Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tali Escane
Speaker 1: Shock's followers by listing Dream Barley Villa for sale, the
Speaker 1: surprise contestants set to appear on the New Bachelor spin off,
Speaker 1: and Megan Markle's Mad March continues.
Speaker 2: But first, Molly May and.
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury have all but confirmed their back together after
Speaker 1: jetting off on a family holiday to their happy place, Dubai.
Speaker 1: The reunion comes seven months after the Shock split following
Speaker 1: Tommy's issues with alcohol. So if, an eagle eyed fan
Speaker 1: was the first to raise the alarm on Thursday, spotting
Speaker 1: them at Manchester Airport.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This photo was all over by fu page and it
Speaker 1: showed the family of three lining up to board their flight. Now.
Speaker 1: UK tabloid The Sun ran with the photos straight away,
Speaker 1: reporting that they were accompanied by a nanny so they
Speaker 1: could spend more alone time together. The tabloid also spoke
Speaker 1: to online One Sauce said you would never know the
Speaker 1: troubles they've been through. They look like just a normal couple.
Speaker 1: Tommy was very protective of Molly and Bamby, and then
Speaker 1: Nanny helped with the luggage. Boarding the Emirates flight, they
Speaker 1: took the fast track lane and flew business class, but
Speaker 1: were recognized by other passengers. Another said people were delighted
Speaker 1: to see them together, but they kept to themselves. I
Speaker 1: wonder if this was a situation where people just felt
Speaker 1: too awkward to ask.
Speaker 2: For a photo. Oh yeah, I would not have gone off.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't really socially aware
Speaker 1: when they come across celebrities, and they wouldn't have respected
Speaker 1: that it was awkward. Well, they don't appear to be
Speaker 1: hiding the fact they're away together, because both of them
Speaker 1: are posting about being in Dubai. They haven't yet posted
Speaker 1: any photos of them together, but all of their photos
Speaker 1: are in the same resort. It's with their daughter Bambe.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, because straight away the mainstream media
Speaker 1: started touting this as a secret reconciliation holiday. So I
Speaker 1: think that they both thought, well, everyone's talking about it,
Speaker 1: we may.
Speaker 2: As well post about the trip.
Speaker 1: Did anyone notice that Tommy's photo were a lot better
Speaker 1: now on his Instagram story?
Speaker 2: I was like, clearly Molly has.
Speaker 1: Taken this, but it's not a shot of his Sunday
Speaker 1: roast with a Coca Cola. Well, he's been taking some
Speaker 1: pretty nice photos of her as well, and you can
Speaker 1: read a lot into the captions because Molly keeps calling
Speaker 1: this her special place. And Tommy also uploaded a video
Speaker 1: of him with Bambi and he was floating on a
Speaker 1: pool toy with her and he said the dream. So
Speaker 1: I just think that they are trying to soft launch
Speaker 1: that they're back.
Speaker 2: Is not a soft launch, this is a hard launch.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they are contractually obligated not to publicly
Speaker 1: say that they're back together. Perhaps perhaps Prime has said
Speaker 1: you can't say it until we air this docor otherwise
Speaker 1: no one's going to watch. I think they know that
Speaker 1: they're giving the fans what they want as well. I
Speaker 1: think they're confident that everyone's going to be a static,
Speaker 1: Well most people are going to be a static that
Speaker 1: they're back together, So they feel okay to be posting
Speaker 1: it because it looks like the most wholesome true I
Speaker 1: just hope they're vlogging it. You know, maybe they can't
Speaker 1: put it out right away, but common can you imagine
Speaker 1: if you were at the resort watching this, This would
Speaker 1: be the best people watching ever. Well, Molly actually put
Speaker 1: up a photo of Bambi playing with this older group
Speaker 1: of kids and was gushing about how beautiful it was
Speaker 1: and they took such good care of her.
Speaker 2: I wonder if the parents of.
Speaker 1: Those kids were like, go over there, now, what's going on.
Speaker 2: Another photo on Molly's story caught my eye.
Speaker 1: It was of like a can of coke and then
Speaker 1: what looked like two watermelon cocktails, and I was like,
Speaker 1: are they mocktails or karely they're mocktails. At first I
Speaker 1: thought maybe the soft drink was for Bamby, but now
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe it was for the nanny. Maybe they
Speaker 1: were all just having a drink together and maybe they
Speaker 1: were mock taps. Look, they're pretty loaded. They might just
Speaker 1: have bought two drinks. Molly might have bought two drinks
Speaker 1: for herself. Oh, I was just more concerned about the
Speaker 1: alcohol and it just had her mum in the docker
Speaker 1: ringing in my ear. That every occasion seemed to turn
Speaker 1: negative with Tommy and alcohol. So I'm very much hoping
Speaker 1: that they are mockedtails. It's kind of a strange thing
Speaker 1: to post. If you're back with Tommy. It seems like
Speaker 1: they've chosen Dubai for a specific reason. It was the
Speaker 1: first holiday that they went on with their daughter, Bamby.
Speaker 1: She was only three months old when they took there,
Speaker 1: and at the time, Molly described it as the happiest time.
Speaker 2: Of her life since she'd given birth to Bambi.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're trying to recreate the magic of.
Speaker 2: The first trip.
Speaker 1: Was they filming for Prime still? Like they mentioned about
Speaker 1: a YouTube, but is this going to be on the show? Hopefully,
Speaker 1: surely it will be part of the documentary that winding
Speaker 1: up shots. It will be like and they all lived
Speaker 1: happily ever after.
Speaker 2: Imagine if Tommy.
Speaker 1: Proposes over there and that's the next series you have
Speaker 1: to propose again now that they've broken up, or if
Speaker 1: they get going together, does that mean they're still engaged.
Speaker 1: I know we're all very excited about it, but I
Speaker 1: do have a few concerns. This relationship only broke up
Speaker 1: seven months ago. I wonder if there has been enough
Speaker 1: time to iron out a lot of the issues that
Speaker 1: Tommy's had with alcohol. It seems like there were further
Speaker 1: issues with their relationship with his partying as well, and
Speaker 1: potential women that he'd been with. Well, we'll probably find
Speaker 1: out more in the documentary. And Kate, to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I think if you've broken up for seven months, you
Speaker 1: have to do another proposal.
Speaker 2: Another ring. Surely not that ring is big enough.
Speaker 1: Well, Molly's seemed really happy in a recent vlog, and
Speaker 1: she actually gushed about the upcoming holiday, saying, this.
Speaker 3: Going to Dubai with Bambi and we are going for
Speaker 3: a little holiday. But I feel like I'm going to
Speaker 3: like really have like some like nice time off and
Speaker 3: just like really switched off, Like I'm still going to
Speaker 3: post and stuff. It's needed this little trip. And I'm
Speaker 3: actually like very much as you guys know, like a
Speaker 3: home girl. I love my time at home. I never
Speaker 3: really crave the need to go away. Like I'm so
Speaker 3: content when I'm at home. It's at my happiest times.
Speaker 3: But recently I have been craving a little getaway and
Speaker 3: just some time to kind of just like.
Speaker 2: A skate I saw.
Speaker 1: There was so many comments and they were all like,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to say with you with Tommy, have
Speaker 1: a great time in Dubuy with Tommy. Well, she did
Speaker 1: admit the fact that she was going with Tommy and
Speaker 1: again it really does make me think that they have
Speaker 1: signed something with Prime. Well, the general consensus, I feel
Speaker 1: on TikTokers everyone is happy about this news. There was
Speaker 1: a TikToker who actually spotted the couple in Dubai, and
Speaker 1: she shared a post saying may or may not have
Speaker 1: just witnessed our favorite blonde with her baby girl and
Speaker 1: man in Dubai. I'm all and this led followers to write,
Speaker 1: I genuinely feel like they're on a make or break holiday.
Speaker 1: We're all rooting for them, whilst another said I love
Speaker 1: this one couple I want to work. There are, however,
Speaker 1: some people who don't actually think that this means that
Speaker 1: they're back together, and maybe they're just very mature and
Speaker 1: a co parenting way. There is no way you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be talking about how special this holiday is. You'd be
Speaker 1: talking about how challenging it is to be there with
Speaker 1: your ex well spare thought for the nanny, regardless of
Speaker 1: what kind of trip this is or what relationships sat
Speaker 1: as they are. It'd be fucking awkward, wouldn't it. But
Speaker 1: maybe it's good that there's someone else there to bounce
Speaker 1: off and you know, you kind of put more of
Speaker 1: an effort in when there's a third party.
Speaker 2: I never got that, Natty.
Speaker 1: But she's probably off with Bambi doing stuff, letting them
Speaker 1: have their alone time. I don't know if they're traveling
Speaker 1: around this So I think you need to spare a
Speaker 1: thought for Molly's sister Zoe. It is going to be
Speaker 1: really awkward for her because she was very vocal on
Speaker 1: the Prime doco about how she didn't think that they
Speaker 1: should get back together and that he was bad news
Speaker 1: and that she clastered with him. Well, what's even more
Speaker 1: awkward is that Zoe recently put out a vlog where
Speaker 1: she revealed that she and Danny are actually moving into
Speaker 1: Molly's house with her. So they live in quite a
Speaker 1: small apartment what looks like an apartment or a unit
Speaker 1: at the moment. And she said that now that she's
Speaker 1: an influencer, she's so inundated with packages and receiving goods
Speaker 1: that they actually don't have room in their house, so
Speaker 1: they don't have enough storage, so they were going to
Speaker 1: rent a house, and Molly called her up and said, well, hey,
Speaker 1: have you ever just considered temporarily moving in with me?
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying, well, does this
Speaker 1: mean that Tommy and Molly aren't getting back together.
Speaker 2: If they got a sister moving here.
Speaker 1: But this is also called Zoe and her husband are
Speaker 1: looking to buy a house.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean maybe it'll be for the short term.
Speaker 1: Maybe they need a buffer, Kate, as you were saying
Speaker 1: with the like, maybe they need Zoe and Danny there.
Speaker 1: You're not going to bring in a buffer who does
Speaker 1: not like your partner or ex partner. True. I think
Speaker 1: it's just a temporary fix while Molly needs a help
Speaker 1: of other babysitters.
Speaker 2: Really spend the morning with me. As a self employed
Speaker 2: Australian living in at.
Speaker 1: Bali, Talius Gaines has shocked her followers by revealing her
Speaker 1: three story villa in Iluatu is up for sale. The
Speaker 1: Bari based influencer has been documenting the build for the
Speaker 1: past two years and touted the luxury villa as her
Speaker 1: permanent home now. So if this villa was featured heavily
Speaker 1: in Talia's Gone, yeah, because a huge part of Talia's
Speaker 1: channel has been documenting this villa build. So she moved
Speaker 1: to Bali with her boyfriend Jake Sajano over two years
Speaker 1: ago and they've really taken followers along for the ride.
Speaker 1: We've been a fly on the wall for all of
Speaker 1: the site checks, the slab being laid, We've seen the
Speaker 1: pool going in recently. We also saw a bunch of
Speaker 1: custom furniture being installed and intry influencer style. They also
Speaker 1: made up a home account for the villa, which has
Speaker 1: six thousand followers, and they gave it a name because
Speaker 1: we know that Talia likes naming her village, because she
Speaker 1: had a villa with her ex boyfriend Mitch Third, which
Speaker 1: was called Villa Tami was at a combination of their names.
Speaker 2: I can't remember that it was Mitch and Talia.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now this villa is called Casas Sue, which means home
Speaker 1: at the end of the river.
Speaker 2: So even in the name, it has the word home
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: So there was a general vibe that this was going
Speaker 1: to be there. Maybe not forever home, but they're home for.
Speaker 2: At least a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Why does a distrmin me of ecken Sue Sue?
Speaker 2: What's bloody nice?
Speaker 1: When you say villa, you kind of think of, you know,
Speaker 1: a small maybe one or two bedrooms. This place is
Speaker 1: massive and the view is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: It is so luxurious. Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Would love to live in this house. It looks incredible.
Speaker 1: Tylia said that she wasn't actually planning on opening up
Speaker 1: about the sale so soon, because she said there's still
Speaker 1: several months until they officially move out, but she said
Speaker 1: that she'd been inundated with so many questions about the
Speaker 1: villa she felt as though she needed to open up,
Speaker 1: so she wrote in a Q and A on Instagram
Speaker 1: casas Sue actually just and up for sale. So many bittersweet,
Speaker 1: conflicting emotions. Sue is the most incredible home. I am
Speaker 1: beyond obsessed and she exceeded Sorry, for some reason, it
Speaker 1: cracks me up. They refer to the house as a woman,
Speaker 1: and she exceeded all expectations. I've honestly dreaded this day
Speaker 1: since before we even started building. But I'm also super
Speaker 1: excited for the future. That's a bit of a weird
Speaker 1: thing because it gives off the impression that they were
Speaker 1: always going to sell. Well. It comes as a shock
Speaker 1: to a lot of people because they only just completed
Speaker 1: the villa in September of last year, so they've really.
Speaker 2: Only lived there for a couple of months.
Speaker 1: When it's been completed, and there was a lot of
Speaker 1: speculation that maybe Talia and Jake might be moving back home,
Speaker 1: but they later confirmed that they're staying put in Bali. Well,
Speaker 1: he is a property developer and this is his bread
Speaker 1: and butter. But as you said, it was always touted
Speaker 1: as being their home. I wonder if they'd just got
Speaker 1: an offer that was too good to turn down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really confusing, Kate, because they never promoted it as
Speaker 1: an investment property. As you said, he is part of
Speaker 1: a development company in Bali which describes itself as his
Speaker 1: premiere property developer, called the Local Villa Group. And as
Speaker 1: you said, maybe it shouldn't come as such a surprise,
Speaker 1: but they never said it was an investment property. They
Speaker 1: said it was their dream home that they were building.
Speaker 1: And even up until recently, Taralia created a broadcast channel
Speaker 1: for Casasou and she wrote that she was struggling to
Speaker 1: sleep at night because she's that excited about the new
Speaker 1: house and she said it's my dream home and she
Speaker 1: just can't believe that she gets to wake up to
Speaker 1: this every day. Something is going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when Leah Atsinas put her house
Speaker 1: up on the market and then suddenly she's obviously moved
Speaker 1: to the Gold Coast, so there's always something going on.
Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't want to be in Iluatu anymore. I
Speaker 1: wonder if either a really great opportunity for land in
Speaker 1: a better spot has opened up, or there's a villa
Speaker 1: that they really want to renovate, because she mentioned in
Speaker 1: a recent YouTube video that she's working on a new
Speaker 1: project that she's not going to open up about until
Speaker 1: the end of the year, and she teased, if you
Speaker 1: like the journey of Casas Sue, you will like the
Speaker 1: latest projects. So maybe they see developing these villas as
Speaker 1: part of a content strategy and as part of her brand,
Speaker 1: and now that it's done a people going to lose
Speaker 1: interest in her content. So how did they actually make money?
Speaker 1: Because I understand if you are not a Balinese local,
Speaker 1: you can't actually purchase land. Yeah, it's really interesting because
Speaker 1: Australians can't own land outright in Bali. They have to
Speaker 1: be listed as a lease holder, so they can only
Speaker 1: acquire property rights through this leasehold agreement, where basically the
Speaker 1: property owner grants them the right to use and manage
Speaker 1: the property for a fixed period of time. In the
Speaker 1: case of Kasasu, the property has a lease hold until
Speaker 1: December twenty fifty six.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's a long time await.
Speaker 1: You touched on before, Kate that maybe Jake and Talia
Speaker 1: got an offer on the villa that was.
Speaker 2: Too good to be true.
Speaker 1: But they've actually listed it through a very popular Balinese
Speaker 1: realtor at the moment, so it's all over their social
Speaker 1: So it looks like they don't have a current buyer
Speaker 1: and they're putting a lot of marketing into trying to
Speaker 1: get the best price possible. It doesn't mean that they
Speaker 1: haven't been inundated with offers though, because Georgie Stevenson recently
Speaker 1: had some trouble selling her Gold Coast mansion. She's now
Speaker 1: actually renting it out. But it was actually passed in
Speaker 1: an auction for the first time they put it up
Speaker 1: for sale.
Speaker 2: But she had said that they had had so.
Speaker 1: Many different offers over the time that they owned the house,
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Were really big offers.
Speaker 1: So they probably had a few offers come in that
Speaker 1: they're like, we actually can't turn this down. Let's put
Speaker 1: it on the market and see how many more come
Speaker 1: in and pit these people.
Speaker 2: Against each other.
Speaker 1: I get the vibe that they plan to just sell
Speaker 1: this property all along, but maybe they thought Talia's followers
Speaker 1: would buy in more if they thought we're following the
Speaker 1: journey of you building your dream home as opposed to
Speaker 1: we're following the journey of you building an investment portfolio
Speaker 1: on property.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty earnest look at it. I
Speaker 1: think that there's more going on behind the scenes than
Speaker 1: we know. They might have run out of money and
Speaker 1: need to sell it's a heritage brand, but we're bringing
Speaker 1: it forward into twenty twenty five. Anticipation is growing for
Speaker 1: nine's new spin off of The Bachelor. The new series,
Speaker 1: called The Golden Bachelor, will see older contestants can heating
Speaker 1: for love with one familiar face getting viewers excited. Yeah
Speaker 1: so none of it than Abby Chatfield's mom, Laura, has
Speaker 1: been papped on the set of the new series, which
Speaker 1: is being filmed in Sydney.
Speaker 2: What an absolute get from the producers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it seemed like it was only going to
Speaker 1: be a matter of time before we saw Abby's mum
Speaker 1: popping up on a reality show, because in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Abby actually created a petition for her.
Speaker 2: Mom to become the Bachelorette. Oh I forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty three, Abby did an interview
Speaker 1: with the Sydney Morning Herald and she was talking about
Speaker 1: how amazing her mum would be if there was a
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette. So this was off the back of The
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor being commissioned in the US, so they've obviously
Speaker 1: headhunted her for the show. Yeah. A lot more of
Speaker 1: Laura also popping up on Abby's Instagram and TikTok. There
Speaker 1: was this funny video where Laura had purchased Adam and
Speaker 1: Abby this sex dice. Basically it had all these different
Speaker 1: positions for them to.
Speaker 2: Strive for her daughter. Yeah, and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what a character.
Speaker 1: It's very clever because Channel nine are going to get
Speaker 1: so much free social media publicity with Abby sharing about
Speaker 1: this series, and I think the connection to Abby is
Speaker 1: going to draw a lot of viewers in well. Abby
Speaker 1: has a connection with Chatel nine. She is a judge
Speaker 1: on the show, the mask singer, so it ties in
Speaker 1: really nicely for them. What's amusing is that the casting
Speaker 1: director has come out and said what a struggle it
Speaker 1: was to actually find contestants for this show, and it
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the age demographics. So
Speaker 1: the original call out said that they were looking for
Speaker 1: people between sixty and seventy five who were looking for
Speaker 1: the last great love of their life. The issue is
Speaker 1: that a lot of the people who applied apparently didn't
Speaker 1: know how to upload photos and videos online, so they've
Speaker 1: had to go to quite desperate attempts, so they've started
Speaker 1: contacting retirement homes. They also handsed out business cards to
Speaker 1: race goers at Royal Randwick and started advertising on the
Speaker 1: oldie radio stations like two GB and three AW to
Speaker 1: fill out this cast. I suppose the oldies also don't
Speaker 1: give a shit about their social media following, so they
Speaker 1: really do need to find older people who actually want
Speaker 1: to fall in love, and I think that's what's actually
Speaker 1: going to make this show good. People are going to
Speaker 1: be there for the right reasons and not to get
Speaker 1: fame on social media. That's one of the big reasons
Speaker 1: why The Bachelor got acts from Channel ten because people
Speaker 1: had enough of the series, because they were finding that
Speaker 1: most of the people who went on were only going
Speaker 1: on to become influencers and people were actually missing that
Speaker 1: true love story. Surely a lot of these people's kids
Speaker 1: are applying for them. Well, in the initial call out
Speaker 1: it did say if anyone knows of anyone that should
Speaker 1: be on the show, So surely these people's kids or
Speaker 1: grandkids can help them upload a video. Yeah. Well, ironically,
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor himself is actually a lot younger than
Speaker 1: what the casting agencies originally wanted, so he's only in
Speaker 1: his fifties. He's an infrastructure engineer from Sydney and he's
Speaker 1: been dubbed as a passionate sailor who has three sons
Speaker 1: between the ages of seventeen and twenty one.
Speaker 2: And that's a sad.
Speaker 1: Story because his wife, Audrey, passed away in twenty eleven
Speaker 1: after being diagnosed with an aggressive brain tumor.
Speaker 2: That's all for.
Speaker 1: What I found funny about the marketing of this show
Speaker 1: is they're trying to portray It's like all these oldies
Speaker 1: coming on. But this guy, he's not your typical fifty
Speaker 1: year old. He looks a bit like Tim Robarts, he's
Speaker 1: got a six path. Fifty is pretty young. But the
Speaker 1: fact they were going around to retirement village is to
Speaker 1: try and cast.
Speaker 2: For this show.
Speaker 1: I wonder how he's going to feel. I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's going to have a bit of a cougar vibe.
Speaker 1: If the cast of females are going to be in
Speaker 1: their seventies and he's only his fifties, it will.
Speaker 2: Be a bit weird.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently a source told The Daily Male that his
Speaker 1: sons are always complaining that he's bringing around the wrong
Speaker 1: kind of girls that are too young and hot for him.
Speaker 1: Oh so he's into the younger ones. Maybe he's on
Speaker 1: there to build his profile.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: Well, he is a lot younger than the US as
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor, so he was seventy two and he ended
Speaker 1: up marrying one of the contestants on a TV special,
Speaker 1: but they got divorced a few months later. But The
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor was a massive success in the US. It
Speaker 1: brought in over six point one million viewers for its
Speaker 1: finale episode, and that was the most watched Bachelor episode
Speaker 1: in three years. I think nine are hoping for the
Speaker 1: same success. It's because we want some good personalities, we
Speaker 1: want a real love story, and I think that it's
Speaker 1: something a.
Speaker 2: Little bit different.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're going for a bit more of
Speaker 1: a feel good vibe because they've got rid of Osha
Speaker 1: Samantha Armitage is hosting the show if I like that.
Speaker 1: She recently hosted Farmer Wants a Wife and that was
Speaker 1: very popular for being a bit more wholesome and authentic.
Speaker 1: They just need to get the casting right and also
Speaker 1: the promotion, because I always think the Aussie Bachelor has
Speaker 1: never been as good as the US one because they
Speaker 1: didn't go there with like the Fantasy Suite. They never
Speaker 1: had the Fantasy suite and the opportunity to forego their
Speaker 1: separate bedroom. I think The Bachelor was pretty good in
Speaker 1: the early stages, like the series where Maddie j got
Speaker 1: his heart broken.
Speaker 2: It was probably one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: It was good, but that's because we didn't have a
Speaker 1: streaming service and everyone was watching it at home together
Speaker 1: and it was like that water call the moment, like
Speaker 1: I remember at work before The Bachelor would air, everyone
Speaker 1: would have kind of like the Melbourne Cup where they
Speaker 1: cut up all the faces of the contestants and everyone
Speaker 1: would get one and see who won. But I think
Speaker 1: these contestants are going to be so much more likable because,
Speaker 1: as you said, Kate, they're not going to be looking
Speaker 1: for Instagram followers. And also the older you get, the
Speaker 1: less shit you give. Like I feel like there's going
Speaker 1: to be a lot of people who are going to
Speaker 1: be really genuine on there, and that's what people are
Speaker 1: calling out for. I mean we've even seen it. With
Speaker 1: Love Island UK, there was a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: how people aren't really wanting to tune into it anymore
Speaker 1: because a lot of the contestants are second guessing themselves
Speaker 1: because they know so many people are watching. I feel
Speaker 1: like the oldies know that people are watching.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just don't care shit.
Speaker 1: But look at say Molly May's grandma on her docco
Speaker 1: like she was performing to the camera, but it was
Speaker 1: comedy gold Like they just don't even know how funny
Speaker 1: they'd Yeah, and there was that popular reality show I
Speaker 1: think it was called My Mum Your Dad, Remember where
Speaker 1: the kids would watch their parents' interrouct I feel like
Speaker 1: it's going to be a bit like that.
Speaker 2: Queen, what are you saying?
Speaker 1: Quinn, Queen?
Speaker 2: You're queen, So I'm not here, I'm not Queen you
Speaker 2: you ean? Oh Queen, I'm actually a duchess.
Speaker 1: Now Mega Markles mad March continues. In the space of
Speaker 1: a month, she's released her Netflix lifestyle show and announced
Speaker 1: a second season, as well as rebranded her product range
Speaker 1: this week, she also revealed she's dropping a brand new
Speaker 1: podcast on April eight. For those following Megan closely, it's
Speaker 1: probably not a huge surprise because in February she signed
Speaker 1: with an American podcast distributor called Lemonader Media. I had
Speaker 1: never heard of them before, but they're best known for
Speaker 1: producing Julia Lewis Drivers' podcasts Elane from Seinfeld, and they
Speaker 1: also have about forty other podcasts within their network now.
Speaker 1: At the time, Meghan said that she was happy to
Speaker 1: be supporting a female founded company and continue her love
Speaker 1: of podcasting. It is unclear, though, how much this deal
Speaker 1: is worth, so her previous deal with Spotify for Archetypes
Speaker 1: was worth twenty million dollars. Well, they ended up dropping
Speaker 1: Megan's podcast in twenty twenty two or in The claim
Speaker 1: was that they mutually parted ways, but it was later
Speaker 1: reported that Meghan and Harry had failed to meet Spotify's
Speaker 1: productivity benchmark. But that's despite the fact that it seemed
Speaker 1: to actually rate quite well. I mean, I think there
Speaker 1: was probably a bit of hate listening going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 1: Personally listened to a few episodes and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't have an interest in listening anymore,
Speaker 1: but if people do want to listen to it a
Speaker 1: part of this new deal with Lemonader, they're actually redistributing archetypes.
Speaker 1: Remember there was a huge break between podcasts episodes because
Speaker 1: I think it was when the Queen passed away, and
Speaker 1: out of respect, they paused the series for a while,
Speaker 1: so it was really difficult for her to build any
Speaker 1: sort of momentum. Yeah, and it's kind of like her
Speaker 1: lifestyle show. A lot of people were annoyed that it
Speaker 1: was just this place to push her famous friendships because
Speaker 1: she had Serena Williams and Mariah Carey, Mindy Cator.
Speaker 2: I was interested to see.
Speaker 1: What Megan would come out with for hern X podcast.
Speaker 1: And the show is called Confessions of a Female Founder
Speaker 1: and it will be released weekly. So it's an eight
Speaker 1: part series and it's set to feature candid conversations between
Speaker 1: Meghan and other females who have launched successful businesses, because,
Speaker 1: as we know, Meghan is launching her new business, so
Speaker 1: the podcast is basically her picking the brains of other
Speaker 1: women who had great success in business. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like that as someone who is a female that has
Speaker 1: two businesses. I'm really excited to hopefully hear some insightful interviews,
Speaker 1: but it does have that two thy sixteen girl.
Speaker 2: Boss vibes, which I don't like.
Speaker 1: What I find amusing about the whole thing is even
Speaker 1: in Meghan's new show, they were kind of acting like
Speaker 1: she just started this small business, but it's like you
Speaker 1: were literally the duchess. Well, to be fair, when you
Speaker 1: look at it, she started off by selling jams, so
Speaker 1: that is a very small, local type of hus but
Speaker 1: with a huge in built following, it's got a bit
Speaker 1: of a head start on some of the smaller businesses
Speaker 1: business owners it.
Speaker 2: Might be listening.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see who she's going to interview because
Speaker 1: she has been criticized for the guests that she's had
Speaker 1: on her TV show. A lot of people have said,
Speaker 1: all these are meant to be your best friends, but
Speaker 1: seemed like none of you know each other. And then
Speaker 1: when it came to her podcast Archetypes, it was that
Speaker 1: she had two big of A celebrities on there, So
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what sort of entrepreneurs she's going to have
Speaker 1: on there. One thing that Megan and her team seem
Speaker 1: really good at is inclusivity.
Speaker 2: We saw it on the show.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to hear from a wide range
Speaker 1: of women from all walks of life, which will be great. Well, unsurprisingly,
Speaker 1: she's already been called a copycat by the media. Everything
Speaker 1: Megan seems to do, they seem to say, oh, someone
Speaker 1: else has done that. It's like, no, shit, it's a podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, it's an interview format. I mean yeah, it's run
Speaker 2: of the meal.
Speaker 1: Some people are saying it's very similar to the podcast
Speaker 1: Confessions of a CEO, while others are saying that she's
Speaker 1: stolen the podcast idea from YouTuber Katie Meet, who has
Speaker 1: a YouTube series called Confessions of a Female Founder, which
Speaker 1: is the exact name of Megan's podcast. I'm guessing the
Speaker 1: press is google the name of the podcast, and then
Speaker 1: they came across this YouTube and they're like, right.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Katie has publicly stated in her opinion that it's just
Speaker 1: a coincidence, and when asked about the similarity, she said,
Speaker 1: I completely understand why people are during connections and truly
Speaker 1: appreciate the support and understand their intention, but I also
Speaker 1: understand coincidence as well. This highly unlikely Megan ever came
Speaker 1: across my channel, But I am flattered by the thought.
Speaker 1: What does concern me is how quickly this is turning
Speaker 1: into another reason to drag a woman down. That's not
Speaker 1: something I want to contribute to. I know firsthand what
Speaker 1: it feels like to have my work actually copied.
Speaker 2: This isn't that.
Speaker 1: I love that she stood up for her. I know,
Speaker 1: it's so nice and it's very true what she said.
Speaker 1: It's like every time Meghan releases something new, everyone's on
Speaker 1: this witch hunt to find a problem with it. Well,
Speaker 1: particularly for Katie, who's built a YouTube channel on uplifting
Speaker 1: other women in business. She wouldn't want to look like
Speaker 1: she's dragging anyone down. To point out she has just
Speaker 1: over two thousand subscribers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like thet big thing.
Speaker 1: It is not like Meghan's probably one of those and
Speaker 1: his copied. She's probably loving the exposure for her YouTube
Speaker 1: channel being mentioned in these articles. And I mean, at
Speaker 1: this point in podcasting, nothing is a new idea. I
Speaker 1: mean is so oversaturated and there's only so many ideas
Speaker 1: that actually suit an audio platform. So many podcasts overlap.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when we first started and we
Speaker 1: were told that we were copying shameless and Shameless were
Speaker 1: told that they were copying Mama Mir and The High Low.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, people can have an interview podcast
Speaker 1: where they talk to female founders. It's going to be different.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be exactly like the out there.
Speaker 1: The draw card is Megan. Yeah, why people are going
Speaker 1: to listen? As you say, Okay, it's just a genre
Speaker 1: of podcasts. But do you notice that this type of
Speaker 1: criticism is only usually leveled at females. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never heard anyone accuse any of the sports shows of copying. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: oh that footy podcast, probably because no one wants to
Speaker 1: fucking listen to that. But in terms of this concept,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Is this something you want
Speaker 1: to hear Megan talk about or is there something else
Speaker 1: you'd prefer. Well, it's difficult for her, isn't it. Well
Speaker 1: she's dis the dirt on the Royals, which is what
Speaker 1: I want. I mean, yeah, that's that's the number one
Speaker 1: thing i'd want to hear. I'd love to hear the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of suits and her acting career. I
Speaker 1: want to hear more about her and her life. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to hear her interview other people, But
Speaker 1: from the perspective, as I said, of someone who runs
Speaker 1: a business, I will be interested to hear the insights
Speaker 1: from other women. And we've seen from her shows and
Speaker 1: her in the media that she's very smart, she's very articulate.
Speaker 2: I think she's going to do a good job interviewing them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think what people want from her is authenticity,
Speaker 1: and podcast format allows you to be a bit more
Speaker 1: off the cuff, to be relatable, and I think that
Speaker 1: she really needs to show a more unpolished side of
Speaker 1: herself and to be a little bit more self deprecating,
Speaker 1: and maybe be talk about the struggles that she's actually
Speaker 1: had with her business, particularly the trademarking issues, which are
Speaker 1: clearly a big issue. I mean, the fact that she
Speaker 1: hasn't even released any of her products in line with
Speaker 1: her Netflix show is clearly a big problem for her.
Speaker 1: I would really love to hear what has actually been
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. Maybe that's why she's delayed
Speaker 1: and not actually spoken about it.
Speaker 2: She's saving it for a while.
Speaker 1: I highly doubt she'd be talking about this. This is
Speaker 1: going to be more of an inspirational podcast. One other
Speaker 1: thing I would like to hear from her podcast. If
Speaker 1: I could have my pick is her in Harry Oh,
Speaker 1: I would just find it fascinating. I know we heard
Speaker 1: a bit about their love story in the doco they
Speaker 1: did for Netflix, but I'd like to hear more about it.
Speaker 1: I'd like them to do Is it that one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty questions that make you fall in love? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be amazing.
Speaker 3: You do what did you say the question?
Speaker 2: Yes? UK.
Speaker 1: Love Island contestant Luca Busch has sparked debate about extravagant
Speaker 1: proposals after setting up a lavish display for his Love
Speaker 1: Island co star Grace Jackson. So Luca pulled out all
Speaker 1: the stops during a pay trip to Abby Dab with
Speaker 1: a stunning floral setup on the beach. It was very
Speaker 1: reminiscent of when Travis Barker proposed to Courtney Kardashian, except
Speaker 1: it had a white theme. Instead, there were a lot
Speaker 1: of white roses. There was a huge neon sign. It
Speaker 1: looked absolutely stunning. I mean, it was quite clear that
Speaker 1: Luca had nothing to do with actually setting it up.
Speaker 1: It would have been some sort of party planner. But
Speaker 1: the kicker to all all of this was the sign
Speaker 1: read will you be my girlfriend. So this wasn't even
Speaker 1: a marriage proposal. This was Luca asking Grace to be
Speaker 1: his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Well, this isn't new behavior from Luca. Bish.
Speaker 1: Last time he was on Love Island a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, he did a very extravagant girlfriend proposal to
Speaker 1: Gemma Owen. Yeah, so people are slamming him. They're saying
Speaker 1: he's just rehashed the same proposal he did for Jemma.
Speaker 1: But I had to look back and I actually think
Speaker 1: his first girlfriend proposal was more extravagant because he did
Speaker 1: it at her family home, which is this huge mansion
Speaker 1: in the UK, because her dad is a famous soccer
Speaker 1: player yeah, not short of money. Yeah, and he had
Speaker 1: a cello player there. He had a Cartier bracelet waiting
Speaker 1: for her. There were balloons in the pool which spelt
Speaker 1: out will you be my girlfriend? And he even hired
Speaker 1: a videographer. So I wonder if Grace would look back
Speaker 1: at that and go, wait a secon this wasn't as nice.
Speaker 1: Another Saw point might be that this post appears to
Speaker 1: have been sponsored, like the whole trip they were on
Speaker 1: was sponsored in Abu Dhabi. So on Instagram, he shared
Speaker 1: the photos and wrote I'll keep this one, and he
Speaker 1: tagged a beach club saying thank you for bringing my
Speaker 1: vision to life so perfectly. Wouldn't have wanted to do
Speaker 1: this in any other place. I'm not surprised that this
Speaker 1: was sponsored. It's clear that as soon as the guys
Speaker 1: leave Love Island and they're with a partner, some party
Speaker 1: planner or event person reaches out and says, hey, can
Speaker 1: we do something extravagant? Because I saw Ronnie and Harriet
Speaker 1: they had the similar sort of thing where Ronnie had
Speaker 1: filled the whole room with balloons, like it's nothing new.
Speaker 2: And what's quite.
Speaker 1: Interesting though, is jen Za's in particular think that they
Speaker 1: need to have a really grand way to ask people
Speaker 1: to be their boyfriend or girlfriend. It's the same with
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Now you've got to ask someone to be
Speaker 1: your Valentine. You don't just assume. And it was quite
Speaker 1: interesting because I was looking at the comment section and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of millennials saying I didn't even
Speaker 1: have a conversation with my partner about this, like I'm
Speaker 1: about being boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker 2: It was a shoe.
Speaker 1: Well, one of our listeners said, my husband just changed
Speaker 1: his Facebook relationships data, and I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: guess I'm his girlfriend now. But isn't this a step
Speaker 1: up from what we used to experience in our early
Speaker 1: twenties because the guys that I dated never ever wanted
Speaker 1: to put a label on something and then you had
Speaker 1: to have this awkward conversation about what are we am?
Speaker 1: But I actually think it makes it harder because it
Speaker 1: makes it look like it's an even bigger deal to
Speaker 1: just be in a relationships at the end of Instagram,
Speaker 1: because it looks like it's some massive.
Speaker 2: Proposal at least she proposed.
Speaker 1: At least it's kind of like, well, this is the
Speaker 1: done thing, so we mustn't be boyfriend and girlfriend because
Speaker 1: I haven't. But I just think it shouldn't be that
Speaker 1: big of a deal to be boyfriend and girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: mean in saying that I expected for my husband now
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time to ask me to be his girlfriend,
Speaker 1: but he said he didn't know that that was a thing.
Speaker 2: And I think it's because my first.
Speaker 1: Boyfriend asked me by giving me flowers and it was
Speaker 1: a big deal on sign Well the reason but the
Speaker 1: reason that he made it a big deal was because
Speaker 1: literally rewind a couple of weeks before, and he was
Speaker 1: off on a med camp sleeping with a bunch of
Speaker 1: about the girls. So I think that I was going
Speaker 1: to ask Kate, how did res ask you to be
Speaker 1: his girlfriend? I think I was just a general understanding
Speaker 1: that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't think we'd
Speaker 1: use the label when I visited his parents, and I
Speaker 1: think once you're visiting the parents, you are. That's the
Speaker 1: day I lasked me. He literally said, will you be
Speaker 1: my girlfriend? I mean, it wasn't as grand as Luca
Speaker 1: Bish's a proposal. What do you do if, like say,
Speaker 1: Luca Bish ends up with Grace, what's he going to
Speaker 1: do for the engagement?
Speaker 2: Like, you know, how do you top that? I didn't
Speaker 2: watch the full.
Speaker 1: Series of Love Island. I had to tap out because
Speaker 1: it just got quite boring. But Luca Bish is one
Speaker 1: of my favorites, and I really like Grace as well.
Speaker 2: I have watched both of.
Speaker 1: Their seasons individually, and I don't see this relationship lasting.
Speaker 2: I like them together, I don't like them together either.
Speaker 1: I think that they're both lovely individually, but they just
Speaker 1: don't seem to match well. And I think that this
Speaker 1: will be a very short lived relationship. I think that
Speaker 1: this might be similar to his relationship with Gemma Owen.
Speaker 1: I think that this big grand proposal could be the
Speaker 1: kiss of death.
Speaker 2: Maybe it might.
Speaker 1: It might give the part the girls a bit of
Speaker 1: the One listener compared the proposal to you remember on
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach, Remember when they'd.
Speaker 2: Ask if they'd go to prom with the That is
Speaker 2: such a good call.
Speaker 1: It was cute, though it wouldn't it be so great
Speaker 1: being a high school and the guy that you like
Speaker 1: does something really creative and cute, like yeah, again, if
Speaker 1: you're on the other end of it and no one
Speaker 1: asks you quite heartbreak. I pulled our listeners on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I asked, is the girlfriend proposal over the top?
Speaker 1: And eighty nine percent of you said it was over
Speaker 1: the top. Well, eleven percent said all guys should do this.
Speaker 2: I think this.
Speaker 1: Reflects our strong millennial listener base, because I think that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of listeners who probably weren't even proposed
Speaker 1: to win such a grand way like this and think
Speaker 1: it's it's.
Speaker 2: Almost seems very showy and all.
Speaker 1: For Instagram, a lot of people said it's just cringe.
Speaker 1: It is cringe. Well, that's where we're going to leave
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