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Speaker 1: honor the continuing connection to country, culture and story. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to find and tell. I'm Mondonaravels and this is

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Speaker 1: where First Nation storytellers step behind the mic and speak

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Speaker 1: And today's storyteller, Aliah Jade Bradbury will guide us on

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Speaker 1: our next theme the next chapter. You've heard our journey

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Speaker 1: this final chapter, Alia goes deeper into legacy, lineage and

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Speaker 1: the quiet power of women who refused to be small.

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Speaker 1: Big es soul or big Thanks. Is a love letter

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about legacy, like what does

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Speaker 2: it mean to be a Tory, straight Islander woman right

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Speaker 2: my family there were never just one thing. They were lovers, fighters, prophets, breadwinners,

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Speaker 2: from a long line of women who, against all odds,

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Speaker 2: to our contradictions, to the women who raised us, and

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Speaker 2: She's always been that woman, the one who can glide

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Speaker 3: People left Ireland out of necessity. You need to work,

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Speaker 2: My mum was twenty one when she had me, young, curious, hopeful,

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Speaker 3: One of my cousins had actually said, Jeddy girl and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm okay, thanks, no, Jady girl. She was

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Speaker 2: But the work wasn't just about the jobs. It was

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Speaker 2: about what the jobs meant. She was carving spaces for

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Speaker 2: stories like ours, for women like us, and she never

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Speaker 2: with her into every boardroom and every broadcast booth. There

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Speaker 2: And as I got older, I realized she wasn't just

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Find and Tell, as filmmaker Aliah Jade

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Speaker 1: Bradbury takes us through her family's incredible legacy in Big Es,

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Speaker 1: So Big Thanks, Let's get back into It, as Aliah

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Speaker 1: Jade explores how the women in her family continue to

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Speaker 2: Being a toe straight Islander woman in modern Australia, it

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Speaker 2: feels like you're moving between worlds, the ancestral and the future,

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Speaker 2: It's not a contradiction, it's the rhythm. Bell Hook says,

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Speaker 2: to be truly visionary, we must root our imagination in

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Speaker 2: in my family have always built their own parts. My

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Speaker 2: My grandmother dreamed of worlds never ventured before, and my

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Speaker 2: I think about legacy. I think about movement, because we're

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Speaker 2: not only keepers of culture where architects of the future.

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Speaker 2: And the work that we do isn't just for us.

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Speaker 2: It's for the girls watching, for the women beside us,

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Speaker 2: honoring those who came before you, of choosing joy, of

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Speaker 2: choosing growth, of choosing yourself. Even when the path isn't

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Speaker 3: You're in your new season of what that might look

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Speaker 3: can look back at sort of your canvas of your life,

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Speaker 3: to form this magnificent piece of work.

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Speaker 2: in stories, in sound, still dancing. My family story is

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Speaker 2: of strength and softness of mothers and daughters, of laughter,

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Speaker 2: between struggle of love that stretches across generations, even when

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have it all figured out. You

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Speaker 2: just have to keep going, keep building, keep dreaming, keep

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Speaker 2: making room for the version of yourself who hasn't arrived

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Speaker 2: yet but is on their way. Because legacy isn't about perfection.

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Speaker 2: It's about momentum. It's about passing something on, a lesson,

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Speaker 2: to this, maybe that's your invitation to remember where you

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Speaker 2: space to write your chapter. The line continues, and it's

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Speaker 2: more powerful because you're here.

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Speaker 3: I am in awe of every single one of your achievements,

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Speaker 3: authoring a book, painting artwork. I am so enormously proud

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Speaker 3: of who you are as a woman. I appreciate you. You

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Speaker 3: are my best friend.

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Speaker 2: You are my best friend too, And now I cry,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Mom.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too.

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Speaker 1: That was Aliah Jade Bradbury sharing her heartfelt story of

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Speaker 1: legacy and the next chapter in Big ESSL What really

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Speaker 1: stood out for me is the way Aliah honors the

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Speaker 1: contradictions in the women who raised her, the softness, the strength,

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Speaker 1: the quiet endurance, and the fierce pride. She reminds us

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Speaker 1: that legacy doesn't have to look one way, and that

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Speaker 1: true power is often passed down in the everyday moments,

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Speaker 1: the ones nobody sees. It's a powerful invitation to own

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Speaker 1: who you are and to write your next chapter with courage, creativity, culture.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this theme has been about, understanding

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Speaker 1: where you come from and stepping into who you're becoming.

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Speaker 1: But we're not done just yet. Next time, we close

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Speaker 1: out the season with a bang Aria Award winning rapper

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Speaker 1: and producer Dobby brings us a story called Fight, a

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Speaker 1: deeply personal exploration of protest and purpose. Dobby's story is

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Speaker 1: an anthem for those who stand for something. It's about

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Speaker 1: There's even a sneak peek into his next big project,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, you won't want to miss it, So

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Speaker 1: hit follow, spread the word and join us. Next time,

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Speaker 1: I'm under Arabils and as always, this is Find and Tell.

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Speaker 1: Find and Tell is a co production between iHeart Australia

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Speaker 1: and the black Cast podcast network. Black Cast empowers First

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Speaker 1: Nations people and people of color to reclaim their narratives, strength,

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Speaker 1: and cultural identity and contribute to a more inclusive Australia

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Speaker 1: by showcasing exciting emergent talent from Australian communities