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Speaker 1: Jum Mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, is there a more dreaded question than a

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Speaker 2: child asking a parent can you help me with my

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Speaker 2: maths homework? Some parents may not be phased by that.

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Speaker 2: I it's as if I was a drop roll, as

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Speaker 2: if on fire. That's what I always had to do

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Speaker 2: when kids ask my help. But don't fear Australia's most

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Speaker 2: famous maths nerd. I'm not a fan of the word nerd.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Adam calls himself a nerd. He's

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Speaker 2: written a book about everything you need to know about

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Speaker 2: navigating the nitty gritty world of maths. Adam Spencer, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm only more a geek than a nerd. But

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Speaker 1: great to speak you over, a man. I love it

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Speaker 1: to hear from you, and love you to hear that

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Speaker 1: nervousness in Jonesy's voice as we get towards his topic

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely you know, man, math's My youngest just did

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Speaker 3: his HSC last year and he's here before.

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Speaker 4: Was it last year? He lost a year? Okay, so anyway,

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Speaker 4: that's how good his maths is.

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Speaker 3: I looked at his HSC maths and my head actually

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Speaker 3: collapsed in on itself.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't even understand it.

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Speaker 1: And look by the Tony get at the end of

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Speaker 1: the AHSC there's some pretty tough stuff going down there.

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Speaker 1: Challenge for parents if you haven't done it for twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty years, there can be stuff in third grade four

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Speaker 1: grade mathematics that makes you think, look, God, how do

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Speaker 1: we do that sort of thing again? So that's what

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Speaker 1: Matt's one I one is about. It's a guide for

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Speaker 1: parents to navigate primary school mathematics with their kids.

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Speaker 2: Is math's taught differently now to OURA day? Is it

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Speaker 2: still the same learn you tables and all of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good question. A lot of people in

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Speaker 1: the home schooling experience thought, wow, this has all just

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Speaker 1: gone completely different. There's been a couple of changes. They're

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Speaker 1: pretty cosmetic changes in the book. I do, for example,

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Speaker 1: the long division the way they do it this days,

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Speaker 1: the way they did it in the old days. And

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Speaker 1: you put the two examples next to each other, and

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Speaker 1: you see, are that three? That's just that three? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay that Most of the changes are little things that

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Speaker 1: have just been shipped around slightly, not radically different. They're

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Speaker 1: not suddenly doing calculus that we never did anything like that.

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Speaker 1: The times tables are still there, fractions, percentages, decimals, all

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Speaker 1: those top of the pops hits that we love so much,

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Speaker 1: so many years ago.

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Speaker 4: My one was the Queens and their Rods, those rods.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, school, That's what I could because the purple

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Speaker 3: one was worth six and the little squares one and

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Speaker 3: I managed.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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Speaker 1: And after that it just became a blur refraction, percentages

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Speaker 1: and roman numal and then it.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah and long division. I just thought make But

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Speaker 4: it's interesting, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Before last year's HSC, was it last year? Yes, it was,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about how you think you don't need

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Speaker 2: this stuff in your life, but how it's part of

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Speaker 2: everyday life. And lots of people caught up saying, I

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Speaker 2: designed driveways, I need maths for this. I'm a nurse,

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Speaker 2: I need maths for this. This is the stuff that

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Speaker 2: you really too. And I'm hopeless. And I studied well

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Speaker 2: at school and I wrote learn or learned all the formulas,

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Speaker 2: but I wish I had a more natural ability when

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Speaker 2: it came to maths.

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Speaker 1: So there's two things here that are really important. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that my book and courage is actually getting it not

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Speaker 1: just jamming in a memory of way you did something

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Speaker 1: that never really made any sense, and it was big

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Speaker 1: at the time. It's big for nurses now and people

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Speaker 1: designing driveways now. But the kids and grandkids we've got

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Speaker 1: in primary school now, I'll go into a workforce for

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Speaker 1: jobs that don't exist at the moment in all sorts

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Speaker 1: of maths. Area's computer coding, designing apps, statistics, informatics, this

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Speaker 1: whole digital world, this thing called the Internet of Things,

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Speaker 1: we're moving into. Kids who are matts savvy and really

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Speaker 1: numerical will write their own paychecks arobut this century. That's

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Speaker 1: why it's important that we need to gift primary schools

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Speaker 1: these days and their parents helping them to get on

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Speaker 1: top of mats right from the start.

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Speaker 4: Well, I wish I got on top of maths. It

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Speaker 4: could be a rich guy.

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Speaker 3: You could have.

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Speaker 2: We had a competition on the show called Jonesy's Home

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Speaker 2: Learn and where he'd go up against kids. He was

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Speaker 2: and I'm not making this up beaten by four year olds.

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Speaker 2: Have a listen to Jonesy's Maths. What is ten percent

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Speaker 2: of six dollars fifty cents? Today is Wednesday? What day

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Speaker 2: was it? Three days ago?

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Speaker 3: Monday, No.

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Speaker 2: Twelve minus four equals SIGs. What is nine times eight

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Speaker 2: forty eight? Lucas? What is nine times eight? Key? Correct?

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Speaker 4: That's a disgrace. Nowhere near it.

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Speaker 2: Jonesy talks as if he's blaming someone else for that.

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Speaker 4: How do I even exist?

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Speaker 1: How we're going to do? Jonesy, Jonesy, don't leave the studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to get an emergency copy

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Speaker 1: of Mass one on one pass track to you. I'll

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Speaker 1: send Lucas along as well. He will. Working through some

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Speaker 1: of the early chapters. He's sounded like a guard old.

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Speaker 4: Can you send me some queens and air rods as well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And Adam, congratulations to you. I know you got married.

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Speaker 2: Likest congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you a nerdy massing about the marriage. We

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Speaker 1: had to pick a date. Couldn't pick January twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: that was my birthday. Pick around, picked up, picked the

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Speaker 1: twenty second in January. It was my fiance pointed out,

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Speaker 1: hold at twenty second of January twenty two two two

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Speaker 1: one two two, I got married on a palindrome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, who says you're a nerd?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of a rhyme I knew as a kid.

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Speaker 2: One one was a race horse. Two two was one

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Speaker 2: two one one one one race two two one one two.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to put that in your next book.

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Speaker 1: I will absolutely, But Matt's one I want is their

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Speaker 1: primary school guy for parents.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Adam, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Check out the new book mass when I won in

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Speaker 3: bookstores now, Adam Spencer, It's always a treat.

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Speaker 1: Now Jones are just one final question. You've got this

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Speaker 1: three times five.

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Speaker 4: Eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Are you three fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we're getting there already. Baby steps, baby steps,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you have to put a wow. Thank you, Adam,

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Speaker 4: Thanks Adam, Jonesy and Amanda's gamation