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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: Well, our next guest has rescued me many times when

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Speaker 2: I'm hosting dinner at my place.

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Speaker 1: Not literally.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't swing in from the rafters, though I'd love

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Speaker 2: it if she did. But she always helps me know

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Speaker 2: what to cook through her books. Nagella Lawson's talent, her

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Speaker 2: sense of humor in a style has made her I

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Speaker 2: think the heart and soul in many people's kitchens around

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Speaker 2: the world. And she's about to appear on the Telly

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Speaker 2: in Australia as a new judge on MKR alongside Manue.

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Speaker 2: She joins us now, Nagella, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello, that was some intro. I will try and live

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Speaker 1: up to it. But thank you.

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Speaker 2: How can you not live up to this? We were

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Speaker 2: so excited to hear that you're going to be on

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Speaker 2: this show. Did you have to think long and hard

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Speaker 2: or was it something that you thought, yes, I'd like

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Speaker 2: to be a judge on that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I really knew straight away. The thing is,

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Speaker 1: you know, it seems to me a program that's about

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Speaker 1: celebrating home cooks and spring also about the lover of

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Speaker 1: food and well, I was drawn in straight away and

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Speaker 1: I thought, as well, you know, I love being in Australia,

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Speaker 1: sad in a bit of a travel around Australia. But

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Speaker 1: I knew, I knew very much that it was a

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Speaker 1: type of approach I'd be happy with. And I knew

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Speaker 1: that this season there was going to be such a

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Speaker 1: sort of renewed emphasis on the food and the cooking.

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Speaker 3: And it's moved on a bit because they did lose

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Speaker 3: its way a little bit, you know, with the cattiness

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen. So it's good to say getting back

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Speaker 3: to cooking and just those simple things, as you say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it's about. And I think as well,

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Speaker 1: is that it's a delicate balance because of course there

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Speaker 1: is an inherent drama because there's quite a lot at

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Speaker 1: stake and people are trying their best. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time there is also not that there's there's a

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Speaker 1: way in which you can watch people enjoy what they do,

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Speaker 1: enjoy learning because of what they're eating. Other people's do it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing, because it is about Sherry, what.

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Speaker 2: Are the foods that you can't eat? Does anyone ever

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Speaker 2: put a plate in front of you and you say, look,

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Speaker 2: I just can't do it. I mean I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: have to judge food that you don't personally like, But

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Speaker 2: are the things you can't eat?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't do you know what? I always hope

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Speaker 1: I always have I can find drink I don't. There

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Speaker 1: isn't anything I can't eat, not mad keene. I wouldn't choose,

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Speaker 1: first of all, to have something with you know green

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Speaker 1: you call them capsicum. Yes there is. That wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: my you know, I'm not hugely in favor, but there

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Speaker 1: is nothing I would sit and think. I hope it

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Speaker 1: isn't this.

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Speaker 3: What's what's the English word from? What's the English word

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Speaker 3: for capsicum?

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Speaker 1: Well we say pepper.

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Speaker 3: I thought that too different. I thought that two different

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Speaker 3: other it was a capsican and then there was a

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Speaker 3: pepper and a bell pepper were all different things.

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Speaker 1: Well, not everyone calls it a pepper, but a bell

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Speaker 1: pepper is the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to argue with you, Nigella. You

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Speaker 3: are I'm not going to go to town.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I could

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Speaker 1: well be wrong, but anyway, but we all know what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, and that's the important thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's not get started on cilantro Well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, but it's siffical because in Australia often

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Speaker 1: you use the same terms as we do, but there

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Speaker 1: are someone you use the same as Americans. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: I try and I try and use the appropriate the

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Speaker 1: appropriate word for the country. If I fail or can,

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Speaker 1: I apologize.

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Speaker 2: And then they'll get you onto the vegemite.

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Speaker 3: I love, of course you do, please to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I just I've just had to make family really well.

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Speaker 2: Look you're half Australian.

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Speaker 3: Well, Nogella, it's always great to talk to you. MKR.

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Speaker 3: It's now just known as MKR. It's like KFC. MKR

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Speaker 3: premier Sunday seven o'clock on Channel seven and seven Plus.

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Speaker 3: Nogella Lawson, it's always a yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're excited to see it. Thank you for joining us.