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Speaker 1: Now let's head on down to Alice Springs.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday we spoke about some terrible vision that had

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Speaker 2: come out yet again out of Alice Springs. We shared

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Speaker 2: that or I shared it yesterday and plenty of you

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Speaker 2: jumped online and took a look at it. It showed

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Speaker 2: a group of youths well, I don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: other word for it than running a mark in the

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Speaker 2: city in Alice. Now joining me on the line to

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Speaker 2: talk more about this is the Member for Braitling, Joshua Burgoyne.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Katie, and good morning to you listeners.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: So you are also the shadow Minister for Youth. Can

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Speaker 2: you talk us through really what happened over the weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, Katie. Obviously over the weekend we've seen a

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Speaker 3: spike in crime, an increase in crime. But unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 3: these are all too common events that happened in our

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Speaker 3: town and it really is just a continuation of what

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Speaker 3: we've seen. Today marks one hundred days since you've going

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Speaker 3: the government have been re elected, and obviously there were

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Speaker 3: the four years before that, and in Alice Springs we

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Speaker 3: continue to see serious and violent crime on our streets

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Speaker 3: at night and it's simply not acceptable and we want

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Speaker 3: to see a change and we're willing to work with

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Speaker 3: the current government to make that happen. I do take

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Speaker 3: note that there was the twenty four to seven new

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Speaker 3: center which was opened, and we can't call it twenty

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Speaker 3: four to seven yet because it's only open select days.

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Speaker 3: And I think, Katie, it's really important just to say

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Speaker 3: the government, now, why are we waiting until the seventeenth

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Speaker 3: of December to make that twenty four to seven. Let's

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Speaker 3: get the staff in there. Let's let's get this operation

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Speaker 3: or twenty four to seven from this weekend, because unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: down here in our springs, we are paying the price

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Speaker 3: for a lack of like a commitment and a lack

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Speaker 3: of resources down here.

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Speaker 2: Luke, sorry, not Joshua, josh so apologize ad Luke on

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Speaker 2: before josh I know that yesterday you had seen that realistically,

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Speaker 2: this is having a massive impact when you talk about tourism,

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Speaker 2: when you talk about all sorts of things in Alice.

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Speaker 2: I just want to read you out a message that

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Speaker 2: we received just a couple of minutes ago, and it says, hi, Katie,

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Speaker 2: as traveler's been in Darwin for three months and now

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Speaker 2: moving on. We've spent lots of money here and enjoyed

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Speaker 2: our stay. We're heading south, but we'll be bypassing Alice

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Speaker 2: Springs just based on the crime and vandalism in that area. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: there's no point stopping somewhere in a town that you

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Speaker 2: take the risk of vandalism to your property, or you

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Speaker 2: take the risk of young of youth gangs, which is

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Speaker 2: all over the newspaper and social media of late. Why

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Speaker 2: would you put yourself in that risk? The local members right,

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Speaker 2: there will be plenty of travelers. It won't be stopping,

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Speaker 2: or it will be stopping. They will no longer stop

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Speaker 2: there in Alice Springs, just based on that from.

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Speaker 1: Who they've spoken to.

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Speaker 2: You know, I guess that just gives you one person

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Speaker 2: who said that they're going to be bypassing Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: based on the issues there. Josh, you know, I guess

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Speaker 2: this morning, even my producer and I would talk off air,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we sort of said to each other,

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Speaker 2: is it worse than what it's been in years gone by?

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Speaker 1: I know that in Alice I've.

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Speaker 2: Had bad years before, but mate, from what you're telling me,

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Speaker 2: it's the worst you've seen it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, Katie, And I mean, I've grown up in

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Speaker 3: this town. I was born here, and it pains me

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Speaker 3: to say that these sorts of things are happening in

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Speaker 3: get told to stop talking the town down. But what

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Speaker 3: I am trying to implore people and tell people is

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Speaker 3: that it's not about talking the town down. It's about

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Speaker 3: acknowledging the problems that we have here and then trying

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Speaker 3: to work together to fix them. And that's what's so important.

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Speaker 3: No one wants to hear of people avoiding our beautiful

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Speaker 3: to hear that happening. So I'm trying to work with

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Speaker 3: the government. We believe from our perspective down here, it's

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Speaker 3: very clear what's happened with the bail laws with labor

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Speaker 3: we need to bring back breach of bail as an offense.

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Speaker 3: And I even read in the Anti Independent the other

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Speaker 3: a review into that. Well, the President yep, that we

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Speaker 3: do review those things. Yeah, yeah, it's just what's currently

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Speaker 3: the policy structures that are in place at the moment

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Speaker 2: I can so realistically, Josh, if you were to make

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Speaker 2: a couple of changes right now, they are the things

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Speaker 2: that you reckon.

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Speaker 1: The government needs to change.

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Speaker 2: They need they need to review those bail laws, those

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Speaker 2: youth bail laws, and they also need to straight away

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Speaker 2: change that Youth drop in Center to twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven immediately.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Katie. And it's two things that I believe can

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Speaker 3: be done. Legislative changes and obviously with the twenty four

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Speaker 3: to provide that at slightly early date than what they planned.

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Speaker 3: And it's not going to fix all the issues. No

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Speaker 3: one's saying that it will fix all the issues overnight.

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Speaker 3: But we unfortunately constantly seeing an escalation in crime down here,

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Speaker 3: and it was terrible. You know, when we're literally seeing

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Speaker 3: then again over the weekend, out the front of our

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Speaker 3: brawl that breaks out, and it was terrible to see

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Speaker 3: were you and then someone went up and gave him

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Speaker 3: a high five. I mean that really upset me, like

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Speaker 3: it was disgusting. It was disgusting to see, you know,

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Speaker 3: people encouraging one another to take part in these violent

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Speaker 3: police are doing the absolute best they can. I constantly

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Speaker 3: can tell when they're strikeforce viper because they're actually in

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Speaker 3: playing clothes. Now, I do believe that they are working

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Speaker 3: exceptionally hard, but we need to back them up with

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Speaker 3: the lords with these dail laws so the youth that

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Speaker 3: around what we call here, you know, in this revolving door.

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Speaker 2: Well, I really appreciate your time this morning, Josh. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a tough situation in Alice Springs at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Please keep in contact with us you know, let us

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Speaker 2: know what's going on. I just think it's so incredibly

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Speaker 2: important that we as territorians, you know, don't forget about

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Speaker 2: places like Alice Springs just because we don't live there.

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Speaker 2: This is a whole of the Northern Territory issue.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, and I appreciate your highlighting the issues

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Speaker 3: that we face down here. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate, we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: That is, of course, the Shadow Minister for Youth as

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Speaker 2: well as Member for Braitling, Joshua Burgoyne,