WEBVTT - The Shock Reconciliation Vacay 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tali Escane

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<v Speaker 1>Shock's followers by listing Dream Barley Villa for sale, the

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<v Speaker 1>surprise contestants set to appear on the New Bachelor spin off,

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<v Speaker 1>and Megan Markle's Mad March continues.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, Molly May and.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Fury have all but confirmed their back together after

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<v Speaker 1>jetting off on a family holiday to their happy place, Dubai.

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<v Speaker 1>The reunion comes seven months after the Shock split following

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy's issues with alcohol. So if, an eagle eyed fan

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<v Speaker 1>was the first to raise the alarm on Thursday, spotting

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<v Speaker 1>them at Manchester Airport.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This photo was all over by fu page and it

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<v Speaker 1>showed the family of three lining up to board their flight. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>UK tabloid The Sun ran with the photos straight away,

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<v Speaker 1>reporting that they were accompanied by a nanny so they

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<v Speaker 1>could spend more alone time together. The tabloid also spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to online One Sauce said you would never know the

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<v Speaker 1>troubles they've been through. They look like just a normal couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy was very protective of Molly and Bamby, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Nanny helped with the luggage. Boarding the Emirates flight, they

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<v Speaker 1>took the fast track lane and flew business class, but

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<v Speaker 1>were recognized by other passengers. Another said people were delighted

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<v Speaker 1>to see them together, but they kept to themselves. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if this was a situation where people just felt

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<v Speaker 1>too awkward to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>For a photo. Oh yeah, I would not have gone off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people aren't really socially aware

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<v Speaker 1>when they come across celebrities, and they wouldn't have respected

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<v Speaker 1>that it was awkward. Well, they don't appear to be

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<v Speaker 1>hiding the fact they're away together, because both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are posting about being in Dubai. They haven't yet posted

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<v Speaker 1>any photos of them together, but all of their photos

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<v Speaker 1>are in the same resort. It's with their daughter Bambe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing, because straight away the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>started touting this as a secret reconciliation holiday. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they both thought, well, everyone's talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>we may.

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<v Speaker 2>As well post about the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anyone notice that Tommy's photo were a lot better

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<v Speaker 1>now on his Instagram story?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, clearly Molly has.

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<v Speaker 1>Taken this, but it's not a shot of his Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>roast with a Coca Cola. Well, he's been taking some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice photos of her as well, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>read a lot into the captions because Molly keeps calling

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<v Speaker 1>this her special place. And Tommy also uploaded a video

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<v Speaker 1>of him with Bambi and he was floating on a

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<v Speaker 1>pool toy with her and he said the dream. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that they are trying to soft launch

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<v Speaker 1>that they're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not a soft launch, this is a hard launch.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they are contractually obligated not to publicly

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<v Speaker 1>say that they're back together. Perhaps perhaps Prime has said

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say it until we air this docor otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>no one's going to watch. I think they know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving the fans what they want as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're confident that everyone's going to be a static,

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<v Speaker 1>Well most people are going to be a static that

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<v Speaker 1>they're back together, So they feel okay to be posting

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<v Speaker 1>it because it looks like the most wholesome true I

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<v Speaker 1>just hope they're vlogging it. You know, maybe they can't

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<v Speaker 1>put it out right away, but common can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if you were at the resort watching this, This would

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<v Speaker 1>be the best people watching ever. Well, Molly actually put

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<v Speaker 1>up a photo of Bambi playing with this older group

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<v Speaker 1>of kids and was gushing about how beautiful it was

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<v Speaker 1>and they took such good care of her.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the parents of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those kids were like, go over there, now, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Another photo on Molly's story caught my eye.

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<v Speaker 1>It was of like a can of coke and then

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<v Speaker 1>what looked like two watermelon cocktails, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they mocktails or karely they're mocktails. At first I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe the soft drink was for Bamby, but now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking maybe it was for the nanny. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>were all just having a drink together and maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>were mock taps. Look, they're pretty loaded. They might just

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<v Speaker 1>have bought two drinks. Molly might have bought two drinks

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<v Speaker 1>for herself. Oh, I was just more concerned about the

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol and it just had her mum in the docker

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<v Speaker 1>ringing in my ear. That every occasion seemed to turn

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<v Speaker 1>negative with Tommy and alcohol. So I'm very much hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that they are mockedtails. It's kind of a strange thing

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<v Speaker 1>to post. If you're back with Tommy. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>they've chosen Dubai for a specific reason. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>first holiday that they went on with their daughter, Bamby.

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<v Speaker 1>She was only three months old when they took there,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time, Molly described it as the happiest time.

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<v Speaker 2>Of her life since she'd given birth to Bambi.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're trying to recreate the magic of.

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<v Speaker 2>The first trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Was they filming for Prime still? Like they mentioned about

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube, but is this going to be on the show? Hopefully,

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<v Speaker 1>surely it will be part of the documentary that winding

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<v Speaker 1>up shots. It will be like and they all lived

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<v Speaker 1>happily ever after.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Proposes over there and that's the next series you have

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<v Speaker 1>to propose again now that they've broken up, or if

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<v Speaker 1>they get going together, does that mean they're still engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're all very excited about it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a few concerns. This relationship only broke up

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<v Speaker 1>seven months ago. I wonder if there has been enough

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<v Speaker 1>time to iron out a lot of the issues that

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy's had with alcohol. It seems like there were further

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<v Speaker 1>issues with their relationship with his partying as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>potential women that he'd been with. Well, we'll probably find

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<v Speaker 1>out more in the documentary. And Kate, to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you've broken up for seven months, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do another proposal.

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<v Speaker 2>Another ring. Surely not that ring is big enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Molly's seemed really happy in a recent vlog, and

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<v Speaker 1>she actually gushed about the upcoming holiday, saying, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to Dubai with Bambi and we are going for

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<v Speaker 3>a little holiday. But I feel like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>like really have like some like nice time off and

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<v Speaker 3>just like really switched off, Like I'm still going to

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<v Speaker 3>post and stuff. It's needed this little trip. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually like very much as you guys know, like a

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<v Speaker 3>home girl. I love my time at home. I never

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<v Speaker 3>really crave the need to go away. Like I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>content when I'm at home. It's at my happiest times.

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<v Speaker 3>But recently I have been craving a little getaway and

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<v Speaker 3>just some time to kind of just like.

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<v Speaker 2>A skate I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>There was so many comments and they were all like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to say with you with Tommy, have

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<v Speaker 1>a great time in Dubuy with Tommy. Well, she did

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<v Speaker 1>admit the fact that she was going with Tommy and

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<v Speaker 1>again it really does make me think that they have

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<v Speaker 1>signed something with Prime. Well, the general consensus, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTokers everyone is happy about this news. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a TikToker who actually spotted the couple in Dubai, and

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<v Speaker 1>she shared a post saying may or may not have

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<v Speaker 1>just witnessed our favorite blonde with her baby girl and

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<v Speaker 1>man in Dubai. I'm all and this led followers to write,

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely feel like they're on a make or break holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all rooting for them, whilst another said I love

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<v Speaker 1>this one couple I want to work. There are, however,

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<v Speaker 1>some people who don't actually think that this means that

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<v Speaker 1>they're back together, and maybe they're just very mature and

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<v Speaker 1>a co parenting way. There is no way you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about how special this holiday is. You'd be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how challenging it is to be there with

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<v Speaker 1>your ex well spare thought for the nanny, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of trip this is or what relationships sat

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<v Speaker 1>as they are. It'd be fucking awkward, wouldn't it. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's good that there's someone else there to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>off and you know, you kind of put more of

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<v Speaker 1>an effort in when there's a third party.

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<v Speaker 2>I never got that, Natty.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's probably off with Bambi doing stuff, letting them

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<v Speaker 1>have their alone time. I don't know if they're traveling

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<v Speaker 1>around this So I think you need to spare a

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<v Speaker 1>thought for Molly's sister Zoe. It is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really awkward for her because she was very vocal on

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime doco about how she didn't think that they

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<v Speaker 1>should get back together and that he was bad news

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<v Speaker 1>and that she clastered with him. Well, what's even more

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<v Speaker 1>awkward is that Zoe recently put out a vlog where

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<v Speaker 1>she revealed that she and Danny are actually moving into

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<v Speaker 1>Molly's house with her. So they live in quite a

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<v Speaker 1>small apartment what looks like an apartment or a unit

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. And she said that now that she's

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<v Speaker 1>an influencer, she's so inundated with packages and receiving goods

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<v Speaker 1>that they actually don't have room in their house, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have enough storage, so they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>rent a house, and Molly called her up and said, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever just considered temporarily moving in with me?

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of people are saying, well, does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean that Tommy and Molly aren't getting back together.

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<v Speaker 2>If they got a sister moving here.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is also called Zoe and her husband are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean maybe it'll be for the short term.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they need a buffer, Kate, as you were saying

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<v Speaker 1>with the like, maybe they need Zoe and Danny there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to bring in a buffer who does

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<v Speaker 1>not like your partner or ex partner. True. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a temporary fix while Molly needs a help

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<v Speaker 1>of other babysitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Really spend the morning with me. As a self employed

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<v Speaker 2>Australian living in at.

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<v Speaker 1>Bali, Talius Gaines has shocked her followers by revealing her

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<v Speaker 1>three story villa in Iluatu is up for sale. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bari based influencer has been documenting the build for the

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<v Speaker 1>past two years and touted the luxury villa as her

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<v Speaker 1>permanent home now. So if this villa was featured heavily

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<v Speaker 1>in Talia's Gone, yeah, because a huge part of Talia's

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<v Speaker 1>channel has been documenting this villa build. So she moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Bali with her boyfriend Jake Sajano over two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and they've really taken followers along for the ride.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been a fly on the wall for all of

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<v Speaker 1>the site checks, the slab being laid, We've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>pool going in recently. We also saw a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>custom furniture being installed and intry influencer style. They also

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<v Speaker 1>made up a home account for the villa, which has

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand followers, and they gave it a name because

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<v Speaker 1>we know that Talia likes naming her village, because she

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<v Speaker 1>had a villa with her ex boyfriend Mitch Third, which

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<v Speaker 1>was called Villa Tami was at a combination of their names.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember that it was Mitch and Talia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this villa is called Casas Sue, which means home

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the river.

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<v Speaker 2>So even in the name, it has the word home

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a general vibe that this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. Maybe not forever home, but they're home for.

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<v Speaker 2>At least a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does a distrmin me of ecken Sue Sue?

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<v Speaker 2>What's bloody nice?

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<v Speaker 1>When you say villa, you kind of think of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a small maybe one or two bedrooms. This place is

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<v Speaker 1>massive and the view is absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so luxurious. Yeah, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would love to live in this house. It looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Tylia said that she wasn't actually planning on opening up

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<v Speaker 1>about the sale so soon, because she said there's still

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<v Speaker 1>several months until they officially move out, but she said

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<v Speaker 1>that she'd been inundated with so many questions about the

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<v Speaker 1>villa she felt as though she needed to open up,

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<v Speaker 1>so she wrote in a Q and A on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>casas Sue actually just and up for sale. So many bittersweet,

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<v Speaker 1>conflicting emotions. Sue is the most incredible home. I am

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<v Speaker 1>beyond obsessed and she exceeded Sorry, for some reason, it

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<v Speaker 1>cracks me up. They refer to the house as a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and she exceeded all expectations. I've honestly dreaded this day

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<v Speaker 1>since before we even started building. But I'm also super

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<v Speaker 1>excited for the future. That's a bit of a weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing because it gives off the impression that they were

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<v Speaker 1>always going to sell. Well. It comes as a shock

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people because they only just completed

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<v Speaker 1>the villa in September of last year, so they've really.

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<v Speaker 2>Only lived there for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's been completed, and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that maybe Talia and Jake might be moving back home,

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<v Speaker 1>but they later confirmed that they're staying put in Bali. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a property developer and this is his bread

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<v Speaker 1>and butter. But as you said, it was always touted

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<v Speaker 1>as being their home. I wonder if they'd just got

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<v Speaker 1>an offer that was too good to turn down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really confusing, Kate, because they never promoted it as

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<v Speaker 1>an investment property. As you said, he is part of

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<v Speaker 1>a development company in Bali which describes itself as his

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<v Speaker 1>premiere property developer, called the Local Villa Group. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, maybe it shouldn't come as such a surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>but they never said it was an investment property. They

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<v Speaker 1>said it was their dream home that they were building.

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<v Speaker 1>And even up until recently, Taralia created a broadcast channel

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<v Speaker 1>for Casasou and she wrote that she was struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at night because she's that excited about the new

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<v Speaker 1>house and she said it's my dream home and she

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<v Speaker 1>just can't believe that she gets to wake up to

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<v Speaker 1>this every day. Something is going on behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember when Leah Atsinas put her house

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<v Speaker 1>up on the market and then suddenly she's obviously moved

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<v Speaker 1>to the Gold Coast, so there's always something going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she doesn't want to be in Iluatu anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if either a really great opportunity for land in

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<v Speaker 1>a better spot has opened up, or there's a villa

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<v Speaker 1>that they really want to renovate, because she mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>a recent YouTube video that she's working on a new

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<v Speaker 1>project that she's not going to open up about until

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, and she teased, if you

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<v Speaker 1>like the journey of Casas Sue, you will like the

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<v Speaker 1>latest projects. So maybe they see developing these villas as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a content strategy and as part of her brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that it's done a people going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>interest in her content. So how did they actually make money?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I understand if you are not a Balinese local,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't actually purchase land. Yeah, it's really interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>Australians can't own land outright in Bali. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>be listed as a lease holder, so they can only

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<v Speaker 1>acquire property rights through this leasehold agreement, where basically the

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<v Speaker 1>property owner grants them the right to use and manage

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<v Speaker 1>the property for a fixed period of time. In the

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<v Speaker 1>case of Kasasu, the property has a lease hold until

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<v Speaker 1>December twenty fifty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's a long time await.

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<v Speaker 1>You touched on before, Kate that maybe Jake and Talia

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<v Speaker 1>got an offer on the villa that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Too good to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've actually listed it through a very popular Balinese

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<v Speaker 1>realtor at the moment, so it's all over their social

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like they don't have a current buyer

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<v Speaker 1>and they're putting a lot of marketing into trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the best price possible. It doesn't mean that they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been inundated with offers though, because Georgie Stevenson recently

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<v Speaker 1>had some trouble selling her Gold Coast mansion. She's now

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<v Speaker 1>actually renting it out. But it was actually passed in

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<v Speaker 1>an auction for the first time they put it up

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<v Speaker 1>for sale.

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<v Speaker 2>But she had said that they had had so.

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<v Speaker 1>Many different offers over the time that they owned the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were really big offers.

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<v Speaker 1>So they probably had a few offers come in that

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, we actually can't turn this down. Let's put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the market and see how many more come

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<v Speaker 1>in and pit these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Against each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the vibe that they plan to just sell

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<v Speaker 1>this property all along, but maybe they thought Talia's followers

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<v Speaker 1>would buy in more if they thought we're following the

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<v Speaker 1>journey of you building your dream home as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>we're following the journey of you building an investment portfolio

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<v Speaker 1>on property.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a pretty earnest look at it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there's more going on behind the scenes than

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<v Speaker 1>we know. They might have run out of money and

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<v Speaker 1>need to sell it's a heritage brand, but we're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it forward into twenty twenty five. Anticipation is growing for

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<v Speaker 1>nine's new spin off of The Bachelor. The new series,

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<v Speaker 1>called The Golden Bachelor, will see older contestants can heating

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<v Speaker 1>for love with one familiar face getting viewers excited. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>so none of it than Abby Chatfield's mom, Laura, has

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<v Speaker 1>been papped on the set of the new series, which

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<v Speaker 1>is being filmed in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>What an absolute get from the producers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it seemed like it was only going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a matter of time before we saw Abby's mum

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<v Speaker 1>popping up on a reality show, because in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Abby actually created a petition for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom to become the Bachelorette. Oh I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in twenty twenty three, Abby did an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with the Sydney Morning Herald and she was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how amazing her mum would be if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Bachelorette. So this was off the back of The

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Bachelor being commissioned in the US, so they've obviously

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<v Speaker 1>headhunted her for the show. Yeah. A lot more of

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<v Speaker 1>Laura also popping up on Abby's Instagram and TikTok. There

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<v Speaker 1>was this funny video where Laura had purchased Adam and

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<v Speaker 1>Abby this sex dice. Basically it had all these different

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<v Speaker 1>positions for them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Strive for her daughter. Yeah, and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, what a character.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very clever because Channel nine are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>so much free social media publicity with Abby sharing about

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<v Speaker 1>this series, and I think the connection to Abby is

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<v Speaker 1>going to draw a lot of viewers in well. Abby

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<v Speaker 1>has a connection with Chatel nine. She is a judge

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, the mask singer, so it ties in

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<v Speaker 1>really nicely for them. What's amusing is that the casting

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<v Speaker 1>director has come out and said what a struggle it

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<v Speaker 1>was to actually find contestants for this show, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot to do with the age demographics. So

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<v Speaker 1>the original call out said that they were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>people between sixty and seventy five who were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the last great love of their life. The issue is

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of the people who applied apparently didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to upload photos and videos online, so they've

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to quite desperate attempts, so they've started

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<v Speaker 1>contacting retirement homes. They also handsed out business cards to

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<v Speaker 1>race goers at Royal Randwick and started advertising on the

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<v Speaker 1>oldie radio stations like two GB and three AW to

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<v Speaker 1>fill out this cast. I suppose the oldies also don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit about their social media following, so they

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<v Speaker 1>really do need to find older people who actually want

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<v Speaker 1>to fall in love, and I think that's what's actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to make this show good. People are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for the right reasons and not to get

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<v Speaker 1>fame on social media. That's one of the big reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why The Bachelor got acts from Channel ten because people

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<v Speaker 1>had enough of the series, because they were finding that

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<v Speaker 1>most of the people who went on were only going

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<v Speaker 1>on to become influencers and people were actually missing that

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<v Speaker 1>true love story. Surely a lot of these people's kids

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<v Speaker 1>are applying for them. Well, in the initial call out

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<v Speaker 1>it did say if anyone knows of anyone that should

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<v Speaker 1>be on the show, So surely these people's kids or

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<v Speaker 1>grandkids can help them upload a video. Yeah. Well, ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Bachelor himself is actually a lot younger than

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<v Speaker 1>what the casting agencies originally wanted, so he's only in

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<v Speaker 1>his fifties. He's an infrastructure engineer from Sydney and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been dubbed as a passionate sailor who has three sons

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<v Speaker 1>between the ages of seventeen and twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Story because his wife, Audrey, passed away in twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>after being diagnosed with an aggressive brain tumor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all for.

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<v Speaker 1>What I found funny about the marketing of this show

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<v Speaker 1>is they're trying to portray It's like all these oldies

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. But this guy, he's not your typical fifty

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<v Speaker 1>year old. He looks a bit like Tim Robarts, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a six path. Fifty is pretty young. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact they were going around to retirement village is to

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<v Speaker 1>try and cast.

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<v Speaker 2>For this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how he's going to feel. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to have a bit of a cougar vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>If the cast of females are going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>their seventies and he's only his fifties, it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently a source told The Daily Male that his

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<v Speaker 1>sons are always complaining that he's bringing around the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>kind of girls that are too young and hot for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so he's into the younger ones. Maybe he's on

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<v Speaker 1>there to build his profile.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he is a lot younger than the US as

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Bachelor, so he was seventy two and he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up marrying one of the contestants on a TV special,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got divorced a few months later. But The

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Bachelor was a massive success in the US. It

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<v Speaker 1>brought in over six point one million viewers for its

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<v Speaker 1>finale episode, and that was the most watched Bachelor episode

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<v Speaker 1>in three years. I think nine are hoping for the

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<v Speaker 1>same success. It's because we want some good personalities, we

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<v Speaker 1>want a real love story, and I think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>something a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they're going for a bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>a feel good vibe because they've got rid of Osha

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha Armitage is hosting the show if I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She recently hosted Farmer Wants a Wife and that was

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<v Speaker 1>very popular for being a bit more wholesome and authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>They just need to get the casting right and also

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<v Speaker 1>the promotion, because I always think the Aussie Bachelor has

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<v Speaker 1>never been as good as the US one because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go there with like the Fantasy Suite. They never

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<v Speaker 1>had the Fantasy suite and the opportunity to forego their

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<v Speaker 1>separate bedroom. I think The Bachelor was pretty good in

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<v Speaker 1>the early stages, like the series where Maddie j got

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<v Speaker 1>his heart broken.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good, but that's because we didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>streaming service and everyone was watching it at home together

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like that water call the moment, like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember at work before The Bachelor would air, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would have kind of like the Melbourne Cup where they

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<v Speaker 1>cut up all the faces of the contestants and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would get one and see who won. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>these contestants are going to be so much more likable because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, Kate, they're not going to be looking

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<v Speaker 1>for Instagram followers. And also the older you get, the

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<v Speaker 1>less shit you give. Like I feel like there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of people who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be really genuine on there, and that's what people are

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<v Speaker 1>calling out for. I mean we've even seen it. With

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island UK, there was a lot of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how people aren't really wanting to tune into it anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the contestants are second guessing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>because they know so many people are watching. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the oldies know that people are watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they just don't care shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But look at say Molly May's grandma on her docco

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<v Speaker 1>like she was performing to the camera, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>comedy gold Like they just don't even know how funny

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<v Speaker 1>they'd Yeah, and there was that popular reality show I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was called My Mum Your Dad, Remember where

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<v Speaker 1>the kids would watch their parents' interrouct I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a bit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Queen, what are you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn, Queen?

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<v Speaker 2>You're queen, So I'm not here, I'm not Queen you

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<v Speaker 2>you ean? Oh Queen, I'm actually a duchess.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Mega Markles mad March continues. In the space of

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<v Speaker 1>a month, she's released her Netflix lifestyle show and announced

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<v Speaker 1>a second season, as well as rebranded her product range

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<v Speaker 1>this week, she also revealed she's dropping a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on April eight. For those following Megan closely, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not a huge surprise because in February she signed

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<v Speaker 1>with an American podcast distributor called Lemonader Media. I had

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of them before, but they're best known for

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<v Speaker 1>producing Julia Lewis Drivers' podcasts Elane from Seinfeld, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also have about forty other podcasts within their network now.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, Meghan said that she was happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be supporting a female founded company and continue her love

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<v Speaker 1>of podcasting. It is unclear, though, how much this deal

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<v Speaker 1>is worth, so her previous deal with Spotify for Archetypes

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<v Speaker 1>was worth twenty million dollars. Well, they ended up dropping

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<v Speaker 1>Megan's podcast in twenty twenty two or in The claim

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<v Speaker 1>was that they mutually parted ways, but it was later

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<v Speaker 1>reported that Meghan and Harry had failed to meet Spotify's

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<v Speaker 1>productivity benchmark. But that's despite the fact that it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to actually rate quite well. I mean, I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was probably a bit of hate listening going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Personally listened to a few episodes and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really, I don't have an interest in listening anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but if people do want to listen to it a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this new deal with Lemonader, they're actually redistributing archetypes.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember there was a huge break between podcasts episodes because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was when the Queen passed away, and

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<v Speaker 1>out of respect, they paused the series for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was really difficult for her to build any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of momentum. Yeah, and it's kind of like her

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle show. A lot of people were annoyed that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just this place to push her famous friendships because

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<v Speaker 1>she had Serena Williams and Mariah Carey, Mindy Cator.

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<v Speaker 2>I was interested to see.

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<v Speaker 1>What Megan would come out with for hern X podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And the show is called Confessions of a Female Founder

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be released weekly. So it's an eight

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<v Speaker 1>part series and it's set to feature candid conversations between

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan and other females who have launched successful businesses, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, Meghan is launching her new business, so

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast is basically her picking the brains of other

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<v Speaker 1>women who had great success in business. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like that as someone who is a female that has

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<v Speaker 1>two businesses. I'm really excited to hopefully hear some insightful interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does have that two thy sixteen girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Boss vibes, which I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>What I find amusing about the whole thing is even

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<v Speaker 1>in Meghan's new show, they were kind of acting like

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<v Speaker 1>she just started this small business, but it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>were literally the duchess. Well, to be fair, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, she started off by selling jams, so

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<v Speaker 1>that is a very small, local type of hus but

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<v Speaker 1>with a huge in built following, it's got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a head start on some of the smaller businesses

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<v Speaker 1>business owners it.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see who she's going to interview because

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<v Speaker 1>she has been criticized for the guests that she's had

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<v Speaker 1>on her TV show. A lot of people have said,

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<v Speaker 1>all these are meant to be your best friends, but

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>seemed like none of you know each other. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to her podcast Archetypes, it was that

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<v Speaker 1>she had two big of A celebrities on there, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering what sort of entrepreneurs she's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>on there. One thing that Megan and her team seem

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<v Speaker 1>really good at is inclusivity.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw it on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to hear from a wide range

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<v Speaker 1>of women from all walks of life, which will be great. Well, unsurprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>she's already been called a copycat by the media. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>Megan seems to do, they seem to say, oh, someone

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<v Speaker 1>else has done that. It's like, no, shit, it's a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an interview format. I mean yeah, it's run

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<v Speaker 2>of the meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are saying it's very similar to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Confessions of a CEO, while others are saying that she's

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<v Speaker 1>stolen the podcast idea from YouTuber Katie Meet, who has

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube series called Confessions of a Female Founder, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the exact name of Megan's podcast. I'm guessing the

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<v Speaker 1>press is google the name of the podcast, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they came across this YouTube and they're like, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie has publicly stated in her opinion that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence, and when asked about the similarity, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely understand why people are during connections and truly

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the support and understand their intention, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>understand coincidence as well. This highly unlikely Megan ever came

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<v Speaker 1>across my channel, But I am flattered by the thought.

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<v Speaker 1>What does concern me is how quickly this is turning

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<v Speaker 1>into another reason to drag a woman down. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to contribute to. I know firsthand what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like to have my work actually copied.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that she stood up for her. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so nice and it's very true what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like every time Meghan releases something new, everyone's on

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<v Speaker 1>this witch hunt to find a problem with it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly for Katie, who's built a YouTube channel on uplifting

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<v Speaker 1>other women in business. She wouldn't want to look like

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<v Speaker 1>she's dragging anyone down. To point out she has just

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<v Speaker 1>over two thousand subscribers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like thet big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not like Meghan's probably one of those and

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<v Speaker 1>his copied. She's probably loving the exposure for her YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>channel being mentioned in these articles. And I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in podcasting, nothing is a new idea. I

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>mean is so oversaturated and there's only so many ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that actually suit an audio platform. So many podcasts overlap.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember when we first started and we

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<v Speaker 1>were told that we were copying shameless and Shameless were

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<v Speaker 1>told that they were copying Mama Mir and The High Low.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, people can have an interview podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where they talk to female founders. It's going to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be exactly like the out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The draw card is Megan. Yeah, why people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to listen? As you say, Okay, it's just a genre

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<v Speaker 1>of podcasts. But do you notice that this type of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism is only usually leveled at females. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard anyone accuse any of the sports shows of copying. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that footy podcast, probably because no one wants to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking listen to that. But in terms of this concept,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you guys think? Is this something you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear Megan talk about or is there something else

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<v Speaker 1>you'd prefer. Well, it's difficult for her, isn't it. Well

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<v Speaker 1>she's dis the dirt on the Royals, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>I want. I mean, yeah, that's that's the number one

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<v Speaker 1>thing i'd want to hear. I'd love to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of suits and her acting career. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear more about her and her life. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want to hear her interview other people, But

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<v Speaker 1>from the perspective, as I said, of someone who runs

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<v Speaker 1>a business, I will be interested to hear the insights

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<v Speaker 1>from other women. And we've seen from her shows and

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<v Speaker 1>her in the media that she's very smart, she's very articulate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's going to do a good job interviewing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think what people want from her is authenticity,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and podcast format allows you to be a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>off the cuff, to be relatable, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>she really needs to show a more unpolished side of

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<v Speaker 1>herself and to be a little bit more self deprecating,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe be talk about the struggles that she's actually

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<v Speaker 1>had with her business, particularly the trademarking issues, which are

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a big issue. I mean, the fact that she

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even released any of her products in line with

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<v Speaker 1>her Netflix show is clearly a big problem for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I would really love to hear what has actually been

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<v Speaker 1>going on behind the scenes. Maybe that's why she's delayed

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<v Speaker 1>and not actually spoken about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's saving it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I highly doubt she'd be talking about this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more of an inspirational podcast. One other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I would like to hear from her podcast. If

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<v Speaker 1>I could have my pick is her in Harry Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just find it fascinating. I know we heard

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<v Speaker 1>a bit about their love story in the doco they

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<v Speaker 1>did for Netflix, but I'd like to hear more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like them to do Is it that one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty questions that make you fall in love? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>You do what did you say the question?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island contestant Luca Busch has sparked debate about extravagant

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<v Speaker 1>proposals after setting up a lavish display for his Love

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<v Speaker 1>Island co star Grace Jackson. So Luca pulled out all

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<v Speaker 1>the stops during a pay trip to Abby Dab with

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<v Speaker 1>a stunning floral setup on the beach. It was very

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of when Travis Barker proposed to Courtney Kardashian, except

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<v Speaker 1>it had a white theme. Instead, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of white roses. There was a huge neon sign. It

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<v Speaker 1>looked absolutely stunning. I mean, it was quite clear that

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<v Speaker 1>Luca had nothing to do with actually setting it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been some sort of party planner. But

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker to all all of this was the sign

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<v Speaker 1>read will you be my girlfriend. So this wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>a marriage proposal. This was Luca asking Grace to be

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this isn't new behavior from Luca. Bish.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time he was on Love Island a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, he did a very extravagant girlfriend proposal to

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<v Speaker 1>Gemma Owen. Yeah, so people are slamming him. They're saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's just rehashed the same proposal he did for Jemma.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had to look back and I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>his first girlfriend proposal was more extravagant because he did

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<v Speaker 1>it at her family home, which is this huge mansion

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK, because her dad is a famous soccer

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>player yeah, not short of money. Yeah, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>a cello player there. He had a Cartier bracelet waiting

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>for her. There were balloons in the pool which spelt

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>out will you be my girlfriend? And he even hired

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<v Speaker 1>a videographer. So I wonder if Grace would look back

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>at that and go, wait a secon this wasn't as nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Another Saw point might be that this post appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have been sponsored, like the whole trip they were on

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was sponsored in Abu Dhabi. So on Instagram, he shared

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the photos and wrote I'll keep this one, and he

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>tagged a beach club saying thank you for bringing my

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>vision to life so perfectly. Wouldn't have wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>this in any other place. I'm not surprised that this

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<v Speaker 1>was sponsored. It's clear that as soon as the guys

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>leave Love Island and they're with a partner, some party

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>planner or event person reaches out and says, hey, can

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>we do something extravagant? Because I saw Ronnie and Harriet

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<v Speaker 1>they had the similar sort of thing where Ronnie had

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<v Speaker 1>filled the whole room with balloons, like it's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's quite.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting though, is jen Za's in particular think that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a really grand way to ask people

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<v Speaker 1>to be their boyfriend or girlfriend. It's the same with

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day. Now you've got to ask someone to be

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>your Valentine. You don't just assume. And it was quite

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting because I was looking at the comment section and

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of millennials saying I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation with my partner about this, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about being boyfriend and girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a shoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of our listeners said, my husband just changed

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<v Speaker 1>his Facebook relationships data, and I was like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm his girlfriend now. But isn't this a step

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<v Speaker 1>up from what we used to experience in our early

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<v Speaker 1>twenties because the guys that I dated never ever wanted

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to put a label on something and then you had

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to have this awkward conversation about what are we am?

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But I actually think it makes it harder because it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look like it's an even bigger deal to

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<v Speaker 1>just be in a relationships at the end of Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>because it looks like it's some massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Proposal at least she proposed.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it's kind of like, well, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>done thing, so we mustn't be boyfriend and girlfriend because

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. But I just think it shouldn't be that

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<v Speaker 1>big of a deal to be boyfriend and girlfriend. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in saying that I expected for my husband now

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend at the time to ask me to be his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said he didn't know that that was a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's because my first.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyfriend asked me by giving me flowers and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal on sign Well the reason but the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that he made it a big deal was because

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<v Speaker 1>literally rewind a couple of weeks before, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>off on a med camp sleeping with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>about the girls. So I think that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Kate, how did res ask you to be

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend? I think I was just a general understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't think we'd

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<v Speaker 1>use the label when I visited his parents, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think once you're visiting the parents, you are. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>day I lasked me. He literally said, will you be

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend? I mean, it wasn't as grand as Luca

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<v Speaker 1>Bish's a proposal. What do you do if, like say,

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<v Speaker 1>Luca Bish ends up with Grace, what's he going to

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<v Speaker 1>do for the engagement?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, how do you top that? I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>watch the full.

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<v Speaker 1>Series of Love Island. I had to tap out because

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<v Speaker 1>it just got quite boring. But Luca Bish is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorites, and I really like Grace as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I have watched both of.

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<v Speaker 1>Their seasons individually, and I don't see this relationship lasting.

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<v Speaker 2>I like them together, I don't like them together either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they're both lovely individually, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't seem to match well. And I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>will be a very short lived relationship. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>this might be similar to his relationship with Gemma Owen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this big grand proposal could be the

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<v Speaker 1>kiss of death.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it might.

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<v Speaker 1>It might give the part the girls a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the One listener compared the proposal to you remember on

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<v Speaker 1>Laguna Beach, Remember when they'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask if they'd go to prom with the That is

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<v Speaker 2>such a good call.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cute, though it wouldn't it be so great

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<v Speaker 1>being a high school and the guy that you like

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<v Speaker 1>does something really creative and cute, like yeah, again, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the other end of it and no one

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<v Speaker 1>asks you quite heartbreak. I pulled our listeners on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked, is the girlfriend proposal over the top?

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<v Speaker 1>And eighty nine percent of you said it was over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Well, eleven percent said all guys should do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this.

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<v Speaker 1>Reflects our strong millennial listener base, because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of listeners who probably weren't even proposed

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<v Speaker 1>to win such a grand way like this and think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost seems very showy and all.

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<v Speaker 1>For Instagram, a lot of people said it's just cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cringe. Well, that's where we're going to leave

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<v Speaker 1>things today. Thank you for listening to another episode about Spot.

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