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Speaker 1: On today's episode with original Titan Viola, the sixth eliminated
Speaker 1: contestant from this year's A Strand Survivor on Network ten,
Speaker 1: I will be talking about her time in Samoa and
Speaker 1: of course what she thinks now that the smoke has
Speaker 1: well and truly been snuffed out on her torch. Australian
Speaker 1: Survivor Titans Versus Rebels is a showdown that pits the
Speaker 1: winners against the underdogs and the big wigs against the battlers,
Speaker 1: with each player competing for the grand prize of half
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Viola was originally from South Sudan and
Speaker 1: moved to Australia when she was two years old. The
Speaker 1: Powerlift and Strength coach made an easy choice for her
Speaker 1: to be a part of the Titans team and on
Speaker 1: the outset, Viola made a strong connection with fellow Titan Valeria,
Speaker 1: gaining a power couple status with fellow castaways calling them
Speaker 1: the two V's. They bonded with diplomat Mark, creating a
Speaker 1: new trio, which Mark intended to use to break up
Speaker 1: his original alliance, the Middle Aged Mafia. Their plan was
Speaker 1: to eliminate Sweet Caroline first, but in the confusion of
Speaker 1: the buff swap, sadly, Viola found herself blindsided when Caroline
Speaker 1: led a preemptive strike against the three of them. Viola
Speaker 1: will reveal how she was cast on Australian Survivor and
Speaker 1: if being previously seen on the doghouse helped her with
Speaker 1: the folks at Network ten. We will unpack that blind
Speaker 1: side where we will find out if she thought Mark
Speaker 1: was in fact a part of her demise, which we
Speaker 1: will then find out if Viola wants her elimination revenged
Speaker 1: by her remaining friends. I will ask Viola about how
Speaker 1: Alex comes across in real life and what she thinks
Speaker 1: of contestants like Aileen, Raymond and Scott who have been
Speaker 1: getting a little less screen time. Plus, we will find
Speaker 1: out why being malleable is important and why type bonds
Speaker 1: with fellow contestants makes you an easy target. There is
Speaker 1: so much to unpack with Viola and she is really
Speaker 1: fun to chat too today, so sit back and relax
Speaker 1: as we dive just that little bit deeper into the
Speaker 1: world of Australian Survivor. I have to say to you
Speaker 1: right off the bat, I'm so impressed with how humble
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 2: You know, you often see people that have.
Speaker 1: Been eliminated, their tortures have been snuffed, and then they
Speaker 1: have their little piece to camera and you can see
Speaker 1: that they're so angry.
Speaker 2: You were fantastic.
Speaker 3: I think it just comes from a standpoint of like
Speaker 3: game respects game. You know what I mean, hate the player, No,
Speaker 3: don't hit the player. Sorry, don't hit the player. I
Speaker 3: need the game. I think in a game like Survivor
Speaker 3: and you when you know what everyone goes through and
Speaker 3: you know the decisions they have to make on the
Speaker 3: day to day, you can respect good gameplay in this
Speaker 3: big shown. So I was like, listen, it is what
Speaker 3: it is. Respect to you.
Speaker 1: How did you treat the game of Australian Survivor. I mean,
Speaker 1: what were your biggest influences when it came to taking
Speaker 1: on this sort of a competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so one of the biggest one was Shannie. I
Speaker 3: think Shannis, like social gameplay, really just showed how important
Speaker 3: that was over things like physical gameplay. It was being
Speaker 3: really easy for me to go in and you know,
Speaker 3: align the fact that I'd be decent a challenges and
Speaker 3: think that's going to get me through. But I knew
Speaker 3: that wasn't going to do much for me in the
Speaker 3: long term. So I knew how tulye more so on
Speaker 3: finding a strong person that I could bind myself to
Speaker 3: between market bell area. I think that strategy works really
Speaker 3: well fish one, and I was prepared to follow a
Speaker 3: similar gameplay, but I think I just should have put
Speaker 3: a bit more strategy into it.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of people that will do their
Speaker 1: research before going in, and they'll watch specific players and
Speaker 1: assume that that timeline will play itself out the same way,
Speaker 1: where the game is different every single time, and then
Speaker 1: you throw something like Titans versus Rebels, which by name alone,
Speaker 1: you know they are going to throw things out of whack.
Speaker 1: They're going to do things differently.
Speaker 3: When I got onto that island right because I knew
Speaker 3: why they selected me, but I didn't know who else
Speaker 3: they selected. So I remember, we're all sitting around in
Speaker 3: a cube circle. We just met each other. We just
Speaker 3: sort of like assusting each other out, and one by
Speaker 3: one every time is saying why are they're retired? And
Speaker 3: what they do for work, and as I grew out
Speaker 3: of the circle, I'm like, oh gee, I'm not a
Speaker 3: bit really really really big pond. So I think the
Speaker 3: Titans really were Titlands because of the soft they've done
Speaker 3: in life. At the same time, I think it put
Speaker 3: me in such a interesting predicament where I was lucky
Speaker 3: in the sense that everyone was the first time player,
Speaker 3: but unlucky. And since that, I'm playing with players that
Speaker 3: I used to be in the top of their game.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, true.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of chatter about you
Speaker 1: being on another show, The Doghouse, and that was really
Speaker 1: interesting because I was reading on the comments section last night.
Speaker 1: People were wondering whether that was a little step into
Speaker 1: television and did that help you get onto Australian Survivor.
Speaker 1: I just assumed they were unrelated, but what can you
Speaker 1: tell us about that so that I'm related?
Speaker 3: Even when I got this was so funny, like I
Speaker 3: didn't tell the Doghouse anything about Survivor because it's a
Speaker 3: very close and confidential sort of thing, right, And like
Speaker 3: I didn't know if I couldn't even tell them, So
Speaker 3: I was like, listen, I'm not going to shoot myself
Speaker 3: shoot my shot because I went to have a big mouth.
Speaker 3: So I didn't tell the dog House anything about me
Speaker 3: being a survivor, but I did manage a survivor that
Speaker 3: I was in the Doghouse, and I think even with that,
Speaker 3: when I got off the show, it was like, well,
Speaker 3: a few weeks and then straight away, looking skinny as hell,
Speaker 3: I was off to filming the Doghouse. So the two
Speaker 3: shows they had like absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Speaker 3: And it's so interesting everyone thinking that, like I had
Speaker 3: this secret connection. I'm like, no, they's I just applied.
Speaker 3: I applied and my person I spoke for yourself.
Speaker 1: I just always think it's so funny because, like you know,
Speaker 1: when we look at things, you know, we simplify and
Speaker 1: we always believe we know something.
Speaker 2: With the nature of the.
Speaker 1: Way you could be cast on a show like a
Speaker 1: strands of IVRN take part in a competition like this,
Speaker 1: those two things seem very unrelated to me. But for
Speaker 1: the untrained eye, they probably thought, well, it's spoke Channel ten.
Speaker 3: It make guess, it makes sense. But I think what
Speaker 3: the Doghouse did teach me in propressions, I guess was
Speaker 3: the production side of things and like being aware that like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, there's a reality of the actually shure
Speaker 3: have been like you've really got to live through the conditions.
Speaker 3: So I think it prepared me to not expect something.
Speaker 3: So so whilst from what I was going into, I
Speaker 3: think on top of that, it really taught me as
Speaker 3: well about like the way you come across it comes
Speaker 3: from the words that you say, treat people how you
Speaker 3: would in your day to day and you'll be okay.
Speaker 3: So I think that really helped me a lot. I
Speaker 3: think The Doghouse gave a bit of parr and I'll
Speaker 3: say what they gone to the show.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, I learned from
Speaker 1: the Doghouse if you sleep with dogs, you catch fleas.
Speaker 3: Ye I'm bad. I'm not that bad.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I mean I think it's unrelated.
Speaker 1: Quote Again, it's funny that you mentioned the conditions, because
Speaker 1: it does seem like at this point of the competition
Speaker 1: that the castaways are getting a little bit more conditioned
Speaker 1: to the conditions.
Speaker 2: I'd say, over time you could just.
Speaker 3: Kind of accept you new reality, right, because like everything
Speaker 3: that happens is everything that happens, You're almost happening the
Speaker 3: outside world. So in many ways, you start to accept
Speaker 3: it in things like, you know, the fact that your
Speaker 3: back's always going to be crooked with you sleep, or
Speaker 3: the fact that your stomach is always going to run more.
Speaker 3: With some degree, I think after a while we accept it.
Speaker 3: At the same time, it does get harder. When I
Speaker 3: first got on Survivor, I was doing really confident. I
Speaker 3: was like, Yeah, I've trained for this, like my exercises.
Speaker 3: I'm a strength traditioning coach. I had this really big
Speaker 3: ego that really got knocked out and humbled all the
Speaker 3: reality of Survivor. Like I think when I got on
Speaker 3: and I realized, oh my gosh, I'm actually losing strength.
Speaker 3: I'm actually losing like body weight and whatnot. I'm not
Speaker 3: as strong and confident in my capacity as I usually
Speaker 3: would be. I think it humbled me to a degree
Speaker 3: where I was like, I can't rely it on my
Speaker 3: fiscal strength, like I have to rely on my social way.
Speaker 3: I have to run my she did to play because
Speaker 3: that's going to deplete Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to get into that in a second.
Speaker 1: But I just was going to say, last night, Kelly
Speaker 1: arrived back and was saying that she orchestrated Nathan's exit
Speaker 1: from the show, which seemed like her kind of backpedaling
Speaker 1: in a way, you know, trying to get out of
Speaker 1: maybe what she didn't do while she was there.
Speaker 2: What do you think of Kelly Boy?
Speaker 3: I was having the sweetest dream of my life, like
Speaker 3: I was back in Australia. I was like eating a
Speaker 3: nice stack of barbecue ribs, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: I got work to not just killed the vibe for me.
Speaker 3: So I think like the way Kelly entered was definitely
Speaker 3: a shock, and to see her gameplay live now is
Speaker 3: also a shock. I think she's a very interesting player,
Speaker 3: and I haven't figured out her gameplay yet. It could
Speaker 3: potentially make her last very, very long because people can
Speaker 3: predict that unpredicted about unpredictable behavior of Kelly.
Speaker 1: I think she's making good television, you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. She looks like one of those
Speaker 1: people that you'd be like, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: could live with you, but I'm entertained by the turbulence
Speaker 1: that comes with someone's personality type that is so vastly
Speaker 1: different from everybody else's.
Speaker 3: She's definitely like the actually wrote a person I've ever met.
Speaker 3: In many ways, Kelly can be misunderstood, and I think
Speaker 3: unfortunately in a game of Survivor, I think it's one
Speaker 3: of those places where she's most likely misunderstood. I think
Speaker 3: in a different context, perhaps she has a very different
Speaker 3: side that we don't know about. But I think Kelly
Speaker 3: definitely made for really good TV.
Speaker 1: Well. You know what's interesting though, because she was kicked
Speaker 1: to the curb from the Rebels team, and so when
Speaker 1: she returned, I thought it was quite unreasonable of them
Speaker 1: to just assume that she would feed the information or
Speaker 1: the truth back to them. You know.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like it seems strange that that's
Speaker 2: what they wanted from her.
Speaker 3: Perhaps they felt as though Ellie Kelly rode them. I
Speaker 3: think at that point it was may be in like
Speaker 3: a tipso tat, like Okay, yeah, but you did all
Speaker 3: this so us this kind of information is you're not
Speaker 3: justifying to feel hurt. But in saying that, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: justifying to feel her, they like rejected you to that degree.
Speaker 3: So I get it.
Speaker 1: What I was going to ask you is, do you
Speaker 1: think that the biggest players in the game, like a
Speaker 1: Ferris and a Kirby should be more worried about some
Speaker 1: of those sleeping giants in the background.
Speaker 2: I mean Eileen and Scott and Raymond.
Speaker 1: They're not getting a lot of airtime, but something is
Speaker 1: making me feel like they're not just fodder for the
Speaker 1: Kings and Queen of the show to eliminate.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I dare say, I Lead is phenomenal player,
Speaker 3: and I think her gameplay, if it's being low key,
Speaker 3: I think it's working out really really well. I think
Speaker 3: in the Revels trick those normal play is slack, straight up,
Speaker 3: and I think the absolute luck of all of ending
Speaker 3: in that kind of scenario after its private squall. I
Speaker 3: don't know what kind of prayers they're making, but I
Speaker 3: need to get a hold of that. But I think
Speaker 3: that definitely is potential for someone like I Lead, especially
Speaker 3: as well as Scott, but definitely I Lead also in
Speaker 3: my Duke, to definitely make some big moves. But I
Speaker 3: think it's one of those situations where time to help.
Speaker 1: I think it's just going to see how that evolves.
Speaker 1: But I do think they're going to need to sort
Speaker 1: of watch them a little bit more than they are.
Speaker 1: Last night, all the super fans were trying to pick
Speaker 1: who is going to get the biggest blind side. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that on social media, but
Speaker 1: you know the episode was being promoted as the biggest
Speaker 1: blind side so far. You get to finally watch the
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty degree view of survivor by watching
Speaker 1: the episode, what surprised you the most by the work
Speaker 1: that was done behind the scenes that you didn't see
Speaker 1: in SOMEOA.
Speaker 3: What surprised me Caroline did surprise me? I think her
Speaker 3: capacity to get the numbers and have short conversations, short
Speaker 3: efficient as opposed to like long conversations where you tell
Speaker 3: the entire pan and the backstory. I think her ability
Speaker 3: to have short efficient conversations and switch Eden and switch Kitty.
Speaker 3: I think that was really really impressive. I'm like, you
Speaker 3: know what, that was well, Blade, respect to you, Like,
Speaker 3: I definitely didn't see you coming at that speed of
Speaker 3: that accuracy. So I think one hundred percent that surprised me.
Speaker 3: And I think what surprised me was everyone's reasons for
Speaker 3: coming on board with the plan. I think, for example,
Speaker 3: I think Sarah mentioned in her confessional was because I
Speaker 3: didn't share much information with her, which I'm like, you
Speaker 3: know what, that's understandable. I get that because in my position,
Speaker 3: I couldn't because I put a tag on my back.
Speaker 3: But in your position, that puts a tag on your
Speaker 3: back either way. So I get that, and the weirdest reason.
Speaker 3: I get that. But I think for the most part,
Speaker 3: everyone had sufficient reasons and I can respect it. I
Speaker 3: don't think there was any sense of like, ah, I've
Speaker 3: got to get further out or something I'm leading to
Speaker 3: my character.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Mark in a way because you know, Kitty,
Speaker 1: Caroline and Eden, you know, they were all in an
Speaker 1: alliance with Mark. Yeah, it was kind of interesting to
Speaker 1: see them leaving him out of the conversation when it
Speaker 1: came to them coming for your blind side. Do you
Speaker 1: hope now that Mark is going to seek your revenge?
Speaker 3: There's one thing that did are going to show, and
Speaker 3: that's the depth of myself and Valves and Master relationship.
Speaker 3: They don't show just how much we were like all
Speaker 3: for each other. I think we all had an understanding
Speaker 3: that we wouldn't turned on each other, and it was
Speaker 3: up actually just Saul and we felt that this was
Speaker 3: the lives I really counted in the long term for
Speaker 3: the game. So I think definitely, like I'd be very
Speaker 3: surprised if they did. Eventually, I think if that was
Speaker 3: me in their shoes, I would not be satisfied until
Speaker 3: someone goes home. So I think it'll be interesting to
Speaker 3: see how it plays. But even when I got out,
Speaker 3: I think there was so much like shock, or so
Speaker 3: much it happens so quickly that you don't really realize
Speaker 3: that you know what's happening.
Speaker 2: Knew that Mark had nothing to do with it, right, No.
Speaker 3: So when I got off the show, I was I
Speaker 3: was just reflecting. I was like, wait a minute, did
Speaker 3: Mark betrate me like he did? Become very unclear because
Speaker 3: I kind of conversations with people, so I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what happened. I was like, wait a.
Speaker 2: Minute, but you feeling better about it now that you
Speaker 2: know that Mark didn't.
Speaker 3: Oh my lord, when I tell you the heart release.
Speaker 2: Did you send him a Christmas present this year?
Speaker 3: Well? Actually went a visited Mark, like I'll hung out
Speaker 3: with I'm the very multiple times Marks in Busan I
Speaker 3: went over and like met him and it's wife and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So I think we have a very cirse relationship friendship
Speaker 3: between all three of us.
Speaker 1: And it works out shortly after a few drinks, then
Speaker 1: he would have revealed that he had your back, right,
Speaker 1: But I guess he's still you know, even when they
Speaker 1: would tell you that in the real world, until you're
Speaker 1: watch it on the television, till you watch you to
Speaker 1: see how it happened, you'd still be slightly reserved. You know.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have been talking about this,
Speaker 1: and in the game of survivor any kind of alliance
Speaker 1: that is super duper strong or a real connection that
Speaker 1: is formed can be a bit of a weakness to
Speaker 1: your game. And you with the two V alliance, does
Speaker 1: that make you now wonder and second guess whether or
Speaker 1: not it was a good idea for you to have
Speaker 1: such a strong connection with Valeria.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt as though at the time, at the
Speaker 3: point in the game where me and Valeria were forming
Speaker 3: our connection, it was a point in the game where
Speaker 3: everyone was forming connections. You know, we've sort of broke
Speaker 3: up into individual pairs and trios are based of the
Speaker 3: betters we had. But for that reason, I felt as
Speaker 3: though myself, even though me and I were very very close,
Speaker 3: I felt as though it wasn't just something that should
Speaker 3: be targeted is considering everyone had their own person in
Speaker 3: their own regard. But I think looking back now, especially
Speaker 3: seeing you know, Winner in Jaden's gameplay, where they're like
Speaker 3: they're building to be malleable, I think it makes them
Speaker 3: very flexible to player and very easy to align software.
Speaker 3: You know that they're working in that best interest. So
Speaker 3: I think in the future perhaps so considerate. I think
Speaker 3: it just really depends on the characters that come across.
Speaker 3: I think if I was recognize another version of Valeria
Speaker 3: or someone else with like that kind of similarities, I
Speaker 3: think be very difficult for me to not align myself
Speaker 3: with them, But I think I'll definitely be a lot
Speaker 3: more covert about the depth of their lives.
Speaker 1: I think malleable is the word, isn't it Like isn't
Speaker 1: that seems to be like the currency to keep yourself
Speaker 1: in the game as long as you can, you know,
Speaker 1: because you can't get stuck on a consistent you can't
Speaker 1: stuck get stuck on one relationship. It is interesting, though,
Speaker 1: because you've left two of your best friends behind in
Speaker 1: the competition. I was curious to ask you about the
Speaker 1: advice that you may have for Mark and for Valeria
Speaker 1: now being left in the competition. What do you think
Speaker 1: that they can do now to keep themselves be strong
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 3: Well, I know about the both of them. I'm like,
Speaker 3: they both be very passionate people. I think would be
Speaker 3: very hard for them to just get over a boat
Speaker 3: like this. But at the same time, they're both really
Speaker 3: smart social base. I think they'll know to, you know,
Speaker 3: tuck it away when the time is right, do what
Speaker 3: you have to do. But now it's not the time.
Speaker 3: So play the game, play the friend card, play the
Speaker 3: O show you know what that's right on valuable? Go ahead,
Speaker 3: talk up about me. If you need to throw an
Speaker 3: your name under the bus, do what you need to
Speaker 3: do and with a.
Speaker 2: Time that's right attack interesting. It is interesting.
Speaker 1: I think that's good advice. Though we always knew you
Speaker 1: were a smart girl. How about Alex? You know Alex
Speaker 1: is you know, he's got an interesting fan base that's
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes. I think most of them are
Speaker 1: people who are enjoying him in his speedos. But I'm
Speaker 1: really curious to know about how Alex is being perceived
Speaker 1: because he kind of is coming across as the goofy
Speaker 1: outsider in a way, or is he playing a good game.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what you have to say about
Speaker 1: Alex at this point of the competition. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So from the short time I spent with absolute
Speaker 3: game versus what I'm seeing like being treated out in
Speaker 3: front of me, I think my initial intuition about Alex
Speaker 3: rescript in being that he is anyone by himself. He
Speaker 3: will do what you need to do. He will really support,
Speaker 3: He will sir struggle up if needed. As long as
Speaker 3: it's not here, he will do what he has to do.
Speaker 3: And you know what I do, you respect that? I
Speaker 3: like respect that. I think, on the surface level, is
Speaker 3: a very sociable player. You know, Kaneki has excuses can
Speaker 3: draw from, but on the surface, if it's you, it'll
Speaker 3: be you as well as it's not me.
Speaker 2: Fair play.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that people referred to Caroline as
Speaker 1: sweet Caroline because she's nothing but sweet girl. And Kitty
Speaker 1: you know as well, Like you know, both of those women,
Speaker 1: they've got a very serious game play. That's that's going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. But you know, you had a
Speaker 1: relationship with them at some point. So I just was
Speaker 1: curious about what exposed that fracture in the relationship you
Speaker 1: had with those two women, because at one point it
Speaker 1: did seem like you know, you were able to use
Speaker 1: that friendship.
Speaker 3: There was always a bit of weariness because you had
Speaker 3: myself in vout, and then you have the New Age Mafia,
Speaker 3: and then you had Mark trying to be the super
Speaker 3: group that kept us together almost right, But there's always
Speaker 3: that slight understanding that yes, we're a larger group, but
Speaker 3: there's also fractions with that group that would become a
Speaker 3: parent at some point. And I think for me, I
Speaker 3: was still happy to work with them until Caroline started
Speaker 3: intruding on me and vows conversations. I think in that
Speaker 3: kind of scenario where you're already hungry, you're really tired,
Speaker 3: you're really stressed, you're really thinking someone's had to get you,
Speaker 3: and then when you have someone sort of latantly adding
Speaker 3: themself in the conversation and stop being a conversation, that
Speaker 3: could be strategic in conversations could just be fine. I
Speaker 3: think it definitely made me have her as a potential
Speaker 3: threat to my game.
Speaker 1: She kind of reminded me in a way of like
Speaker 1: you know, when your mum would try and hang out
Speaker 1: with your friends, she because you know when you know
Speaker 1: how she says toats like she was in a conversation
Speaker 1: with you two, and then she just joined the conversation
Speaker 1: with Tots, and I was like, girl, there's a certain
Speaker 1: age that I think that you can't I'm now being
Speaker 1: so ages and people are going to come for me.
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's an age that you can't say, Tots,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Are you drinking struggle? I already have Twitter coming after me,
Speaker 3: so I called them senior citizens. I can't be a
Speaker 3: little bit of this.
Speaker 2: I think that's enough. I think we go. I think
Speaker 2: we got let me know what we know what you feel.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because those fractures happened at the same
Speaker 1: time then for Mark and Eden, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: so yeah, Ra, actually there appeared for them at the
Speaker 1: same time as the fracture on the other side. Was
Speaker 1: there something we missed there? Do you think that Mark
Speaker 1: had done anything to upset Eden?
Speaker 3: My feelings though Mark and e respect each other, but
Speaker 3: the same time is always understanding that we are so
Speaker 3: similar in our game, right that at one point someone's
Speaker 3: got to cut the other out. I think it was
Speaker 3: like a weird sort of shrew Swere's like, not yeah,
Speaker 3: we're trying to need each other, but at some point
Speaker 3: it's going to happen. So I think the more Mark
Speaker 3: started to sad with myself about especially after the where
Speaker 3: eating rute nervous against the more, that sort of need
Speaker 3: actually a bit more apparent in that degree, so I
Speaker 3: think bread then they were becoming suspicious of each other,
Speaker 3: and that kind of I guess rippled out in the
Speaker 3: effects of everyone's individual lands.
Speaker 1: I've been asking everyone as well in the game in
Speaker 1: the name of Survivor, like finish this sentence, you know
Speaker 1: from what you now know, if you can finish this
Speaker 1: in a sentence in the game of Survivor.
Speaker 3: In the game of Survivor, I have now learned the
Speaker 3: hunger is real, is real, but more importantly, it feels
Speaker 3: though it's time back yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a lot of conversations in that tribal
Speaker 1: council when it came to Jonathan and talking about when it's.
Speaker 2: The right time to make a move.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a very interesting time for Jonathan
Speaker 1: to be narrowing in on that conversation because it was
Speaker 1: time for somebody to make a move and holy that
Speaker 1: sadly that might have been you.
Speaker 2: They made a move on you, Like I said, like
Speaker 2: much respect.
Speaker 3: I think to be taken the way I was. I
Speaker 3: was like, that's a good game. That is phenomenal game.
Speaker 3: So I think much respect for doing what you need
Speaker 3: to do. And I think Caroline back herself in respect
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: Sweet Caroline, Sweet Caroline, I don't know how she's going
Speaker 1: to go moving forward, But Sweet Caroline, what is something
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes, something we didn't see, kind of
Speaker 1: like a behind the scenes moment that maybe you thought
Speaker 1: was going to be on screen that we didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what I was surprised wasn't on the
Speaker 3: screen was the fact that I did trust Mark for
Speaker 3: the same time I realized that he was a massive
Speaker 3: bread I think they would have I really thought they
Speaker 3: would have showed my confessionals regarding that early on. I
Speaker 3: think one of my Day one confessionals was like, has
Speaker 3: nobody realized as a diplomat on the team? But does
Speaker 3: no one else? Freaking out? Does no one realize how
Speaker 3: scary that is? And I think one of the biggest
Speaker 3: reasons why I aligned with Mark was like, you know, one,
Speaker 3: I genuinely did get along with him really really well,
Speaker 3: which surprised me. But two I recognized him to be
Speaker 3: the biggest threat so early on. I'm surprised it didn't
Speaker 3: show that, but I think it more so it shows
Speaker 3: to his capacity to that, you know, to be really
Speaker 3: chill and calm on the surface at the same time
Speaker 3: be actually be ruthless and my strategic and long term
Speaker 3: minded viting and I think, yeah, I mean, even whether
Speaker 3: they showed that or not, you've seen that from the
Speaker 3: samp now, so much respect to that.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to see how how will he hides
Speaker 1: that in the next couple of episodes. Let me okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know whether he's going to be able to.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be pretty unnerved at this point.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, y'alla, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for taking the time and chatting with me about a
Speaker 1: strand Survivor. I loved watching you on the show. I
Speaker 1: thought you did a fantastic job and nice to chat
Speaker 1: with you today.
Speaker 3: Hopefully I chat to you and getting the picture.
Speaker 1: Of course, well, I'll have to come back and talk
Speaker 1: about doghouse, and then we'll come back when you're back
Speaker 1: on Survivor and who knows where, who knows where you'll
Speaker 1: go from there.
Speaker 3: It's been lovely