WEBVTT - FRIDAY DRINKS: (Pay) Secrets Be Gone!

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr

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<v Speaker 1>the Order KERNI Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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<v Speaker 1>of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming

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<v Speaker 1>through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing

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<v Speaker 1>and the storytelling of you to make a difference for

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<v Speaker 1>today and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money. Need the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast for millennials who want financial freedom. Today, my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>is Friday, which means it is time to sit back

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<v Speaker 2>with the girls, I Ate, Jess and I with a

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<v Speaker 2>bev in hand, to unpack our favorite moments from the week,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, to celebrate you, our incredible She's on

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<v Speaker 2>the Money community. As always, we're going to be sharing

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite money weeds. We're going to be discussing what's

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<v Speaker 2>making news in the finance world, and we'll be helping

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<v Speaker 2>to answer a juicy money Question, which this week is

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<v Speaker 2>all about prenups, but first it is time to recap

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<v Speaker 2>the week that was. I'm going to start with Monday's

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<v Speaker 2>money Dry episode, which this week was all about someone

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<v Speaker 2>who'd moved out of home and interstate at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of seventeen and was now twenty five a registered nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>But the spicy part was she worked in a jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that that was so interesting and we

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<v Speaker 2>had some conversations. I obviously took it down my own

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<v Speaker 2>root of questioning, because Jess, you're not there to keep

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<v Speaker 2>me on track an so I just go rogue And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what about the ethics of it? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what about providing care to people that you no might

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<v Speaker 2>have killed someone else? Like how does that work? So

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<v Speaker 2>I found it really interesting, and to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 2>found her really compassionate and kind because she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not there to judge their circumstances. I'm there to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that they're healthy, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a very very kind human. She was actually really

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting as well. She lived with her partner and

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<v Speaker 2>she had two dogs, which obviously I was really interested in,

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<v Speaker 2>but she also decided to get on board the first

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<v Speaker 2>time Super Savis game, which is an absolute mouthful, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's contributing an extra six hundred dollars each and every

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<v Speaker 2>single fortnight to Super because they want to buy their

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<v Speaker 2>first time in three years. And I just thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool to see a twenty five year old

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<v Speaker 2>at that stage where she's like, I'm just saving, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get there. This is my plan, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my strategy. And it's really nice to talk to people

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<v Speaker 2>who have strategies that are a little bit longer, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think so many times we talk to people and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, yeah, I'm going to buy property, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>always I'm going to buy property this year or next year,

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<v Speaker 2>or I already have fifty thousand dollars savings, and for

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<v Speaker 2>some people that's just not relatable. But this money drest

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, this is a three year game plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still to it. And I was like, yes, Quinn,

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<v Speaker 2>get it. Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>But having a plan and sticking to it takes the

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<v Speaker 4>pressure off a bit and setting up that habit. She's

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<v Speaker 4>basically paying a mortgage here. I mean like she's getting

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<v Speaker 4>herself in that habit now, which is only going to

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<v Speaker 4>make her life a whole lot easier when she finally

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<v Speaker 4>does get to buy her home.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, And I just think that too many times we

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<v Speaker 2>only see the shiny side of property purchasing, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on that journey at the moment, which is not shiny,

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<v Speaker 2>not shiny. But it did take you a while to

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<v Speaker 2>save your deposit and you were really diligent at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think people understand the compromise that comes

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<v Speaker 2>along with making a big, long term financial decision because

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<v Speaker 2>it's going into your savings account. It's not going somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every single day you're challenged as to weather, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to go on another holiday with friends,

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<v Speaker 2>or do you want to go out for brunch? Or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to make these decisions. It's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that you just go, yeah, we've been planning this for

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<v Speaker 2>ages and it was no biggie. Y's a biggie. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a massive So it was really nice to have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat with her. She was full of bubbles and I

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<v Speaker 2>really loved her. Oh my gosh, she sounds incredible. What

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<v Speaker 2>did we talk about a Wednesday though, Jessica?

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<v Speaker 4>So on Wednesday we recapped the top five performing ETFs

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<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty two, which was a really fun episode

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<v Speaker 4>to do for a couple of reasons. Firstly, did you

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<v Speaker 4>know that this year our very best fine you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to say, was recapping the best ETFs of twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one one? Yes, we did our Spotify rapped rapped,

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<v Speaker 2>not rewrapped rap, Spotify wrapped, And it came out that

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<v Speaker 2>that was our most popular episode by like heaps. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like, you know, a thousand listence, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>what was It was like fifty six percent or something ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, ah, you guys were more investing content.

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<v Speaker 2>I see you, I hear you. So watch out twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lots more investing content coming your way. But the

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<v Speaker 4>reason I really enjoyed this episode was because it's obviously

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<v Speaker 4>the second year now that we've done it. It was

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<v Speaker 4>really cool to be able to compare and look back

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<v Speaker 4>at the industries that performed really well last year, because

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<v Speaker 4>we spoke a lot in that episode about how it

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<v Speaker 4>was a real anomaly in the industries that performed well

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<v Speaker 4>and more specifically the percentage of growth that they saw

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<v Speaker 4>because last year there were companies that had growth of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sixty seventy Yeah, like crazy, and you, at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, as an advisor, said this is not normal,

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<v Speaker 4>And as someone who was new to investing, I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like I sho.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I was going to be companies that performed

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<v Speaker 2>that way? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when we looked at this year's top five,

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<v Speaker 4>the growth was so much done in comparison. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to give it away. You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>go listen to the episode if you want to know. No,

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<v Speaker 4>they've got to go listen to the episode if they

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<v Speaker 4>want to know all the juicy ds. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>completely different industries, completely different ETFs, and also completely different percentages,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just cool to look at as someone who's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of interested in the data and also as a

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<v Speaker 4>newer investor to see just how much of a difference

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<v Speaker 4>twelve months can make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean I'm boring, so I love this content,

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<v Speaker 2>but turns out you guys do too. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would be interesting as well if you hadn't listened to

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<v Speaker 2>that episode or you're newer to the podcast, because we

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<v Speaker 2>learn also from our Spotify wrapped that our community has

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<v Speaker 2>grown by what thirty seven percent, So thirty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners are new this year, which is very,

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<v Speaker 2>very cool. So if you're one of them, I would

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<v Speaker 2>actually go back and listen to that twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>rap and then the twenty twenty two just so you

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<v Speaker 2>can understand what we're talking about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>changes in the economy and changes in the market and

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<v Speaker 2>the different industries that were showcased, because both of those

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<v Speaker 2>episodes are not going to be able to guide you

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<v Speaker 2>on what to invest in in the future because past

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<v Speaker 2>performance is not a reliable predictor of future performance. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that it's just reflecting on the year that was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you guys will actually find it really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting now that there's two episodes that kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>the same format to go, Wow, in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>it did this, and then in twenty twenty two it

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<v Speaker 2>did this. We can't predict what twenty twenty three is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, and that's why we have to always

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<v Speaker 2>be switched on making sure that we have really well

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<v Speaker 2>diversified portfolios, and then we're not jumping the gun on

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<v Speaker 2>things and not trying to just follow trends because Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had listened to that twenty twenty one episode

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<v Speaker 2>we did, and you're like, oh my gosh, zoom and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this is really performing because of COVID. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to jump on that bandwagon. You weren't even going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the top twenty this year. That would

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<v Speaker 2>have put you behind. So I think that we need

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about how important it is to not take

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<v Speaker 2>these episodes as advice but rather education. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>harp on about it all the time, but that's a

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<v Speaker 2>really solid example of Hey, our twenty twenty one wrap,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had decided to take that as advice, you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't even going to make it the next year. We

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<v Speaker 2>really need to be more diversified than that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And for twenty twenty one, we also did an

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<v Speaker 4>episode reviewing the top five performing individual shares.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do that again? Should we do that again?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? If you want to see that, let us know,

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<v Speaker 4>slide into our dms because we can always.

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<v Speaker 2>Just changing the name of the podcast is not She's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Money, it's She's on the investing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great idea. Victoria's so stoked. I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>these queens have caught up.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, enough talking investing vas. I know you could

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<v Speaker 4>do that literally all day, but instead, let's get into

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<v Speaker 4>today's budget direct money wins some confession, let's still it already.

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<v Speaker 4>So my first win this week comes from Shan, who

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<v Speaker 4>said a colleague told me I could claim my master's

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<v Speaker 4>degree on tax as work related self education, amended tax

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<v Speaker 4>return and got another ten thousand dollars back.

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<v Speaker 2>What money, ween? I love that. That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I always want to know what people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it when they say I got an extra

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<v Speaker 2>ten grand, Like, where did it go? I know I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get I'll come out back to Shan and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>where's it going? What are you doing? Victory wants to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm perviey, Please tell me your financial circumstances.

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<v Speaker 4>Our next wind comes from Kira, who said, money win.

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<v Speaker 4>I made eighteen little gifts for my daycare and school

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<v Speaker 4>teachers from my kids, using things I already had at home.

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<v Speaker 4>I've only spent twelve dollars on seedlings. And she put

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<v Speaker 4>in a photo of nine that are going to school tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're these really cute little pots with flowers that

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<v Speaker 4>she's grown from the seedlings.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I feel like that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>Week she can say, oh, like me and my child groovy.

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<v Speaker 2>You Yeah, that's really cute. I feel like my mum

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<v Speaker 2>used to put so much energy and effort into the

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<v Speaker 2>teacher gifts for my teachers growing up, and I look

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<v Speaker 2>at it now and I'm like, what is that an

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<v Speaker 2>expectation of parenting? Because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also a big expense because kids that are in

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<v Speaker 4>primary school particularly have a host of what like five

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<v Speaker 4>or six different teachers that they would see across the week,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they would have their homeroom or their core teacher

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<v Speaker 4>and their art teacher and their sport teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like where do you draw.

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<v Speaker 4>The line because that's gone to get expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, if you're a teacher at Christmas time, do

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<v Speaker 2>you just end up with sixty million seedlings on your desk?

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<v Speaker 2>Or chocolate? My sister in law is a teacher. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you are right with chocolates? I feel like chocolates is

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<v Speaker 2>a good compromise. I always feel like presents for people

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not that close to should be somewhat disposable.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a bad thing? I don't know, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>feels less thoughtful, But like if I didn't know you. Well, Jess, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go buy you some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>decor for your home that you then put in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner of your house and you're like, oh, that's sick,

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<v Speaker 2>like wine, food, chocolates, biscuits, something that can be consumed,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated and then not have an impact on your decor

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<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, my sister in law always says there's only

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<v Speaker 4>so many World's Best Teacher bugs that you can have,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's that's a really thoughtful, kind sweet gift. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's also I think one that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>go for when you go to our house.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just like those are the only mugs truly

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<v Speaker 2>from turned out where all the.

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<v Speaker 4>My next win comes from Evelyn, who said money Win.

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<v Speaker 4>I won a Vinnie's gift card this week. I love

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<v Speaker 4>op shopping. I'm patiently waiting for it to come in

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<v Speaker 4>the mail, which I didn't even know that you didn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>No cards for the option. Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was really fun because obviously we're all

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thinking about Christmas and gifting, and if you

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<v Speaker 4>know someone who loves op shopping, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 4>a really.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice it's thoughtful it's really cool for.

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<v Speaker 4>Gift because if you give them even like a ten

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<v Speaker 4>or twenty dollars gift card, it's going to go quite

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<v Speaker 4>far at somewhere like an op shop compared to if

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<v Speaker 4>you just bought them one for glassons or something, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was really really sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>My next win comes from Jess, who says, I'm engaged,

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<v Speaker 4>can grat.

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<v Speaker 2>I need like that a most fun time ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, she said she found a gorgeous modern wedding dress

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<v Speaker 4>in my size add an op shop for twenty dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>What twenty dollars is she missing a zero? Because that

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<v Speaker 4>is a money win if it's twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought. We impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd love to see a photo dress. Add a photo

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<v Speaker 4>to the throat so we can all have a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a sticky bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've had my wedding, I absolutely am going to

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<v Speaker 2>be using an abusing wedding content like I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see all your dresses, I want to see all you styling.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see everything, and it's really self serving,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, we're all for it. It is wedding

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<v Speaker 4>season and I am loving it. And then my second

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<v Speaker 4>to last win I have comes from Caroline. She says

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<v Speaker 4>I saved nineteen dollars a month by switching my mobile

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<v Speaker 4>phone account to another provider. Plus I get more data

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<v Speaker 4>and my unused data rolls over each month. It might

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<v Speaker 4>not be much, but I'm on my own now and

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<v Speaker 4>have bought She's on the money, and set up my budget,

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<v Speaker 4>got a planner, and am ready to move forward in

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<v Speaker 4>the New Yark. Hi you queen, Yes, Caroline, you are

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<v Speaker 4>getting on top of it. You are taking control. And

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<v Speaker 4>you've also reminded me that I actually need to call

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<v Speaker 4>my insurance provider to see if they will do me

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<v Speaker 4>a better deal because I got my insurance renal and

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<v Speaker 4>it is expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, always ask for a better deal. But also it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up to the stiff season and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us have some time off. Now is the time to

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<v Speaker 2>review your phone plan because there are so many cheap

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<v Speaker 2>ones out there, like I basically have. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and fifty gig of data for forty

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<v Speaker 2>five bucks a month, and I think that's a money win.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also know I could get it cheaper. Do

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<v Speaker 2>I need to? I don't know. Forty five bucks a

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<v Speaker 2>month is pretty good, but like, if yours is more

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<v Speaker 2>than that, I absolutely would be reviewing it because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, especially at Christmas time, there are heaps of

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<v Speaker 2>deals flying around to save some money on your phone plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I fully agree.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you've got the extra time off, what better

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<v Speaker 4>way to spend it than by saving yourself some money.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna feel good and future you is one thousand

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<v Speaker 4>percent going to thank you. The very last money win

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<v Speaker 4>that I have today is from Rihanna, and she said

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<v Speaker 4>money win. I caught up with a friend last week

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<v Speaker 4>and he shouted me a coffee. It's the little things

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<v Speaker 4>that make.

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<v Speaker 2>Your day money. When I got a free coffee this

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<v Speaker 2>week too, that's absolutely money win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I found one of those ticket you know, like the

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<v Speaker 2>coffee cards down the side of the car, which fools. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>next one free money win. Oh my gosh, makes your day?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jess, it is time to wrap it. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been great celebrating some of your budget Direct

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<v Speaker 2>money wins. Budget Direct winner of can Star's Insurer of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year Award twenty twenty two. Budget Direct Insurance solved.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, everybody, today, I have a kind of really

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<v Speaker 4>exciting it's really exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean kind of super exciting? I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have been jumping up and down

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<v Speaker 2>about this for years. I had a video go viral

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok about this. Yeah, and by viral, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>like not as viral as everybody else's videos, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a million views. That was pretty good. But

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<v Speaker 2>what is it, Jess? What are we talking about today?

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<v Speaker 4>So some new industrial relation laws have passed through Parliament

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<v Speaker 4>this week, which there's a whole bunch of different things

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<v Speaker 4>that are kind of covered off in these reforms, But

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<v Speaker 4>the big two that I want to talk about today

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<v Speaker 4>are pay secrecy and flexibility. Pay secrecies banded in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Spoiler alert. It's so exciting. This is something we've spoken

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<v Speaker 4>about heats on this show. If you're not familiar. Pay

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<v Speaker 4>secrecy is essentially just a laws that is included in

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<v Speaker 4>some people's contracts that expressly prohibits people from discussing their

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<v Speaker 4>salary with other employees or people external to the company.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're going, gee, Jess, why why would they

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<v Speaker 4>put that in there to protect themselves, to stop people

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<v Speaker 4>from saying, hey, I'm earning fifty five thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 4>this other person being like, oh my god, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same job as you, and I'm earning eighty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars. That is a joke if that happened, because

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<v Speaker 4>in that so trio, the person on the fifty five

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars is going to be like, well, that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing the same job time.

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<v Speaker 4>It is so eg It is really exploitative, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know that law. I think when we've spoken about in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, we've said it really only exists to protect companies.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't do anything to protect employees. All it does

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<v Speaker 4>is gag you essentially and stop you from being able

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out what you're worth, but also what other

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<v Speaker 4>people are worth as well, and it stops things from

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<v Speaker 4>people unionizing and banding together and kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>working as a team to increase everybody's position.

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<v Speaker 2>The I want to be in a better position exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's insane to me that this hasn't happened earlier. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited about it because I was reading something

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<v Speaker 2>last weekend about how you remember ages ago, Jess. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked on the podcast. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>pre you or it was with you, because I live

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<v Speaker 2>in a bubble. But we're talking about how it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take one hundred and fifty years to close the

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<v Speaker 2>gender pay gap. So we're talking about that, and it

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<v Speaker 2>has now been increased to two hundred years because during

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<v Speaker 2>COVID we went significantly backwards and that really sucks. But

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<v Speaker 2>something that plays into that genuinely is pay secrecy. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to this thinking, oh, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>thing like I've always been open about it, lucky you,

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<v Speaker 2>because so many people are in that position. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a nurse or you are a teacher, often your salary

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<v Speaker 2>is really transparent because you're on an award and that's

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<v Speaker 2>great and you can talk about that and you know

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<v Speaker 2>how to predict, well, if I go up this level

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm in this band, this is what this will mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are so many things in so many industries

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<v Speaker 2>that stop people talking about their incomes or talking about

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<v Speaker 2>their remuneration. And think that is wildly unfair, because today

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<v Speaker 2>the gender pay gap in Australia is still twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>point eight percent, which is way too many percent for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But the exciting thing about banning pay secrecy is hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we can follow suit with Canada who found that once

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<v Speaker 2>they banned pay secrecy, they found that the gender pay

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<v Speaker 2>gap between men and women was reduced by twenty to

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent. Wow, how easy is that? Like, just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your salary puts us in a twenty to forty

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<v Speaker 2>percent better off position.

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<v Speaker 4>That crazy, And the gender pay gap is really central

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<v Speaker 4>to this updated bill, which is the Secure Job's Better

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<v Speaker 4>Pay Bill if you would like to look up the reforms.

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<v Speaker 4>And another really significant factor I guess that we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about in terms of that gender pay gap is caring

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<v Speaker 4>and how a lot of the time women have to

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<v Speaker 4>take time out of the workplace because statistically we know

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<v Speaker 4>that more often than not they're the primary cares. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to take time off at a minimum if you're

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<v Speaker 4>giving birth, let alone, if you're the person who's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be staying at home with the kids. And so

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<v Speaker 4>another element of this reform that I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 4>Percon is they've now made it so that it is

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<v Speaker 4>illegal for an employer to unreasonably refuse flexible working options.

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<v Speaker 4>So for our working parents who can't afford to put

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<v Speaker 4>their kids in daycare every day, I think is a

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<v Speaker 4>common example we see in the group because daycare is

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<v Speaker 4>so expensive, well after school care, if you've got a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>How expensive it is. And you know, not to throw

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<v Speaker 2>my business partner Cage under the bus, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>having a chat with her the other day, and she

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<v Speaker 2>has two beautiful little boys who both go to day

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<v Speaker 2>care full time because they have working parents. I could

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<v Speaker 2>not believe how expensive it was. It's basically a mortgage

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<v Speaker 2>repayment for them. And I'm so grateful and very happy

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<v Speaker 2>that they're in a position where, you know, that's affordable

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes sense and she can go to work

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, earn an income. But for so many people,

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<v Speaker 2>the finances just don't stack up. Now. Having your kid

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<v Speaker 2>in daycare is just redundant because you're like, well, at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, I might be taking home

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<v Speaker 2>less than I was before just to have them in care.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, that seems honestly insane, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many questions I have around that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because we know already just that daycare employees do not

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<v Speaker 2>get paid well enough, any type of childcare doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>paid enough. But then where's all this money going the

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<v Speaker 2>childcare center? Or yeah, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you just look at it and you're like, how

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<v Speaker 2>many kids would you have at you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty one hundred and forty bucks a day, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's huge amounts of money. And for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people, that's why it is really hard for women

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<v Speaker 4>or primary cares to get back into the workforce. And

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<v Speaker 4>so by making it unlawful for employers to unreasonably refuse flexibility,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to make a huge difference because

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<v Speaker 4>not every industry, unfortunately, is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>work flexibly. It's one of those hard catch twenty twos,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess when you talk about things like this, But

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<v Speaker 4>for a lot of parents who work corporately, or a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who work in maybe industries that aren't

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<v Speaker 4>directly service based, it's going to make a world of

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<v Speaker 4>difference by allowing them to hopefully work from home or

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<v Speaker 4>leave to pick up the kids and then work the

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<v Speaker 4>remainder of the day from home. There are so many options,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've spoken lot on the podcast about the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that flexibility really should be a standard. You know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you trust your employees and if they're doing well, it

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be an issue for them to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>go pick their kids up, or to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>go to a doctor's appointment if they're pregnant, or to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to go and see somebody if they're like

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<v Speaker 4>really stressed about their mental health. Like making time for

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<v Speaker 4>those things in their day to day life is important,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm really excited to see laws and reforms being

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<v Speaker 4>brought in to support those people in a way that

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<v Speaker 4>previously they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because obviously conversations like these weren't happening pre COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember having conversations with people and I'd say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we should let people work from homeland or two days

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<v Speaker 2>a week, and I was shut down so quickly. I

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely not. People are not productive at home, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll take an into run a mile like it's insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just remember being like, oh, I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so. Like I remember when I would work from

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<v Speaker 2>home back then, they were my most productive days because

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<v Speaker 2>no one was pestering me or you're asking questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could just smash through a whole day's worth of

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<v Speaker 2>work and I'd feel super caught up. And now post COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having conversations with friends and just I had a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with someone last weekend and they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like an email went out in our team this week

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<v Speaker 2>that said all managers and this person was a manager,

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<v Speaker 2>have to be in at work five days a week

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<v Speaker 2>next week. You know, They've finally renovated the offices and

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<v Speaker 2>they want to make use of them. And I'm just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to go so backwards for them if

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<v Speaker 2>they are demanding that people who were performing their jobs

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly well from home. You know, I'm not expecting that

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<v Speaker 2>every single company says, oh, we don't need to have

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<v Speaker 2>an office at all, Like yeah, cool, expect people to

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<v Speaker 2>come in one or two days a week or three

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<v Speaker 2>or four or whatever it is. But to remove all

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<v Speaker 2>flexibility once people have crafted their lives around having some

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<v Speaker 2>level of flexibility just seems a bit cruel to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it just doesn't make sense unless there's an issue

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<v Speaker 2>where I have to sit someone down and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, you are being not productive at home. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>need an office? Yes, Like why is there an issue?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree?

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm really stoked about these changes and to

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<v Speaker 4>see how they kind of roll out and how they

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<v Speaker 4>impact people, because I think We're going to see some

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<v Speaker 4>really positive outcomes and steps in the right direction, which

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<v Speaker 4>is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jess, We could go on and on about

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<v Speaker 2>this literally forever, and I feel like we still will

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<v Speaker 2>because we're still two hundred years away from our gender

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<v Speaker 2>equality when it comes to pay. So we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of time, but we don't have much time

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, ladies, I'm hoping for some practical advice on prenows.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty years old and I've been in a relationship

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<v Speaker 5>for four years of my amazing fiance. I was lucky

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<v Speaker 5>enough to receive inheritance from my grandparents of one million dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>which I bought a house with six years ago. My

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<v Speaker 5>partner now lives with me and we currently own the

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<v Speaker 5>same amount. We both agreed that a prenup would be

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<v Speaker 5>a good idea to protect the inheritance, particularly as our

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<v Speaker 5>next step is to sell the house I own and

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<v Speaker 5>use that money to buy one together. We recently went

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<v Speaker 5>through the process of trying to get a prenup and

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<v Speaker 5>found it impossible. We both had lawyers, However, we had

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<v Speaker 5>to specify every possible situation in our future relationship, from

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<v Speaker 5>divorce to custody of children to what happens if one

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<v Speaker 5>of us passes away. We weren't able to write up

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<v Speaker 5>a simple agreement to carve out the one million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>and split everything else equally, How are we able to

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<v Speaker 5>make a prenup practically work for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, I'm interested to hear that it was a hard

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<v Speaker 2>process even though you both had lawyers. Yeah, that feels

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelming and maybe makes me feel like you didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the right team.

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<v Speaker 4>Potentially because you kind of think you bring in those

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<v Speaker 4>kind of people to take it off of your plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Really well, Yeah, so I can understand where they're coming from,

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<v Speaker 2>because historically I've worked with a lot of estate planning

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers who maybe aren't the fit for people, but have

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<v Speaker 2>been really technically gifted, so really good at writing prenups,

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<v Speaker 2>really good at doing the estate planning process, but actually

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<v Speaker 2>need to be spoon fed. And there's times where as

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<v Speaker 2>a finance when I was working as a financial advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually sit down with my clients and do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the prep so that it could then

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<v Speaker 2>go to an estate planning lawyer to write up the prenup. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's really important the areas you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we had to think about every possible outcome. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what a prenup is. It's thinking about every possible outcome

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<v Speaker 2>and being on the same page about that, so you

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<v Speaker 2>come to a reasonable conclusion when you're both in the

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<v Speaker 2>same headspace as to what an outcome will look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because God forbids something happened to you yesterday and you

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<v Speaker 2>did pass away, and your partner's making decisions about you

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<v Speaker 2>and your future children. How good is it that your

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<v Speaker 2>wishes and your thoughts are now documented in this document

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<v Speaker 2>of what you would have wanted to happen. So I

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<v Speaker 2>do think it's really important to take that into consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do have a sneaky little feeling that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you went along and just hoped for a prenup that said,

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<v Speaker 2>if we get divorced or if our relationship doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>I get my more one million dollars back, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just not how estate planning works because there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many factors to be taken into consideration. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you broke up a year from now and your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship hadn't changed yet, it could be quite cut and

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<v Speaker 2>dry and you probably would get your money back if

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<v Speaker 2>you had signed a prenup. However, if down the track,

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<v Speaker 2>you have dependence that's not going to be split equally,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get it all back because there are people

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<v Speaker 2>who are dependent on your care and your future husband's care.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really interesting, and I think that the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to organize a prenup is actually to sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with your partner and go through all of those segments. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens if one of us cheats on one another?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that change the outcome of this prenup? What happens

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<v Speaker 2>if we have an amicable divorce, what happens if one

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<v Speaker 2>of us passes away prematurely? Because in estate planning, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just what you currently have, but now we also

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<v Speaker 2>need to be thinking about life insurance and well what

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<v Speaker 2>happens if you're totally impermanent disabled, like who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>look after you? How do your decisions and your wishes

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<v Speaker 2>play into this. So it is actually quite a comprehensive

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<v Speaker 2>process to go through, so I'm not surprised it can

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit overwhelming. But one thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>say is your professionals that are helping you should be

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<v Speaker 2>on your team. So we've spoken to and if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard from Lucy from Head and Heart's Estate Planning before,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we recommend her. I used to work with her

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a professional financial advisor and she would

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<v Speaker 2>do my clients wills. She's done mine, so like I

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<v Speaker 2>do trust her, But she does work in a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a different way. So maybe you're looking for someone

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<v Speaker 2>with a different personality. Maybe you don't actually need two

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<v Speaker 2>separate lawyers to pull together a prenup when you are

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<v Speaker 2>actually on the same page. You just need a prenup

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down and go, Okay, one lawyer can put

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<v Speaker 2>this together. These are our wishes, let's sign it and

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<v Speaker 2>put it on file. So from my perspective, it really

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<v Speaker 2>just depends on what outcome you're looking for, and if

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<v Speaker 2>your partner's really agreeable on having the prenup, you're ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent of the way there. Because most people have

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<v Speaker 2>an issue where they're trying to sit down and go, Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>I want a prenup and Jess is like, that's offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you'd want that. So it can be

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<v Speaker 2>a fickle process. But if your partner's already on the

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<v Speaker 2>same page, to be honest, don't mean to be rude,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'd be looking for some new planners.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, one hundred percent. You want to be comfy

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<v Speaker 4>because you're talking about really hard things. But I actually

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<v Speaker 4>feel like that was very well said. I'm sorry, anything

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<v Speaker 4>to add to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, sorry, Yeah, I mean a state not anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>not anymore, she's not registered, but she still has opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's just about time that we skid

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<v Speaker 4>out aloud of here. But before we go, I know

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<v Speaker 4>that it's Christmas time. I know a lot of us

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<v Speaker 4>are feeling stressed because I'm seeing the posts and the

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<v Speaker 4>comments in the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just wanted to give your little heads up.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week we're going to be tackling all of the

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<v Speaker 4>social and financial anxieties that you might be feeling about

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas and kind of give you a little helping hand

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<v Speaker 4>to get through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Genius. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Al.

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