1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast. It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: We often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and issues facing women. That is so fat Thank you, Amy, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: it's just your me tonight. It's quite nice to just 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: have that special time with you and I because we 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: have given Sophie the night off because she had a 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: quite late night last. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Night doing a bit of event planning. 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did, so it's been a really busy week 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: at Hula Media. We've had an event last night and 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Sophie handled most of the event planning, so that's why 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: we've given her the night off whereas I do our 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: content stuff. And we also had a four am start 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: for another client. It's been it's been quite a week, 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: so I'm just excited to come here and chat. 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: With you about our influence a gossip. 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Really well, you had a bit of a rough one today, 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: one of those appointments that no women like going to, 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: but it's very good that you got to do it. Yes, 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: I had a pap smear and I've got to say 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: it really wasn't that bad at all. I was telling 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: you not to get worried because I had one recently too, 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and I did speak about on the podcast, and we 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's something important to speak about and really 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: normalize because look, it's so important to get it done well. 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: I also got a. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Flu flu shot as well, so I just ticking all 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the boxes today. 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: I've got to book that in. 33 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: I said to my message Race on chat when you 34 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: had said you've got your flu shop, Like, is it 35 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: okay if I book us in, we'll go to Marion 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: and we get it done and then we'll go shopping. 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: What a cute little day. 38 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I know. 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: It's like if you have to well, you guys. 40 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: Have been doing all your wedding planning and everything, so 41 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: maybe this is just you know, you could have wedding 42 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: chat while you're getting your flu vaccine. 43 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: I know. 44 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I've actually joined a Facebook group called I think it's 45 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: like Wedding Adelaide Wedding chit Chat, and I'm a member 46 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: of this group, but for different reasons for we needed 47 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a bride. 48 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm fully aware of this story. 49 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: For some pr that yeah for some pr sorry. Yeah, 50 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Well I joined the group and I found it quite 51 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: overwhelming because these women are so organized and literally like 52 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: they're talking about what bombinary together, Like I don't even 53 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: know what that was. 54 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: So I have found it. 55 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Quite interesting while I'm watching Masks the Chef to have 56 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: a sneaky scroll through and you can find some good inspiration. 57 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: But then also, as I said, it's very overwhelming because 58 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I've started to email venues about our wedding and yeah, 59 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: sounds even weird saying our wedding. And I can't believe 60 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: how expensive some of this shit is, Like it's actually ridiculous. 61 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: You hear about oh as soon as you put wedding 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: in front of something, it's expensive. 63 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: But my god, like I don't get where these. 64 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: People get it was money from to pay for it? Yeah, 65 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: it is very expensive. I think it would be fun though. 66 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: We should actually start a wedding chitchat thread in the 67 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Outspoken Facebook group. Well, I would love if anyone has 68 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: got married recently to share their tips and tricks with 69 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: me because I feel very out of my depth. We 70 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: are looking at a wedding venue next week. 71 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: That's exciting. 72 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so maybe I should say some Snapchat 73 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, Instagram stories, I don't know. Am 74 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: I supposed to say where we're looking like? I don't know. 75 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: Don't do people care? I think you can do whatever 76 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: you want to do, all right. 77 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if anyone's got any recommendations, I would love 78 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: hearing them, because, as I said, I've got no idea. 79 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: Regina George is flawless. 80 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: She has chop bendy pursis and it's not a lexus. 81 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: I hear her hare's insured for ten thousand dollars. 82 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Let's get into the social dilemma of the week, and 83 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: this one was spurred on by a post one of 84 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: our former colleagues made on Facebook Now. She shared that 85 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: she had been walking around for half the day with 86 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: her tag hanging out on her geen pocket. So like 87 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: the brand new tag that's kind of sewn into the pocket, 88 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: this was huge, So it's kind of it's more the 89 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: cardboard tag that sits right on your bum so when 90 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: it's in the store. And so she had gone and 91 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: dropped at kids off at school, she'd gone in to 92 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: get a coffee from a place. You'd also gone to work, 93 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: and nobody said anything. Do you think it's right, Like 94 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: would you say something? Because for me, it would depend 95 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: on how well I knew the person. Oh my gosh, 96 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I would definitely say I'd pull the person aside and 97 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: just be like, I'll just let you know there's a 98 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: bit of a tag, just to you know, make sure 99 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: that you knew because it's so embarrassing. I mean, I 100 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: would feel like such shit if I'd walked around like 101 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that and no one had said anything like the realization 102 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: when you got home? 103 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Would it be? 104 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Just so there's really a way of delivering those sorts 105 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: of things though, because sometimes when someone says it to 106 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: you in a real abrupt way, you just feel like 107 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: an idiot. So I do think you've got to be 108 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: careful with the delivery. It's like yesterday I literally dropped 109 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: past Amy's house because I'd been at a meeting and 110 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: I picked up one of the cats and they must 111 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: have had dirt on them, and Amy's. 112 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, what's it on your face? 113 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: And I was like what, Because you know, just the 114 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: fear of being in a meeting with something like on 115 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: your face or in your teeth, Like it's just mortifying 116 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: to me. 117 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: Do you know what being a triplet. 118 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: I feel like because we're always around, well, growing up, 119 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: we were always around each other. We each always had 120 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: somebody to be like, oh, do I have something on 121 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: my face? 122 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: Is that you know? Is my nose? Okay? 123 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: But that's what I found really odd when I went 124 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: out to the workplace, the real world, Yeah, the real world, 125 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: that I didn't have someone that I could just turn 126 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: to and be like, have I got lipstick on my teeth? 127 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it the worst when you're sitting at a restaurant, 128 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: like on a date or something, and you're trying to 129 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: check You'll like, I use my phone to try and 130 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: check if I've got anything in her teeth, and you 131 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: just look like you're staring at yourself. 132 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 133 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: I have found myself doing that in the past. It's 134 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: funny now though, because I've been going out with Dale 135 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: for so long now, we'll ask each other. We'll be like, 136 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, have I got something in my nose? Like, 137 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: you know, is my face okay? And it's so funny 138 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: how previously you were so concerned about what they thought, 139 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: and now they're your person that you asked. Just kind 140 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: of a nice transition, I suppose when I was younger, 141 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I remember I actually went out in my shirt even 142 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: know hair. 143 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: I didn't realize if you couldn't feel it. I know. 144 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: I actually have been known to tell people that their 145 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: fliers have been undone as well. Amy very famously told 146 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: our year seven teacher that his fly was undone, and 147 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: everyone's like, now. 148 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: Are you looking there? 149 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: It was like at eye level when we're sitting down. 150 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: But actually I was quite proud of myself. Or maybe 151 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I shouldn't be proud of myself. 152 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: But the other day we were out at a shoot 153 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: and there was a guy there and he was a 154 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: young guy, and he had his fly undone, And I 155 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: just thought, after that experience with the years of a teacher, 156 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not actually dropping this that you've got your fly 157 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: and done, because I thought you kind of want actually 158 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: fly You think maybe people won't notice. I don't. 159 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's funny. 160 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know why people think it's so embarrassing 161 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: and offensive that their fly is undone. 162 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: Well did you hear that? 163 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Apparently having your torch light on your phone is the 164 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: new having your fly undone in terms of embarrassing. I'm 165 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: always doing this and people are always walked past me 166 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: at work, like your torches on, Like you know, there's 167 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: a way, as I said, of delivering it. 168 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: It was quite funny. 169 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: It reminds me the other night I got into bed 170 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: like in the dark, and I woke up and I 171 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: had my pajama pants on inside out. But the funniest 172 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: bit is they've got pockets so like the buckets were 173 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: like hanging down, and I went into the shower and 174 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I was like. 175 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: What the hell's going on? Well, I want to hear 176 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: what everyone else thinks. 177 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: So go and join our Facebook community, which is out 178 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: spoken at the podcast community and tell us would you 179 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: tell somebody if their fly was undone, or if they 180 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: had something on their pants or in their tooth, in 181 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: their teeth. 182 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 6: I am not a business man. I am a holistic healer. 183 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 6: It's a calling, it's a gift. You see, it's in 184 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 6: the best interest of the medical profession that you remain sick. 185 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 6: See that ensures good business. You're not a patient, you're 186 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: a customer. 187 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: And you're not a doctor, but you play one in 188 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: real life. 189 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: A gold cos hair salon has banned anyone who has 190 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: received the COVID nineteen vaccine from entering their premises based 191 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: on apparent side effect fears. The Kemia High Vibe Frequency 192 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Salon announced a decision via a post on Instagram. Kate, 193 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: what did the post exactly say? Well, the post said 194 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: that we are not your hairdresser. If you have had 195 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: the COVID VAS read below our reasons as to why 196 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: we will not be servicing people who have had this shot. 197 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: So the caption of the post went on to say, 198 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: we have decided to implement this into our salon for 199 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the health and safety of our staff and clients. Here's 200 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: why the unknown health effects of the vaccine are not 201 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: covered by our public liability insurance. We also have to 202 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: take into consideration the thousands of reported side effects this 203 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: shot has shown so far, such as unusual signs and 204 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: symptoms within the menstrual cycle such as heavy bleeding, flooding, 205 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: clotting and spotting at times in the cycle when it's 206 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: not normal to do so, seizures, blood clotting, bruising within 207 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the legs, and so on. We're deeply sorry for any 208 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: inconvenience to you. However, the safety of our staff and 209 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: existing clients is our priority. We will re evaluate our 210 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: policy when clinical trials of the experimental injection are completed 211 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Please notify us if you have 212 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: had this injection before making an appointment with us. 213 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: Thank you for your understanding. 214 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: This is really clearly a very polarizing announcement to make, 215 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and my first reaction when I saw is this is 216 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: a PR disaster that could destroy this business. However, it 217 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: appears that the owner of the salon made it quite deliberately. Well, 218 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: what I found astonishing about this post was the fact 219 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: that over five thousand people have actually liked it, which 220 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: is disturbing in itself. But I one hundred percent agree 221 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: this is either a PR stunt on her behalf because 222 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: this story has been covered all over the news. It's 223 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: been in online publications as well, and I mean, I 224 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: personally don't think it's a great look for the business, 225 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: but obviously she is going to get people who are 226 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: anti vaxers into her hair so on it does seem 227 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: like a decision that she has purposely made to attract 228 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: attention and, as you said, a certain clientele. So the 229 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: owner of the salon's name is Yasmina Jade Outer, and 230 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: she actually spoke to the Courier Mail today and she 231 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: said she wasn't worried about the negative impact the decision 232 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: would have on her business, so she was quoted as saying, 233 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: if anything, it will help my business and let people 234 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: know what we believe and stand for. I was not 235 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: expecting such a positive response, and I have many women 236 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: and men from all over the world celebrating this decision 237 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: and choice, especially mothers and women who are pregnant. And 238 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: just some background information for you on the owner of 239 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: the salon, Yasmina. 240 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: So. 241 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: She has actually previously been featured on SBS's Medicine or 242 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Myth TV show, and on the show, she claimed that 243 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: smearing her own menstrual blood on her face during meditation 244 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: relieved her severe period pain. I actually saw the clip 245 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: of this and it really surprised me. I was a 246 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: bit confused though, as to what her qualifications were for 247 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: being able to make these claims, because, by the sound 248 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: of it, she's a salon owner. 249 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 250 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: Well, it seems like after listening to some of her interviews, 251 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: doctor Google is guiding her views on the COVID nineteen vaccine, 252 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: and she actually did say that she this isn't about 253 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: being an anti vaxxer. She said, this is about making 254 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: a free will choice. So Yasmina jumped on her Instagram 255 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: story and this is what she had to say about 256 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: all the backlash. 257 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say 258 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 5: anything at all. And I feel that a lot of 259 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: you actually wouldn't say this to my face or to 260 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: staff or two clients that are too this for themselves. 261 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 5: And we all get to make a decision where we 262 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: want to go for our hair and where we want 263 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 5: to go in general, what cafes and restaurants and things 264 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: we want to go to. So it's not up to 265 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 5: anyone else but us. And at the end of the day, 266 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 5: that is literally the message that I'm spreading. And we 267 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 5: get to make the decision as individuals, as business owners, 268 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: and we normally will buy something from someone because we 269 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: align with their vision and their belief systems and their 270 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 5: values and their ethics. 271 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Is it just me or does it seem like she's 272 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: very much reveling in this media attention because her colleague 273 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: also posted onto the Salon's Instagram story a post of 274 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Yasmina doing a bit of like a happy dance in 275 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: her chair, and the caption said, mapping the ins and 276 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: outs of business with this powerhouse. After her post went 277 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: viral and Channel seven roped up to her salm this morning, 278 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: we going big baby. It is completely delusional the way 279 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: that she is behaving, and I actually think that she 280 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: thinks that she is getting this message out there when 281 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: she doesn't actually realize that the media are covering it 282 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: because it is so shocking and so unbelievable, and just 283 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: from a journalist perspective, this is a big story because 284 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: this is a woman who was willing to go on 285 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: camera and make these outlandish claims and it's complete click bait. 286 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Everyone is going to be consuming it because it's obviously 287 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: a very controversial topic. So it doesn't surprise me the 288 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: amount of media interest. But I do think that the 289 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: amount of media interest around is because the claims are 290 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Yeah, well back to the post, and it 291 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: is just so confusing the claims that she is making, because, 292 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: as you said, they are so outlandish and ridiculous. Yasmina 293 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: claims that the vaccine can be transmitted from one person 294 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: to another through sweat, spit and even through the air. Now, 295 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: this made me incredibly mad because not only is she 296 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: spreading misinformation, but the complete hypocrisy over discriminating against people 297 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that have done the right thing and had the vaccine. 298 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,359 Speaker 2: Is absolutely ridiculous. 299 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: It does remind me very much of back in the 300 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: day when people didn't understand that much about AIDS, and 301 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: there was that thought that if you touch somebody who 302 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: had AIDS, you could catch it. And now we know 303 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: how ridiculous that is. And I think Princess Diana was 304 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: a huge pioneer for showing people that this was not true. 305 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Of course, she hugged someone who had AIDS very publicly. 306 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: But also the thing is we're talking about an illness 307 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: that actually is transmitted person to person. But what what 308 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Yasmina is talking about is saying that somehow someone who 309 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: has a vaccine can sort of share the properties of 310 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: that vaccine with other people, which is just ridiculous. Wouldn't 311 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: that be amazing if that was true, because wet vaccinated 312 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Yeah, it also seems very ironic that someone 313 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: who is pro anti vax would discriminate against vaccinated people, 314 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: particularly when the anti vaxxers are the ones that were 315 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: crying discrimination when we ask them to wear masks or 316 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: to be vaccinated. So I feel like once the general 317 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: population and the majority of the general population is vaccinated. 318 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting. 319 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: To see how these sorts of people react because I'm 320 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: pretty sure the government, while they're saying that vaccination isn't mandatory, 321 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: I do feel like there are going to definitely be 322 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: some things that people that choose not to be vaccinated 323 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: won't get to do, a traveling and we don't know 324 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: how far that will go. I mean potentially it could 325 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: be concerts or dining out. Like, you don't know what 326 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: rules the government are going to be putting in place, 327 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and it will be very interesting to see how these 328 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: sorts of people react, because they're the ones that are 329 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: happy to discriminate against the people who are vaccinated. Well, 330 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: did you hear how they're all talking about how they're 331 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: going to wear masks to protect themselves from the virus 332 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: being shredded. So they've been anti masks, but now they 333 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: want to protect themselves by wearing masks. For the people 334 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: who were actually vaccinated apps, it makes absolutely no sense 335 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. Well, when Yasmina was asked if she 336 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 1: thought she was discriminating against those who have been vaccinated, 337 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: she responded saying, it's my business. We are business owners. 338 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: We get to make that decision. What do you think 339 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: about that? Do you think that people can be choosing 340 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: based on their own personal beliefs who should be coming 341 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: into their store, because I think that opens up a 342 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: very big can of worms. Well, it's really difficult because 343 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: when I was working at Today Tonight, we did a 344 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: lot about discrimination laws, and for example, you actually can 345 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: be technically discriminated against if you have tattoos. So somebody 346 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: can say, hey, we don't want you in the club 347 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: because of your tattoos, and we don't accept that, and 348 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,359 Speaker 1: that's because that person has gone out and got tattoos, 349 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: which is really wrong. People shouldn't be discriminated against for 350 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: that reason. But you can't be discriminated against for things 351 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: that you can't help, your ethnicity or your gender. So 352 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: are you saying, because you can choose whether to have 353 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the vaccine, it's a choice, so people can discriminate against you. 354 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 355 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: It would be really interesting. It's a really interesting conversation. 356 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: And I think there's a gray area with that because 357 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: some people could argue that people have gone and chosen 358 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, But I mean it's the same, it's 359 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: the same, it's the same question around can you be 360 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: discriminated against if you choose not to get vaccinated? So 361 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: it's really difficult. I don't know if she's actually breaking 362 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: the law in anyway. Well, I know the children that 363 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: aren't vaccinated can't go to childcare centers, So I suppose, Yeah, 364 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting one. You've never really seen it. 365 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: On the flip side, I suppose. I just wanted to 366 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: go into a little bit more about the misinformation that 367 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Yasmina and her salon have been spreading because I found 368 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: it very troubling. How to look at the Instagram story 369 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: and she actually put a call out for women to 370 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: share their own personal negative experiences when encountering people who 371 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: are vaccinated. So, like, I laugh when I say this, 372 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: but it just shocks me how someone can spread this 373 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: type of misinformation and also try and build fear in. 374 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: Other people like it. 375 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: There's a very big fearmongering site, and it really feels 376 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: like people are trying to make this a US versus 377 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: them kind of mentality. So a divide amongst Yeah, a divide. 378 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: So and this is the time when we shouldn't be divided. 379 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: We need to all be coming together to support this 380 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: vac scene because this is our only way out of 381 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: this situation. Like, if we want to get back to 382 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: normal life, everyone needs to get vaccinated. Anyway, I digress. 383 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: So the salon, as I said, put out a request 384 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: and they shared four of the dms that they received 385 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: from women who claim that they had experienced unexpected menstrual 386 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: bleeding or longer periods than usual after being in contact 387 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: with someone who had been vaccinated. 388 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: It's like the place ebo, Fine. 389 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: Isn't it. It's like always a second, I have a 390 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: strong period. This time it must be because I my 391 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: brother got vaccinated. Well, it's exactly like that. So one 392 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: woman claimed that she sat next to her vaccinated sister 393 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: in law on the couch and then three days later 394 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: she had a very heavy period suddenly when she wasn't 395 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: even due for her period. 396 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: It gets worse. 397 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: She went on to say that she was worried because 398 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: her children were around her vaccinated sister in law too, 399 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: so she plans to distance them from her and get 400 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: into some detoxing oils. 401 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the oils are going to help. I'm just like, 402 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: what the hell? 403 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: So you're actually not deciding not to spend time with 404 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: you family. Another person said that they traveled on an 405 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: airplane with lots of people who presumably had the vaccine, 406 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: and a couple of days later she started bleeding outside 407 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: of her normal cycle. So again I just want to 408 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: preface that none of these claims have any factual or 409 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: medical basis to them and are just anonymous stories that 410 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: the account shared. And I was nervous about repeating these stories. 411 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: I know we're laughing because they sound ridiculous, but that's 412 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: a scary thing. People put this information out onto the 413 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: Internet and there are people that are going to believe it, 414 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and while we all think and no, it's absolute bullshit, 415 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't help spreading this kind of misinformation when everyone 416 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: is already nervous about getting vaccinated because there is obviously 417 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: a lot of unknown But we are putting our trust, 418 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: in our faith into people that are experts in this area, 419 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: not at someone that owns a hair salon exactly. I 420 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: was actually having this discussion with our uncle who's the doctor, 421 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: and it was really interesting to hear his point of 422 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: view because he was talking about all of the media 423 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: attention and social media attention around the Astrozeneka vaccine, and 424 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: he was basically saying it is fine, and we were 425 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: having the discussion whether it is the media to blame 426 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: or whether it's social media, and I was of the 427 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: opinion that I feel like social media has made everybody 428 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: an expert now everybody. Also it's made them a source 429 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: of news. So I actually think that while the media 430 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: do hype up all of these stories, we actually have 431 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: social media to blame because we're now living in an 432 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: era where anybody can post misinformation online. Well, exactly right, 433 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: And unsurprisingly, the post has attracted a lot of attention, 434 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: including some well known people weighing in. Since recording this podcast, 435 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the post has attracted five thousand, four hundred and seventy 436 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: one likes and three thousand, four hundred and forty nine comments. Now, 437 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: one of those five thousand plus people endorsing the post 438 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: was influencer Chloe Zepp. Will you surprise that Chloe like 439 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: the post? To be honest, I wasn't actually that surprised 440 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: because there has been a lot of talk online and 441 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: rumors that perhaps Chloe is an anti vaxxer. The thing 442 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: that dumbfounds me is why she would actually. 443 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: Like the post. What does she gain by doing it 444 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: other than backlash? 445 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 446 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: Well, because she's very much sat on the fence between 447 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: the anti vaxxers and the vaxxas, And so Chloe Zepp 448 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: is very well known for sort of being a little 449 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: bit woo woo. I suppose, Yeah, well, she has a 450 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: well web that she's just launched. 451 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Wheh. She's called it the Netflix of Wellness. 452 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she has well web now, and previously she 453 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: had the app Bloom, which is very much focused on 454 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: wellness and meditation. And I know a lot of people 455 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: have been sort of asking questions about whether her and 456 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: her partner Mitchell were going to vaccinate Arti, and there 457 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: are lots of people saying, oh, why haven't they shown 458 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: him getting his vaccinations? And we spoke about it earlier 459 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and Mitch and Chloe actually came out 460 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: and said, look, we are vaccinating Arti, but we just 461 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: wanted to look into it ourselves. We're preparing his immune 462 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: system to get the vaccinations. But we hadn't heard anything 463 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: since then. Chloe has also liked anti VAXXA pages before, 464 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: and I really do think she was trying to sit 465 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: in the middle and not. 466 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: Really pick a side. 467 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: However, it seems like she has picked aside because I'm 468 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: surprised she still has her like on that post. Like 469 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: I thought she might have unliked it by now, but 470 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: she hasn't. It's do the damage already, hasn't It looks worse, 471 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: so she goes and unlikes her. I think, yeah, but 472 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, if that's the stance you're going to take, 473 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: as you said, like, why would you choose. 474 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: To do it now? 475 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: Like wouldn't you use your well web platform to try 476 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: and promote that? I mean, I'm glad she hasn't like, 477 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but it's very strange. 478 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: To be honest. 479 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: It really pisses me off because Chloe Zepp is so 480 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: influential and there are so many young women who follow 481 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: her and just lap up everything Chloe says. And that's 482 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: evident in how many clothes she sells for ZEP, it's 483 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: evident in the launch of bloom and also well Web 484 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: people listen to her, and she has this massive platform 485 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: which she could be using for good, and that good 486 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: would be prompting everyone to go out and get vaccinated. 487 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Exactly right, I said, She's chosen to like this post, 488 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: which is completely absurd. Well, I think that's why her 489 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: behavior around vaccinating Artie was so disappointing. I mean the 490 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: fact that she didn't just say yep, we're getting vaccinated. 491 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Instead they had to be like, oh, well, we're doing 492 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: our own research. I'm sorry, what you googling stuff about vaccinations? 493 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Is your research? Like? Why are we not trusting in 494 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: the medical professionals that their whole life is researching these things? 495 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: And as you said, I too, am extremely disappointed in 496 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: Chloe Zep and it kind of pisces me off, as 497 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: you say, because what qualifications does she even have to 498 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: be promoting wellness? Oh? 499 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: I know, it's ridiculous. 500 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: I had a look at well web and it's literally 501 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: just content that you could get off YouTube. It's so 502 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: basic and yeah, very disappointing. Someone else that was really 503 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: disappointed in Chloe Zep was Abby Chatfield. Oh her instance 504 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: stories about this. I was just applauding in my head. 505 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I was like, fucking go Like, I'm so spo I 506 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: absolutely loved it. Abby also wrote on the post this 507 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: is dumb as Fuck, which has received at the time 508 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: of recording, seven one hundred and eight likes. Clement hade 509 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Ford also chimed in and said, isn't this just anti 510 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: vaxx nonsense dressed up as in nonexistent unscientific reasoning, which 511 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: one four hundred and seventy nine people liked. I think 512 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: we need to throw to a clip of Abby Chatfield's 513 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Instagram story because I loved it so much. 514 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: You're an influencer and you are spreading themation that is 515 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: incorrect about the vaccine in aboaut coronavirus and about the 516 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: pandemic that we've all been enduring for so long now. 517 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: You really really need to reconsider what you're using platform for. 518 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: It's it's quite deplorable. It's embarrassing me as an influencer. 519 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: It's embarrassing for me. I'm becupociated with that new and 520 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: it's upsetting because these people have still a wide reach 521 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: and they're not using responsibly. Also, if you're an anti vaxxer, 522 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: I better not see you getting filler or you know, 523 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: have an extra fun time at a festival if you're 524 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: not on a moon. 525 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: My favorite part of Abby's Insta story was the gibe 526 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: at the end about how she doesn't want to see 527 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: these influences out and about getting filler and also at 528 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: music festivals, yeah up to no good to know good, 529 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: let's just say. 530 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: I was so spot on. 531 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: They're all like, oh, I'm just like, I've got my 532 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: crystals and like my organic powder, but I can't vaccinate 533 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: my child, but I can. 534 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: Put filler in my face. 535 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Particularly it's fucking bullshit. I'm sorry, and I just love 536 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: that we have Abby who is very woke and who 537 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: is very connected to her community calling this bullshit out. 538 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: We need more influencers to be promoting how good vaccines 539 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: are because I'm just sick of it. I'm just sick 540 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: of this misinformation bullshit being spread. And you know what, 541 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: why the hell has that salon's Instagram account not been 542 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: shut down? It is disgraceful and it needs to go. 543 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: And I urge people to actually report the post. 544 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 545 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: Here's a look what promises to be one of the 546 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 6: most dramatic and emotional finales ever. 547 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: It's the announcement we've all been hoping for. On Thursday, 548 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Network ten announced Brook Blurton will be Australia's next bachelorette. 549 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: The twenty six year old youth worker from Western Australia 550 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: will become the first Indigenous and first openly pan sexual 551 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: woman to be the central figure on the show about 552 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: bloody time. I feel like we deserve this off the 553 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: back of last year's Bachelorette. 554 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 555 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: I think that that's what has cemented Channel Ten's decision 556 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: to do something a bit outside of the box that 557 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: they haven't actually done before, because Elli and Becky's series 558 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: was so disappointing at all. They seem like lovely girls, 559 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: but everybody was crying out to have some diversity in 560 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: the cast. And also the fact that Brook is openly 561 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: pan sexual, I mean, the Bachelor. Itill been crazy not 562 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: to actually do this concept. Yeah, well, it will be 563 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: the first time in the show's history that both men 564 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: and women will be competing for Brook's heart, and I 565 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: feel like this adds an amazing extra dimension to the 566 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: show and I am so excited to see how it 567 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: pans out. There is a little part of me that 568 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: is a little bit nervous about how Channel ten will 569 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: actually produce this content, because not to be cynical, because 570 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: I am so excited that they are having this diversity 571 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: on the show, but it does worry me that they're 572 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: going to use this sort of in house maybe potentially 573 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: drama and cheating scandals between contestants in the mansion to 574 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: particularly maybe to get ratings, well, to get ratings, but 575 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: then it also really cheapens the message. 576 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think we saw. 577 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: That as well with Bachelor and Paradise when Brooke was 578 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: on it and she had just you know, she'd gone 579 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: on a couple of dates with Alex Nation, and it 580 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: was very much pushed as a big dramatic storyline. So 581 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see how Channel ten do 582 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: handle all of this, because, as you said, it's quite loaded, 583 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: isn't it. Well, it was only in twenty eighteen that 584 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: Brooke appeared on The Honey Badger's series and at the 585 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: time she was sort of basically bullied into sharing that 586 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: she had had been in relationships with women, and it 587 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: was very much used as this like dirty secret storyline. 588 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see three years on 589 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: how Channel ten actually I suppose, promotes it and edits 590 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: this type of story. 591 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: Definitely. 592 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of positive reaction to the 593 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: announcement online from both previous Bachelor and Bachelorette contestants as 594 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: well as the Bachelor community. 595 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: What has Brook's response been. Well, Brook actually. 596 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: Gave an interview to the Daily Telegraph and she was 597 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: asked about the decision to have a mixed gender cast, 598 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and she said she wouldn't have had it any other way. 599 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: She said, if it makes people feel uncomfortable in any way, 600 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: I really challenged them to think about why it does. 601 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Times are more progressive, and sexuality and gender expressions are 602 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: just so fluid these days. I'm not sure if Australia 603 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: is ready for it. I hope they are. I certainly 604 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: am now. Abby Chatfield was someone else who was extremely 605 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: excited about this announcement. She shared a post of the 606 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: pair together and she wrote, the best decision made in 607 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: casting in a long time, the indigenous representation, the queer representation, 608 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: the icon representation. Well Brook was actually on Abby Chatfield's 609 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: podcast It's a Lot, and they were talking about this 610 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: concept and so it is really amazing that it has 611 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: come and played out yeah this way. Well, it was 612 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: only a couple of i want to say, months ago 613 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: that she was on the podcast and it kind of 614 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, she was open to it, but 615 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: she really didn't think that the Bachelor producers or Australia 616 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: was ready for the concept. So it is really exciting 617 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: that things have progressed so quickly. I suppose I was 618 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: surprised because around Valentine's Day, we were talking on our 619 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: Valentine's episode about the fact that g Flip actually sent 620 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Brook some amazing flowers for Valentine's Day, So I thought 621 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: there was a romance brewing there. Imagine if they get 622 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: g Flipp as an intruder, Oh my gosh. 623 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: That would be amazing. Please Channel ten do that, that would 624 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: be heaps good. 625 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: Well. On Abby's podcast, she did say that her and 626 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: g Flip were kind of it was just a sort 627 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: of a fun thing. They were dating for a bit. 628 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: But Brook has also been linked to a geelong footballer, 629 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Jet Bows. Sorry if I'm pronouncing that wrong. I don't 630 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: really know who he is. But yeah, there's all these 631 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: rumors about her love life, which is kind of interesting 632 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: because I wonder if the media have shown a lot 633 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: of interest in Brooks love life because they did assume 634 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: maybe she would be picked up to be the bachelorette. 635 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 636 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, I suppose when you are kind of toying with 637 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: the idea of potentially being the bachelor or bachelorette, you 638 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: kind of only have like half asked relationships where you're 639 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of potentially seeing someone but you're keeping it open. 640 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be really interested to see how Megan 641 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: pissetto covers this season of the Bachelorette because she very 642 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: much likes Brook and usually it's about finding like the 643 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: skeletons and the bachelor or Bachelorette's closet, so I'm very 644 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: true about everybody else. Yeah, contest, that's very true. I 645 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: can't wait to listen to it. To be honest, I 646 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: can't wait. I just want to me girl back because 647 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: me Ston's missing the mom as well, and. 648 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 649 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 6: He's been a bit down over the past few days. 650 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 6: So hopefully mommy comes back and she reunites the whole family. 651 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: The Fiory Family's back together. Your old American woman has 652 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: gone viral on TikTok after planning a strategy of trades. 653 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: So her dream is to go from a bobby pin 654 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: up until she gets a house, so she's going to 655 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: trade her way up. Is this you because this reminds 656 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: me of something you would do, or you're going to 657 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: get some big ideas from this story? Yes, yes, it 658 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: was very inspired. So this story was in the Guardian 659 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: and the woman's name is Demi Skipper and she has 660 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: gone TikTok viral because she has been sharing each trade 661 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: as it goes along, so she has five million followers 662 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: on TikTok. 663 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 664 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, this is terrible, but it actually reminds me 665 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: of when we were teenagers and we used to drive 666 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: our cousins around. So I don't know whether we should story. 667 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: We used to have a game called fifty cent and basically, 668 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for anyone that works at McDonald's, but we 669 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: used to go through the drive through, get a fifty 670 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: cent ice cream, put a hair in it. 671 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm a shamed now saying this. We drive 672 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: back and see what we do young. Yeah, we were young. 673 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: We were driving and see what we could trade up 674 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: for the ice cream. So sometimes we got a new 675 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: ice cream, Sometimes we got to drink. Sometimes we got 676 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: a meal. Like it's pretty bad that we did that, 677 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: but it was very entertaining when you're sixteen years old, it. 678 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Was very entertaining. 679 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: So this woman, as I said, she started with a 680 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: bobby pin. Do you know what she got for the 681 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: bobby pin? First out, I have no idea, now, polish, 682 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: So she traded up to a pair of earrings. Okay, 683 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Then she traded the ear rings to a set of 684 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: four Margarita glasses, and so she's done all these other trades. 685 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: She managed to somehow get a laptop, and she got 686 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: her way up to some she started trading Nike shoes. 687 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: She managed to get a car, and then also she's 688 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: now she had three tractors. What and what's happened is 689 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: do you know Chipotle in America? So they're probably like 690 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: Australia's Sombreros so America's Sombrero. When I was in Utah 691 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: with the thirty six's, we were planning to go to 692 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: Chipotle the whole trip and we never went. 693 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: And I'm still kicking myself. 694 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, she traded the tractors for a VIP Chipotle car, 695 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: which is they normally just give it into celebrity. 696 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: So what you just get free Chipotle. Yeah, so you 697 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: get free Chipotle every every day for a year. 698 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: And that would be my literal dream if they had 699 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: a free Sombrero's card, Like, I don't know if I 700 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: would trade it for the house. 701 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: I think I just keep that. Well, people are really 702 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: pissed off. 703 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: So her five million followers a lot of like she's 704 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of backlash for making this trade because 705 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: she basically put up a video on TikTok and it 706 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: said Chipotle partner, So it was obvious that the video 707 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: was sponsored by Chipotle and this was announcing her big trade. 708 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: So when she does a trade, the videos are really 709 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: really popular because everyone's keen. 710 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: To see it. 711 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: So it just seems like she's sold out by say so, 712 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: everyone's accused her of selling out, and they're also saying 713 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: that it was a dumb trade, because yeah, because who's 714 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna you can't actually give something that's personalized like that. 715 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Like again, to talk about the thirty six is it 716 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: was quite funny because the NBO was sponsored by Hungry Jacks, 717 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: so all of the players got a fifty percent off 718 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: card and I was so jealous because I really wanted 719 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: one of the cards. And like, there was one of 720 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: the players he was so healthy that he wouldn't actually 721 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: eat the food like he was Actually it was literally 722 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: he was in the commercial, you know, like on The 723 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: Simpsons with the Krusty Berger commercial when Krusty bitees the 724 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: burban spits it out. That literally happened with one of 725 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: the NBL players. So I was thinking, well, I want 726 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: one of those cards. But I can't have it because 727 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm not an NBL player, and I would feel like 728 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: the situation would be the same. I know. The thing 729 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: is this card you Chipotle puts your name on it, 730 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 731 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: So you can't actually trade it. 732 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it doesn't have her name on it. 733 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: She has the card. As soon as the person accepts, 734 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: they get the whole year. So it's literally just like 735 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: a competition. Yeah, it's basically just a huge ad for Chipotle. 736 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: So people are pissed off. But wouldn't you think so? 737 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I remember that that TikTok video went viral of that 738 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: guy on a scooter or something and he was with 739 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: the Cranberry juice and then the Cranberry Juice company came 740 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: out and bought him a car or something. I'm sorry 741 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: the details might be there, but it seems like a 742 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: massive pr opportunity for a real estate company to come 743 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: in and say, actually, we'll take your Chipotle card and 744 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: build you a house. 745 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 746 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: And that's a sad thing because this this Demi, she's 747 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: done such a great job of being like she's so 748 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: down to earth you wouldn't expect her to take these 749 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: sponsored deals. But I just thought it was a great, 750 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: a great little to blame her though, Oh I don't know, 751 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: because she's got five million followers. I'd love to know 752 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: how much Chipotle paid her. I was going to say, 753 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to know in the group, has anyone ever 754 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: done this? 755 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: Have they tried to trade their way up? Do people 756 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: want to see me trade my way up? 757 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: Because I'm a huge Facebook marketplace person, I don't want 758 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: to encourage this. I feel like this is Amy's going 759 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: to get really obsessed with this. 760 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: What could else could you trade? Other than a bobby pin? 761 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Because she was inspired by a guy who traded it 762 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: was a red paper clip, So what could it be? 763 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: What court could I trade? 764 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: Oh God, I feel like there could be anything in 765 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: this house that you're own that's crap that you could 766 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: trade up. Not fence, maybe a hair tie or something. 767 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: Tell us what you guys think in our community? Dimone 768 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Aaron came up in the ocean and it's gone. 769 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: Those people don. 770 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: It was the epic wedding video that didn't disappoint. Now, 771 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: of course we are talking about Sarah's day and Kurt 772 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: Tills's wedding video. It felt more like a blockbuster movie 773 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: than a wedding video. 774 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 2: It went for thirty minutes. 775 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, it was very much teased on social media the 776 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: day before, so it kind of did feel we did 777 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: have that movie trailer vibe and that anticipation. 778 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: It was very well put together by the company that 779 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: did it. 780 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: I think what has got everyone talking, though, is Kurt 781 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: Tills's comments in his vows to Sarah. So he well, actually, 782 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: maybe let's go to a grab of what he had 783 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: to say. 784 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 3: I prayed for a beautiful, skinny wife with some little 785 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: surfy grom's and just to live close to the coast. 786 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Now, I've got to say I arrived early to a 787 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: meeting at work and I was sitting in my car 788 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: being a widow, watching this wedding video, and when this 789 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: part came on, I was shocked. I actually had to 790 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: wind it to make sure I heard it correctly, because 791 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that this was left in the video. 792 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: It was disappointing because I think a lot of people. 793 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: Everybody loves a good wedding video, regardless of how you 794 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: feel about Sarah's day and about Kurt. 795 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: Just everybody gets around it, doesn't it. 796 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: And I think that that was a feeling online that 797 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: everyone was saying they were crying and they really enjoyed it, 798 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: but when it got to that part, you were just 799 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: a bit like, oh, what the hell. And Sarah has 800 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: come out and responded some comment to some comments on 801 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: her Instagram, and she has claimed that it was an 802 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: inside joke. The issue here is that, of course everybody 803 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: has these inside jokes with their partner. But I just 804 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: kind of got over the fact that these inside jokes 805 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: keep slipping out and who was sitting there going like, 806 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: why didn't they make one video that is for her 807 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: and her family and then make maybe the censored version 808 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: that is for the YouTube community. Because as we know, 809 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: Sarah has had so many she's received so much backlash 810 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: in recent times, and she's had so many scandals. It 811 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: literally makes no sense as to why that line was 812 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: kept in the video, particularly when Sarah herself has opened 813 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: up about the fact that she has experienced disordered eating before. 814 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: And while it may have been a joke, I just 815 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: think that for everyone watching at home, there's nothing funny 816 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: about that comment like it. I think I feel like 817 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: it would be quite triggering for people, especially those who 818 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: have suffered eating disorders. 819 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 2: To hear that. That is what Kurt was looking for. 820 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, I just think it's offensive to Sarah at the 821 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: end of the day as well, Like I would be 822 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: absolutely furious if I stood up in front of all 823 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: my family and friends and was told that I asked 824 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: God for a beautiful and skinny wife, Like, does do 825 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: any other attributes matter? 826 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: Or it's just all about aesthetic? 827 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: And I think that was the most disappointing thing because 828 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: it did seem very based on what she looks like. 829 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: And if that's all you're looking for and a wife, 830 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: and that's all that they can provide to you, yeah, 831 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: what happens when Sarah isn't as skinny as she wats? Yeah? 832 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: I say though. 833 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: I've got to say though that besides that comment, I 834 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: thought Kurt came across as really heartfelt. 835 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: You could see that he loves Sarah so much. 836 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: Well, of course I'm not saying he doesn't, but I'm 837 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: just saying it really left a bad taste in my mouth. 838 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: It did, and it was really sad because it did 839 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: ruin what was a really nice video and something people 840 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: had been looking forward to. I think overall people still 841 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: enjoyed the video, but it just astounds me with all 842 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: the people that are around them that someone didn't watch 843 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: that and say, oh, guys. 844 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: I think we need to remove that. 845 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: I think that's the issue because when you watch the video, 846 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: the majority of the staff that work with them were 847 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: a part of the bridal party, so it's quite clear 848 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: that they only employ their friends and very much in 849 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: this bubble, and I feel like, unfortunately, you do need 850 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: no people. You can't surround yourself with yes people. And 851 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: the fact that that video passed through and went online 852 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: with that skinny wife comment is literally unbelievable to me. Well, 853 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank 854 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on your Friday. We 855 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: hope you have an amazing weekend, and please don't forget 856 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. And if 857 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: you do have time and you do enjoy the podcast, 858 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: we would really appreciate if you could. 859 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 2: Leave us a five star review. 860 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: We just wanted to address the fact we have been 861 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: looking at our reviews and a few people have asked 862 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: us to comment on the fact that we have received some. 863 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: Negative reviews of roasting. 864 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: There ye a bit of roasting, some negative reviews around 865 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: some of the deep dive topics we've been doing, and 866 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people have said, you know, it is 867 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: very similar to what Shameless are doing. And obviously we 868 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: had a segment a few weeks back where we spoke 869 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: about Shameless's new concept Scandal, which. 870 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: I have thoroughly been enjoying. I have been loving it. 871 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: I particularly love the deep dive on the cut Ashian Wedding. 872 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm actually currently now watching the cut because of it. 873 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 2: I went and watched the wedding too. 874 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: But we mentioned how we thought it was very similar 875 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: to You're wrong about. Then obviously we've brought out some 876 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: topics where we've been talking about deep dives, and I 877 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: can see where the comments are coming from. It does 878 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: seem kind of a little bit hypocritical, I have to say, 879 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: but we just wanted to flag that. In the episode 880 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: where we discuss how there is this rise in people 881 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: doing deep dive and you know how Mamma Mia and 882 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: Shameless are doing it, we also said, hey, we had 883 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: the same idea because it's something that we're really interested in, 884 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: that we have been motivated by You're wrong about and 885 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: even the Rich and of course Shameless now, so it 886 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: is something that we have always wanted to do and 887 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: as journalists We really love investigating topics, so that is 888 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: why we've been doing them. But I can definitely see 889 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: where people are coming from, and we do really want 890 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: to be transparent with our listeners, which is why we 891 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: wanted to address it. And we do really appreciate all 892 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: of the feedback that people give because we do want 893 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: this podcast to be the best it can be. And 894 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: we have had a discussion going on in our community 895 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: about what type of content you'd like to see and 896 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been enjoying the Deep Dive, 897 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: so we have had a chat and think that we 898 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: might release them later in the year as separate episodes. 899 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: So please go to our group tell us what you 900 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: want to hear, because at the end of the day, 901 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: we really want to make content that you guys. 902 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: All enjoy listening to. 903 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: So if you do enjoy the podcast, we'd appreciate you 904 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: to leave us a nice but we also are taking 905 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: all of the criticism as well on board. But yeah, 906 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: we is constructive and remember that our dms are always 907 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: open if you do want to discuss things with us personally. 908 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, come and chat to us on our dms. 909 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: We're very responsive on there, and thank you to everyone 910 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: that does tune in and listens to podcast, because we 911 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: really do appreciate it. 912 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: We get so excited when we see how many people have. 913 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: Joined the community and all of the positive feedback that 914 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: we get as well, because there's obviously a lot of 915 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: you who messages and say you love the podcast. 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