1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tali Escane 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Shock's followers by listing Dream Barley Villa for sale, the 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: surprise contestants set to appear on the New Bachelor spin off, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: and Megan Markle's Mad March continues. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: But first, Molly May and. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Tommy Fury have all but confirmed their back together after 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: jetting off on a family holiday to their happy place, Dubai. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: The reunion comes seven months after the Shock split following 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Tommy's issues with alcohol. So if, an eagle eyed fan 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: was the first to raise the alarm on Thursday, spotting 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: them at Manchester Airport. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: This photo was all over by fu page and it 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: showed the family of three lining up to board their flight. Now. 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: UK tabloid The Sun ran with the photos straight away, 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: reporting that they were accompanied by a nanny so they 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: could spend more alone time together. The tabloid also spoke 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: to online One Sauce said you would never know the 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: troubles they've been through. They look like just a normal couple. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Tommy was very protective of Molly and Bamby, and then 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Nanny helped with the luggage. Boarding the Emirates flight, they 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: took the fast track lane and flew business class, but 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: were recognized by other passengers. Another said people were delighted 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: to see them together, but they kept to themselves. I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: wonder if this was a situation where people just felt 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: too awkward to ask. 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: For a photo. Oh yeah, I would not have gone off. 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't really socially aware 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: when they come across celebrities, and they wouldn't have respected 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that it was awkward. Well, they don't appear to be 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: hiding the fact they're away together, because both of them 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: are posting about being in Dubai. They haven't yet posted 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: any photos of them together, but all of their photos 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: are in the same resort. It's with their daughter Bambe. 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, because straight away the mainstream media 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: started touting this as a secret reconciliation holiday. So I 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: think that they both thought, well, everyone's talking about it, 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: we may. 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: As well post about the trip. 42 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Did anyone notice that Tommy's photo were a lot better 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: now on his Instagram story? 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: I was like, clearly Molly has. 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Taken this, but it's not a shot of his Sunday 46 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: roast with a Coca Cola. Well, he's been taking some 47 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: pretty nice photos of her as well, and you can 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: read a lot into the captions because Molly keeps calling 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: this her special place. And Tommy also uploaded a video 50 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: of him with Bambi and he was floating on a 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: pool toy with her and he said the dream. So 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: I just think that they are trying to soft launch 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that they're back. 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Is not a soft launch, this is a hard launch. 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if they are contractually obligated not to publicly 56 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: say that they're back together. Perhaps perhaps Prime has said 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: you can't say it until we air this docor otherwise 58 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: no one's going to watch. I think they know that 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: they're giving the fans what they want as well. I 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: think they're confident that everyone's going to be a static, 61 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Well most people are going to be a static that 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: they're back together, So they feel okay to be posting 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: it because it looks like the most wholesome true I 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: just hope they're vlogging it. You know, maybe they can't 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: put it out right away, but common can you imagine 66 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: if you were at the resort watching this, This would 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: be the best people watching ever. Well, Molly actually put 68 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: up a photo of Bambi playing with this older group 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: of kids and was gushing about how beautiful it was 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: and they took such good care of her. 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: I wonder if the parents of. 72 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Those kids were like, go over there, now, what's going on. 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Another photo on Molly's story caught my eye. 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: It was of like a can of coke and then 75 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: what looked like two watermelon cocktails, and I was like, 76 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: are they mocktails or karely they're mocktails. At first I 77 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: thought maybe the soft drink was for Bamby, but now 78 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe it was for the nanny. Maybe they 79 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: were all just having a drink together and maybe they 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: were mock taps. Look, they're pretty loaded. They might just 81 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: have bought two drinks. Molly might have bought two drinks 82 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: for herself. Oh, I was just more concerned about the 83 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: alcohol and it just had her mum in the docker 84 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: ringing in my ear. That every occasion seemed to turn 85 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: negative with Tommy and alcohol. So I'm very much hoping 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: that they are mockedtails. It's kind of a strange thing 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: to post. If you're back with Tommy. It seems like 88 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: they've chosen Dubai for a specific reason. It was the 89 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: first holiday that they went on with their daughter, Bamby. 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: She was only three months old when they took there, 91 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: and at the time, Molly described it as the happiest time. 92 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Of her life since she'd given birth to Bambi. 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they're trying to recreate the magic of. 94 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: The first trip. 95 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Was they filming for Prime still? Like they mentioned about 96 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: a YouTube, but is this going to be on the show? Hopefully, 97 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: surely it will be part of the documentary that winding 98 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: up shots. It will be like and they all lived 99 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: happily ever after. 100 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: Imagine if Tommy. 101 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Proposes over there and that's the next series you have 102 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: to propose again now that they've broken up, or if 103 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: they get going together, does that mean they're still engaged. 104 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: I know we're all very excited about it, but I 105 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: do have a few concerns. This relationship only broke up 106 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: seven months ago. I wonder if there has been enough 107 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: time to iron out a lot of the issues that 108 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Tommy's had with alcohol. It seems like there were further 109 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: issues with their relationship with his partying as well, and 110 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: potential women that he'd been with. Well, we'll probably find 111 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: out more in the documentary. And Kate, to answer your question, 112 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I think if you've broken up for seven months, you 113 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: have to do another proposal. 114 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: Another ring. Surely not that ring is big enough. 115 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Well, Molly's seemed really happy in a recent vlog, and 116 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: she actually gushed about the upcoming holiday, saying, this. 117 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: Going to Dubai with Bambi and we are going for 118 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: a little holiday. But I feel like I'm going to 119 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: like really have like some like nice time off and 120 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: just like really switched off, Like I'm still going to 121 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: post and stuff. It's needed this little trip. And I'm 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: actually like very much as you guys know, like a 123 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: home girl. I love my time at home. I never 124 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: really crave the need to go away. Like I'm so 125 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: content when I'm at home. It's at my happiest times. 126 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: But recently I have been craving a little getaway and 127 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: just some time to kind of just like. 128 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: A skate I saw. 129 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: There was so many comments and they were all like, 130 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to say with you with Tommy, have 131 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: a great time in Dubuy with Tommy. Well, she did 132 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: admit the fact that she was going with Tommy and 133 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: again it really does make me think that they have 134 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: signed something with Prime. Well, the general consensus, I feel 135 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: on TikTokers everyone is happy about this news. There was 136 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: a TikToker who actually spotted the couple in Dubai, and 137 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: she shared a post saying may or may not have 138 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: just witnessed our favorite blonde with her baby girl and 139 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: man in Dubai. I'm all and this led followers to write, 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: I genuinely feel like they're on a make or break holiday. 141 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: We're all rooting for them, whilst another said I love 142 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: this one couple I want to work. There are, however, 143 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: some people who don't actually think that this means that 144 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: they're back together, and maybe they're just very mature and 145 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: a co parenting way. There is no way you wouldn't 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: be talking about how special this holiday is. You'd be 147 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: talking about how challenging it is to be there with 148 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: your ex well spare thought for the nanny, regardless of 149 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: what kind of trip this is or what relationships sat 150 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: as they are. It'd be fucking awkward, wouldn't it. But 151 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's good that there's someone else there to bounce 152 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: off and you know, you kind of put more of 153 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: an effort in when there's a third party. 154 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: I never got that, Natty. 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: But she's probably off with Bambi doing stuff, letting them 156 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: have their alone time. I don't know if they're traveling 157 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: around this So I think you need to spare a 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: thought for Molly's sister Zoe. It is going to be 159 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: really awkward for her because she was very vocal on 160 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the Prime doco about how she didn't think that they 161 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: should get back together and that he was bad news 162 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: and that she clastered with him. Well, what's even more 163 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: awkward is that Zoe recently put out a vlog where 164 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: she revealed that she and Danny are actually moving into 165 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Molly's house with her. So they live in quite a 166 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: small apartment what looks like an apartment or a unit 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: at the moment. And she said that now that she's 168 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: an influencer, she's so inundated with packages and receiving goods 169 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: that they actually don't have room in their house, so 170 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: they don't have enough storage, so they were going to 171 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: rent a house, and Molly called her up and said, well, hey, 172 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: have you ever just considered temporarily moving in with me? 173 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying, well, does this 174 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: mean that Tommy and Molly aren't getting back together. 175 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: If they got a sister moving here. 176 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: But this is also called Zoe and her husband are 177 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: looking to buy a house. 178 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean maybe it'll be for the short term. 179 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they need a buffer, Kate, as you were saying 180 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: with the like, maybe they need Zoe and Danny there. 181 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to bring in a buffer who does 182 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: not like your partner or ex partner. True. I think 183 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it's just a temporary fix while Molly needs a help 184 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: of other babysitters. 185 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: Really spend the morning with me. As a self employed 186 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Australian living in at. 187 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Bali, Talius Gaines has shocked her followers by revealing her 188 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: three story villa in Iluatu is up for sale. The 189 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Bari based influencer has been documenting the build for the 190 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: past two years and touted the luxury villa as her 191 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: permanent home now. So if this villa was featured heavily 192 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: in Talia's Gone, yeah, because a huge part of Talia's 193 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: channel has been documenting this villa build. So she moved 194 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: to Bali with her boyfriend Jake Sajano over two years 195 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: ago and they've really taken followers along for the ride. 196 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: We've been a fly on the wall for all of 197 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: the site checks, the slab being laid, We've seen the 198 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: pool going in recently. We also saw a bunch of 199 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: custom furniture being installed and intry influencer style. They also 200 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: made up a home account for the villa, which has 201 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: six thousand followers, and they gave it a name because 202 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: we know that Talia likes naming her village, because she 203 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: had a villa with her ex boyfriend Mitch Third, which 204 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: was called Villa Tami was at a combination of their names. 205 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: I can't remember that it was Mitch and Talia. 206 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 207 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Now this villa is called Casas Sue, which means home 208 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the river. 209 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: So even in the name, it has the word home 210 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: in it. 211 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: So there was a general vibe that this was going 212 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: to be there. Maybe not forever home, but they're home for. 213 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: At least a couple of years. 214 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: Why does a distrmin me of ecken Sue Sue? 215 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: What's bloody nice? 216 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: When you say villa, you kind of think of, you know, 217 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: a small maybe one or two bedrooms. This place is 218 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: massive and the view is absolutely insane. 219 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: It is so luxurious. Yeah, I mean, I. 220 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Would love to live in this house. It looks incredible. 221 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Tylia said that she wasn't actually planning on opening up 222 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: about the sale so soon, because she said there's still 223 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: several months until they officially move out, but she said 224 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: that she'd been inundated with so many questions about the 225 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: villa she felt as though she needed to open up, 226 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: so she wrote in a Q and A on Instagram 227 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: casas Sue actually just and up for sale. So many bittersweet, 228 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: conflicting emotions. Sue is the most incredible home. I am 229 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: beyond obsessed and she exceeded Sorry, for some reason, it 230 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: cracks me up. They refer to the house as a woman, 231 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: and she exceeded all expectations. I've honestly dreaded this day 232 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: since before we even started building. But I'm also super 233 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: excited for the future. That's a bit of a weird 234 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: thing because it gives off the impression that they were 235 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: always going to sell. Well. It comes as a shock 236 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: to a lot of people because they only just completed 237 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: the villa in September of last year, so they've really. 238 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: Only lived there for a couple of months. 239 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: When it's been completed, and there was a lot of 240 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: speculation that maybe Talia and Jake might be moving back home, 241 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: but they later confirmed that they're staying put in Bali. Well, 242 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: he is a property developer and this is his bread 243 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and butter. But as you said, it was always touted 244 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: as being their home. I wonder if they'd just got 245 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: an offer that was too good to turn down. Yeah, 246 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: it's really confusing, Kate, because they never promoted it as 247 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: an investment property. As you said, he is part of 248 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: a development company in Bali which describes itself as his 249 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: premiere property developer, called the Local Villa Group. And as 250 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: you said, maybe it shouldn't come as such a surprise, 251 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: but they never said it was an investment property. They 252 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: said it was their dream home that they were building. 253 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: And even up until recently, Taralia created a broadcast channel 254 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: for Casasou and she wrote that she was struggling to 255 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: sleep at night because she's that excited about the new 256 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: house and she said it's my dream home and she 257 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: just can't believe that she gets to wake up to 258 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: this every day. Something is going on behind the scenes. 259 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when Leah Atsinas put her house 260 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: up on the market and then suddenly she's obviously moved 261 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: to the Gold Coast, so there's always something going on. 262 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't want to be in Iluatu anymore. I 263 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: wonder if either a really great opportunity for land in 264 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a better spot has opened up, or there's a villa 265 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: that they really want to renovate, because she mentioned in 266 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: a recent YouTube video that she's working on a new 267 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: project that she's not going to open up about until 268 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the end of the year, and she teased, if you 269 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: like the journey of Casas Sue, you will like the 270 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: latest projects. So maybe they see developing these villas as 271 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: part of a content strategy and as part of her brand, 272 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and now that it's done a people going to lose 273 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: interest in her content. So how did they actually make money? 274 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Because I understand if you are not a Balinese local, 275 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: you can't actually purchase land. Yeah, it's really interesting because 276 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Australians can't own land outright in Bali. They have to 277 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: be listed as a lease holder, so they can only 278 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: acquire property rights through this leasehold agreement, where basically the 279 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: property owner grants them the right to use and manage 280 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the property for a fixed period of time. In the 281 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: case of Kasasu, the property has a lease hold until 282 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: December twenty fifty six. 283 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: Wow, it's a long time await. 284 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: You touched on before, Kate that maybe Jake and Talia 285 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: got an offer on the villa that was. 286 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: Too good to be true. 287 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: But they've actually listed it through a very popular Balinese 288 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: realtor at the moment, so it's all over their social 289 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: So it looks like they don't have a current buyer 290 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: and they're putting a lot of marketing into trying to 291 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: get the best price possible. It doesn't mean that they 292 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: haven't been inundated with offers though, because Georgie Stevenson recently 293 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: had some trouble selling her Gold Coast mansion. She's now 294 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: actually renting it out. But it was actually passed in 295 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: an auction for the first time they put it up 296 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: for sale. 297 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: But she had said that they had had so. 298 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Many different offers over the time that they owned the house, 299 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and they. 300 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: Were really big offers. 301 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: So they probably had a few offers come in that 302 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: they're like, we actually can't turn this down. Let's put 303 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: it on the market and see how many more come 304 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: in and pit these people. 305 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: Against each other. 306 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: I get the vibe that they plan to just sell 307 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: this property all along, but maybe they thought Talia's followers 308 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: would buy in more if they thought we're following the 309 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: journey of you building your dream home as opposed to 310 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: we're following the journey of you building an investment portfolio 311 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: on property. 312 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 313 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty earnest look at it. I 314 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: think that there's more going on behind the scenes than 315 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: we know. They might have run out of money and 316 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: need to sell it's a heritage brand, but we're bringing 317 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: it forward into twenty twenty five. Anticipation is growing for 318 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: nine's new spin off of The Bachelor. The new series, 319 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: called The Golden Bachelor, will see older contestants can heating 320 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: for love with one familiar face getting viewers excited. Yeah 321 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: so none of it than Abby Chatfield's mom, Laura, has 322 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: been papped on the set of the new series, which 323 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: is being filmed in Sydney. 324 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: What an absolute get from the producers. 325 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it seemed like it was only going to 326 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: be a matter of time before we saw Abby's mum 327 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: popping up on a reality show, because in twenty twenty one, 328 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Abby actually created a petition for her. 329 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Mom to become the Bachelorette. Oh I forgot about that. 330 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 331 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty three, Abby did an interview 332 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: with the Sydney Morning Herald and she was talking about 333 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: how amazing her mum would be if there was a 334 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette. So this was off the back of The 335 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor being commissioned in the US, so they've obviously 336 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: headhunted her for the show. Yeah. A lot more of 337 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Laura also popping up on Abby's Instagram and TikTok. There 338 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: was this funny video where Laura had purchased Adam and 339 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Abby this sex dice. Basically it had all these different 340 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: positions for them to. 341 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Strive for her daughter. Yeah, and I was like, oh 342 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: my god, what a character. 343 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: It's very clever because Channel nine are going to get 344 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: so much free social media publicity with Abby sharing about 345 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: this series, and I think the connection to Abby is 346 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: going to draw a lot of viewers in well. Abby 347 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: has a connection with Chatel nine. She is a judge 348 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: on the show, the mask singer, so it ties in 349 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: really nicely for them. What's amusing is that the casting 350 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: director has come out and said what a struggle it 351 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: was to actually find contestants for this show, and it 352 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the age demographics. So 353 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: the original call out said that they were looking for 354 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: people between sixty and seventy five who were looking for 355 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: the last great love of their life. The issue is 356 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: that a lot of the people who applied apparently didn't 357 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: know how to upload photos and videos online, so they've 358 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: had to go to quite desperate attempts, so they've started 359 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: contacting retirement homes. They also handsed out business cards to 360 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: race goers at Royal Randwick and started advertising on the 361 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: oldie radio stations like two GB and three AW to 362 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: fill out this cast. I suppose the oldies also don't 363 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: give a shit about their social media following, so they 364 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: really do need to find older people who actually want 365 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to fall in love, and I think that's what's actually 366 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: going to make this show good. People are going to 367 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: be there for the right reasons and not to get 368 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: fame on social media. That's one of the big reasons 369 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: why The Bachelor got acts from Channel ten because people 370 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: had enough of the series, because they were finding that 371 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: most of the people who went on were only going 372 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: on to become influencers and people were actually missing that 373 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: true love story. Surely a lot of these people's kids 374 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: are applying for them. Well, in the initial call out 375 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: it did say if anyone knows of anyone that should 376 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: be on the show, So surely these people's kids or 377 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: grandkids can help them upload a video. Yeah. Well, ironically, 378 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor himself is actually a lot younger than 379 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: what the casting agencies originally wanted, so he's only in 380 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: his fifties. He's an infrastructure engineer from Sydney and he's 381 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: been dubbed as a passionate sailor who has three sons 382 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: between the ages of seventeen and twenty one. 383 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: And that's a sad. 384 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Story because his wife, Audrey, passed away in twenty eleven 385 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: after being diagnosed with an aggressive brain tumor. 386 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: That's all for. 387 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: What I found funny about the marketing of this show 388 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: is they're trying to portray It's like all these oldies 389 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: coming on. But this guy, he's not your typical fifty 390 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: year old. He looks a bit like Tim Robarts, he's 391 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: got a six path. Fifty is pretty young. But the 392 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: fact they were going around to retirement village is to 393 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: try and cast. 394 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: For this show. 395 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I wonder how he's going to feel. I wonder if 396 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: it's going to have a bit of a cougar vibe. 397 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: If the cast of females are going to be in 398 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: their seventies and he's only his fifties, it will. 399 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: Be a bit weird. 400 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, apparently a source told The Daily Male that his 401 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: sons are always complaining that he's bringing around the wrong 402 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of girls that are too young and hot for him. 403 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh so he's into the younger ones. Maybe he's on 404 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: there to build his profile. 405 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 2: Maybe. 406 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, he is a lot younger than the US as 407 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor, so he was seventy two and he ended 408 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: up marrying one of the contestants on a TV special, 409 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: but they got divorced a few months later. But The 410 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor was a massive success in the US. It 411 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: brought in over six point one million viewers for its 412 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: finale episode, and that was the most watched Bachelor episode 413 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: in three years. I think nine are hoping for the 414 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: same success. It's because we want some good personalities, we 415 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: want a real love story, and I think that it's 416 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: something a. 417 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: Little bit different. 418 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think they're going for a bit more of 419 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: a feel good vibe because they've got rid of Osha 420 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Samantha Armitage is hosting the show if I like that. 421 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: She recently hosted Farmer Wants a Wife and that was 422 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: very popular for being a bit more wholesome and authentic. 423 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: They just need to get the casting right and also 424 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: the promotion, because I always think the Aussie Bachelor has 425 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: never been as good as the US one because they 426 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: didn't go there with like the Fantasy Suite. They never 427 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: had the Fantasy suite and the opportunity to forego their 428 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: separate bedroom. I think The Bachelor was pretty good in 429 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: the early stages, like the series where Maddie j got 430 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: his heart broken. 431 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: It was probably one of my favorite. 432 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: It was good, but that's because we didn't have a 433 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: streaming service and everyone was watching it at home together 434 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: and it was like that water call the moment, like 435 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: I remember at work before The Bachelor would air, everyone 436 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: would have kind of like the Melbourne Cup where they 437 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: cut up all the faces of the contestants and everyone 438 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: would get one and see who won. But I think 439 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: these contestants are going to be so much more likable because, 440 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: as you said, Kate, they're not going to be looking 441 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: for Instagram followers. And also the older you get, the 442 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: less shit you give. Like I feel like there's going 443 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: to be a lot of people who are going to 444 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: be really genuine on there, and that's what people are 445 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: calling out for. I mean we've even seen it. With 446 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Love Island UK, there was a lot of talk about 447 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: how people aren't really wanting to tune into it anymore 448 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of the contestants are second guessing themselves 449 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: because they know so many people are watching. I feel 450 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: like the oldies know that people are watching. 451 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they just don't care shit. 452 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: But look at say Molly May's grandma on her docco 453 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: like she was performing to the camera, but it was 454 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: comedy gold Like they just don't even know how funny 455 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: they'd Yeah, and there was that popular reality show I 456 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: think it was called My Mum Your Dad, Remember where 457 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the kids would watch their parents' interrouct I feel like 458 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be a bit like that. 459 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: Queen, what are you saying? 460 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Quinn, Queen? 461 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: You're queen, So I'm not here, I'm not Queen you 462 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: you ean? Oh Queen, I'm actually a duchess. 463 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: Now Mega Markles mad March continues. In the space of 464 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: a month, she's released her Netflix lifestyle show and announced 465 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: a second season, as well as rebranded her product range 466 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: this week, she also revealed she's dropping a brand new 467 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: podcast on April eight. For those following Megan closely, it's 468 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: probably not a huge surprise because in February she signed 469 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: with an American podcast distributor called Lemonader Media. I had 470 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: never heard of them before, but they're best known for 471 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: producing Julia Lewis Drivers' podcasts Elane from Seinfeld, and they 472 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: also have about forty other podcasts within their network now. 473 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: At the time, Meghan said that she was happy to 474 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: be supporting a female founded company and continue her love 475 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: of podcasting. It is unclear, though, how much this deal 476 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: is worth, so her previous deal with Spotify for Archetypes 477 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: was worth twenty million dollars. Well, they ended up dropping 478 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Megan's podcast in twenty twenty two or in The claim 479 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: was that they mutually parted ways, but it was later 480 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: reported that Meghan and Harry had failed to meet Spotify's 481 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: productivity benchmark. But that's despite the fact that it seemed 482 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: to actually rate quite well. I mean, I think there 483 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: was probably a bit of hate listening going on. 484 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I. 485 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: Personally listened to a few episodes and I was like, 486 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't have an interest in listening anymore, 487 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: but if people do want to listen to it a 488 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: part of this new deal with Lemonader, they're actually redistributing archetypes. 489 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Remember there was a huge break between podcasts episodes because 490 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I think it was when the Queen passed away, and 491 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: out of respect, they paused the series for a while, 492 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: so it was really difficult for her to build any 493 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: sort of momentum. Yeah, and it's kind of like her 494 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: lifestyle show. A lot of people were annoyed that it 495 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: was just this place to push her famous friendships because 496 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: she had Serena Williams and Mariah Carey, Mindy Cator. 497 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: I was interested to see. 498 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: What Megan would come out with for hern X podcast. 499 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: And the show is called Confessions of a Female Founder 500 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: and it will be released weekly. So it's an eight 501 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: part series and it's set to feature candid conversations between 502 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Meghan and other females who have launched successful businesses, because, 503 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: as we know, Meghan is launching her new business, so 504 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: the podcast is basically her picking the brains of other 505 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: women who had great success in business. It's kind of 506 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: like that as someone who is a female that has 507 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: two businesses. I'm really excited to hopefully hear some insightful interviews, 508 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: but it does have that two thy sixteen girl. 509 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: Boss vibes, which I don't like. 510 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: What I find amusing about the whole thing is even 511 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: in Meghan's new show, they were kind of acting like 512 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: she just started this small business, but it's like you 513 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: were literally the duchess. Well, to be fair, when you 514 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: look at it, she started off by selling jams, so 515 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: that is a very small, local type of hus but 516 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: with a huge in built following, it's got a bit 517 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: of a head start on some of the smaller businesses 518 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: business owners it. 519 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: Might be listening. 520 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see who she's going to interview because 521 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: she has been criticized for the guests that she's had 522 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: on her TV show. A lot of people have said, 523 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: all these are meant to be your best friends, but 524 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: seemed like none of you know each other. And then 525 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: when it came to her podcast Archetypes, it was that 526 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: she had two big of A celebrities on there, So 527 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what sort of entrepreneurs she's going to have 528 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: on there. One thing that Megan and her team seem 529 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: really good at is inclusivity. 530 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: We saw it on the show. 531 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: I think we're going to hear from a wide range 532 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: of women from all walks of life, which will be great. Well, unsurprisingly, 533 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: she's already been called a copycat by the media. Everything 534 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Megan seems to do, they seem to say, oh, someone 535 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: else has done that. It's like, no, shit, it's a podcast. 536 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's an interview format. I mean yeah, it's run 537 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: of the meal. 538 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Some people are saying it's very similar to the podcast 539 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: Confessions of a CEO, while others are saying that she's 540 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: stolen the podcast idea from YouTuber Katie Meet, who has 541 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: a YouTube series called Confessions of a Female Founder, which 542 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: is the exact name of Megan's podcast. I'm guessing the 543 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: press is google the name of the podcast, and then 544 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: they came across this YouTube and they're like, right. 545 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: Well. 546 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Katie has publicly stated in her opinion that it's just 547 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: a coincidence, and when asked about the similarity, she said, 548 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: I completely understand why people are during connections and truly 549 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: appreciate the support and understand their intention, but I also 550 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: understand coincidence as well. This highly unlikely Megan ever came 551 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: across my channel, But I am flattered by the thought. 552 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: What does concern me is how quickly this is turning 553 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: into another reason to drag a woman down. That's not 554 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: something I want to contribute to. I know firsthand what 555 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: it feels like to have my work actually copied. 556 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: This isn't that. 557 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: I love that she stood up for her. I know, 558 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: it's so nice and it's very true what she said. 559 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: It's like every time Meghan releases something new, everyone's on 560 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: this witch hunt to find a problem with it. Well, 561 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: particularly for Katie, who's built a YouTube channel on uplifting 562 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: other women in business. She wouldn't want to look like 563 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: she's dragging anyone down. To point out she has just 564 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: over two thousand subscribers. 565 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like thet big thing. 566 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: It is not like Meghan's probably one of those and 567 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: his copied. She's probably loving the exposure for her YouTube 568 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: channel being mentioned in these articles. And I mean, at 569 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: this point in podcasting, nothing is a new idea. I 570 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: mean is so oversaturated and there's only so many ideas 571 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: that actually suit an audio platform. So many podcasts overlap. 572 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when we first started and we 573 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: were told that we were copying shameless and Shameless were 574 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: told that they were copying Mama Mir and The High Low. 575 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, people can have an interview podcast 576 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: where they talk to female founders. It's going to be different. 577 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: It's not going to be exactly like the out there. 578 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: The draw card is Megan. Yeah, why people are going 579 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: to listen? As you say, Okay, it's just a genre 580 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: of podcasts. But do you notice that this type of 581 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: criticism is only usually leveled at females. I mean, I've 582 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: never heard anyone accuse any of the sports shows of copying. Yeah, like, 583 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: oh that footy podcast, probably because no one wants to 584 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: fucking listen to that. But in terms of this concept, 585 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Is this something you want 586 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: to hear Megan talk about or is there something else 587 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: you'd prefer. Well, it's difficult for her, isn't it. Well 588 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: she's dis the dirt on the Royals, which is what 589 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: I want. I mean, yeah, that's that's the number one 590 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: thing i'd want to hear. I'd love to hear the 591 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of suits and her acting career. I 592 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: want to hear more about her and her life. I 593 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to hear her interview other people, But 594 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: from the perspective, as I said, of someone who runs 595 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: a business, I will be interested to hear the insights 596 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: from other women. And we've seen from her shows and 597 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: her in the media that she's very smart, she's very articulate. 598 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: I think she's going to do a good job interviewing them. 599 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think what people want from her is authenticity, 600 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: and podcast format allows you to be a bit more 601 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: off the cuff, to be relatable, and I think that 602 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: she really needs to show a more unpolished side of 603 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: herself and to be a little bit more self deprecating, 604 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: and maybe be talk about the struggles that she's actually 605 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: had with her business, particularly the trademarking issues, which are 606 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: clearly a big issue. I mean, the fact that she 607 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: hasn't even released any of her products in line with 608 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: her Netflix show is clearly a big problem for her. 609 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: I would really love to hear what has actually been 610 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. Maybe that's why she's delayed 611 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: and not actually spoken about it. 612 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: She's saving it for a while. 613 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: I highly doubt she'd be talking about this. This is 614 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: going to be more of an inspirational podcast. One other 615 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: thing I would like to hear from her podcast. If 616 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: I could have my pick is her in Harry Oh, 617 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: I would just find it fascinating. I know we heard 618 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: a bit about their love story in the doco they 619 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: did for Netflix, but I'd like to hear more about it. 620 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: I'd like them to do Is it that one hundred 621 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: and fifty questions that make you fall in love? Yes? 622 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Yes, that would be amazing. 623 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: You do what did you say the question? 624 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: Yes? UK. 625 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: Love Island contestant Luca Busch has sparked debate about extravagant 626 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: proposals after setting up a lavish display for his Love 627 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Island co star Grace Jackson. So Luca pulled out all 628 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: the stops during a pay trip to Abby Dab with 629 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: a stunning floral setup on the beach. It was very 630 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: reminiscent of when Travis Barker proposed to Courtney Kardashian, except 631 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: it had a white theme. Instead, there were a lot 632 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: of white roses. There was a huge neon sign. It 633 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: looked absolutely stunning. I mean, it was quite clear that 634 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: Luca had nothing to do with actually setting it up. 635 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: It would have been some sort of party planner. But 636 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the kicker to all all of this was the sign 637 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: read will you be my girlfriend. So this wasn't even 638 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: a marriage proposal. This was Luca asking Grace to be 639 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: his girlfriend. 640 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: Well, this isn't new behavior from Luca. Bish. 641 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Last time he was on Love Island a couple of 642 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: years ago, he did a very extravagant girlfriend proposal to 643 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Gemma Owen. Yeah, so people are slamming him. They're saying 644 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: he's just rehashed the same proposal he did for Jemma. 645 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: But I had to look back and I actually think 646 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: his first girlfriend proposal was more extravagant because he did 647 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: it at her family home, which is this huge mansion 648 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: in the UK, because her dad is a famous soccer 649 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: player yeah, not short of money. Yeah, and he had 650 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: a cello player there. He had a Cartier bracelet waiting 651 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: for her. There were balloons in the pool which spelt 652 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: out will you be my girlfriend? And he even hired 653 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: a videographer. So I wonder if Grace would look back 654 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: at that and go, wait a secon this wasn't as nice. 655 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: Another Saw point might be that this post appears to 656 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: have been sponsored, like the whole trip they were on 657 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: was sponsored in Abu Dhabi. So on Instagram, he shared 658 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: the photos and wrote I'll keep this one, and he 659 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: tagged a beach club saying thank you for bringing my 660 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: vision to life so perfectly. Wouldn't have wanted to do 661 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: this in any other place. I'm not surprised that this 662 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: was sponsored. It's clear that as soon as the guys 663 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: leave Love Island and they're with a partner, some party 664 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: planner or event person reaches out and says, hey, can 665 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: we do something extravagant? Because I saw Ronnie and Harriet 666 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: they had the similar sort of thing where Ronnie had 667 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: filled the whole room with balloons, like it's nothing new. 668 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: And what's quite. 669 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: Interesting though, is jen Za's in particular think that they 670 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: need to have a really grand way to ask people 671 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: to be their boyfriend or girlfriend. It's the same with 672 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Now you've got to ask someone to be 673 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: your Valentine. You don't just assume. And it was quite 674 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: interesting because I was looking at the comment section and 675 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of millennials saying I didn't even 676 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: have a conversation with my partner about this, like I'm 677 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: about being boyfriend and girlfriend. 678 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: It was a shoe. 679 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Well, one of our listeners said, my husband just changed 680 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: his Facebook relationships data, and I was like, Okay, I'm 681 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: guess I'm his girlfriend now. But isn't this a step 682 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: up from what we used to experience in our early 683 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: twenties because the guys that I dated never ever wanted 684 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: to put a label on something and then you had 685 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: to have this awkward conversation about what are we am? 686 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: But I actually think it makes it harder because it 687 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: makes it look like it's an even bigger deal to 688 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: just be in a relationships at the end of Instagram, 689 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: because it looks like it's some massive. 690 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Proposal at least she proposed. 691 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: At least it's kind of like, well, this is the 692 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: done thing, so we mustn't be boyfriend and girlfriend because 693 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I haven't. But I just think it shouldn't be that 694 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: big of a deal to be boyfriend and girlfriend. I 695 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: mean in saying that I expected for my husband now 696 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time to ask me to be his girlfriend, 697 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: but he said he didn't know that that was a thing. 698 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: And I think it's because my first. 699 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Boyfriend asked me by giving me flowers and it was 700 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: a big deal on sign Well the reason but the 701 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: reason that he made it a big deal was because 702 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: literally rewind a couple of weeks before, and he was 703 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: off on a med camp sleeping with a bunch of 704 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: about the girls. So I think that I was going 705 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: to ask Kate, how did res ask you to be 706 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: his girlfriend? I think I was just a general understanding 707 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't think we'd 708 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: use the label when I visited his parents, and I 709 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: think once you're visiting the parents, you are. That's the 710 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: day I lasked me. He literally said, will you be 711 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: my girlfriend? I mean, it wasn't as grand as Luca 712 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Bish's a proposal. What do you do if, like say, 713 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Luca Bish ends up with Grace, what's he going to 714 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: do for the engagement? 715 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Like, you know, how do you top that? I didn't 716 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: watch the full. 717 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: Series of Love Island. I had to tap out because 718 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: it just got quite boring. But Luca Bish is one 719 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: of my favorites, and I really like Grace as well. 720 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: I have watched both of. 721 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Their seasons individually, and I don't see this relationship lasting. 722 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: I like them together, I don't like them together either. 723 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I think that they're both lovely individually, but they just 724 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: don't seem to match well. And I think that this 725 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: will be a very short lived relationship. I think that 726 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: this might be similar to his relationship with Gemma Owen. 727 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I think that this big grand proposal could be the 728 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: kiss of death. 729 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: Maybe it might. 730 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: It might give the part the girls a bit of 731 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: the One listener compared the proposal to you remember on 732 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Laguna Beach, Remember when they'd. 733 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Ask if they'd go to prom with the That is 734 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: such a good call. 735 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: It was cute, though it wouldn't it be so great 736 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: being a high school and the guy that you like 737 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: does something really creative and cute, like yeah, again, if 738 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you're on the other end of it and no one 739 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: asks you quite heartbreak. I pulled our listeners on Instagram 740 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: and I asked, is the girlfriend proposal over the top? 741 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: And eighty nine percent of you said it was over 742 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: the top. Well, eleven percent said all guys should do this. 743 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: I think this. 744 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Reflects our strong millennial listener base, because I think that 745 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of listeners who probably weren't even proposed 746 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: to win such a grand way like this and think 747 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: it's it's. 748 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: Almost seems very showy and all. 749 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: For Instagram, a lot of people said it's just cringe. 750 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: It is cringe. Well, that's where we're going to leave 751 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: things today. Thank you for listening to another episode about Spot. 752 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: If you do enjoy the show, we would really love 753 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: it if you could leave us a review and. 754 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: Also share where you're listening from. 755 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 756 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. 757 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.