1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Christian O'Connell show podcast. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: Tatsy genuinely has an amazing story. This is actually grateful 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: about despite all the pain we found out about this 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: morning about kidney stones, you wouldn't be here today if 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't for a kidney stone. Partsy. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: No kidney stone saved my life. So what was it? 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: Six seven years ago? I had what I thought was 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: a kidney infection and I was here at work and 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: I just read my eight o'clock bulletin. Went to the 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: bathroom and really was unwell and rang my doctor and said, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: I think I've got an infection. He said, come in. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: He said, oh, yeah, you've got a kidney infection. I'll 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: put you on some antibiotics. Anyway, it didn't get better, 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: and a couple of days later I went back to him. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: There was a few other signs and he said, look, 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: let's just do a scan. I think you've got a 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: kidney stone. And I said to him, my brother had 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: had My oldest brother had had kidney cancer twelve months before, 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: and it can run among siblings. But there was no 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: reason for alarm. So I said to our GP We've 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: got a wonderful family. GP in the West. I said, oh, 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: I probably should mention that my brother had kidney cancer 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: a year ago. And he said, oh, I'm sure. I'm 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: sure it's nothing that you know that bad. If there's 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: anything there on the scam, we'll see it. We'll lo 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: and behold. I had the scan, and yes, I had 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: a kidney stone. I had about a seven mil kidney 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: stone in my left kidney. But I also had a 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: tumor right in the middle of it. So it was 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: a bit of a shock. But you know, when you 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: hear the sea word, it's like it's terror. 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: All of us. Fair. That's the horrible thing about cancer. 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: We all know what it can do, and so yeah, 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: we all dread that and a shadow or an X 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: ray or waking up one morning with a pain under 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: your arm. P. Yeah, you hear all those stories. 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: And this is a thing with kidney cancer. It's good 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: for me to talk about it because it's good for awareness. 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: It often doesn't have symptoms until it's in its very 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: very last stages, and it's a little too late to 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: do something. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: So you really were lucky. If you on't got the 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: kidney stone, you wouldn't have gone back. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: You know what, I could be walking around today. Well, 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have been walking around today, but I 46 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: definitely would have been walking around absolutely unbeknownst that I 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: had the tumor. So I consider myself. You know, when 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: I say I'm the luckiest woman in the world, I 49 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: really am, because if it was, I've got that to 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: thank for being here. And yeah, but how's that thinking 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: that you've got a kidney stone and then you come 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: out with another diagnosis as well? And you know what 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: I felt. It's really weird to describe because I've felt this. 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: I know this sounds strange, but when our GP told us, 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: I felt this weird sense of elation, which I know 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: that sounds weird because we didn't know how diet you know, 57 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: what the prognosis even at that point was. But I 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: think I did feel grateful that I knew, even at 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: that moment, when I was still in his office, that 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: I felt like I dodged a bullet in a way, 61 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: even though I had some hurdle to sort of leap through. 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: But a lot of the kidney cancers are found through 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: incidental fines like that with scans, So get your chicks, 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: if you you know, if you feel something's not quite. 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Right, it's amazing story. Patsy. Right, you've told us we've 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: spoken before about your kidney canser. I didn't know it 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: came via an accent all sort of examination for the stones. Yep, 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: that is amazing. I'd love to know. Always think stories 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: like this, well, that you're grateful for. You don't know 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: what you're grateful for sometimes in life, like just twenty 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: minutes hearing about the utter living hell of having something 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: like a kidney stone, but then Patsy actually spinning it 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: around it, and I'm actually grateful for mine, because without mine, 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: who knows if there's anyone else. You do hear these 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: amazing stories where people say, like Patsy did, I wouldn't 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: be here today if it wasn't for Sometimes there's a 77 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: good surmount to those, a little bit of life saving 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: skills that save your life, or whatever was that thing 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: that somehow, maybe invisible how or angel who knows what 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: you want to believe in. But people do have these stories. 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: If you've got one like Patsy, where you're grateful for 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: something that if it didn't happen, you wouldn't be here today, 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear them. 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the question o' carl's show podcast Judy, Good. 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: Morning, Good morning, How are you. 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm good Judy. So I'd love to hear your story. 87 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: What are you grateful for? What happened? What saved your life? 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: Okay, So thirty years ago, I was on a houseboat 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: in Lake Yilden. My girlfriend and I had decided to 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 5: sun bake on the houseboat. But we've got two tubes 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 5: tied them to rope and some baked thought of out 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 5: in the lake from the houseboat. Next thing you know, 93 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: the drivers the boat decides to move hip and start 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 5: the engine. Of course, these two tubes snapped. As soon 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: as the houseboat took off. The tubes took off into 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 5: the air, flying, and the next thing you know, we 97 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: were like in the middle of Lake Eildon, struggling, and 98 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: we started to swim towards his houseboat, but every time 99 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: I looked up, the houseboat was further away, and of 100 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: course the speedboat had gone into Petrol. So my girlfriend 101 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 5: was a strong swimmer and I wasn't. And I kept going, 102 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 5: kept going, and then I could feel myself going and 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: I was like, now I just leave me. You keep going, 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 5: and she's like, no, I'm not leaving you. And I 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 5: started to push, you know when they say take what. 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: I started to drag her down, and then she pushed 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 5: me off. It was real like a drowning experience. And 108 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 5: a guy they yelled, and he yelled out to the house, 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 5: but Julie's going to drown like she's struggling. And a 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: guy called, and I will say his name, Gilbert Wangernen 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 5: from a chuca. He jumped into the into the lake 112 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 5: and swam towards me and brought me back. And to 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 5: this day Gilbert and I are friends. And I will yeah, 114 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: I owe in my life and days ago. Yes, what 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 5: a story, I know, tell me about it. 116 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: God, you've had us all me and literally jaws on 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: the floor. What a story. I mean, you were right 118 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: near the edge of your. 119 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 5: Life one hundred percent. And I'll tell you the moral was, 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: I never learned how to swim. I'm fifty four. I 121 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: never learned how to swim as a child. And it 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: made me, yeah, looks differently. And I took my son, 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 5: of course, to swimming lessons, and yeah, it was. It 124 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: was quite an experience. I'm actually kicking up now very well. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: There of it will still be in you weren't it, Julie. Yeah. 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 5: Oh, if anyone ever asks me, you know, have you 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 5: had a near death experience or anything like that? Like 128 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: I think is that you know, we sort of laugh 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 5: about it now thirty years on, but it wasn't a 130 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 5: laugh at the time. 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: That's so unbelievable. What an amazing story. Incredible and you're like, 132 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: you're a survivor, you got through it. But I'm telling 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: you now, you really took us there. That that is 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: a huge lake. And you're right, so if you're not, 135 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: even if you're a strong swimmer, it's a long way 136 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: to try. And then once that fair kicks in and 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: that you can't breathe, and then it affects your muscles 138 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: and you get tingly, that is a really scary place 139 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: to be for you and your friend. 140 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank God for Gilbert, That's all I can say. 141 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, nbelievable. It makes me want to learn how to 142 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: become a strongest streamers. Well, just in case you have 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: to try and save somebody, let me know yourself. 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: Now, you are right, Julie, because obviously when you open 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: something up, it's really still alive in you. It's an 147 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: unbelievable experience and story. 148 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fine, Thank you so much, thank. 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: You, thank you. I can't believe the first story we 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: go to is this one. It's unbelievable. Julie. I hope 151 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: you are okay. Thank you very much for giving us 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: a calling sharing it. Do you know what, I bet 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: there be people listening to this actually think, you know what, 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: I know, I could be a better swimmer. It's never 155 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: too any age to go and have lessons. 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: Definitely not definitely all right, Julia. 157 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: I hope you're okay. Thank you very much for giving us. 158 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, the Christian O'Connell Show podcast. 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Julie for sharing such a 160 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: moment in her life. Jack and I would just still 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: pulling it apart. Actually during that song, it's unbelievable her 162 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: the friend as you have to say to someone, no, 163 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: you go on? Yeah, and what do you tell you? 164 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: I have to say those words. 165 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 6: And being a friend and somebody who can't swim is 166 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 6: is grabbing onto you to save their own life, and 167 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 6: you're going to drown us both if you don't let go. 168 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 6: It's a really difficult situation. 169 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Julie, thank you very much to give us a 170 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: call and everyone who's calling in right now to share 171 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: these stories like Patsy did. This was seven o'clock. I 172 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Good morning, Elizabeth. 173 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: Hi, good morning Christian. How are you? 174 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm good Elizabeth. So what is your story like Julie's, 175 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: like Patsy's, all these incredible stories this morning. What's yours? Mate? 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for 177 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: an earache. They found three brain aneurysms from an earache 178 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: and it was unrelated to the aneurysms. I went to 179 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: the doctor's an earache. She had a look and she 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: said there was nothing there, so she sent me off 181 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 4: to an audiologist. The audiologist said, your ears are clear. 182 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: So the GP said, I'll send you off for an MRI. 183 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: And when they did the MRI, they found one aneurysm. 184 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: Then I went up to the specialists at the Alfred 185 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: and they did a cerebril cerebral angiogram and they found 186 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: another two. So last year in August, I had the 187 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: first surgery and then I had the second surgery April 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 4: this year, just before Easter, when they removed the other two. 189 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: That is incredible. What a thorough gp you've got as well, 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: because most of them they're so busy and overstressed and overworked. 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: They've done a couple of checks and they go, it'll 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: probably clear itself up yourself. Well, that amazing they made 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: and got you checked out probably where you say surgery, right, 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: I hope you don't want me asking how do they 195 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: do that? What do they do? 196 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: They they remove a section of the skull and they 197 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: clip it and then they use titan like they use 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: titanium clip to clip the aneurysm and then they use 199 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: titanium bolts to attach the piece of skull back to 200 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: your head. 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: Amazing. And are you you're not conscious during this? 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,239 Speaker 4: No? 203 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: No, stupid, that was a stupid You don't take pandole. 204 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: Deal deals on the TV. 205 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: For your the titanium screws go in Elizabeth. 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: So funny thing is the only thing that you get 207 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: afterwards is panadole. You're on panadoles for the pain to 208 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: the headaches and things. 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, so you've got titanium in your head. 210 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got I've got titanium bling in my brain. 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Wow. Way, that's the greatest rap song never recorded. So 212 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: when you go through airport scanners, do you have to 213 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: let them know I've got a titanium ahead. 214 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: No, they don't, they don't affect the scanners. 215 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: Wait, that is amazing. I love that. That's Elizabeth, another 216 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: fantastic story. 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: Do you know what though? With the earache? They sent 218 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: me off to a special specialist as Monash, and he 219 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: had looked and he said, there's a big lump of 220 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: wax in there. And he got out the wax and 221 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: he was fine. 222 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: He's put at a taste for Elizabeth. All right, Elizabeth, 223 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 2: thank you very much for sharing your amazing story with us. 224 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 225 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Look Christian Connell Show Podcast