WEBVTT - Meditation Coach Tom Cronin joins us!

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so sorry. Michelle the Witch of Love's Lane

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<v Speaker 1>and Moira Major how the Witch Bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of How to Witch Bitch. Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>the Witch of Moon's Lane, How are you good? Lots

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<v Speaker 2>of people are messaging us saying that we are being

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<v Speaker 2>their friend while they're cleaning.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that too.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are cleaning, get you jiggle on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy get that bleach out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a horrible cleaner.

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<v Speaker 4>Just put it in the corners. That's what I do

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<v Speaker 4>and then go, hey, I'm clean. I haven't got time

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<v Speaker 4>to be cleaning.

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<v Speaker 1>And tips. Black garbage bags are great because no one

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<v Speaker 1>can see what's in there.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay for Northern.

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<v Speaker 2>And Southern, which is okay, that's an episode that's coming up. Randall,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Everyone's still loving the episode where you hexta penis.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a sentence. I thought I'd say, maybe we.

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<v Speaker 3>Should do it testical next time. Could make them impotent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, that's terrible. That's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just want to say I love you podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from Sydney, which is nice. Butterfly Sydney. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a few episodes last night well cleaning and Cooking

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<v Speaker 2>and had a giggle when you mentioned a.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener said they listen when they're cleaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's just cleaning everywhere. We do love

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<v Speaker 2>all of your comments. We read all of your comments too,

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<v Speaker 2>so thank you very very much. Anyone who loves spells,

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<v Speaker 2>tarot silly behavior, make sure that you share with them

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<v Speaker 2>this particular podcast now today because I mentioned monkey Brain,

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<v Speaker 2>and also you and I run a very busy life.

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<v Speaker 1>With both mums.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got multiple jobs, we do multiple podcasts, everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk to Tom Cronan from Sydney, who

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<v Speaker 2>is a meditation coach. Oh, this is exciting, this is

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<v Speaker 2>very exciting. This guy's got so many followers as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He've been researching him all day and he's absolutely fascinating.

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<v Speaker 5>He really is.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had a really different career and then got

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<v Speaker 2>into meditation and now he teaches it around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So this will be really great and hopefully you can

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<v Speaker 2>give us some tips on how to just do some

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<v Speaker 2>simple meditations to get started, just.

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<v Speaker 3>To start and then you know, go from there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I always believe to you know, to take that

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<v Speaker 4>at your own paste and sort of get upset that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you can't fall into a certain level at a

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<v Speaker 4>certain time. Yeah, you just take it at your own pace,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, that's the last thing we're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do meditation because we're stressed out.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to stress out. We can't do meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it. Yeah, you're stressing out whilst doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Going at my doing it right?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like remember those group meditations used to do at

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<v Speaker 2>school and you all line your back and they'd be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>visualize a cloud, and I'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what kind of cloud? Is it gray? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it white? Or is it big?

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<v Speaker 2>I hang it, it looks like a fluffy dog. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure am I doing this right? Did you say cloud

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<v Speaker 2>or clown?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I not on the cloud?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Or am I?

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<v Speaker 1>What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Monkey Magic Pigsy, I love Funky Man.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, look, goodness, we've completely anyway, let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat with Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello. Tom, thank you so much for joining.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, Thanks for inviting me along, for doing this conversation today.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a massive amount of followers, You're a keynote speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>you are a meditation coach and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to how this started for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Was around about nineteen ninety five, I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>or ninety six where you found meditation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Absolutely, I was entering into what some people would

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<v Speaker 5>call a dark knight of the soul. And that was

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<v Speaker 5>after ten years of being a wolf of Wolf of

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<v Speaker 5>Wall Street style broker on a trading room floor. So

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<v Speaker 5>I started the same year as Jordan Belfort, the Wolf

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<v Speaker 5>of Wall Street in nineteen eighty seven, when I was

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<v Speaker 5>only young. I was nineteen, and I just got swept

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<v Speaker 5>along by the current of what life was like on

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<v Speaker 5>a trading room floor back in the late eighties early nineties,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it was very fast, very hectic, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of partying, drinking lard late nights, and this culminated eventually

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<v Speaker 5>as I started sort of getting wear and tear on

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<v Speaker 5>my nervous system, my mind and my body. And then

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<v Speaker 5>this kind of continued to culminate with the I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>the poor lifestyle choices, and eventually in ninety ninety six

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<v Speaker 5>I went into a really dark place, sort of suicide

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<v Speaker 5>ideation and really deep depression and paic attacks and anxiety,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was sent to psychiatrists and doctors and put

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<v Speaker 5>on medication. But I came across meditation at that time,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was a really pivotal moment in my life,

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<v Speaker 5>where not just any meditation, because I tried a few techniques,

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<v Speaker 5>but when I found this particular style was a deep

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<v Speaker 5>transcending style of meditation otherwise known as Vedic meditation, that

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<v Speaker 5>I really saw significant changes in my life. And that

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<v Speaker 5>was a big turning point in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, Absolutely, that energy must have been exhausting leading up

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<v Speaker 2>to that, and then you know the meditation being the

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<v Speaker 2>drug almost to help you through that. Different types of

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<v Speaker 2>meditation as well. I know you mentioned that, how is

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<v Speaker 2>this one different?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is what we call transcending. So I put

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<v Speaker 5>meditation into kind of four main categories. So we've got

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<v Speaker 5>ones where we're concentrating, and we're focusing on trying to

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<v Speaker 5>empty the mind of thoughts or trying to focus on

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<v Speaker 5>the breath or zero the attention into one single point,

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<v Speaker 5>which is very, very difficult, particularly in our world today

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<v Speaker 5>with the amount of information flow, and it's something that's

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<v Speaker 5>actually quite unpleasant. It's not very enjoyable to do because

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<v Speaker 5>you're using a lot of resistance and force. Then we've

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<v Speaker 5>got things like visualizations what I call contemplation meditation. So

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<v Speaker 5>these ones we're thinking, but we're thinking about Chuckra's realigning

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<v Speaker 5>or gratitude or asing some future outcome. This one is

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<v Speaker 5>surface level because we're still thinking and we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>the world around us and how we can make our

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<v Speaker 5>world better because then we want to feel good. Nothing

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<v Speaker 5>wrong with that. I still do them, but it's just

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<v Speaker 5>not a deep meditation. Then we've got chanting meditations where

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<v Speaker 5>we might be doing some chanting after yoga, where we're

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<v Speaker 5>saying something out loud. Again, we're not going that deep,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's still a beautiful practice, but just not a

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<v Speaker 5>deep meditation. And then I found these deep meditations where

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<v Speaker 5>we use a particular sound or resonance called mantras, and

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<v Speaker 5>that takes the mind beyond. We transcend beyond the idea

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<v Speaker 5>of your own existence and your own identity. We transcend thoughts, transcend, emotions,

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<v Speaker 5>transcend even the limit of staying in occupying this physical

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<v Speaker 5>apparatus called our body, and we go into what we

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<v Speaker 5>call the void or an unbounded spaciousness, which is really

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<v Speaker 5>deeply RESTful and deeply blessful.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Just thinking Michelle as a psychic, and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>have things coming into your mind, and your mind is

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<v Speaker 2>very unique. Having been a friend of yours for many years,

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<v Speaker 2>places you never know what you're going to get, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>do you can you meditate or can you do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to turn off your psychic switch and you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually chill.

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<v Speaker 4>I say yes, and I say no, okay that because

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like I can't be hypnotized either, which

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<v Speaker 4>I found quite I wanted to be hypnotized. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>hypnotized three or four times for smoking. Couldn't be hypnotized

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<v Speaker 4>to smoke. It was only because I promised my daughter

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<v Speaker 4>that i'd give up on her twelfth birthday that I

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<v Speaker 4>actually Then she came out and said, hey, you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to realize how powerful the mind is. Then, because I

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<v Speaker 4>was just swept. Yeah, I have to do it for her,

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<v Speaker 4>so I haven't done it. But I can meditate to

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<v Speaker 4>a certain point and then I find that I fall asleep,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just go into that type of thing. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I find it quite difficult. I think they call it

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<v Speaker 4>the monkey mind. I prefer just to just let all

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<v Speaker 4>my thoughts go with without doing anything. Like you know

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<v Speaker 4>how they do the guided meditations. I just can't do

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<v Speaker 4>guided meditations. I can do the meditations where I just

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<v Speaker 4>lay on the earth and just let everything go and

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<v Speaker 4>I just imagine I'm part of the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my type of meditation.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just feel the sun coming through here and

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<v Speaker 4>I just imagine my Sharkra's being online.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's kind of as far as I can go

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<v Speaker 3>with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But in saying that I do astro travel, now,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how I do that. I blocked it

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<v Speaker 4>for a long long time. But that's just something that

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<v Speaker 4>I can do.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, the all beautiful meditations and all meditations are going

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<v Speaker 5>to play some role of some sort to make our

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<v Speaker 5>lives better. One thing we noticed with most meditation is

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<v Speaker 5>there's still an eye high astral travel. I do this meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel this when I'm meditating, So in transcendence, the

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<v Speaker 5>one thing where going beyond is the eye. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>more eye, there's no more duality. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 5>accessible pathway to discover what is ultimately fundamental truth that

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<v Speaker 5>there's this reality at atle Field beyond the world of

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<v Speaker 5>form and phenomenon and duality. That's the relationship ther eyes

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<v Speaker 5>having with the world around it. I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>And how would be the best sort of thing, quick

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<v Speaker 4>way that you would suggest people to do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, there's really not many pathways that will

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<v Speaker 5>get us into such a profound relinquishing of the identity.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe there are certain states that I've certainly experienced

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<v Speaker 5>at times myself using breath work. I've also had the

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<v Speaker 5>experience of plant medicine, and of course I meditate every

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<v Speaker 5>day and have this experience. I just meditated literally ten

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<v Speaker 5>minutes ago deep in that space as well. So my

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<v Speaker 5>apologies about that, and so the best and my successful

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<v Speaker 5>ways using this vading meditation practice, because I can be

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<v Speaker 5>on a trading room floor, go to the boardroom, drop

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<v Speaker 5>into transcendence, and he come out of the trading room floor,

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<v Speaker 5>go back on out of the boardroom, and go back

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<v Speaker 5>onto the trading roo floor. But I couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>If I did plan medicine breath work, you might be

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<v Speaker 5>able to do that, but you'd need a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of time to integrate the experience. But there's something about

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<v Speaker 5>that dear excitement of the mind and the nervous system,

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<v Speaker 5>because breath work is still quite activating, yeah, an activation process,

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<v Speaker 5>whereas this meditation's a deer activating. We're going into the quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're still doing the broker stuff as well, it seems.

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<v Speaker 5>For sixteen more years after yeah, wow, sixteen years just

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<v Speaker 5>taking the drugs its meditating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's amazing how he went out and

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<v Speaker 2>figured out what was happening out in the world and

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<v Speaker 2>came back in and went, oh, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what the word?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just I find it amazing that you or combining

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<v Speaker 2>those two, just knowing the intensity of that. So now

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<v Speaker 2>to meditate, that's kind of your your so to slip

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<v Speaker 2>out and slip back in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems fascinating because I can just there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably a lot of practice on his part. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't think that if you're just new

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<v Speaker 4>to it you could do that. I think it does

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<v Speaker 4>take practice to do that, to get out of the

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<v Speaker 4>first stages of the monkey mind and things like you

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, most students will drop into those quiet states within

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<v Speaker 5>the first couple of days of me training them. So

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<v Speaker 5>most students will experience some degree of transcendence in that

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<v Speaker 5>first few sessions. What's so powerful about using this technique

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<v Speaker 5>is that it's not about running away from the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh now I'm meditating, so I can't go into an

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<v Speaker 5>intense environment. In actual fact, we find cells relishing the

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to go into those intense environments because we start

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<v Speaker 5>to cultivate a state of equanimity. In Sanskrit, it's called

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<v Speaker 5>ta ticture, which means to be unruffled by circumstances in life.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a really nice way to sort of put this

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<v Speaker 5>to a test to reach that level of sovereignty where

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<v Speaker 5>my state is owned by me. I've cultivated a state

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<v Speaker 5>of inner peace, and the world's fluctuations, the world turbulence

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<v Speaker 5>around me isn't having this ruffled effect on my state,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it means that we're actually more capable. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is something why I work with a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>corporations now. Problem in the staff reduce that stress response,

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<v Speaker 5>reduce that alastatic load so they can actually reach peak performance.

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<v Speaker 3>So that would help. That would be something that would

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<v Speaker 3>be good for PMS.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be Now we keep getting a women coming in,

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<v Speaker 4>we do what's the spells for this? And we do

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<v Speaker 4>all that type of thing, and I always say meditation, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this is probably a better form of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And as well, the mantras something that I know that

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<v Speaker 2>I used, and particularly with anxiety and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it wrong to ask how do we do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it just sounds fascinating, It sounds like everyone needs it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do we start?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Usually there's a process where we don't just give

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<v Speaker 5>you the meditation, off you go, because it really underpins

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<v Speaker 5>the practice itself is having a lot of knowledge. So

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<v Speaker 5>the course is usually delivered over four ninety minute sessions,

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<v Speaker 5>either on zoom or in person, and some teachers don't

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<v Speaker 5>even teach on zoom. I teach on zoom and in

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<v Speaker 5>person to give people around the world access to this

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful five thousand year old practice. But ultimately what happens

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<v Speaker 5>is the student will get a particular mantra or sound

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<v Speaker 5>relevant to their age. When they're born and when they're

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<v Speaker 5>learning the techniques, that will be how they are where

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<v Speaker 5>they get I guess the receive the mantra, and then

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<v Speaker 5>there will be a lot of knowledge over those four

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<v Speaker 5>ninety minute sessions to sort of underpin and support their practice,

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<v Speaker 5>give them a deeper understanding about how to optimize their meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>how to understand why they're going to get certain releases

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<v Speaker 5>out of their body as a result of the meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>which will lead to a lot of thoughts or emotions

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<v Speaker 5>arising or physiological sensations arising during the meditation. So there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of knowledge that needs to come with the practice.

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<v Speaker 5>So you wouldn't just say here's something you can go

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<v Speaker 5>and do, off you go, see you later. It's really

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<v Speaker 5>about supporting the student with not just the course itself,

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<v Speaker 5>but ongoing supports. All my students get ongoing weekly support

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<v Speaker 5>if they want it on a zoom call.

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<v Speaker 4>And so would meditation also be a bit like the

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<v Speaker 4>reiki where it's sort of like because you're sort of

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<v Speaker 4>going through in your sort of healing the body without

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's also something an added bonus and why.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably need to talk to them afterwards because things

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<v Speaker 4>are coming up that were maybe restricted or blocked within

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<v Speaker 4>the body.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, it's really good that you pointed that out. Because

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<v Speaker 5>the body is like a warehouse. It has all the

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<v Speaker 5>stresses in it, and these are what we call in

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<v Speaker 5>Sanskrit samscaras. These stresses just to continually compound and accumulate,

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<v Speaker 5>and they can be lifetime stresses that we've experienced from

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<v Speaker 5>the time we came out of the womb, so also

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<v Speaker 5>inherited stresses that have come through from our ancestry, our

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<v Speaker 5>parents and grad parents, and so our body is holding

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<v Speaker 5>them in the physiology. And what happens is when we

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<v Speaker 5>go into these dear excited states that occur in meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly deep meditations. Body's got a natural inclination and tendency

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<v Speaker 5>to heal and optimize. So if it identifies and finds

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<v Speaker 5>these stresses in the body, it will start to release

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<v Speaker 5>them and clear them out of the system. And that

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<v Speaker 5>releasing is usually showing up in some sort of sensations

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<v Speaker 5>and it could be tears, it can be jolts, twitches, spasms,

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<v Speaker 5>all sorts of physiological expressions that come with their releasing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it different for men and for women? Meditation, any

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<v Speaker 2>form of meditation.

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<v Speaker 5>Not that I've been aware of. And I've been using

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<v Speaker 5>this for thirty years and pitching it for about fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>and one thing, we've found that there's no difference between

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<v Speaker 5>men and women as far as their experience of the meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>whether they're going deeper or not. But yeah, I haven't

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<v Speaker 5>been able to notice any differences with that.

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<v Speaker 4>So is there something that you could say maybe for

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<v Speaker 4>someone that's anxious and maybe about to have an anxiety

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<v Speaker 4>attack or something like that, and they can't sort of

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<v Speaker 4>switch in in or do any meditation becaus I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>done it until they come to you. Is there any

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<v Speaker 4>sort of mantra or little chant that you you say

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<v Speaker 4>to yourself at least?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Look, there's definitely some things people can do if

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<v Speaker 5>they're feeling overwhelmed or even just on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 5>by listening to this. And the first thing, which is

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<v Speaker 5>really simple, is to just bring the mind into center.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll give everyone just a simple walk away meditation

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<v Speaker 5>that they can use. And this is if you're just

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<v Speaker 5>having a hectic day, just pull over on the side

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<v Speaker 5>of the road into a quiet street. Blood you can't

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<v Speaker 5>do this practice, or you can just you know, find

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<v Speaker 5>yourself on a park bench or on your lounge rim

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<v Speaker 5>at home. But really, the first thing we do is

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<v Speaker 5>we close our eyes, and that reduces the stimulation of

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<v Speaker 5>the sensors. Ideal, if you've got noise canceling headphones or

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere quiet, it reduces noise stimulations. So we're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>reduce the stimulation for all five senses. And then we

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<v Speaker 5>start to bring our attention to the breath moving through

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<v Speaker 5>the nostrils. And what we'll find it as the breath

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<v Speaker 5>moves in and out of the nostrils, it's this gentle,

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<v Speaker 5>effortless ebb and flow. Don't force it, don't try. Your

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<v Speaker 5>body knows what to do. It knows how to breathe

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<v Speaker 5>trust the body. And then what you'll find is it

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<v Speaker 5>moves in and out of the nostrils. You're going to

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<v Speaker 5>bring all your attention to the cool skin around the

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<v Speaker 5>rim of the nostril. And what we're going to do

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<v Speaker 5>here is by doing this, is just going to focus

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<v Speaker 5>on that one single point of the air brushing the

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<v Speaker 5>moisture inside the nostril, slightly cooling the skin, and then

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to just keep on that single point. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>your mind will not enjoy this, so it will move away,

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<v Speaker 5>it will drop away from that single post place and

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<v Speaker 5>will go to other locations. But we're going to use

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of force here, and by using a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of muscle flexing and keeping that mind on that

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<v Speaker 5>single point, the whole nervous system, the mind and the

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<v Speaker 5>physiology is going to start to de excite and calm

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<v Speaker 5>down and become more orderly and cohesive. And that's really

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<v Speaker 5>what we want in the body, a cohesive body. Wow, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 5>and you could do that for five minutes, five ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Of How did it feel good?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just straight at my nose, not look straight

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<v Speaker 2>at you. You're not looking at the top of your nose.

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<v Speaker 2>You're feeling it, feeling we feel to you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>clown mate?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Sorry? Tom, I'm gotta do you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like you to try, I would like you

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<v Speaker 1>to try.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there, you got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>When it is a good time to do meditation, at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the day or the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>day already time I recommend Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>A good question. I generally recommend one in the morning,

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<v Speaker 5>when when we wake up or after we've done sort

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<v Speaker 5>of some sort of exercise in your morning routine, and

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<v Speaker 5>then usually as we start fading throughout the day. So

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<v Speaker 5>I just had my second meditation just about forty minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's when we're sort of reaching that sort of

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a fade time. So anytime in

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<v Speaker 5>the afternoon, is it, or before dinner time, or you

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<v Speaker 5>could do it before better thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's usually yeah, exactly the actual coffee. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside mate, I'm working radio. It doesn't mean I'm kidding exactly. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's been absolutely fascinating. I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at this, and also I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so important for mental health and for stress, anxiety, everything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. To just like you said that that phrase

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<v Speaker 2>walk away. I liked that phrase being everything comes at

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<v Speaker 2>you so much that if you just stop for two

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<v Speaker 2>seconds and just let it settle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so important as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think you know, when we think about dada

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<v Speaker 5>of physical health, part of physical health, would you do

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<v Speaker 5>involve some sort of repetition, So it's either lifting a

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<v Speaker 5>dumbbell repetitively, or walking repetitively, swimming repetitively, and the same

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<v Speaker 5>thing would apply for mental health. If we wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>have very good mental health, we would do something like

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<v Speaker 5>the repetition of the mantra, or the rep petition of

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<v Speaker 5>focusing on the breath. This repetition on a single thing

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be so healthy for the mind because

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<v Speaker 5>our mind is very scattered now in our world emails

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<v Speaker 5>and doing you scrolling through feeds and constantly moving from

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<v Speaker 5>thing to thing, like you said, the monkey mind. And

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<v Speaker 5>so for really good mental health, I would really encourage

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<v Speaker 5>people to think about a daily process of closing their eyes,

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<v Speaker 5>sitting still somewhere and doing some form of repetition for

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<v Speaker 5>the mind, and that would be the mantra. Learning with

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<v Speaker 5>a really good teacher, I know a guy, you need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us where to find you find.

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<v Speaker 1>You, do I know a.

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<v Speaker 5>Or just doing your own breath that I've just given

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<v Speaker 5>everyone for five or ten minutes. It's going to make

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<v Speaker 5>a difference. If you just did that alone for five

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<v Speaker 5>to ten minutes, it won't be comfortable, it won't be

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<v Speaker 5>busy because the mind wants to look for all this

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<v Speaker 5>entertaining things. But do something that's good for your mind,

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<v Speaker 5>not what your mind wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And kids as well, This would be great for kids,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly learning at a young age to manage because I

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<v Speaker 2>know how full on the kids' minds are. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, you know, on TikTok on things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's so quick, they never stop. It's every YouTube dah

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<v Speaker 2>da dah dah. And this would be something that would

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<v Speaker 2>be huge for them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're seeing extremely dire scenarios unfolding for the youth

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<v Speaker 5>of the world. Now. The you know, kids these days

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<v Speaker 5>at the ages of three and four given iPads an

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<v Speaker 5>iPhones keep them quiet. And what we're really underestimating is

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<v Speaker 5>these children's brains are still developing all the way up

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<v Speaker 5>until the age of twenty four to twenty five, people

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<v Speaker 5>haven't fully formed, and to be giving them that amount

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<v Speaker 5>of information flow, particularly you know, twelve to eighteen year

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<v Speaker 5>olds a really critical stay. The development it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>already is having huge ramifications. And unfortunately, our approach to

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with this, for most people are not to completely

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<v Speaker 5>discourage the idea of this. But I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a great singular pathway to take is just medicate someone, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>when we can really just look at really healthy alternatives,

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<v Speaker 5>which is why don't we just give children at least

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<v Speaker 5>less technology and more practice with meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. All right, Tom, how do people find you?

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram is a great place. I love connecting with people,

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<v Speaker 5>so I answer all my message on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were very surprised that you actually replied to Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>We were very impressed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a beautiful, king wonderful community. And I like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, connecting with the community. I think it's an

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<v Speaker 5>important part of the work that we do and that

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<v Speaker 5>level of it authenticity and integrity. So my Instagram is

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Cronin and my website is Tom cronan dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So very easy, wonderful, Tom, thank you so much. That

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<v Speaker 1>was really great my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for sharing space and inviting me for an important

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<v Speaker 5>conversation like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly with the kids as well. I think that's so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Is amazing, all the best, Tom, Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks dn oh likewise, futuo and thanks for listening. Everyone

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great. I'm going to try that and you

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<v Speaker 1>said you're going to try it tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see how we go. Remember the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>your nose to Michelle on the outside. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>check the stars for the week.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so aries this week nudges you to slow down

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<v Speaker 4>just enough to notice what's really mattering in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>You're on full momentum, but a thoughtful pause midweek will

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<v Speaker 4>help you make smarter ideas. So trust your intuition. Taurus,

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<v Speaker 4>Comfort meets opportunity. You may feel pulled between staying in

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<v Speaker 4>your safe zone and trying something new.

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<v Speaker 3>Lean slightly towards the unfamiliar.

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<v Speaker 4>It could bring a pleasant surprise, especially in your relationships. Gemini,

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<v Speaker 4>your mind is buzzing with ideas, but not all of

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<v Speaker 4>them need action right now. Prioritize what really excites you

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment. A conversation later in the week will

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<v Speaker 4>open doors that have felt shut before. Cancer emotions run

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<v Speaker 4>a little deeper this week, but there's that's not a

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<v Speaker 4>bad thing. In fact, use this as seidivity guide that

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<v Speaker 4>can actually help you get weight off your shoulders. Someone

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<v Speaker 4>close may need your support, so you may want to

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<v Speaker 4>realize and spend a little bit of time with them. Leo,

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<v Speaker 4>you're stepping into the spotlight moment, whether you've planned it

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<v Speaker 4>or not. Confidence comes naturally now, and so humility will

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<v Speaker 4>be on your side. A creative spark will turn into

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<v Speaker 4>something bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Urgo.

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<v Speaker 4>Details matter more than usual this week, and you're in

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<v Speaker 4>the perfect person to handle them. Just don't get stuck

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<v Speaker 4>in overthinking. Progress beats perfection any day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Libra.

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<v Speaker 4>Balance is your theme this week, but you may feel

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<v Speaker 4>slightly off at first.

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<v Speaker 3>A shift in priorities helps you realign. By the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>things are a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot more smooth for you, and you are getting more

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<v Speaker 4>connections and you feel more at peace with yourself. Scorpio,

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<v Speaker 4>you're in a powerful position to let go of something

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<v Speaker 4>that's been weighing on your shoulders. Whether it's an old

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<v Speaker 4>habit or just a situation, time to release it. Expect

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<v Speaker 4>a renewed vigor and a new world of control afterwards,

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<v Speaker 4>or feeling control afterwards. Sagittarius, adventure calls, even if it's in.

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<v Speaker 3>A small way.

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<v Speaker 4>Try to break a routine, Try something new, be spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 4>A new perspective will lead the charge this week for

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<v Speaker 4>future planning. Capricorn, responsibility is front and center, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>more than capable than making good decisions. The key this

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<v Speaker 4>week is not taking too much on Delegation could be

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<v Speaker 4>a key to you feeling peaceful this week as well. Aquarius,

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<v Speaker 4>your originality will shine through and people are paying attention

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<v Speaker 4>and they're drawn to you, So share ideas, even if

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<v Speaker 4>they're unconventional. Collaborations will be great this week and turn

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<v Speaker 4>into something special. Pisces, your intuition is especially strong this week,

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<v Speaker 4>as it is in all other weeks. But remember quiet moments,

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<v Speaker 4>just to have some clarity, do not rush, take time,

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<v Speaker 4>lay luck, Brocolo, and they are your stars this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much, Michelle, and for you listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us. I hope that this episode in particular will

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<v Speaker 2>probably help with a number of different people, which is great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more pull over, like you said, yeah, angry,

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to rate the podcast. Next week, we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing You're going to be doing a

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<v Speaker 2>reading for one of our new friends to the podcast, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been doing a little bit of spell work as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so you up for that for a bit of a reading.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that sounds like fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'll go and investigate some of the books

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<v Speaker 4>that I've liked through the years.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Really good ones that have come out too, and I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I sell them in my shop and both two

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<v Speaker 4>stores and Carra, So I'll grab some books that I

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<v Speaker 4>actually like from there and bring them in.

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<v Speaker 1>And you actually horn how they're recently doing a signing

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<v Speaker 1>of her book.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she came in and she does with a coven

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<v Speaker 4>where the witches gather and things like that, which is

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<v Speaker 4>really good. So I can have a look. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think definitely spell books things like that that can get

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<v Speaker 4>them different types of variances, because which is all do

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<v Speaker 4>it very differently. You know, you have your basic sort

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<v Speaker 4>of what we did. I mean, go back to episode one,

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<v Speaker 4>the basics of what you can have for your alter.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think, you know, maybe we need to really

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<v Speaker 3>look at that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Alters, alters and things like that. Yeah, we could do that.

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<v Speaker 5>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>We've just one some show planning on the show, which

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<v Speaker 2>is great. Look after yourself and and I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great week, Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You Di Darling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Good work.

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