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Speaker 1: This is jam nation with Johnsy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: I've been following with the interest the Johnny Depp and

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Speaker 2: Amber Heard saga.

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Speaker 3: This is almost like the Ben Roberts Smith scenario that

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Speaker 3: all the dirty laundry is aired and neither side looks good.

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Speaker 3: Like Ben Robert Smith called that case because he felt

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Speaker 3: he'd been defamed. So all those terrible things we heard

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Speaker 3: about him was because he said, I want to go

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Speaker 3: to court and have these terrible head Having.

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Speaker 2: Said that about Ben Robert Smith, though he has a

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Speaker 2: right to defend himself, and if he didn't say anything,

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Speaker 2: there would be people doing the pieline.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I mean is this is the fallout

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Speaker 3: of you calling the defamation case. And in this scenario,

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Speaker 3: Amber Heard wrote an article where she didn't name him,

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Speaker 3: but she said, this is what it's like being in

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Speaker 3: a relationship with someone who's abusive. And he was saying, well,

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Speaker 3: I assume everyone assumes that that's me. You have defamed me,

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Speaker 3: and so he's called this case and there's a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of mess of who abused, who, who injured, who,

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Speaker 3: who's taking drugs?

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Speaker 2: No one looks good, No one looks good. But those

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Speaker 2: two kids they met on the Rum Diaries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd been married for a number of years to

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Speaker 3: Vanessa Parudi, a French actress and model, and they had

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Speaker 3: a very state from He lived below the radar, really

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Speaker 3: and it seemed that they had a very stable life.

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Speaker 3: They had two teenage children. They lived on an island

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Speaker 3: somewhere in the Bahamas, and he seemed to have his

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Speaker 3: act together. And then Aberhood's spectacular gorgeous meets her.

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Speaker 2: Well had forty eight forty eight and she was twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And there lies the problem. Do you think I'd say

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Speaker 2: this to any guy that.

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Speaker 1: Goes with a younger girl?

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Speaker 2: There lies the problem because at first it's all this

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Speaker 2: for a soAnd of sex and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is great and where's the bad part?

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Speaker 1: And then then Ny Johnny summed it up with this.

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Speaker 4: As a fifty song year old man was not allowed

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Speaker 4: to go to sleep when I wanted to, as opposed

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Speaker 4: to when she wanted to. Started out with little things

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Young people are full of energy.

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Speaker 3: He just wants to have this, You want to have

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Speaker 3: a sleep. He wants to be a cat.

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Speaker 2: And I'm fifty four and I'm thinking, so if I

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Speaker 2: hooked up we'd say a twenty five year old. You know,

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Speaker 2: they want to do stuff like go to Byron Bay

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Speaker 2: and watch blues fest. They want to go to music festivals.

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Speaker 2: They want to go and see a concert that starts

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Speaker 2: at ten o'clock at night.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: You want to go to sleep.

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Speaker 2: They want to go to those night clubs where the

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Speaker 2: music makes your head just cave in.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that.

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Speaker 3: But no one's making you do that.

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Speaker 1: You are you debating this with yourself.

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Speaker 3: You'd be up for the first part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: For about two.

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Speaker 3: Some noodles on in two minutes, we'll have them to eat.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, if you're a guy and you're thinking that

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Speaker 2: I might, you know, you might go with the younger girl.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. You're going to have to want to

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Speaker 1: have a sleep and going to want to sleep.

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Speaker 3: You're going to want to sleep, and chances are, and

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Speaker 3: this is what happens too and many men are happy

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Speaker 3: for this, but not always. If you're going with a

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Speaker 3: younger woman, chances are she'll want a baby.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, imagine that he goes you sleep, ah, because.

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Speaker 1: You're not the grandparent. You're the father. You've got to

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Speaker 1: look after that.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of fathers discover second time round that

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Speaker 3: they're more hands on. And the kids from the first

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Speaker 3: marriage who were forty going good on you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Where was this when I.

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Speaker 1: Was a kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've got three kids and I don't want

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Speaker 2: them to be resentful of that as well.

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Speaker 3: So okay, all right, twenty five year old women, leave

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Speaker 3: Joesie alone, leave me alone, leave him alone. Stop hanging

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Speaker 3: around him all the time.