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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Tatsy genuinely has an amazing story. This is actually grateful

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<v Speaker 2>about despite all the pain we found out about this

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<v Speaker 2>morning about kidney stones, you wouldn't be here today if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for a kidney stone. Partsy.

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<v Speaker 3>No kidney stone saved my life. So what was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Six seven years ago? I had what I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>a kidney infection and I was here at work and

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<v Speaker 3>I just read my eight o'clock bulletin. Went to the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom and really was unwell and rang my doctor and said,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've got an infection. He said, come in.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, oh, yeah, you've got a kidney infection. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put you on some antibiotics. Anyway, it didn't get better,

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<v Speaker 3>and a couple of days later I went back to him.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a few other signs and he said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just do a scan. I think you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>kidney stone. And I said to him, my brother had

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<v Speaker 3>had My oldest brother had had kidney cancer twelve months before,

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<v Speaker 3>and it can run among siblings. But there was no

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<v Speaker 3>reason for alarm. So I said to our GP We've

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<v Speaker 3>got a wonderful family. GP in the West. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I probably should mention that my brother had kidney cancer

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. And he said, oh, I'm sure. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure it's nothing that you know that bad. If there's

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<v Speaker 3>anything there on the scam, we'll see it. We'll lo

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<v Speaker 3>and behold. I had the scan, and yes, I had

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<v Speaker 3>a kidney stone. I had about a seven mil kidney

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<v Speaker 3>stone in my left kidney. But I also had a

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<v Speaker 3>tumor right in the middle of it. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a shock. But you know, when you

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<v Speaker 3>hear the sea word, it's like it's terror.

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<v Speaker 2>All of us. Fair. That's the horrible thing about cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know what it can do, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we all dread that and a shadow or an X

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<v Speaker 2>ray or waking up one morning with a pain under

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<v Speaker 2>your arm. P. Yeah, you hear all those stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a thing with kidney cancer. It's good

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<v Speaker 3>for me to talk about it because it's good for awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>It often doesn't have symptoms until it's in its very

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<v Speaker 3>very last stages, and it's a little too late to

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<v Speaker 3>do something.

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<v Speaker 2>So you really were lucky. If you on't got the

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<v Speaker 2>kidney stone, you wouldn't have gone back.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I could be walking around today. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I probably wouldn't have been walking around today, but I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely would have been walking around absolutely unbeknownst that I

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<v Speaker 3>had the tumor. So I consider myself. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I say I'm the luckiest woman in the world, I

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<v Speaker 3>really am, because if it was, I've got that to

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<v Speaker 3>thank for being here. And yeah, but how's that thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that you've got a kidney stone and then you come

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<v Speaker 3>out with another diagnosis as well? And you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I felt. It's really weird to describe because I've felt this.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this sounds strange, but when our GP told us,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt this weird sense of elation, which I know

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<v Speaker 3>that sounds weird because we didn't know how diet you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what the prognosis even at that point was. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think I did feel grateful that I knew, even at

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<v Speaker 3>that moment, when I was still in his office, that

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I dodged a bullet in a way,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I had some hurdle to sort of leap through.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of the kidney cancers are found through

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<v Speaker 3>incidental fines like that with scans, So get your chicks,

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<v Speaker 3>if you you know, if you feel something's not quite.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's amazing story. Patsy. Right, you've told us we've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken before about your kidney canser. I didn't know it

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<v Speaker 2>came via an accent all sort of examination for the stones. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that is amazing. I'd love to know. Always think stories

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<v Speaker 2>like this, well, that you're grateful for. You don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're grateful for sometimes in life, like just twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes hearing about the utter living hell of having something

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<v Speaker 2>like a kidney stone, but then Patsy actually spinning it

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<v Speaker 2>around it, and I'm actually grateful for mine, because without mine,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows if there's anyone else. You do hear these

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<v Speaker 2>amazing stories where people say, like Patsy did, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be here today if it wasn't for Sometimes there's a

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<v Speaker 2>good surmount to those, a little bit of life saving

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<v Speaker 2>skills that save your life, or whatever was that thing

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow, maybe invisible how or angel who knows what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to believe in. But people do have these stories.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got one like Patsy, where you're grateful for

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<v Speaker 2>something that if it didn't happen, you wouldn't be here today,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the question o' carl's show podcast Judy, Good.

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<v Speaker 4>Morning, Good morning, How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good Judy. So I'd love to hear your story.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you grateful for? What happened? What saved your life?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So thirty years ago, I was on a houseboat

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<v Speaker 5>in Lake Yilden. My girlfriend and I had decided to

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<v Speaker 5>sun bake on the houseboat. But we've got two tubes

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<v Speaker 5>tied them to rope and some baked thought of out

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<v Speaker 5>in the lake from the houseboat. Next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the drivers the boat decides to move hip and start

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<v Speaker 5>the engine. Of course, these two tubes snapped. As soon

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<v Speaker 5>as the houseboat took off. The tubes took off into

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<v Speaker 5>the air, flying, and the next thing you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>were like in the middle of Lake Eildon, struggling, and

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<v Speaker 5>we started to swim towards his houseboat, but every time

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<v Speaker 5>I looked up, the houseboat was further away, and of

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<v Speaker 5>course the speedboat had gone into Petrol. So my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 5>was a strong swimmer and I wasn't. And I kept going,

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<v Speaker 5>kept going, and then I could feel myself going and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, now I just leave me. You keep going,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's like, no, I'm not leaving you. And I

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<v Speaker 5>started to push, you know when they say take what.

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<v Speaker 5>I started to drag her down, and then she pushed

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<v Speaker 5>me off. It was real like a drowning experience. And

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<v Speaker 5>a guy they yelled, and he yelled out to the house,

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<v Speaker 5>but Julie's going to drown like she's struggling. And a

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<v Speaker 5>guy called, and I will say his name, Gilbert Wangernen

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<v Speaker 5>from a chuca. He jumped into the into the lake

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<v Speaker 5>and swam towards me and brought me back. And to

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<v Speaker 5>this day Gilbert and I are friends. And I will yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I owe in my life and days ago. Yes, what

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<v Speaker 5>a story, I know, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you've had us all me and literally jaws on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor. What a story. I mean, you were right

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<v Speaker 2>near the edge of your.

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<v Speaker 5>Life one hundred percent. And I'll tell you the moral was,

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<v Speaker 5>I never learned how to swim. I'm fifty four. I

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<v Speaker 5>never learned how to swim as a child. And it

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<v Speaker 5>made me, yeah, looks differently. And I took my son,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, to swimming lessons, and yeah, it was. It

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<v Speaker 5>was quite an experience. I'm actually kicking up now very well.

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<v Speaker 2>There of it will still be in you weren't it, Julie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, if anyone ever asks me, you know, have you

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<v Speaker 5>had a near death experience or anything like that? Like

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<v Speaker 5>I think is that you know, we sort of laugh

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<v Speaker 5>about it now thirty years on, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 5>laugh at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so unbelievable. What an amazing story. Incredible and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a survivor, you got through it. But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you now, you really took us there. That that is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge lake. And you're right, so if you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're a strong swimmer, it's a long way

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<v Speaker 2>to try. And then once that fair kicks in and

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't breathe, and then it affects your muscles

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<v Speaker 2>and you get tingly, that is a really scary place

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<v Speaker 2>to be for you and your friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and thank God for Gilbert, That's all I can say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nbelievable. It makes me want to learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>become a strongest streamers. Well, just in case you have

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<v Speaker 2>to try and save somebody, let me know yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you are right, Julie, because obviously when you open

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<v Speaker 2>something up, it's really still alive in you. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable experience and story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm fine, Thank you so much, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you. I can't believe the first story we

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<v Speaker 2>go to is this one. It's unbelievable. Julie. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you are okay. Thank you very much for giving us

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<v Speaker 2>a calling sharing it. Do you know what, I bet

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<v Speaker 2>there be people listening to this actually think, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I could be a better swimmer. It's never

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<v Speaker 2>too any age to go and have lessons.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely not definitely all right, Julia.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're okay. Thank you very much for giving us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, the Christian O'Connell Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much to Julie for sharing such a

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<v Speaker 2>moment in her life. Jack and I would just still

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<v Speaker 2>pulling it apart. Actually during that song, it's unbelievable her

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<v Speaker 2>the friend as you have to say to someone, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you go on? Yeah, and what do you tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say those words.

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<v Speaker 6>And being a friend and somebody who can't swim is

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<v Speaker 6>is grabbing onto you to save their own life, and

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to drown us both if you don't let go.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a really difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Julie, thank you very much to give us a

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<v Speaker 2>call and everyone who's calling in right now to share

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<v Speaker 2>these stories like Patsy did. This was seven o'clock. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Good morning, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, good morning Christian. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good Elizabeth. So what is your story like Julie's,

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<v Speaker 2>like Patsy's, all these incredible stories this morning. What's yours? Mate?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for

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<v Speaker 4>an earache. They found three brain aneurysms from an earache

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<v Speaker 4>and it was unrelated to the aneurysms. I went to

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<v Speaker 4>the doctor's an earache. She had a look and she

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<v Speaker 4>said there was nothing there, so she sent me off

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<v Speaker 4>to an audiologist. The audiologist said, your ears are clear.

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<v Speaker 4>So the GP said, I'll send you off for an MRI.

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<v Speaker 4>And when they did the MRI, they found one aneurysm.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I went up to the specialists at the Alfred

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<v Speaker 4>and they did a cerebril cerebral angiogram and they found

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<v Speaker 4>another two. So last year in August, I had the

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<v Speaker 4>first surgery and then I had the second surgery April

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<v Speaker 4>this year, just before Easter, when they removed the other two.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. What a thorough gp you've got as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because most of them they're so busy and overstressed and overworked.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done a couple of checks and they go, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably clear itself up yourself. Well, that amazing they made

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<v Speaker 2>and got you checked out probably where you say surgery, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you don't want me asking how do they

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<v Speaker 2>do that? What do they do?

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<v Speaker 4>They they remove a section of the skull and they

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<v Speaker 4>clip it and then they use titan like they use

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<v Speaker 4>titanium clip to clip the aneurysm and then they use

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<v Speaker 4>titanium bolts to attach the piece of skull back to

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<v Speaker 4>your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. And are you you're not conscious during this?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, stupid, that was a stupid You don't take pandole.

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<v Speaker 6>Deal deals on the TV.

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<v Speaker 2>For your the titanium screws go in Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 4>So funny thing is the only thing that you get

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<v Speaker 4>afterwards is panadole. You're on panadoles for the pain to

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<v Speaker 4>the headaches and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, so you've got titanium in your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've got I've got titanium bling in my brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Way, that's the greatest rap song never recorded. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you go through airport scanners, do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>let them know I've got a titanium ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they don't, they don't affect the scanners.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that is amazing. I love that. That's Elizabeth, another

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic story.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what though? With the earache? They sent

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<v Speaker 4>me off to a special specialist as Monash, and he

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<v Speaker 4>had looked and he said, there's a big lump of

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<v Speaker 4>wax in there. And he got out the wax and

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<v Speaker 4>he was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's put at a taste for Elizabeth. All right, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much for sharing your amazing story with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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