1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Daily Ods. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It is the fourth of August. I'm joined today by 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: the co founder of the Dally Ods, Zara Sidler Zara. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: How many cases were there in New South Wales and 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: what else is happening in the news today? 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: So yesterday we heard of one hundred and ninety nine 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: new locally acquired cases in New South Wales. There were 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: fifty of those cases infectious in the community and again 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: forty seven of those cases still remain under investigation. It 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: was also a very clear target outlined by the premiere 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: of what she wants the vaccination rollout to look like, 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: specifically in New South Wales. In New South Wales at 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: the moment we have three point nine million jabs of 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: vaccinations that have been provided and thank you to everybody 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: taking up the vaccine. By the end of August, I'd 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: like to see that number go to six million jabs. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Then over in Queensland there were another sixteen locally acquired cases, 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: so that's quite a bit of a jump. All of 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: those cases, however, were linked to a known cluster, so 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: no mystery cases there. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: We've transitioned from doing daily posts on the Victoria account 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: to Queensland and will be sure to keep our Queensland 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: viewers and listeners in the loop. Around two five hundred 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: quantisant Jetstar employees have been stood down for an estimated 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: two months as a result of the COVID nineteen outbreaks 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: and state lockdowns. The airlines insist these are temporary measures 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: and that no job losses will be expected. This all 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: comes after the federal government announced the Retaining Domestic Airline 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Capability Scheme and under this new scheme, airlines receive payments 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: of seven hundred and fifty bucks a week for at 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: least fifty percent of their frontline staff if they can 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: show a thirty percent downturn in their business, with the 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: scheme scaling up if the airlines drop further. 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: Before we jump into this one, a quick heads up 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: that it is a really disturbing story. Local authorities in 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the Sudanese province of Kassala have confirmed around fifty dead 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: bodies were found floating in a river. It's believe the 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: bodies were those fleeing the war torn area in neighboring 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Ethiopia's Tigray region. The river passes through areas with high 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 2: conflict in Tigray, and some of the bodies were found 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: with gunshot wounds or their hands bound. However, a forensic 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: investigation is still needed to determine the causes of death, 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: according to officials. 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: And for today's good news, we spend a lot of 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: time at the moment talking about Australia's vaccination target, where 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: we have a goal to hit overseas. The US has 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: reached President Biden's goal of having seventy percent of eligible 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: adults at least partly vaccinated against COVID nineteen. This means 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: that in real numbers, roughly one hundred and eighty point 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: seven million people above the age of eighteen have received 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: at least their first dose. This latest percentage is seen 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: as an important step towards America's status of herdmin so. 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Earlier this week, opposition leader Anthony albernezi He proposed a 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: new incentivizing scheme for the vaccine. He proposed that any 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: Aussie that gets both doses of the vaccine by December 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: first should be offered a three hundred dollars cash PA, 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: and the idea is that this might incentivize and encourage 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Ozzies who are either a bit hesitant or can't take 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: the day off work or something like that to go 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: get the vaccine. The policy proposal was costed at six 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: billion and would also backdate to include people who were vaccinated. 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: And this was one that people kept asking us on 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: our instagram. So there we've said it again. This would 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: include people who are already vaccinated. The thing to remember here, though, 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: before Sam jumps into it, is that this is just 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: a proposal from the opposition. The way our political system 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: works is that the opposition cannot implement a government scheme. 68 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: So even if Anthony Alberanzi does have a whole lot 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: of support from his own party, it's up to the 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: Prime Minister and the coalition to actually implement this plan. 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: So yesterday on our Instagram page, we wanted to get 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: a gauge of what you guys thought about this proposal, 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and we approached that challenge in two ways. One, we 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: put a poll up asking would this encourage you to 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: get vaccinated? And it was a yes and no answer, 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: And then we asked you why not? And I think 77 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: looking at the results is really interesting. So on the 78 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: first yes and no question, seventy five percent of the 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: dally Os readers would be encouraged by three hundred dollars 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated. However, when we move over to looking 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: at the reasoning, we see a lot of resistance in 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the answers given and there's a couple of themes that 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I want to draw out. The most resounding answer from 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: dale OS readers was that this doesn't solve the issues 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: of supply, that it doesn't speed up whether under forties 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: are eligible for the vaccine, and that it doesn't address 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: issues of PISA allocations that are running short across the country. 88 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: The other really interesting response was a lot of people 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: saying they don't need the incentive. And I thought this 90 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: was fascinating because when you're throwing around free money, I mean, 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: we can think back to Kevin Rudd's stimulus program in 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the height of the GFC and how well that was 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: received by the Australian public. Australians traditionally love a bit 94 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: of free cash. So the fact that we were getting 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: young Aussies, especially saying in our DMS that they actually 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: don't need it, and that they're convinced of the efficacy 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: of the vaccine, or rather. 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: That the money should be going to rolling out the 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: vaccine elsewhere or increasing. 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Supply, right, that's really interesting, and that's a totally different 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: reaction to what we saw with similar incentive programs overseas. 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: We have seen some really creative incentive programs overseas. In Moscow, 103 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: the authorities are handing out five cars a week in 104 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: a prize draw for people to get vaccinated. Biden has 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: called on states and localities to do more to encourage 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: people to get vaccinated, including paying them one hundred dollars, 107 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: but that's not really in place yet. However, in some 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: of the US states specifically, they've offered independent prizes, so 109 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: we covered the Vaccine Scratch program, which is the best 110 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: name ever, which was providing lottery tickets for prizes up 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: to five million dollars. 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: In New York. 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: There was also shot in a beer program to encourage 114 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: eligible people from New Jersey ages twenty one and above 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: to get vaccinated and get a beer. Seems like something 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 2: would go down well here, and they're in Israel, which 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: is one of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: Earlier this year offered a discount on property taxes to 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: families in which everyone above the age of sixteen was 120 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: vaccinated for the month, and while was certainly too early 121 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: in the vaccination role out globally to understand the correlation 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: and causation between these incentives and people getting vaccinated. A 123 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: UCLA study carried out this year found that roughly a 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: third of the unvaccinated population set a cash payment would 125 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: make them more likely to get a shot. Interestingly, the 126 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: second popular incentive was going maskless and this is certainly 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: something that Gladysbury Jicklian has been talking about in that 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: incentivizing doesn't need to take the form of cash or 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: beer or whatever it might be, but especially for Sydney siders, 130 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: it could take the form of more freedoms. Sam, what 131 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: do we know about what the Prime Minister's thinking on 132 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: this is? 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: He essentially slammed the plan. He basically said it was 134 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: a vote of no confidence in Australians, saying that it 135 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: says that any health concerns they have about the vaccine 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: can be paid off. He said that cash is not 137 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: what motivates Australians, but rather the health benefits on offer 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: from a vaccine. This view was echoed by Federal Finance 139 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Minister Simon Birmingham, who said it was not on the 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: government's radar at all. It was not to be considered 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. 142 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Time will tell whether the government sticks to their guns 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: on that one or whether they capitulate and do offer 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: these cash incentives that the opposition is suggesting. We'd love 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: to hear a bit more about what you're thinking. There 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: was certainly an array of opinions here, and just because 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: we've highlighted some of the arguments against does not mean 148 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: that there was not a lot of support all the 149 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: cash payments. It should be said there are a lot 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: of people who said that they have been financially decimated 151 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: by the pandemic and that three hundred dollars would go 152 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: a really long way, which I'm sure is the case 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: for a lot of young Aussies. 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Hit us up on the Daily OS on Instagram. It's 155 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: where over one hundred and fifty five thousand Australians are 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: getting their news at the moment, and we'd love to 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on whether an incentive would see you 158 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: getting the jab