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Speaker 1: But look what we know is as part of the

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Speaker 1: carry up to ten years jail when Parliament sits next week.

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Speaker 1: So under this legislation, police are going to be able

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Speaker 1: to charge offenders who have stolen a vehicle and used

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Speaker 1: it as a weapon to damage property or gain entry

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Speaker 1: to a building. Now some examples of property are business homes,

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Speaker 1: police and private vehicles. And the Chief Minister, Leo Finocchio

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Speaker 1: said only last week that the nation had watched in

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Speaker 1: horror when a stolen car in Alice Springs was used

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Speaker 1: to ram a police vehicle. Now joining me on the

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Speaker 1: line is someone who knows all too well the impacts

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Speaker 1: of ram raids. His business was just last week targeted

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Speaker 1: with thousands of dollars in damage caused. Moyle Supermarket owner

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Speaker 1: for Deep Palis Army, joins me on the line right now.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, p Deep, Good morning Ed all

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Speaker 2: you yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good, Thank you so much for your time on this morning. Mike,

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Speaker 1: tell me what happened last week with the ram ride.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what happened last week is about early morning

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Speaker 2: of Friday, about two thirty. The people with the stolen car,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a Mitchibishi peggio. So focus on adult.

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Speaker 2: They lamplide my shop, they get in shopped, they know,

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Speaker 2: in and out of my shop. And they took around

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Speaker 2: thirty forty bottles of alcohol and they tried to break

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Speaker 2: in the smokes but they can't do it. And this

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Speaker 2: massive window. Think they took pittill out of my counter. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of you know how much they stole

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Speaker 1: in money and stock, how much is that going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, the thing is the stock they stole out of

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Speaker 2: the you know, the liquors they stole would cost her

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Speaker 2: on I don't know, maybe around five thousand dollars. But

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Speaker 2: the till by itself maybe cost thousand to two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: But the damage they did to the shop, it's going

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Speaker 2: to cast his fortune maybe another twenty grand something other,

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Speaker 2: you know, because you need to pick the shutter, which

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Speaker 2: I can't go through my insurance because it's a part

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Speaker 2: of the building. Then there's another process and we have

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Speaker 2: to make another security improvement as well, because I thought

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Speaker 2: myself is more secured, you know, Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 2: code already. I have to spend another ten to fifteen

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Speaker 2: grand on top of it.

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Speaker 1: That's horrifying for you. That is such a huge impost

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Speaker 1: on you as a business owner and on your business.

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Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard. It's hard because we, like last year,

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Speaker 2: we spent a lot of money to secure those places.

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Speaker 2: You know, now I have to do more.

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Speaker 1: Secure How much is that going to cost you? Then

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Speaker 1: to do more security to make sure that it can't

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Speaker 1: happen again, or to try and minimize it from happening again.

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Speaker 2: So another twenty grand. So I got a code for

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Speaker 2: just for a couple of girls. So that's going to

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Speaker 2: cost me like ten brands. So I'm thinking of putting

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Speaker 2: a ball out to the backside, and I'm thinking of

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Speaker 2: cursing the back with another grill, you know, the industrial group.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh goodness me prettyep I mean, there is no

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Speaker 1: doubt that these ram raids are having a massive impact

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Speaker 1: on businesses around the Northern Territory. Over the last few years,

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Speaker 1: I've spoken to a lot of business owners like you

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Speaker 1: who've unfortunately been in very similar situations. We now know

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Speaker 1: that the new Northern Territory government says that they're going

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Speaker 1: to introduce harsher penalties do you think that's going to work.

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Speaker 2: It's good at least the sheep missed Elia Liah made

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Speaker 2: some strict laws and she promises going to bring new laws.

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Speaker 2: Orb it works for Orienty business owners, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Hope it does too. I mean, when you look at

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Speaker 1: what has happened to your business, and when you look

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory, I mean, how hard does it make it

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Speaker 2: The sad As you spoke to some of you guys earlier,

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Speaker 2: it said, like, you know, I've been in the Celific

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Speaker 2: for fifteen years, yep, But last couple of years, maybe

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Speaker 2: last three four years, it's getting worse and worse, you know.

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Speaker 2: But but I don't know. For some reason, last six

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Speaker 2: months we feel we felt better, you know. Yeah, I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, the clime has gone a little bit down.

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Speaker 2: I can't see people around, you know, people, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I thought I started getting better, and all of sudden,

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got lamp right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, your poor bugger. That's a terrible situation to find

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Speaker 1: yourself in. And and you know, and and again, it

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Speaker 1: just makes it incredibly difficult to do business in terms

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Speaker 1: of you know, what it means for you insurance wise

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Speaker 1: up when things like this happen and does see you know,

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Speaker 1: the on flow ongoing have an impact of course.

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Speaker 2: Of course, because if you're going to put a claim,

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Speaker 2: you need to pay more. Yeah, and you know these

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Speaker 2: insurance bodies, you know, they don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: give for everything we claim. You know, it's part up

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Speaker 2: the building. It's not a responsibility, it's not covered you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I make it a large If my lige is at

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Speaker 2: on ten grand, you're going to give me seven or

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Speaker 2: eight or you know, they will come with some negotiations.

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Speaker 2: You really need to put some money out of your pocket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, by the sounds of it, you are definitely

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Speaker 1: hoping that this legislation that's coming into Parliament next week

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Speaker 1: is going to make a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, yeah, yeah, oh pre.

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Speaker 1: Deep, I hope so as well, and I think that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Northern Territory are hoping

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Speaker 1: so too, that it's going to make a difference and

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Speaker 1: that it's hopefully going to help business owners like yourself,

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Speaker 1: so that we don't see the same the same issues

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Speaker 1: that we have been experiencing now for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, pret deep.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having a chat with me

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Speaker 1: this morning. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: No problem yet. Thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 1: Thank you