1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing Hot Seat. In this EPP, I 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: PS. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not so good 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: at the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: awesome answers. Now a new EPP is going to drop 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, so enjoy this shortest style episode of Fearlessly 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Failing Hot Seat. Steph Bremm, Welcome to the hot Seat. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Congrats on your own pod, my friend. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. How exciting do you know? 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: You were my first ever guest on Feelusly Failing. You 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: came out EP two, mate, but I was your first 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: record or my first recording, and you we have. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Come full circle because you were the first recording for me. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: There we go. 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is hot Seat. Okay, welcome back. I 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: feel like I'm on a game show. It feels a 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: bit game show vibes. Okay. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Full name Stephanie Jane Prem. Do you have a fear many? 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: I think everyone does. I mean, we just you. It's 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: your life's work. 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: But like the fear of failure, I think is solid, 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: is solid for most of us. But it's also like 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: a massive driver for me, if that makes sense. So 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: it's negative, but it's a positive. It's like most of 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: the time when I'm oh, I like that told I 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: can't do something, I often do it. So I think 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: that's been something a big one for me. I don't 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: have any like fears of like I mean, I'm come 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: from action sports, so like jumping out of planes and yeah, 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing that kind of stuff. I love adventure. But no, 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 3: I don't have like not a rachnophobia or anything weird. 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: It's more just like for me, it's like, you know, 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: probably I'm just driven. 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like that I can fully relate to 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: what's something that's moved you recently. 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: Could be a book, a movie, a moment. I think 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: I've had many moving moments lately. I mean, if it's like, 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: because I know you're so into this face of film 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 3: and TV at the moment, really, what's it called real people? 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: You don't know it? Oh my gosh, it's like you're 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: about to say real house fives. 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: No, No, oh my gosh, real people. It's just like 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: that was the most moving thing I've seen in a 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: very long time. 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: But also think I've had my. 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: Own moments of movement lately, just because I've moved overseas 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: to London and like, I mean a new relationship and 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: there's just been like so many like moving moments lately 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: which have been so nice and I think they're like 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: a reminder that you're, you know, moving forward, and oh 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: I like that. 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you have a favorite movie? You and I 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: share the same movie? I'm sure of it. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, hang on is it The Holiday? Oh yeah, 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: that's my favorite Crimbo movie? 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, my favorite Christmas movie? And rom com. 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Do you know Jack Black lives on my street? 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: No? 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen him, seen him walkin my eye contact. 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: I just want to come back as Cameron Diaz in 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: my next So you've got Cameron Diaz vibes. 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: There's so many deeper movies, but like, if I ever 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: just need to switch off or be in a better headspace, 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: that there's that scene in The Holiday with Cameron Diaz 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: in the supermarket that just makes me scream, like squeal. 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Like Also that scores great. Yeah, that's a really it's 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: hand zimo. That's a really nice movie score. 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: What about a book? Do you have a favorite book 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: or a book you've read recently that you like. I'm 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: currently reading Rise by Lindsay Vaughn. 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: She's my favorite athlete in the world and she's just 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: released a book, so I've I've just started her book 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: and it's She's the number one skier inund like did 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: a lot for female sports, so it's very relatable for me. 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I'm reading it's a bit like 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: close to home reading it, like I. 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's very good. Okay, Yeah, all right, love. 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I love that question because I'm like, I'm building this 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: list of things to read now. Yes, selfishly, Tools at 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: the Times is probably my favorite book. 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it something you can just always go back to, 83 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: is that? Tim tim Paris? 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. Okay. 85 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: What is something on your bucket list you haven't done yet? Ooh, 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: great question. It's travel related. 87 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: For me. Bucket list is always like places I. 88 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: Want to go back from Greece, haven't you. I just 89 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: got back from Greece. I'd never been. I haven't done it. 90 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: Summer destinations, right, So I had chased I had eleven 91 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: winters back to back, eleven years of chasing the winters 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: and an Olympic snowboard it was my life for so long, 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: so obvious summer locations I'm now discovering in my late thirties. 94 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: Like to Loom Hawaii. I love how you keep saying 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: late thirties. You've just turned thirty seven. It's doing your 96 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: mid thirties, your didinger. 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: I can feel forty, just like tapping on my shoulder. No, 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: I love my late thirties. I think it's like mid 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: to late thirties and it's such a good space. It's like, yeah, 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: I agree, the best space I think I've been. 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Like, I love it. So I'm not saying it negatively. 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's weird these places I'm 103 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: now discovering and going to. You should do you like 104 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: Maui on your list? Like part of Hawaii? I love 105 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: to never been, would love to surf in Maui. 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Do it, my friend? Do it? Okay? If you could 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: have a superpower, what would it be? I mean, I 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: think I'm of. 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: The belief that you should always leave people better than 110 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: you found them, and that's something that I like to do. 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: But if it was a superpower, I think that would 112 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: be it, like, ah, save the world. Look at you. 113 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you have a failure that you're like, oh, 114 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that was a bit of a failure that kind of 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: changed my course or had an impact on me. 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: You know, we look at them positively. 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: We do. You and I so similar in that sense, 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: But I think other people would see it as a failure. 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I recently shut down three businesses, three bricks 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: and mortar businesses in studio PP my baby and have 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: moved to the online space. And it was a very 122 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: A lot of people saw that as a failure, you know, like. 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: Oh, I never thought that was a failure when we 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: talked about it. 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: No, taking into the account there was a you know, 126 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: two year pandemic yet mixed in there in Melbourne. But no, 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: I see it as being a real, like you said, 128 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: like a springboard to other opportunities. And I always believe 129 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: that one door closes, another one opens. But oh yeah, 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: and just seeing how I can use that business in 131 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: that space differently. 132 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Oh mate, I'm excited for you. Yeah, what's the bravest 133 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: thing you've ever done? 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: I you know, I think as friends we've touched on this, 135 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: I would never have said it's brave. But the last 136 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: few years, like probably the last five years, I have 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: been like I obviously closed down the businesses, I went 138 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: through a divorce, I left a relationship, Like people said, 139 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: that was very brave, all of these sort of things 140 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: I've done. Now I moved back overseas to start a 141 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: new chapter. I think people see that as bravery, but 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: I would see it more as like non attachment. 143 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Totally agree, yes, And the. 144 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 3: Ability to you know, close one door and open another 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: and start again and never be afraid of you know, 146 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: doing that. Yeah, so some people would see that maybe 147 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: as as brave and maybe like in hindsight now I 148 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: see that back then it was brave, but I think 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: when you're in those moments, you just can't see the 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: woods through the trees. 151 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: Totally used. 152 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Keep pushing, Oh, I love that favorite meal and you 153 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: can't say corn chips? 154 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Why not. 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Steph Prem eats corn listener, Steph Prem eats corn chips 156 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: with no guak, no salsa. 157 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: It is not right, my friend. It is all right. 158 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: It's a running to your house before and. 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: You're likenis was a food group? Can I say GUACAMOLEI 160 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: then absolutely okay with corns, I'm presuming, yeah, obviously with 161 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: a side of corn chipsquakan. 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: Dip is like the like sorry guak and chips is like, 163 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: and do you like a spicy mug to go with it? 164 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm not shy to a spicy absolutely. Otherwise, pancakes, Oh 165 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: you a panicky pancake girl? 166 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Is something I grew up with, Like. 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: My dad's like feel good to feel good like a 168 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Sunday morning, like or if you're in a bad space 169 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: like I think that generation, like of our parents too, 170 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: that just can't discuss hard topics. 171 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: My dad would just be like, how did I make 172 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: you some pancakes? 173 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 174 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 175 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like connected to comfort for me because 176 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: when I think of you, because you and I used 177 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: to go to studio pp together and then get a say, 178 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: bowls around the corner. I think of like bowls when 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I think of bols. What about advice for a younger 180 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: I guess like entrepreneur in your case, like somebody that's 181 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of like got a dream, wants to go after it, 182 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a bit scared, maybe got to be a self doubt 183 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Like what would you say to like somebody being like, Oh, 184 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: I've got this thing I want to do Steph Sprave. 185 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: Again. 186 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: I mean think it's something you and I discuss as well, 187 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: and if I could speak to my younger self, it's 188 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: backing yourself in those harder moments because. 189 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: Essentially no one can go out and do it for 190 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: you, you know. 191 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: And I think I learned that in sport. I was 192 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: in an individual sport, not a team sport. So like 193 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it got like I 194 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: had this mentor that the Olympics that was like, when 195 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: you get into that startgate, there is no one there 196 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: to help you. You can have coach, you can have 197 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: a physiotherapist, you can have people helping you, but you're 198 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: the only one going down the course and you're the 199 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: only one competing. And they think, you know, naturally very 200 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: competitive in the game of life now moving away from. 201 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: Sport, but it's like you're competing in your own race. 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: So you have to do the work and you can't, 203 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: you know, wait for the validation and permission of others. 204 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,479 Speaker 3: You just have to back yourself and jump in wholeheartedly. 205 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: I had a nutrition teacher and she said class one week, 206 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: one semester one she said, you are the only person 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: who can get you to where you want to go, 208 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: and you are the only. 209 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Person who can stop you. Wow. Which is exactly what 210 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: you just said exactly. 211 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I cannot have you on this pod, this hot seat 212 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: without asking what your favorite song is, because I know 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: you're obsessed with Britney Spears. 214 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: Is it going to be a Britney song. 215 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: Or it has to be or Obviously one of the 216 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: greatest moments in my life was flying myself to New 217 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 3: York and sitting front right with the Britney Spears concept 218 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: for my thirtieth birthday, just me and every gay man 219 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: in New York. 220 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the best night of our life. 221 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: People think it's so outrageous, but I used to used 222 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: to listen to Brittany. 223 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: I think it's just nostalgic for me. It reminds me 224 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: of my childhood. 225 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: And I was a dancer for fifteen years before I 226 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: went on to sports. 227 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: So I just love Brittany, I don't. I just love. 228 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: She's feel good. It makes me feel good. It takes 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: me to a happy place. So I used to have 230 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: a lot of her on my like I would call 231 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: it like a winning mindset playlist. 232 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Before I would compose if so. 233 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: There would be elements and I still like put remixes 234 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: into classes. 235 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I've been in your stuff with people and then people like, 236 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: is that is that a Britney song? And I'm like, 237 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: sure it is. So if you had to have one 238 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: fave Brittany's song, Oh God, the pressure you drive me crazy? 239 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 240 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: No, have you seen promising young woman Harry Mulligan. 241 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: No, they do an incredible composed instrumental version of Toxic. 242 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll play it to you at lunch. You have to. 243 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's almost haunting. Wow. Yeah, because the movie 244 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: is like super dark. I cannot wait. You have to 245 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: see the movie. 246 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: Off the back of that, I have to say though, 247 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: like obviously I love Brittany and it just takes me 248 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: to a happy place. 249 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: But like French House is my driver. Oh, you and 250 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Matt have bonded quite a lot over this. 251 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: Sinclair is like I love him so much and he 252 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: I used to snowboard a lot and compete a lot, 253 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: and I still use that kind of music to just 254 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: get me going, get in that zone. 255 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: So that's also something that really inspires me. 256 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Final question, in light of your brand new podcast, what 257 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: is your favorite practice for finding mindfulness when you're feeling messy? 258 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, great question. 259 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean, anyone who's worked with me or knows me 260 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: knows that I believe in non negotiables, and for me, 261 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: it's always coming back to those on the good days, 262 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: the bad days, the hard days, the great days. So 263 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,119 Speaker 3: like my non negotiables, movement always is like the springboard 264 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: to feeling better physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, everything. So always 265 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: movement doesn't have to be hard, movement, just smooth your body. 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: It's also, you know, nutrition, which I know is your space, 267 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: but it's more so just seeing it as like fuel 268 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: and like eating what makes you feel like your best 269 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: self as well, and some form of meditative practice and 270 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 3: I struggle with that like anyone else. 271 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: Totally, totally. 272 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: I've been on a panel on a health panel beforeence 273 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: one's like I meditate twenty minutes morning, twenty minutes a night, 274 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: transcendent and I was like, I've done that course, I'm 275 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: trained in that. I absolutely don't do that, but I'm 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: also not going to be as the audience either. You 277 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: have just shared a hack with me before we hit 278 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: record on this pod. And when you fly a long 279 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: distance flight, what's the first thing you do? 280 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: Always have a massage booked At the other end, can 281 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: you explain what they taught. 282 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: You because it's related to the physical movement competing. Yeah, 283 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: and I used to do it as an athlete. Was 284 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: because obviously when nothing good comes from stagnation and keeping 285 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: your body still. So if you've been on a long 286 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: haul flight, it's really great to move your body straight 287 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: away when you get off the flight. That's often the 288 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: last thing you feel like doing, or you're not on 289 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: the right time zone, and sometimes like over stimulating your 290 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: body or vigorous exercise at the wrong time of day 291 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: is not going to be good for you either when 292 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: you're trying to reset or get a jet lag. So 293 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: massage is a great way to stimulate like your cellular 294 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: system and your lymphatic system body and move your body 295 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: without moving your body, if that makes sense, getting someone 296 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: else to kind of almost do the work. 297 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: And that lymphatic as well, which would you would have 298 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: held fluid from a long flight so. 299 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: Incorrect flush the body and then that will It just 300 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: helps with jet lag so much. 301 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: It's just such a good ha. I had no idea. 302 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: You've changed my world. 303 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: Oh try it, you know, it's life changing, Like lots 304 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: of water massage straight off the plane, and which is 305 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: obviously easier when you fly into big cities and depending 306 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: on the time zone, but it makes a massive difference. 307 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: And then try to eat and sleep on that time 308 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: zone that you land in straight away, whether you feel 309 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: like it or don't, and you should be ready to 310 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: go the next day. Oh, I love it, because we'd 311 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: have to jump off a flight and compete sometimes yeah, 312 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: the next day or do whatever. So you really have 313 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: to find these little like hats to like make sure 314 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: you're in the right space. 315 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I love it. 316 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: Steph Pram, congrats on your pod. It's all out and 317 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: available now. 318 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: And also can not wait for people to hear your 319 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: episode and you're going to live. Oh, you are the best. 320 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: And also if you want to listen back to Steph's 321 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: first ep on Feels Failing. 322 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: It's episode number two, so you can find her there. 323 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite interviews of really time. It's 324 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: my favorite pod interview that. 325 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: Makes me very happy. I love it. 326 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with potting and I know you're going to 327 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: be the exact same. 328 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, big love.