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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional

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Speaker 2: overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating failure because

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Speaker 2: I believe it's a chance for us to learn, grow

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Speaker 2: and face our blind spots. Each week, all interview a

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Speaker 2: different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 2: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Hello right on the pod. Today, we have.

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Speaker 2: Someone that has kind of got a multi leveled career.

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Speaker 1: It is an a Robard.

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Speaker 2: So initially we knew her as a lawyer, then she

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Speaker 2: went on the Bachelor. She's done loads of TV presenting,

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Speaker 2: she's now a TV personality, but she's also done this

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Speaker 2: amazing reality show called Sas Australia.

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Speaker 1: She's one of those.

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Speaker 2: People that constantly, it feels like she constantly sets a

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Speaker 2: challenge for herself. We recorded this episode in Sydney. She

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Speaker 2: was about eight months pregnant and she was such a sweetie,

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Speaker 2: just like one of those people that's just like always

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Speaker 2: working hard and she had just launched into wellness and

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Speaker 2: she was like Laula. Depending on when this pod comes out,

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Speaker 2: I can announce that it's officially available in Mecca. So

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Speaker 2: we held the pod a little while so she could

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Speaker 2: talk about the fact that it's out and officially available

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Speaker 2: in Mecca across Australia.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just.

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Speaker 2: Cool to hear about all of her passions and all

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Speaker 2: of these beautiful parts of her career.

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Speaker 1: And now you are so so lovely.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this pod kind of was a long

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Speaker 2: time in the making, and so thank you so so

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Speaker 2: much for saying yes and jumping on and congrats on creating.

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Speaker 1: An incredible lifestyle and wellness brand.

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Speaker 2: Killing it mate, And to the listener, I think you'll

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Speaker 2: find this really really inspiring if you've got a goal

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Speaker 2: or a dream or a business idea, and it kind

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Speaker 2: of shares a bit of behind the scenes of creating

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Speaker 2: a product as well.

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Speaker 1: So hope you love it.

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Speaker 2: And as always watched me on in stuff, there's anything

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Speaker 2: you want me to do in la or if there's

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Speaker 2: anybody that you want me to interview as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, Phoru, big love and our rovards, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the pod.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the last time we crossed bars, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like it would have been when I was

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Speaker 2: living in Sids, which would be like ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have.

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Speaker 3: Been probably ten years ago, probably when Tim and I.

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Speaker 1: Probably just started dating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been actually together for oh yeah, it'd be

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Speaker 3: almost you probably know why.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like probably close to eleven years now.

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Speaker 2: So it's yeah, because you were the first ever bachelor

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Speaker 2: and that was twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, what you're in oh twenty fourteen? Okay, yes,

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Speaker 3: so it is it's like eleven.

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Speaker 2: Years yes, yeah, So I reckon I was cross in

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Speaker 2: parts of your heaps, and I remember you and I

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Speaker 2: both did correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Do we do a nude photo shoot for Women's Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's it? That was actually it? Yes, so, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: that was that was not even in my show notes,

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Speaker 1: I tell you. It was just so funny. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I still can't believe I did that. But was scary?

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Speaker 1: Was that scary? I know?

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Speaker 3: And the thing is they wanted it to be about confidence,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, I've got to be confident,

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Speaker 3: like because.

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Speaker 1: I actually was on the cover for that one.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, I don't know if I'd been

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Speaker 3: on many covers or if I'd been on a cover before,

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Speaker 3: but I was like, why do I get these ones,

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Speaker 3: like the nude ones and I've recently been on another one.

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Speaker 1: It was when I was pregnant. I was, I can

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Speaker 1: get all these like different covers.

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Speaker 3: But it was an amazing, amazing shoot and I'm so

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Speaker 3: glad I did it. But I also was like so

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Speaker 3: scared to do it. I had to be like really confident.

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Speaker 1: But actually it wasn't. I was really scared. No, I

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Speaker 2: I was just they put full blown mermaid hair extensions

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Speaker 2: in my hair. I remember I had hair in my butt.

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Speaker 1: What was your pose? Were you in a rope?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I know someone was Aaron Horror. I was like laying

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Speaker 1: Oh, my hair was covering my birth. I wish I

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Speaker 1: brought that. I've still got something. I guess.

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Speaker 3: I have all those magazines back then, and I'm like

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Speaker 3: my mum collects them all as well.

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Speaker 1: That would definitely been it.

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Speaker 2: Well You, my friend, was so much fun to interview,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm so excited to talk about into wellness, but

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Speaker 2: like you've had a really cool career, like to go

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Speaker 2: from criminal law and then everything like your world changed

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Speaker 2: with bachelor, but also like falling in love, meeting the

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Speaker 3: None of this was ever half of it was on

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Speaker 3: the cards, but none of Like, career wise, it has

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Speaker 3: just been like up and down. I think I've now

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Speaker 3: before because I did law, study law.

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Speaker 1: Then I did law.

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Speaker 3: I was practicing probably for only about a year before

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Speaker 3: I actually went on The Bachelor, and I just remember

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Speaker 3: the moment where I was like, Okay, I made that decision.

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Speaker 1: I was so nervous because I was like, I've just.

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Speaker 3: Finished my law degree, I've been practicing for about a year,

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Speaker 3: and my family are going to hate me for doing

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Speaker 3: this because my dad was a lawyer and I didn't

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Speaker 1: That and your mate put you in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so thankfully because I'd never had a boyfriend before.

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Speaker 3: So it was my good friend who I'm really good

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Speaker 3: and I'm so glad because if it wasn't for her,

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Speaker 3: and there were others like we knew one of the

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Speaker 1: So I felt like it was just one of those moments,

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Speaker 3: I think about a week before going on the show,

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Speaker 3: she was a little bit Worrik's like, you've actually worked

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Speaker 1: But when before you go on the show.

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Speaker 3: They asked if you know any of these names, and

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Speaker 3: to make sure you don't know anyone, and he actually

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Speaker 3: so thankfully she wasn't allowed on the show. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember what it's for, but we're all in

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Speaker 3: red and we had I think I was right next

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Speaker 3: to him, I had my hand on him. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: So yeah, kind of all just aligned.

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Speaker 2: The Yeah meant was it surreal kind of being like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm catching feels, but I know these other girls are

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Speaker 2: going on. Was it like kind of a surreal like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely surreal.

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Speaker 3: But for me, I went to boarding school, so I

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Speaker 3: going into that situation, I was very much a girl's girl,

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Speaker 3: and I knew how to kind of handle myself in

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Speaker 3: good friendships with some of the girls who I'm really

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Speaker 1: I think half of the actually kissed him. That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was just like one of

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Speaker 1: So I always kind of held back.

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Speaker 1: Was like, he's not going to pick me. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: So some people are really optimistic about everything they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: just that's like my mindset. So it's something I've had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, well it's it's funny. So I loved

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Speaker 2: watching you in essay and in your like intro package

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Speaker 2: they were you were like, I don't believe in myself

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Speaker 2: enough and it holds me back, and like to see

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Speaker 2: you doing those such scary things. I have to quickly

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Speaker 2: just nerd out about essays just for a second.

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Speaker 1: That beehive thing. Was that so hard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That was actually one of the hardest challenges, and

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Speaker 3: they didn't actually show the extent of how hard it is.

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Speaker 3: So what you see everyone's like, oh, yeah, it looks

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Speaker 3: really hard. And I remember before even signing up for

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Speaker 3: the show, I just water.

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Speaker 1: That much either, do You were like that's a water

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like no, I'm not. I wasn't a swimmer.

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Speaker 3: I was actually like I love track and fields and

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Speaker 3: that's not my strong point. But every season has a theme,

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Speaker 3: and ours was water because I had a Navy seal

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Speaker 2: Well, you did amazing and I had to ask you.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like a lifestyle health and wellness show,

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Speaker 1: The love wasn't there was no I never liked it.

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00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,959
Speaker 3: I kind of fell into it, and I actually I

445
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 3: felt like I was doing it more just so I

446
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 3: can say I'm doing law than anything else.

447
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: And I never thought in a million.

448
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 3: Years I would do sort of anything but like a

449
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 3: nine to five job, until sort of other opportunities came

450
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 3: up and I started to take them and life was

451
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 3: just so different and for me, I never I guess

452
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 3: when it comes to starting your own business. My agent

453
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 3: at the time a long time ago, he was kind

454
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: of like, oh, you should do this, you should do that,

455
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, nothing really felt right, like I

456
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 3: didn't want to just do something for the fun of it.

457
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 3: And I remember with into Wellness, it was kind of

458
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 3: just a round the conversation I had with a girlfriend

459
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 3: who I've also been friends with proper for around eight years,

460
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: so a long time, and we're just on a walk

461
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: one day and we're talking about a lot of supplements,

462
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: and I think I was and it's crazy, I don't

463
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 3: know this, but I was either pregnant or pushing apround

464
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: one or the other, and I was just talking about

465
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 3: a love of like supplements and what we take and

466
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 3: magnesium at time, I think I was pregnant, so I

467
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: was taking a lot of magnesium at the time.

468
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: On the red from the recommendation of my obstrition.

469
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, it was the first kind of like time actually

470
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 3: really like dabbled in supplements because my husband he loves

471
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: taking them, like he's taking them his whole life. But

472
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: for me, I'm like, I've never felt I needed them.

473
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: And then as you get older, your body starts to

474
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 3: change and certain thing you need certain things, and that's

475
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 3: when being pregnant, that's the sort of first time I

476
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, my body is lacking in this and this,

477
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: I need that. And so yeah, we just started talking

478
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 3: about what we love, what wasn't out there, what we

479
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: could do, and it kind of was that really good

480
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: sort of friendship such sorry friendship slash relationship that we

481
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: had that we felt that we could go into a

482
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 3: partnership and build something. And it was the first time

483
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: I actually felt like I could, because before I just

484
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: don't think I had the confidence in doing so. And

485
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: I think Christie, my business partner, I could. She could

486
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 3: kind of hold my hand through it because she's an

487
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: entrepreneur and she has been for like almost fifteen years.

488
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: So sometimes people ask about advice, and for me, it

489
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: was about finding that right relationship and partnership and a

490
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 3: lot of the times it doesn't work out with your

491
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: co founder or whoever that may be. But I think

492
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: like we've got a really good understanding of what we

493
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: bring and that's really important. So yeah, just stem from

494
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: a walk, and here we are now, I think it's

495
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 3: around two and a bit years later and we have

496
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: just launched in to Mecca, So we thank you. This

497
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: is like probably it's something we'd always envisioned and we

498
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: thought with this product because a lot of the products

499
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 3: out there, they're very sort of beige and neutral and

500
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: natural kind of looking, and that was and I think

501
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: that's what almost scared me about taking supplements and because

502
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's more for hippies or the

503
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: people like that, and it was fun and I was

504
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: so wrong about that, And it's more about like what

505
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: your body needs but that's why we kind of went

506
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: with the right bold colors to attract maybe different people

507
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: that didn't think they would like to go there or

508
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: they didn't need it. But a lot of people either

509
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: can't sleep or this and they just don't.

510
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: They don't. I think health can be fun to yes,

511
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: and that's exactly.

512
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: And it feels like that's and also like the idea

513
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: behind it two really good mates. There's fun behind that

514
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: energetically too, and it must just be so nice to

515
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 2: be seeing it out in the world. And like Mecca

516
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: is like a holy grail for so many people. Was

517
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: that a long process or was that like on your

518
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: for all.

519
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: On our dream board and we envisioned like when we

520
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: were doing the design, that's who we envisioned or where

521
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: we go. But Mecca at the time didn't actually have

522
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: a wellness section. So we were speaking to them for

523
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: about a year and I remember speaking to them initially

524
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: and they're like, look, we actually don't have a wellness

525
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 3: section or that's not our focus right now, but we'll

526
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: stay in we'll stand contact.

527
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: And then I don't think it was that long after.

528
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 3: It might have only been three to four months where

529
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 3: they contacts and no actually now we're going to start

530
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: to evolve that and you are going to be our

531
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: first Australian in jestible that's going to be in store.

532
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: So it was a huge, huge moment.

533
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: I know, I've like, I still fine myself going I

534
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: can't believe that we're in Mecca and Mecca is for

535
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: me the Pinnacle.

536
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

537
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: Mate, it's so exciting and it's beautiful branding, and it's

538
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: just like, obviously as well, I have a health and

539
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: wellness background, and I think you naturally do because of

540
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: I think as well, like it makes you kind of soak.

541
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: It up, you know, yeah, exactly.

542
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: And also I think I also come from it from

543
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: a different point of view, like we're not the ones

544
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: mixing all the formulations. We've got like formulators doing that,

545
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: and we think they're the absolutely best formulators. But I

546
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: think it's more now of like the experiences of like

547
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: sort of everyday women and how they feel. And I

548
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: feel like that's kind of me. It's like, if I'm

549
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: not feeling right, what does my body need? And hopefully

550
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: then I can relate to people like that. But yeah,

551
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: people need to know that I'm not mixing them.

552
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: The formulas up. But we've got great people doing that.

553
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: So it is three products, right.

554
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: So we've got three We've got sleep and skin renewal,

555
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: We've got gut and skin rejuvenation and energy and skin radiance.

556
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: So they're all the point of difference for us as

557
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 3: well is we wanted it to be multifunctional, so you

558
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: can definitely go out and you can get your sleep

559
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: products and you can get your gut products.

560
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: But this has like sort of more in one.

561
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: So that's what we want, and we also want to

562
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: have like a skin aspect, so it's like a health

563
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: and beauty as not just sort of going down one

564
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: sort of route.

565
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm really proud of you, thank you, because you know,

566
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: like I've had brought products out before, it's hard and

567
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: they for me like they'll be, oh, have it.

568
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: For a year, and then we'll have a meeting.

569
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: We'll be like, look like, this isn't feasible if you

570
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: want to do these other things. So I really admire

571
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: that it's coming to life and the branding is so

572
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: so beautiful.

573
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: It's also been really hard, Like I think that's one

574
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: thing that no one sees, Like no one sees the

575
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: ups and downs, and there is honestly, so many. And

576
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: I always say this story about when we first were

577
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: about to launch the first product, which is Sleep and Skin.

578
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: I remember we had ordered thousands of tubs, and I

579
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: think we'd order them and we probably didn't look at

580
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: them like on the day.

581
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: And it was a couple of days later.

582
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: We're launching it about a week and I opened it

583
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: up and they put the wrong size scoop in. So

584
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: we had the labels and they would have said one

585
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: scoop and it was too small. So we actually had

586
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: to get them to peel off thousands of the labels,

587
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 3: reprint the labels and put them on postpone the launch

588
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: and anyway, that was just one thing, but it happens daily.

589
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing.

590
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: I've learned now that I'm in business, about those challenges

591
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: that are just constantly there, and it's how you kind

592
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: of deal with them and sort of move forward because

593
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: they're always going to be.

594
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hurdle another down the line.

595
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: And at the beginning, I'm like swearing, I'm like dis

596
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: blaming everybody else, and now I've kind of come to

597
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: terms where I'm like, delays happen, this happens, Okay, we've

598
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: just got to like move forward.

599
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: And how do we move forward?

600
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: I always tell like young entrepreneurs, I feel like, but

601
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: I always it takes about three times longer than your rates.

602
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't you see like that initial meeting and

603
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: you're like, there'll be like a little speed bump in

604
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: the road that will have an effect that if you

605
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: don't fix it, it's gonna you're gonna pay.

606
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: For it down the line. You know all the time.

607
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: And for us when we actually put in a purchase

608
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: order and it takes four months purchase order.

609
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like even with the Mecca and things.

610
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: Like that, ordering is like logistically it's it's just a

611
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: nightmare because trying to order for it.

612
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: You had a book about the b Yeah, I.

613
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Know it's full on, But I do think a lot

614
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: of people with businesses just go through this, whether it's

615
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: this specific, this is specifically related to me, but they

616
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: have their own journeys that are going on with these

617
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: hurdles and you think it could be the smallest little product,

618
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: but there are so many issues around it.

619
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, what.

620
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: Would your advice be if somebody has got this little

621
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: dream or they've got something they want to create that

622
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: is like a tangible thing, like, well, just get the

623
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: right people.

624
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Get the right people get.

625
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: For me, it was that part because I don't think

626
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: I could have done this on my own, and I

627
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: even though my business partner has all this experience as

628
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: an entrepreneur, I actually don't think she could do it

629
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: on her own either, like with this specific product. So

630
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: I think that combination really works well. But sometimes, yeah,

631
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't always work out with your partner.

632
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, we're still friends. It's such a.

633
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: Good thing we're still friends. I'm like, Okay, that's number

634
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: one for us. And we kind of set out everything

635
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: that we wanted to do with this business and also

636
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: how we saw each other's roles and everything before we began,

637
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: and I think that was really important to write everything

638
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: out so it's not like you go into a blind

639
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: and you hope for the best, because a lot of

640
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: the time it just doesn't work out like that. So

641
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: for me, it was getting the right partner. But also

642
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: I think just starting and I know a lot of

643
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: people say this when it comes to business, but I

644
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: if I didn't have my partner, we probably would have

645
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: just I would have procrastinated and be like oh it's

646
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: not good enough, it's not perfect yet. I want to

647
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: keep making it perfect and perfect. But at the end

648
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: of that I probably never would have begun. You do

649
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: have to, but then at the same time, you've also

650
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: got to do your research, so it kind of comes

651
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: and I didn't calculated jump.

652
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

653
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: So I'm so glad that you're sharing a bit of

654
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes because I think, like, it's so

655
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: exciting to see and for the listener, like get out

656
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: of Becka, I actually go and.

657
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: See it, yea.

658
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: But knowing that there has been a huge journey behind

659
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: getting to that moment.

660
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: It's been a wild ride and very eye opening for

661
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: me as well, because this is my first business, so

662
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm literally learning kind of on the run and it's crazy.

663
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's a lot of fun.

664
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Speaker 2: So has your lawyer brain had to come in, Like

665
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: in creating products and stuff, is your lawyer brain had

666
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: to come in and be like, okay, well even just

667
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: getting trademarks and registering.

668
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: So I'm very very by the book when it comes

669
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: to things. But this area of law I actually don't know.

670
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: So I'm learning criminal Yeah, So I a lot of

671
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: the times I'm like I don't know half this. Like

672
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: certain things I can like I can use certain things,

673
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: but a lot of the time, like I don't never

674
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: read this sort of contract before, or I may have

675
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: read it at UNI for one semester and it was like,

676
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: like criminal law is very different and there's so it

677
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: can help in certain ways.

678
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, we have another lawyer helping.

679
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's another thing, Like I know, early days,

680
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: to me sometimes I was like, oh, well that bit's

681
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: too hard, so I just won't think about it.

682
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: And I think that can come to.

683
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: Bite you in the bars down the line for sure.

684
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: For sure, it definitely can. And there's so many things

685
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: that we're now revisiting, but we're sort of growing and

686
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: we're learning from those. But it's it's constant, and I

687
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: think even if you do know, like that doesn't mean

688
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: those challenges aren't going.

689
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: To be there. They're going to always be there. It's

690
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: just going to be a different challenge. Totally, totally, totally.

691
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: I also just what I love is your career as well,

692
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: because it is so colorful.

693
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Yes, the criminal.

694
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Or at the beginning, then like you've done so many

695
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: different beautiful things within the media industry, and I feel

696
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: like you love it, Like it seems like you really

697
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: enjoying everything that you do. I feel like you're kind

698
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: of like you're like, well, I'm here, I'm going to.

699
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Give it my all. Yeaes like that with you.

700
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: It actually is like that, And I think I don't

701
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: take anything for granted at all, and I do really

702
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: appreciate and I even tell my husband and I'm like,

703
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate like him, my family, where I am, and

704
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: all these opportunities, Like I still can't believe that, like

705
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: I get certain opportunities that doubt does come in. I'm like,

706
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: why me, But I still like I really appreciate. I

707
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: actually really enjoy it. And it's maybe a path I

708
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: just never thought I would go down, and so now

709
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of taking it day by day.

710
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: And just I don't know, I just I kind of

711
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: really love it.

712
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: And because it's so different as well, I never thought

713
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: i'd be here talking to you or having a business

714
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: or all these things that I never thought that I've.

715
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: All had as a result exactly.

716
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: And I think it's about taking those risks and risks

717
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: are really important, which I was always really scared of

718
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: taking and I still am, and even going on sas

719
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: I've learnt so much about me and my capabilities, but

720
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: at the same time.

721
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: It still can hold me back to a degree.

722
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: But I think it's always going to be like a

723
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: gradual learning process for me, and I'll probably get to

724
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: ninety and.

725
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Be like, Okay, I'm good. Yeah, I'm really happy with

726
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: absolutely everything. But my mum reckons it happens in your forties.

727
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, and you start being like, she goes,

728
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: You're healthy, you fit, but you've got this self awareness

729
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: and confidence.

730
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: And also that I don't care how to tune about

731
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: what you did care about it, yes, sort of things

732
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: don't ruffle your feathers.

733
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: The same one exactly.

734
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: But having a career that is quite in the spotlight

735
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: any media I know like a lot of like a

736
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: lot of young actors listen to this podcast. Also, people

737
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: woul probably love to work as presenting or work in

738
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: the media in some way like you have. Do you

739
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: have any advice for anybody that's thinking, oh, I wouldn't

740
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: mind working as an entertainer in the media industry, because

741
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: I do think is a brutal industry and it comes

742
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: with a lot of uncertainty, Like you might have one

743
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: job and then that show might get canned or they

744
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: might hire somebody else, and the nature of that beasts

745
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: that can be sometimes a little bit brutal. But for

746
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: somebody that might want a career in media, do you

747
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: have any kind of like advice around that?

748
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: For me, it's.

749
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: About being mentally head strong, I think just with everything,

750
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: like I try, even when it comes to social media

751
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 3: and people like, oh, how do you handle criticism? And

752
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm someone who I don't like to put too much

753
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: out there, which can be to my detriment. But at

754
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: the same time, I don't want to put my whole

755
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: life on Instagram. I don't want to have things that

756
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: I feel like people can attack me on as well,

757
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I just I don't need that in

758
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: my life. And some people very outspoken, and that's great

759
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: for them, but for me, I'm like, I'd kind of

760
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: hold back a little.

761
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: Bit so And I also I remember when.

762
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: I first started out in the media and I'd read

763
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: all the comments and they would really really affect me.

764
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: And I said, from that moment, I was like, I'm

765
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: not going to read the comments like on it was,

766
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: whether it's Daily mail or whatever it may be. And

767
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to stop reading those comments, yeah,

768
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: because that's what actually affects me. And even following people

769
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: on Instagram, I'm like, if it's not going to positively

770
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: affect me, then I'm not going to follow them. So

771
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: I think it is just when you're in the media,

772
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: you need to be mentally headstrong. But I think that's

773
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: also why I created business, because I don't want to

774
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: feel like I have to always rely on other people.

775
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because things.

776
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: You're the boss, yes, exactly, So I want to make

777
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: this work and I'm really proud of that. And I

778
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: also it's just, yeah, I don't know, I'm just so

779
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: proud of having my own business and doing something I

780
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: never thought I would do, but then also not relying

781
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 3: on other people as well.

782
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: So Metal.

783
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: I also love that it sounds like all of this

784
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: like creating into wellness, doing sas starting with Batch and

785
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: then you know, you've done a plethora of other amazing

786
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: shows as well. I actually think for you, just in

787
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: talking to you today, it has all been like this

788
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: huge self confidence growth piece.

789
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it feels. It feels like that to

790
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: me as well. And I think the more you put

791
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: yourself out there and the more things you do, the

792
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: more confident you're going to get. And that's in anything

793
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 3: you do, whatever business you're in. And you know, people

794
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: might be afraid of public speaking, but as soon as

795
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: you keep doing it more and more, you become a therapy.

796
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Exactly, the more confident you get.

797
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: So it's kind of putting yourself in those situations you

798
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: don't want to be put in. And I guess, like

799
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: one thing that I've kind of been saying recently, like

800
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: a motto is I think maybe Aunt Middleton said it.

801
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: I may have got it from him, but I'm going

802
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: to take it.

803
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: But it's about not being afraid of fear, because fear is.

804
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: What challenges you.

805
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: And then old to me, what challenges challenges you means

806
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: you're going to grow. So it's kind of like there's

807
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: so many things that are fearful in life, and it's

808
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: kind of like trying to get past that point because

809
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: that's the only way you're going to grow.

810
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: You're not going to grow by just going in one eye.

811
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: And that's what I used to do, Like I really

812
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: I think in the moment I went on that show

813
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: and I'm at tim, that's when good things started happening.

814
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: And things kind of just changed in my life.

815
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: It was the first time where I was like, if

816
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: I didn't go on that show, I felt like I

817
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: would have probably just continued to either do law and

818
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: not enjoyed it, or I would have left and just

819
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: continue to do another nine to five job because.

820
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: That's all I thought I could. And look where you've

821
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: ended up. I know crazy. Is Tim a risk taker

822
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: as well? Like does he go, yeah, go do it?

823
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, he's probably more.

824
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: He's like that number one like cheerleaders over there, and

825
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: he always pushes me to do things even if I

826
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: don't want to do them, and then I have to

827
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: thank him later.

828
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, okay, thank you. With my boyfriend, I

829
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: was like, you were right. I know, I don't want

830
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: to say it, but I'm like, yes, you're right. I'm

831
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: so glad.

832
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: And that was like says, because if it wasn't for him,

833
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done it, and ultimately came down to

834
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: my decision to do it, but I needed him there

835
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: to kind of help push me into it a little bit.

836
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: And so I feel and hopefully like later on in life,

837
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: I can just do it myself and if an opportunity

838
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: comes but I'm always scared to do things.

839
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: But it's and that kind of never goes. Yeah.

840
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: But also I think like people often say to me,

841
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I've been my boyfriend for yong and they're like, we

842
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: love what you're mad, And I said, it's a teammate. Yeah,

843
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: Like it's like having a team mate. It's it's when

844
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: you're like the chips are down and they're like, come on, yeah,

845
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: do it. And like you would have had moments I

846
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: imagine with Into well now you would have been like, oh,

847
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm like when the scoops are the wrong size or whatever,

848
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: and it's just having that bud that's like, come on,

849
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: this is fixable.

850
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I feel like.

851
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 3: He's very much like that, Like he's definitely my number

852
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: one supporter, but he's the one sort of helps me grow.

853
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: And it's like you need those people around you, whether

854
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: it's your partner, who your friends, Yeah, you need those people.

855
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: And it's always best to surround yourself with those sorts

856
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: of people.

857
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: And also like, and you may not have had this

858
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: because you've had a tim in your world, but I'm

859
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: super pro like mentors as well, like and so and

860
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: even for me when I'm in LA chasing this like

861
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: unattainable acting dream like I have a mentor, I have

862
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: an older accept.

863
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: Tim Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, totally.

864
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: I have somebody that like lives where I've been and

865
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: they're like he's always just like buckle in, here we go.

866
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: It's hard.

867
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: And also get advice from sort of everywhere, and I

868
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: find everyone's like's one piece of advice.

869
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like.

870
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: Depends where I am at, Yeah, get it all, where

871
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: I am at life, who I'm surrounded by, and always

872
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: just kind of absorb everything that you hear. And it's

873
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: really important because then you can just use that depending

874
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: on your situation you're in.

875
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, I've got so so what is next?

876
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: Like what do you where do you want to see

877
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: into wellness? Go?

878
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Like global? We definitely want to go worldwide.

879
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: So global because we are with oh okay perfect tell

880
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: me yes, okay, yeah, so good because we're exclusive with

881
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Speaker 3: Mecca at the moment, so exclusive Australian New Zealand. So

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Speaker 3: we're gonna our next sit the steps will be international,

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Speaker 3: So watch the space.

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Speaker 1: With that report, I expect a little DM on install.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so, and that's kind of exciting that's sort

886
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: of the unknown, and there's a lot of challenges with

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: that as well. But it's a sort of a gradual process,

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: and we know these things take time. So most things

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Speaker 3: take a good sort of six months to probably two

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Speaker 3: years to do.

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: Anything, so even bringing out a product, and it takes

892
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: a year for a one product.

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Speaker 2: The fact that I'm like, oh, she's gone hard, you know,

894
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: So definitely going to be focusing on my brand.

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Speaker 3: And also I've got a new baby.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm freaking out. It's like it's kind of exciting.

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00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Well actually, yeah, so I probably I'm pregnant, but we're

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Speaker 1: recording this a little in advance. You actually look gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Pregnancy this time around actually has been very different

902
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: from the first time, really because I had l during COVID,

903
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: so we did nothing. We sat in the house, we

904
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: went for walks, kind of bliss in a way.

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00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh, it was amazing.

906
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: It was the best time. I was like, this is

907
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: the best time to be pregnant ever. I probably had

908
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: I probably went out three times. I had to get

909
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: dressed up three times in my whole pregnancy, and I remember,

910
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: and this is how much I'm like very law abiding citizen.

911
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: I remember walking with my husband and I was like

912
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: in a lot of pain. I felt like I was

913
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: going to faint, and I was like, I really need

914
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: to sit down. But at the time, we couldn't sit

915
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: on park benches, and he's like, just sit there.

916
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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not allowed to sit on the

917
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Speaker 1: park bench. So I didn't ever sit on the park bench.

918
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Speaker 3: I was about to faint, but because like I thought

919
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: I'd get in trouble for sitting on a park bench,

920
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: I was like, anna, come on, hold on, But this

921
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: time around, I have been busier than ever. I've got

922
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: a three year old, a b a new business, I've

923
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: got the opposite of literally on and I had so

924
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: much work leading up and Meancy's law. Right, Yeah, I'm like,

925
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: but it's kind of being nice because I feel like

926
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: this one second time around is it sounds horrible, but

927
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit more like a routine where you

928
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: know what to expect, yes, and also just the process

929
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: after where it's like, Okay, we've just got to set

930
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: up to know how can she sleep the best, and

931
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: like how we can sort of get back to things

932
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: the best way possible. It's not like I have no

933
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: idea because you've never had one before, so very very

934
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: different experience.

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Speaker 1: I could talk to you.

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Speaker 2: It's been such a joy to talk to you and

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00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: have you on this pod and to the listener into

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Speaker 2: one or so. Mecca is the place to get out

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Speaker 2: Mecca or online. Well, congratulations, I can't Like I said,

940
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: you DM me.

941
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Speaker 1: When it's an a friend. Don't you worry. Thank you.

942
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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

943
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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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