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Speaker 1: Hockey Northern Territories launched the Northern Gateway Initiative. It's a

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Speaker 1: bold territory lead model that has secured multi year international

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Speaker 1: partnerships and a major event calendar aimed at delivering sustainable

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Speaker 1: sporting growth, regional diplomacy and high performance opportunities across the

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Speaker 1: Asia Pacific. Now. It's developed in direct response to the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territories exclusion from the National Hockey One League and

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Speaker 1: the NNGI is also focused on building a sustainable model

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Speaker 1: for Territory hockey and joining us on well. In the studio,

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Speaker 1: I should say to talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: this is Jason Butcher, the CEO of hockey here in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Butch, morning Katie. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Good, Good to have you on the show. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've described it a little bit, but I think

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Speaker 1: you can describe much better what exactly this Gateway is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends so much detail and how much airtime

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Speaker 2: are you going to give me? But essentially it's about

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Speaker 2: schedule of events. So five game series against Indonesia every year,

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Speaker 2: MHL home games. Also we have the underrated National Championships

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Speaker 2: here for the next two years and then an age

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Speaker 2: cohort I'm undetermined yet for the year after. So we've

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Speaker 2: got a three to four year schedule of events which

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Speaker 2: bookend or create a pathway and a high performance program.

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Speaker 2: And then inside those arrangements there's things like we'll have

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Speaker 2: four black six players playing for our MHL team, which

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Speaker 2: sits in line with the Hockey One rules around having

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Speaker 2: imports to support teams and to profile teams. We have

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Speaker 2: two Malaysian juniors that will be playing in each of

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Speaker 2: our junior state teams so that relationship. We have coaches

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Speaker 2: will be sending to the Southeast Asia Games to support

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Speaker 2: Indonesian hockey for that, which is pretty excited. It's in

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Speaker 2: Taiwan and December, sorry Thailand in December. Hockey WA are

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Speaker 2: supporting us with resource and IP and development and also

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Speaker 2: supplementing our player list when we need to end looking

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Speaker 2: at supporting our Hockey one future bid as a stakeholder.

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Speaker 2: So there's all these pieces which are not just at

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Speaker 2: event schedule, not just a way of providing resource support

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Speaker 2: and firepower to make us stronger, but also to uplift

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Speaker 2: us in a sustainable way forever. Basically. Yeah, So that's

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Speaker 2: where these braceships are about.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been a difficult process in terms of forging

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Speaker 2: I think that piece is we have great relationships and

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Speaker 2: That's what the Fesival Hockey has been about, getting all

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Speaker 2: the relationships we have and how territory hockey's seen in

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Speaker 2: the world. And so that part hasn't been simple because

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Speaker 2: it's quite complicated. It's hard enough to even explain it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the funding and the resourcing getting our facility up

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, is that what sort of

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Speaker 2: Suppose, well, inside all of those agreements different bits of support.

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Speaker 2: So for example, Indonesia are coming here off their own

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Speaker 2: So in all of these agreements there's either resource sharing

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Speaker 1: And I guess it formalizes it all a little bit

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Speaker 2: Well, We've spoken often about aspiration and opportunity. So as

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Speaker 2: We now have tangible things that they can work towards.

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Speaker 2: We're going to Malaysia in January February, We're going to

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Speaker 2: There's an opportunity for more localized group to play against Indonesia.

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Speaker 2: You know, the National Championships is going to save our

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Speaker 2: I think we've been really strategic about making sure all

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Speaker 1: So what the steps from your perspective, I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the big thing for us, we're in

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Speaker 2: So if you think of the fact that they basically

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Speaker 1: And so from your perspective at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know you've got that four year arrangement in

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Speaker 1: Where are things actually in terms of that support from

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Speaker 2: I'd so they're probably in limbo.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I believe the Minister for Sport at the

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Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of financials are required from hockey

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I won't go through the numbers, but if

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Speaker 2: these families coming in. We hosted the fifteens in twenty

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Speaker 1: But you really need that's platform. Yeah, and you really

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Speaker 2: everything that we've been doing. You know, so far they've

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Speaker 2: But this is the next piece, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Is there like a time frame in place as far

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Speaker 2: Look, we go to Malaysia in January February next year,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, we'll try and we will see if

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Speaker 1: In terms of support from Hockey Australia. Have you got

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Speaker 2: Australia, Signed letters, Bord approval, everything is signed off heso

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Speaker 2: there's some pieces which are a bit unique. They've approved

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Speaker 2: process with no support. So yeah, they're fully on board.

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Speaker 2: They think we're doing a great job. I'd like it

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Speaker 1: You know from from the discussions that you and I

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Speaker 1: you know, to get Northern Territory hockey on the radar

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Speaker 1: right across Australia. But indeed, you know even in even

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Speaker 2: I think I think there's an it's incredibly important, but

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Speaker 2: about all sports. This is not just for hockey. For me,

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Speaker 2: I want to find ways and we want to try

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Speaker 2: and pioneer solutions that are going to help all of

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Speaker 2: our sports get healthy and make sure that our kids

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Speaker 2: don't get excluded, because that's the number one that was

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Speaker 2: the starting point of all of this, and we want

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Speaker 2: all sport to thrive. And we think this is a

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Speaker 2: blueprint if we get support from the government to deliver,

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Speaker 2: that could help a number of our sports. So they're

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Speaker 2: two really big pieces, and I think just in general

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Speaker 2: from a societal point of view, you know, I've said

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Speaker 2: this before. When sport's healthy, the territory is healthy. And

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Speaker 2: I want to see our community grow and be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more healthy than it is at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and I think sport's a massive part of that. So

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Speaker 2: I want to do things, and we've been building things

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Speaker 2: that are not just about hockey. It's how can this

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Speaker 2: help other sports and how can we provide opportunities for

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Speaker 2: the government and corporate and the community to help uplift

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think everybody knows I love sport. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing for our young people and I

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Speaker 1: would always advocate that. I think when kids are involved

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Speaker 1: in sport as well, it just opens them up in

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Speaker 1: so many ways to positives in their life, you know,

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Speaker 1: more generally, not just keeping out of trouble, being fit,

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Speaker 1: being health the having opportunity, teaching your life lessons right, purpose, everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's so many good that's exactly right. There's so many

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Speaker 1: good things. So, as I said, we're hoping to catch

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Speaker 1: up with the minister a little later in the week,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see what we can find out. But Jason Butcher,

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Speaker 1: always good to catch up with you, CEO of Hockey

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Speaker 1: and t thank you for your time. Thanks, thank you