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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Family's podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 1: It's a moment of truth. Every Friday, it feels almost

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Speaker 1: like we're about to go through some sort of examination, Kylie.

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Speaker 1: The anxiety starts to go up. Hod we do things,

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Speaker 1: things coming okay or not. It's I'll be better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'll be better tomorrow for those of you who knew

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Speaker 1: to the pod, is where we reflect on the week

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Speaker 1: that was and try to be more intentional learning to

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Speaker 1: be better parents based on what we got right or

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Speaker 1: what we got wrong the week prior. Kylie, you're going

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Speaker 1: to kick us off today, where do you want to

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Speaker 1: take this?

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Speaker 2: Well, in case we left anyone feeling like one family

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Speaker 2: meeting and our chaotic, dysfunctional family was back on track,

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Speaker 2: I really just wanted to paint a fuller picture.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you're going to make us look bad, is

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Speaker 1: what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It was a week one we actually did really well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for context, if you missed it, last week we

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Speaker 1: sat down and had like almost a full day family meeting.

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Speaker 1: What's going right, what's not going so well? What do

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Speaker 1: we need to work on? We talked about everything, put

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Speaker 1: together so many plans for how we could make the

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Speaker 1: week go well.

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Speaker 2: We asked the kids to give us a rating of

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Speaker 2: what they would suggest was our rate of function.

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Speaker 1: You had to bring that one up, didn't you. Zero

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Speaker 1: point five? Zero point five is what one of them said.

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Speaker 2: And in all honesty, life was just terrible. Put it

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Speaker 2: really was. You're traveling so much at the moment, a

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Speaker 2: lot of it is falling on me, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's just a little bit of I don't

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Speaker 2: want to use the term lightly, but there is just

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Speaker 2: a bit of post trauma from having years and years

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Speaker 2: of having to do this on my own. In reality,

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Speaker 2: our family smaller now than it was when you first

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Speaker 2: started traveling. It should be easier, right, But I feel

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Speaker 2: like dealing with teenage years on my own just feels

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Speaker 2: all encompassing sometimes. So I just wanted to kind of

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Speaker 2: give a little bit of a rundown the highs and.

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Speaker 1: The lows, Okay, And we should also add that I

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Speaker 1: was mostly traveling for the week. Lead traveling, I put

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Speaker 1: all of these great plans in place for what you

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Speaker 2: As I've been mulling over what I might share, and

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Speaker 2: I think the thing for me that stands out the

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Speaker 2: most these family meetings. They don't make things.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, and they're not one and done.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, But what they do provide is guideposts.

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Speaker 2: We actually know where we want to go as a family.

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Speaker 2: So before when we weren't doing our family meetings regularly,

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Speaker 2: we know what we want, but there wasn't any guideposts

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Speaker 2: We've said this is what we want and this is

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Speaker 2: how did we go? Where did we fall short? And

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Speaker 2: to that vision of what it looks like to have

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Speaker 2: That was awesome. We've done walks five times out of seven.

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Speaker 2: But we spent more time with the family because again

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Speaker 2: Well, I think before it just felt like everything was

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Speaker 1: A few years ago, our eldest daughter bought us a book.

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Speaker 2: And since bored games to play board games.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So we scratched off this one for last weekend.

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Speaker 1: Was amazing for somebody who doesn't draw.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. It was just I said to the

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Speaker 2: So take homes from today.

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Speaker 1: Take our messages. Do the hard thing, Do the hard thing.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. We really appreciate you listening to

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Speaker 1: au Hey. On Monday, we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: this topic. Is birth order legitimate or is it a sham?

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