1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: The Tillies, the Australian football team taking the country and 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: the world by storm. But behind every football team there's 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: an amazing team of experts working behind the scenes, incredible 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: women who help to manage the Matildas. On today's episode, 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: we meet Gina Rees. She's the team manager at the 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Tillies who's responsible for what she calls as rolling out 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: the red carpet for her players. Gina and her team 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: are the ones booking flights, inspecting pitchers and making sure 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: everything rolls as smoothly as possible so the players can 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: focus on doing what they do best. My name's Sophie 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: and I'm the producer here at the Female Athlete Project. 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: This episode proves that there are so many roles and 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: opportunities for passionate sportswomen, both on and off the field. 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: So we hope you enjoy the second episode of this 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: mini series Managing Tilda's. 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: Gina, Welcome to the Female Athleen Project. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to your show. 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: Religiously. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. You didn't wear your merch today, which 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit flat about, but I'll forgive. 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: You a jumper, a long sleeve, love it. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: I love that. 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: I wrap it all the time, very I wrap it 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: a lot. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Actually, oh, thank you very much. 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: Only when we turn up. 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: And leave, because obviously we're in gear the time. But 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: when I turn out, I've often wrap the hoodie. 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that what you do, it's great. 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. We go a fair way back. I'm trying 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: to think what year it was back at rugby seven sixteen, 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Just before you won the glorious gold medal. 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for dropping that into conversation, just to remind 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: people it's okay. 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: You don't say it anymore when you do your an intro. 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh my intro on the I feel like I stunded 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: a bit full of myself every time I'm Chloe Dalton 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: Olympic gold Members. Well, maybe I go thank you, thank 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: you very much. Can you take us back, Gina and 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: tell us where did you first find a love for sport? 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: Ah? 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: Since I was little, always always playing. 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: Actually used to play tennis quite competitively, had a rating 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: and everything. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: So I was pretty decent for a while. 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: I kind of regret giving that up, but then I 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 4: found playing hockey. 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: So my mom used to play netball. 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of netball, so I went and 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: played hockey, but I used to sit on the sidelines 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: watching her, So it was always around it. 54 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: My dad played football, and I was of the. 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: Generation where I got told at twelve I couldn't play 56 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: football anymore. So I played all the way through school. 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: I would say I was a stand midfielder. Not sure 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: if that relates to how I play football now, but 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: back then I thought I was. And then left primary 60 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: school and was like, I will go with all my 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: boyfriends to play and they said, no, you can't play, 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: so off I went, did a bit more tennis and 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 4: then found this sport was exactly like football and tennis. 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: Combined, called hockey. 65 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Nice. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went down that route, but got into it 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: pretty late. I was like sixteen and then yeah, just 68 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: played as much as I could, worked my way up 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: a little bit, but it sort of club level. Just 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: loved it. It was just like it's like playing football 71 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: with the hockey stick, really so seems harder than that. Yeah, 72 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: it's a little bit. It's same sort of way of 73 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: playing is very very similar. So yeah, so it's just 74 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: heavily involved in hockey then and moved to Australia because 75 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: Australia is where everyone was winning, So I right, let's 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: go over to that country and see. 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: What they're doing over there, joined the winners, the winners 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: way to do it. Where did your idea to have 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: a career off field in sport come from? 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: Originally I thought, actually, my first job in Australia was 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: coaching football, so that was just coaching kids football really, 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: so nothing high level. But I was kind of on 83 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: the When I went through to UNI, it was coach 84 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: education and sort of sports development. So still just I 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: was like, I can't be an athlete, not good enough. 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: I'll just be in sports somehow and just you know, 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: be around it. Everything I love about, all the values 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: you learn, everything is just so key to me. I 89 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: just think that everyone should play sport. And so yeah, 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: I went down that pathway went down teaching, and then 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: I knew I didn't want to be a teacher because 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: I didn't want to teach people that didn't want to 93 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: be there. 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: That was the key. 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you do it in the first place? 96 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was like it. 97 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: Was an easier route and I was good at it, 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: so I was like, I'll be sweet, I'll just do 99 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: this module on teaching and I'll be fine and that. 100 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: They were like, oh, You're gonna be a great teacher, 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: and I was like, yes, to be fine. And then 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 4: eventually I was like, oh, I'm going to go do 103 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: this Australia. Think so I'll take a year out from 104 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: teaching and then came over to Australia and then started 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: coaching and did all my pathways through that, and then 106 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: was in this football coaching company and decided to set 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: up silos of like we did a lot of multi 108 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: sport coaching, and then I thought I'll bring hockey in. 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: So still sort of link in my background in hockey 110 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: to that. 111 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: But loved the development side of thing as well, Like 112 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: I loved building pathways for kids to be able to 113 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: get to where they wanted to get, and so went 114 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: into hockey doing that space. 115 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: So I was game development manager. 116 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: At Hockey New Southwest for a while and that's how 117 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: I got into, I guess, the the work side of 118 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: sport if you want to call it that, and the administration, 119 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 4: and then touched a little bit on high performance. Had 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: a mini roles like sort of high performance with Hockey 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: New Southwest, but it was just you did a bit 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: of everything in hockey, and then that's how I went 123 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: into coaching. I was doing some state stuff and team 124 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: management just popped in there. I happened to be coaching 125 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: at under thirteen's team in the same place as the 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: open women's team, and they needed a manager and it's 127 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 4: like a combination of all your skills. You do the 128 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: administration part, but you're also within the team environment and 129 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: trying to create a culture for staff and play. 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: It. 131 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: So ended up dabbling in team manager and you just 132 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: do everything as a team manager, like especially at hockey. 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Like compared to what we do at football. You do 134 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: a bit of everything. 135 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: You do a bit of nutrition, you do a bit 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: of sports science, you do a bit of coaching. 137 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: So it kind of fitted with I guess my background. 138 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 4: I could do a bit of everything in that space, 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: and but yeah, it settled in on the team management stuff, 140 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 4: but all the while needed a kind of career, I guess, 141 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: and that was where I leapt from that game development 142 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: space into I guess the well being space, which is 143 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: probably where I met. 144 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: You rugby and in players Association. 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so doing that as actually with n Swiss at 146 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: the time, I remember I was doing a split role. Yes, 147 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: I think it was three days at enswis in two 148 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: days with you or vice versa. 149 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: I can't remember. So I just pop in for like 150 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: a few days down at Narrabean and then leave again. 151 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: It feels like a life time ago, it does. 152 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just even think. I always relate to you 153 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: guys in that program. And we're at the moment going 154 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: through you know, we need a home of football, got 155 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: home matildas in Melbourne need a home of football for 156 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: the soccer is talking about that and I always bring 157 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: it back to sevens want a gold medal out of 158 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: a shed. 159 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: We were in some pretty unimpressive complete amountables. 160 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: It was very unimpressive, all squidged in together. 161 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know in many sports they can 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: say that the well being manager sat right next to 163 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: the head coaches. 164 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think we were all in that one little 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: lot of space. 166 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: And then you guys, you know male and female in 167 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: the one book communal area, Yeah, sharing lockers and things, don't. 168 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Have showers, no, no, no, no, no, just. 169 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Goot by grant work. Character building. It was. 170 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: It was interesting. So I always refer to that when 171 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: we always talk about it. We want brand new facilities 172 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: and we want all this, and I think it's really 173 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: great and you need facilities of course, but you also 174 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: couldn't have a really you know, well run program coming 175 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: out of the side of cars. 176 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: Really you guys used to change in the back of 177 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: your cars. 178 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: Somebody were sleeping in the back of their cars at 179 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: one point, sleeping in the back of the car. 180 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: Many times you'd be knocking her on just go awake 181 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: to go in and go meeting or something. 182 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was incredible and incredible I know. 183 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: So coming from en Swiss, obviously I moved to a 184 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: Hogoysel that went into the n Swiss world of what 185 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: was called then Personal Excellence. I think it's probably the 186 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: most name changes the department has ever had. You had 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: it was originally athlete well being and it's personal Excellence. 188 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: I think it's back to athlete well being an engagement 189 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: maybe now. 190 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: And so I was in that. 191 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: Space with NIS for quite a bit doing I mean, 192 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: I had four hundred athletes you have to look after 193 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: it's a huge amount. 194 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so your touch points are pretty pretty low. 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: So it's more about like the programs you put in 196 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: place and sending them the information and then obviously when 197 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 4: the ruper with the Rugbuni in place station and came up. 198 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: I was like, this is amazing. One like two teams, one. 199 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: Sport, fifty athletes max, Like, imagine what you can do 200 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: in there. And then it sort of started three days 201 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: and then I think I was full time for a 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: year and a half before I left and saw a 203 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: huge transition happen in that. So from you guys winning 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: winning that medal and then boom, new facilities, changing coaches, 205 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: just loads of just you just saw a complete sort 206 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: of shift in how that went. And you know that 207 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: happens with money and funding and all that kind of 208 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: stuff when you win. 209 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: So it was a good time to come in, that's 210 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: for sure, absolutely one hundred percent. 211 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: Remember you guys coming off that bus with those big 212 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: gold medals and I'm still on the steps just like, wow, 213 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: I can actually see a gold medal. 214 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: It was amazing. It still feels quite surreal that moment. 215 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 216 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: Fast forward, then when did the first conversation happen and 217 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: the opportunity to work with the Matilda's come up? 218 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I left Ruper based on I was really 219 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: honing in on I think I want to be a 220 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: team manager. That's where my strengths are and if you remember, 221 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: you guys, it was the Komath. 222 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: Games and you're twenty eighteen. 223 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were chucky. So James Stannard he got king hit, 224 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: do you remember, and it was really awful one of 225 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: the Australian men's seven sevens. Yeah, And I I'd happened 226 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: to take leave the week before to go and do 227 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 4: hockey at the Komwath Games with the hockey roers in 228 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: the South African team. 229 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: I was sort of helping out. 230 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: There and that clash for me of the two Olympic 231 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: sports that I was kind of trying to progress in 232 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: was something that I sort of said to myself, like 233 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: I need to try and pick like you got. It 234 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: was a point where I was like, you want to 235 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 4: go to the Olympics yourself, You've got to pick how 236 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: you want to get there. 237 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: And so I've wanted to go to the Olympics since. 238 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: Twenty four teen. When I made the decision I'm going 239 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: to be a team manager, initially it was the hockey ruse. 240 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: So that goal's shifted and for me, I think that's important. 241 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: You have goals, but you can shift in terms of 242 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: how it looks. So when I made that goal, that 243 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: was sort of going down the route of the Rugby 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: and and Swiss and it all sort of it all, 245 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: it's all been happening as I've gone on that journey. 246 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, that for me was a moment where I said, oh, 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: I need to focus Hee, I've got my job and 248 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: then the kind of area that I'm trying to progress 249 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: in through hockey, And that was when I decided to 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: leave rugby and focus on hockey and be a team 251 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: manager there. And I got roles with hockey roos here 252 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: and there, and I was a new Under twenty one's 253 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: Jill Rouse manager. So I was planning on going to 254 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: a Junior World Cup and it was all happening. 255 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: And then suddenly I get call. 256 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: From a guy that I worked with the hockey who 257 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: was with Showing's Sports Commission and they were it was 258 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: May twenty twenty one, right before the Olympic, get a 259 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: call saying there's an opportunity coming out. 260 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: They need a female team manager with the Matildas. And 261 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: I was like, well, but it's only like a small role. 262 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: It's only the Olympics. 263 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: The Olympics, right, and they weren't going to offer you 264 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 4: a contract after Its a lot all this different information. 265 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, wow, okay, cool, I 266 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: need to speak to my family. Literally, my partner's pregnant. 267 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: We're about to have a baby. What am I going 268 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: to do here? 269 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Like? 270 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: So anyway, I went back to them. I said, yeah, 271 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: let's just like it. Let's go for it. 272 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: I was working at school. 273 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: I thought, they'll give me leave for the Olympics, and 274 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: I think I can sort of balance it. 275 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: I was actually working at your school, ladies. 276 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: College hut comes to you always weird. 277 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: And then. 278 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: It ended up falling through the end up going with 279 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: someone within their system, which I think was the right 280 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: idea because I would have just been blown away to 281 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: come into an Olympic games during COVID and. 282 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: All that stuff that's happening. So I think they did 283 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: the right move. 284 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: And then unfortunately that ended up not working out for 285 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: that team manager and they opened up the roles at 286 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: the end of that year, and so I thought I'd 287 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: just put my name in the ring for an assistant 288 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: team manager role. It was I was like, it wasn't 289 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: even the Matilda's role, and I got that role, and 290 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: I thought right foot in, I was like, really, I 291 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: kind of want to know what's happening with this Matilda's 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: role Because I was being sent to the Asian Cup 293 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two as an assistant team Manager's going 294 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: to be a couple of us and so I think 295 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 4: it was a trial. 296 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: Let's be honest. 297 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: See how I go throwing the deep end major tournament away. 298 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: You go in India during COVID Wow, two weeks into 299 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: my role. So yeah, it was full on. And then 300 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 4: I came out of that tournament the manager of the Matilda, 301 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: so obviously did like rights, been there a two years 302 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: world clap right through the Olympics. 303 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: So thell on you talked about the difference in your 304 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: role now to when you first started doing team management 305 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: in hockey. What does your role now involved? 306 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: Everything? So I guess I'm the. 307 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: I'm the one that organizes all flights, accommodation operations of 308 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: the team, so I get them everywhere. 309 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm the main point of contact for the players in 310 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: terms of finance, payment, commercial media. But it really goes. 311 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: To and now because I pass it on and I'm 312 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: that main contact for all the staff in terms of contracts, payments, finance, equipment. 313 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: Ordering. 314 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: I can't even Yeah, the list goes on I do. 315 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: I do all all the little bits and then also 316 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: try to engage in the sort of leadership and culture 317 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: of the team a little bit and ensuring that staff 318 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: are happy getting what they want to be able to 319 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: do their job. I think my job is to facilitate 320 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: everyone to be able to do their job on and 321 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: off the field. 322 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: I think if you can capture it in a nutshell. 323 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: What on earth is the stress of a job like that? Like, 324 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: can you even particulate that? 325 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: We see it on my face. There's a few wrinkles 326 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: that I can put to key tournaments. 327 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, high level stress. High level stress from you know, 328 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: you've got to get the right flights. If you haven't 329 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: got the right the right schedule, and you haven't booked 330 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: the right transfer, and you like it all goes to 331 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: wrong the training venues. 332 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: It's up to me. 333 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: I'm now a pitch expert, which I was not before. 334 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: Good skill, yep, yep, I'm pretty good at that. So 335 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: if that's wrong, that's my fault, you know, And you've 336 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: got to take that on and be like, right, I've 337 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: I've messed up here or I've not done my due 338 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: diligence in checking that, and it should be at this standard. 339 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: And are we talking like the quality of the grass 340 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: to make sure that it's up to scratching. 341 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: The change room? Yeah, owers every thing. What doesn't work 342 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: my fault? 343 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: Wow, yep, that's a bit hard to thin my fault. 344 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: But like I'm the one that fixes it right. Yes, 345 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: I'll be the one that leads the group to it. 346 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: Right. You're going to go do this, I'm doing that. 347 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: We'll go fix that. 348 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, it all comes back to that single person 349 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: to make sure everything's right. I'm very fortunate I have 350 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: really good staff that I can delegate things to and 351 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: be like, that's your area, you fix it. But then 352 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: it come to me if you need me to support, 353 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: or you need me to push something, or you need 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: me to run and go to the shop for you 355 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: and get something, you know what I mean? 356 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: Like, that's what I see. The team manager role is 357 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: that you supporting all the other staff as well. 358 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: What is the biggest challenge in your role? 359 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: Time zones? 360 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: Getting fifty people across the world in the right way, 361 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: within budget and keeping a high level of high performance. 362 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: We have certain standards we have to keep to do. 363 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: You were like a CBA across the sports, so you 364 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: have to certain aspects that you have to do. 365 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're just in a situation where. 366 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 4: You're like, I can't get that five star hotel, I 367 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 4: can't get that flight, it's been canceled, it's been delayed. 368 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: Like there's levels that you're just like you just can't 369 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: you can't get to, and that you want to make 370 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: sure that everything you do doesn't affect performance. So we've 371 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: got a pretty strong match from my head coach around. 372 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: We roll the red carpet out for the players and 373 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: everything we need to we do needs to sure that 374 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: it's perfect for them to perform, and so that's kind 375 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: of what we all all do really, whether it's various 376 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: different roles within the organization. 377 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: What has it been like to be a part of 378 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: a team in the culture of a team that's so 379 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: iconic in Australian sport, in Australian culture. 380 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I'm walking around it, I was getting some 381 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: moment where i'malking around at the end of the end 382 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: of the game in the field and I'm like, I 383 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: feel like the Taylor Swifts manager sometimes like the amount 384 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: of attention that they get and it's incredible. I've had 385 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 4: things thrown at me for pulling a player away from 386 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: the fans like they are not now, Yeah, they're crazy. 387 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: These these fans just absolutely adorn them. And I think 388 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: part of it is amazing because you're like half those 389 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: people wouldn't even know like football, but they're obsessed with 390 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: the brand of the Matildas are and I think that 391 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: is amazing for what we've done in terms of we're 392 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: playing amazing football, don't get me wrong, but we're also 393 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: creating icons. 394 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: I guess as well, they're creating themselves as well, So 395 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: I think I think that's been the biggest ipe. 396 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: No, it's like, wow, we are we're in charge or 397 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: we're managing a group of extremely professional athletes that are 398 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: now seen as stars, which is crazy crazy. 399 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: How do you get that balance right from a player? 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: Well, for a perspective, yeah, we have to set clear 401 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: boundaries for performance, so whether it's after a game, giving 402 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: them a certain time on the field before they get in. 403 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: We also have to manage the relationship between the player 404 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: and the fans as well. 405 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 3: We have to be the bad guy. Hence what I've 406 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: had things frown at me. 407 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: Because they can't be seen as that that's my job 408 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: to be like that, or our security manager's job or 409 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: other staff that are helping out, like the players can't 410 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: be the. 411 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: Ones that have sort of got to say, oh, I've 412 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: got to go like you know what I mean. 413 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: They need to keep that progressing their brand and our 414 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: brand as a football team. 415 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: And so you have to balance that high performance level. 416 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 4: But also there's an element of we do still have 417 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 4: to do the commercial to get the money to give 418 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: you the high performance standards that you want. So we 419 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: will have to do those windows where you're not going 420 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: to be a football player, going to be a media 421 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: personality for a little bit or photographed or and. 422 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: Shaking certain people. So I think that's key two. I 423 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: guess balance it out. 424 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: What is your favorite failure? 425 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think we'll probably just stick on some failures 426 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: as a team manager because there's quite a few. 427 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: And as I mentioned before, if you fail. 428 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: At that role, it can actually have quite dramatic effects 429 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: on the team. So we're two, I'm two weeks into 430 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: the job. We've just we're in the Asian Cup in India, 431 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: and prior to so what we're done, we had pre 432 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 4: camp in Dubai and then from Dubai, India, we were 433 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: getting a charter flight and then we had the tournament 434 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 4: in India and then we had to get a charter 435 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: flight from India back to Dubai. The reason was a 436 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: whole lot of COVID stuff happening. Getting our gear in 437 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: and out of India is impossible with all the quarantine 438 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 4: and things that you have to go through. 439 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: So it was it was. 440 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: Easier for us and more practical from a high performance 441 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: level to get a chat in an ACT and then 442 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: from Dubai, obviously a major hub, we can get everyone 443 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: back to various different clubs across across the world. 444 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: So obviously that decision was made of two weeks in 445 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: the row. 446 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 4: I've booked the charta flight and you have to book 447 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: the return dates. So I'm looking at the draw and 448 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: I'm thinking and animal and remember this because probably on 449 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: the field after we lost the game was quite a 450 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: bit of confusion. So we're in the tournament and unfortunately 451 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 4: we get knocked out around what was around the final round? 452 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't it quarters? Quarter finals? We get knocked out. 453 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: Previously, when I've looked at the draw and I've booked 454 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: the return flight, I've gone, We've got to pick three 455 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 4: dates that we can bomb out, So go group stage 456 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: just in case semi final and final, right. 457 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but not the quarterfinal. 458 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: But not the corner quarterfinal. 459 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 4: I also look at the draw and I'm thinking, when 460 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm booking it, oh it's okay. I think we've got 461 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: like a playoff afterwards, not realizing because I'm two weeks 462 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: into the job that that playoff is actually for the 463 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: teams that need to play off for the World Cup. 464 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 4: Were the hosts, we don't need to play off before 465 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 4: they got a spot in the World Cup. Correct, So 466 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: I didn't book the return charter flight from the quarter finals. 467 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: As you know, in a tournament, once you end, see 468 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: you later get out. You've got twenty four hours to 469 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: sort of get out. They even fuck you out in 470 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: the hotel because if you've not moved on to the 471 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: next round, yeah you're gone. And I literally I remember 472 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: start sitting on the bench on the on the and 473 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: the game and it was we're literally about to lose, 474 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: and I just think we don't have a charter flight 475 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: home for another two days. 476 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 477 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: So then it's I'm going around. I'm just checking with 478 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 4: everyone another game of. 479 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: No, no, that's it right, Oh god, okay, So no 480 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: one else knows at this point in time. 481 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: No, I'm a security manager. 482 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: Obviously, we me and my security manager did it in 483 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: terms of we both consulted on the you know, the 484 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: times that we had to pick the three. Yeah this 485 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: is and so yeah, we literally I was just on 486 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: the field going I think I was just not even there. 487 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: I don't even know what happened after that game. I've 488 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: got players coming up to me going is that it? 489 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 4: And I'm like, ah, I need to just check to 490 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: make sure we don't have another game, like just trying 491 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: to bide my time, and then go shot up to 492 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 4: the match commissioner and just to double check, like this 493 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: is it. 494 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. You've been knocked out in the tournament, okay. 495 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: And then literally we get back. 496 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: To the hotel and of course the players are just 497 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: like done, you know, get food. They just want to 498 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: they just want to get out of there. And I 499 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: literally had to lock myself in to a hotel room 500 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: with my security manager, with my flight man agent on 501 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 4: the phone, all of our international relations people trying to 502 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: move our Chilter flight date to an earlier date. 503 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: But of course it's India, very difficult to come in 504 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: a night of and it was a right mess. 505 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: We ended up having to move hotels for a night 506 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: because we couldn't get another slot. They have a slot 507 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: location and that's your slot, and that's it. So I 508 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: think we managed to move it one day earlier, but 509 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: that meant we had to move hotels, and you know, 510 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: we move hotels, and you've got we're transporting people with COVID. 511 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: So there's just so much as Matt suits, there's private oh, 512 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: there's everything going on, everything going on when you're in 513 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: a COVID tournament, and so that was probably my biggest failure. 514 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: Funniest is, well, I've had some I could write a 515 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: book stuff that we've gone through that's in the background 516 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: of Behind the Team A team. Behind a Team is 517 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: probably the funniest spin off show the probably could be 518 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: to any any kind of any kind of documentary. 519 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: That's for sure. 520 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Yes, should we flip it and go to Korea? Highlight? Yeah? 521 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: Also, I mean, yeah, you can't go past the World Cups. 522 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 4: As you're probably aware of how big that was. I 523 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: probably it's a funny way it's my career highlight into 524 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: of the pre camp that we did for the World 525 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: Cup and the way that I was able to control 526 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 4: pre camp part one and all of the base camp, 527 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: like where we stayed. Everything we set up for the 528 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: players in Brisbane is definitely one of the think the 529 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: best things I've ever been a part of doing. 530 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: And I can't say it was just myself. 531 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: We had our marketing team, help chef, system team manager, 532 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: all the people in the ops that made that work. 533 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 4: I think it was just seamless in terms of the 534 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: setup we had. From a high performance point of view, 535 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 4: fields being you know, close by being like all the 536 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: things that I have to go through and tick off 537 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: is my kind of to do list to get right 538 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: to then say to the players. 539 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: Like EGO perform. Basically, I think was awesome. 540 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: The base camp set that we had was amazing, and 541 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 4: how we managed and transported everyone through the tournament I 542 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: thought was was really good, seamless. A few issues here 543 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: and there, but nothing that The pridic thing I can 544 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: say is that when the players know nothing like they 545 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: didn't know anything, that's when you know you've done your 546 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: job because they've just gone through that tournament with and 547 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: afterwards often you can have a drink with them and 548 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: sort of say, oh, yeah, do you know this happened 549 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: in the background. Do you know our frate wasn't going 550 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: to arrive for two days? Did you know we almost 551 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 4: didn't have uniform like all the things that happen. 552 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just. 553 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: Know zero about It's always funny to see their sort 554 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: of faces afterwards, and then they're obviously very grateful for 555 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 4: all of the staff that do everything they can just 556 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: to get them on the field and get them where 557 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 4: they need to be. 558 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: So what role do you think that plays in their 559 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: performance when they can just not have to worry about 560 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: those things. 561 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: I think it's a huge one because. 562 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: You'll know the personality of an athlete that control of 563 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: how you want everything to be. If we can kind 564 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: of say we've got this for you, just go and perform, 565 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: I think it makes a massive, massive difference. And it 566 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: comes down to them trusting their staff around them. And 567 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: you've got to think, like they put their trust in 568 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: me to get them across the world, the physios to 569 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: help them get back, the doctors to make sure they're 570 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: getting the right treatment, and we have to obviously honor 571 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: that and make sure we do it the right way. 572 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: So I think it's a huge relief if they have 573 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: the support around them to be able to do what 574 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: they need to do. Sometimes we get it wrong often, 575 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: but hopefully they understand we're all human as well and 576 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: everyone's doing everything in the best manner to get a medal, 577 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: which will hopefully be the career highlight. That you asked 578 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: me another time when we medal at the Olympic Games. 579 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that's it. 580 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: I want to chat about Paris. But before we get 581 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: to that, what has it been like to be in 582 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: that in a circle of a team that gets to 583 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: go to a World Cup and now to the Paris 584 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Olympia too. 585 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: It's pretty incredible to think that I was a spectator 586 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: for a bit of the Matilda. It's like for a 587 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 4: long time I was, you know, criticizing how they played 588 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: and you know, oh, what's the coach doing here and 589 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: what's going on over here? 590 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: Like do you know what I mean? Or why is 591 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 3: he playing that formation? 592 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: And then suddenly you're in it and you're like, oh wow, 593 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: it's so odd to think we put these teams up 594 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: and you think, oh, I could never be a part 595 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: of that, and then suddenly you're part of it and you're, 596 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, eating dinner with them and sharing all their 597 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: stories and you know, we've built an amazing space to 598 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 4: have players come in with their children, and yet you're 599 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: there and you're actually a part of all of that, 600 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: and I think, yeah, it's been quite the quite the journey, 601 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: because it's just I feel like I haven't stopped and 602 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: really thought about it. If I'm honest, I've had the 603 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: chance to really go wow, like, look what we've done. 604 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: And the moments I get to do that are. 605 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: Usually the game and you sort of look around and 606 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: be a full stadium, and then afterwards you're doing it 607 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: and you think, wow, like you've been a part of this, 608 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: which is pretty awesome. And then when you have friends 609 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: that know nothing about football going I'm going to the 610 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: Tillies match and. 611 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: You're like, wow, that's what. 612 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's incredible because that's what's what's what's been created, 613 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: and it's it's it's everyone's part of it, and I 614 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: think it's yeah, awesome. 615 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: A couple of players with some young kids. You talked 616 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: about creating safe spaces for them to bring their kids in, 617 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: But you've also got a daughter of your own. What 618 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: has that been like managing that as a family. 619 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was two and a half, so she was 620 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: two months when I got the job. So she's been 621 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: there the whole time as my partner has. And I'm 622 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: very fortunate to have a partner that basically lets me 623 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: go for. 624 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: Two weeks every six weeks. 625 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's a lot. 626 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah too, and then that's the minimum. 627 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: And then I was away for ten weeks for the 628 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: World Cup and I saw them at games. 629 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: That was it. So how many games do we have? Five? Yeah? 630 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: Out of ten weeks? Yeah, so seven. 631 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: It was a blur. 632 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a real blur. So yeah, it's one 633 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: of those things. 634 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: I'm very fortunate to have the support that I've got 635 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: from a partner. 636 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: My daughter is amazing. She loves watching the Tillies. 637 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: She calls it and every time I put something on 638 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: that has footbal Australia, you're going to go see the Tillies. 639 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she's Yeah, she's very. 640 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: Aware of everything, and I'm really grateful that the staffing 641 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: group and everyone are really supportive of that as well. 642 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 4: And we obviously have kids come in camp with us, 643 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 4: which I'm also so proud of the way we've done that. 644 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: And that was a whirlwind of how are we going 645 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 3: to do this? 646 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: There wasn't a blueprint there that said you go, do 647 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: you know this is how you have children in camp 648 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: and how you're going to ensure that that player is performing, 649 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 4: Because that was the biggest part of how we developed 650 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 4: policy was how are we going to help the player 651 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: perform but also be a mum. And that's what you 652 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: have to keep trying to remember is I can do that. 653 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: And there are some tweaks, so we have to. When 654 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: it's a friendly it's different to when it's a competition, 655 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 4: and we have to make some tweaks on how that 656 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 4: looks because we have to protect the high performance environment 657 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: for players that don't want kids in camp, and there's 658 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: a real balance of how we do that. And then 659 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: also we try and ensure that staff have that space 660 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: to talk about their families, see them at games, that 661 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: kind of thing, And I think that's really important and 662 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: a credit to Tony the head coach, who's kind of fostered 663 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: that more family friendly approach. 664 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: I haven't been a part of that much before. 665 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: I mean, it was crazy to think that we had 666 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: it at Rugby Seven's with. 667 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Oh Nicole Bert yeah yeah yeah, pap yeah yeah yeah. 668 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: And I mean her little girl was just wandering around everywhere, everywhere, 669 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: literally on the side anywhere. Yeah, and so a little 670 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: bit of that or we took I took a little 671 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: bit of that experience, seeing that and seeing the good 672 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: and the bad, and then how we do that within 673 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: a national team where they just come in for two 674 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: weeks at a time. It's not it's not a centralized program. 675 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, lots of learnings across that, and I think 676 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: we've done it really well. I'm sure my as I 677 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: said before, my partner's probably like, yeah, when you're done, 678 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: You're probably You're probably done soon, Gina, because yeah, going 679 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: away a lot, and I want to see my little 680 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: girl play football and coach her and going to see 681 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: her every pick her up at daycare every day. 682 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: And that kind of stuff. So there'll be a time 683 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: when I set back a bit. But it's the Olympics. 684 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: Olympics, it's happening. How are you feeling. You walked in, 685 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: I want to say to HIV. But there's a lot 686 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: going on. 687 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. 688 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: There's a lot of late night meetings with Europe, there's 689 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: a lot of the Olympics is a different beast because 690 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: you've got almost two organizations running it. Because with football, 691 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: you're not centralized in the in the village where you've 692 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: got where you're just basically in there and everyone takes 693 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: care of you. 694 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: From that point of view, you're just in there. Ours is. 695 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 4: A remote program, decentralized where we have. We're moving around France, 696 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: so we actually don't get go in the village unless 697 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 4: we top. 698 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: The group, right yep, and or go to the final. 699 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: So if we top our group, we will play our 700 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: court finals out from the village and that we're all 701 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: around Marseilles Nice Leon in France, so it's almost like 702 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: a separate tournament itself, but you're still then bounded by 703 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: AOC regulations and rules. You've got FIFA, and then you've 704 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: also got IOC Paris twenty four, the LC so I 705 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: got three competing, Yes, so there's a lot there that 706 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: you're administration wise trying to manage. But then you know, 707 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: still trying to push the level of performance standards that 708 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: we need in a tournament that's probably not the same level. 709 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: As what we're used to. So there's a little bit 710 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: going on. 711 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm not waiting to watch, I'm counting down. 712 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be amazing. 713 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: And the state I went, we did a visit just 714 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 4: I can't remember when I'm not gonna lie my brain's gone. 715 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: I think it was May April May. We did a 716 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 4: visit to all the venues and the stadiums are just fantastic. 717 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 4: So from a watching football, if you're over there, try 718 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: and get to some football games because the stadiums are amazing. 719 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: And I think it will be if you just look 720 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: at the teams competing. I mean, look at our group alone, 721 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: and then Mammoth matches so and that's every group. There's 722 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: no easy group in the Olympics, which I think is amazing, 723 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: and it's amazing that we got there to put ourselves 724 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: in a position. 725 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: Where a few wins, new draws and you never know 726 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 3: where you're at right. 727 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: So piece of advice for a young girl, a woman 728 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: wanting to get involved in sport more in an administrative 729 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: or off field role. 730 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: You definitely have to dedicate your life to it. It's not. 731 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 4: It's not something you do have heartedly. And I think 732 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: I relate to that to an athlete as well. If 733 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: you work, if you're an athlete, you could got to 734 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: dedicate your whole life to it. I think anyone you 735 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 4: speak to in sport working in sport, it's their life 736 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 4: it's what they get up and do and revolve around with. 737 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 4: And it was actually interesting. I was having a really 738 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 4: low day the other day and I put on your 739 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 4: podcast and you're trying to Holly the water Pope Smith. 740 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 741 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 4: Wow, incredible story, incredible And I was crying too as well. 742 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: I was a miss during that episode. 743 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I. 744 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 4: Was driving somewhere I can't remember, probably going to shed 745 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: pack gear, and I think I was just like, oh 746 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 4: my god, what am I doing with my life? Like 747 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: this is too much, and just hearing her story and 748 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: just hearing her sort of say like it's hard, it's 749 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 4: not easy. And I think just to remember that from 750 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: a staff point of view, it's not easy to get 751 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: one Olympic Games. As a staff, Remember you have to 752 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: sacrifice your family for seven weeks that you're aware, you 753 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: have to put the hard yards in doing jobs that 754 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: you don't want to do, not getting paid, not getting 755 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 4: you know, the right recognition, maybe even but if that's 756 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 4: what you want to do, then you've got to put 757 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: the hard work and you've got to do it. And 758 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 4: I think it just helped me. I remember listening to going, 759 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 4: oh God, I need that. I'm not an athlete, at all, 760 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 4: And I'm you guys go through way more stress on 761 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: your bodies and what we do is staff but like 762 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: in terms of the hard what you've got to put in. 763 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: It just reminded me that working till one am each night, 764 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 4: at the minute, is it's going to be worth it. 765 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we get we have a lot 766 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: of stress, but you guys have the stress but don't 767 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: get as much glory. So I think it's that's why 768 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm really glad to have the opportunity to do this 769 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: minise with the three of you, because I think it's 770 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: really important to share your stories as the people behind 771 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: the scenes that work all hours into the night to 772 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: make it happen, to allow the athletes to perform at 773 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: their best, because I do think you guys deserve a 774 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: lot of credit for what you do. 775 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 4: I think there's one moment in the World Cup which 776 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: sums up like the level of like I get what 777 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: you say, like we don't read the benefits, but like 778 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: that goal when Sam Kirk scored against England and I thought, 779 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: oh my god, we don't have to move back to Brisbane. 780 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: Again to play. 781 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: We're going to be in Sydney and going to play 782 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: that you saw. I think there's a video of me 783 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 4: I fly off the bench with mclipboard. 784 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 3: This pumped through the air and. 785 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: You could that was just a pure relief of, oh 786 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 4: my god, we might operationally not. 787 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: Have toes again. 788 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: Obviously, unfortunately we didn't end up winning that game, but 789 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: that was I think there is aspects of when we 790 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: do succeed that all the staff really feel it. 791 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: I love that it was a key moment. 792 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: That's great. It's been really lovely to catch up again. 793 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: We haven't caught up for a long time. And thank 794 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: you for your insights and your stories. It's it's been 795 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: a lot of fun and I think amazing to get 796 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: that behind the scenes look into what your role involves. 797 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: So thanks so much, Gina, I appreciate it. 798 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: Thanks having me. 799 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: You get to listen to your own podcasts. 800 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I'd like skip that one. 801 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 802 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 803 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: could send it on to one person who you think 804 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: might enjoy it. 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