmed it, And yeah, just to be alongside 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.200 them and just to be a part of this incredible, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.360 really unique, cool show. It was such a dream job. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.679 I really I would love to do eight seasons of it. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.280 It's so don't you think it's amazing that we're now 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.320 getting to see kind of a little bit left of 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.360 the center storylines you know that you wouldn't have seen 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.160 on say, Free to Wear back in the day. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.439 Absolutely, it is so interesting and with free to wear, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.920 it's good that there isn't that the wait each week 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.600 and the kind of all at once bingeable digestive thing. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.360 Really it really works. You can kind of change the 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.520 whole format. You don't have to have these little cliffhangers, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:55.520 and I don't know, it changes the way that TV works, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.400 and I think it's a really cool step. But you're right. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.600 I think this is really really you know, good for 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.040 a stream, Yeah, and for it to be on such 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.480 a global stage in the States on Peacock. I think 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.000 it's showing Americans a really interesting, unique side of Australia. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.040 It's also got the great American lead for Australians. I 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.600 think it works really well for both countries. And I 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.680 think it's I think it's just got a really unique 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.480 tone and look, and the costumes are great in the show, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.440 and everyone's just a bit quirky. It really captures that 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.520 interesting idea of small town. I think there's so much 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.440 going on that makes it really interesting for kind of 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.400 anyone to watch, regardless of where they're from. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.760 I also think what's phenomenal is that it looks just 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.800 as good as any other show that's being made around 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.840 the world. It looks like a big little lies or 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.160 you know, it looks like a HBO series in a way, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.360 you know, it looks just as good as anything else, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.440 so you can sit up against anything, you know, and 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.439 the way in which people are tapping into streaming services. Now, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.520 if you're just looking at that little picture or you're 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.520 watching the trailer, you know, we in Australia are making 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.079 shows that are just as good as anywhere else in 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.960 the world, which brings in a global audience exactly. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.079 And yeah, that was one of the main things unfortunately 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.280 the Australian industry that a lot of stuff gets made 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:04.560 and you look at it and go, oh, that looks 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.079 kind of Australian and it's almost a derogatory kind of thing, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.040 but it's kind of got this feel to it. You 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.240 I don't know, but when we all watched the trailer, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.120 we all went, that's a show. That's a that's a 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.240 show that is worthy of heavy you know, you look 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.400 at it and it's it's colorful and rich, and you 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.960 know there was no expenses spared on the filming because 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.480 it just looks so decadent and so good. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.760 Well, it's movie quality, isn't it. I mean it looks 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.319 like you should be watching this on the in the cinema, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.720 so and that's kind of how they are making TV 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.760 and lots of ways now, so I guess you can 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.920 keep up with the Joneses. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.200 How would you describe this series to people? 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.280 Because a lot of people listening to this podcast right 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.840 now won't know the show, might not be familiar with 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.839 it's what's the best way for you to describe what 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:46.560 this show is about. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.360 I think, as I said before, ultimately this show is 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.120 it's a fish out of water story. It's about someone 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.479 you know who you know kind of messes up and 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.880 has to deal with the consequences and it's not very 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.360 good at dealing with his consequences, but then finds himself 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.840 in this beautiful town, and I don't know, it's interesting. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.560 It's an interesting story about kind of acceptance and deceit 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.160 and the kind of big city mentality for a small town. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.400 I think there's just got It's got lots of themes, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.679 and it's got lots of beautiful characters, all with their 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.640 own little kind of subplots. There's a little bit of 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.600 a love story, there's crime, there's there's humor and real 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.480 heart to it. But it's just it's really unique. I 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.520 cannot remember the last show that I've watched quite like this, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.360 with the contrast and look and feel and music, and 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.960 it's just got a really unique tone that I think 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.320 will really resonate and it's very bingeable. I just think 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.200 it's got so much going for it. It's such an 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.520 interesting show about so many different things. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.840 Well, I kind of liked about the show was bringing 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.840 someone new into community helps people look at things a 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.680 little bit differently, and I think we all need a 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.840 bit of a factory reset every now and again in 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.200 our own lives, and that's what I really enjoyed about it. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.360 What attracted you to the character of Cameron. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.400 I just absolutely loved it. From the minute that I 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.960 read the audition scenes. I just thought he was so 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:11.880 brilliantly naive and silly and really sweet, and it was 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.000 it was just very different to anything I'd played before, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.520 and it was nice. It was nice that it wasn't 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:21.320 a character defined by age or kind of backstory. It 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.600 was he wasn't just the kid. It was this just 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.600 strange kind of entity that he's just there and he's 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.320 kind of you know, he's just interesting. He's very sweet, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.840 but he's very misguided and he does very lovely things 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.560 that get him in trouble lots of the time. But 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.240 I just thought it was I thought it was a 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.160 really interesting character. I thought it would be a real, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.280 a real, nice, healthy challenge, and I thought I could 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.080 bring enough of myself into it. And I just loved that. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.960 I had so much fun it was. There are very 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.360 few jobs where you get to set and just really 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.560 love being in this character, and there was lots of 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.000 kind of revising between the cast. Was just it was great. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.760 I just knew it would be good as soon as 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:05.560 I read the audition. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.560 I also thought it was interesting because you know, like 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.040 as a kid, you're always played as this sort of 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.640 adult in a child's body in a way, you know 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.040 what I mean, And then now you're getting to play 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.640 a bit of it, more of a naive character, which 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.200 is for the first time something that we're seeing differently. 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.800 Do you think that we're going to see more of that? 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.520 Is that something that's changed as you've become an adult. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.920 I don't know. I think I do. I do like 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.800 that direction, so I hope I'm stepping into it. I 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.960 just did earlier this year, I did a film that's 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.080 coming out on Stan as well, that's coming out tomorrow 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:41.120 and Stan actually where I played again quite a silly character, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:46.800 quite not that far off Cameron, quite a naive, lovely 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.520 good intentions, but just poor execution of things. So maybe 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.280 I am subconsciously kind of moving towards that. I find 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.960 myself now gravitating towards more comedic things, which I do 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.040 really enjoy and just yeah, it's like every actor's frame. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:03.960 It's just fun. It's fun just to get to set 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.840 and try and make people laugh. And if you don't, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.520 you don't. If you do, you do. But I really 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.040 like it. I'm very interested to see where kind of 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.359 what roles are coming up or in the future. But 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.560 if they're similar to Camera, I'll be very happy. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:17.600 Well. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.120 Making the transition from child actor to an adult actor 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.159 can be quite difficult, but for you it seems to 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.880 be happening quite seamlessly. Have you got people that you're 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.679 looking up to us there people in Australia that you 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.359 look up to with your career or the trajectory of 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:30.879 your career. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.920 Yeah, I think you mentioned it before. I think Paul 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.840 Dana I really I really idolize his career. I think 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.000 he's not only an incredible actor, but an amazing director 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.960 and just all round genius. I think, and if I 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.480 can even try and follow in his footsteps and try 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.320 and do some of the things that he did, including 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.280 write and direct, eventually I'd be so happy. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.080 It must have been surreal to then go to the 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.439 movies and watch The Batman with him in that. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.320 I know it was bizarre to sive friendly old All 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:02.600 an absolute menace. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.800 I love those stories of you doing your lines with him, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.359