1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the AO rap. You're with the late crew. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm Brett Thomas and I'm. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: John Huvanas filling in for Lexi Mitchell. Here's your quick 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: hit from day fourteen. The Silent Assassin Elena rebiken Our 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: wins an epic women's final. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: AO Radios Matt Edwards will recap the doubles finals and 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: preview the men's final to come, and we're joined by 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Simon Ray, Tennis Australia Head of Game Analysis forty thirty. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: Rebecca serves out wide honais and it's a moment of 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: sweet revenge for Elena Rebeccaa. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 4: She is the Australian Open champion. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, we had the best men's matches of the tournament yesterday. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: In the semis today I think it was the best 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: of the women's We saved it for last the women's final, 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Elena Rebarkaner coming from three lovedown in the third set 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: to defeat Arena Sablenka in two hours and eighteen minutes. 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Simon Ray was at easily the best women's match of 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the tournament. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: Do you think, wow? It was fantastic. It was electric 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 5: ball striking, It was a supreme display of aggression from 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: both women, and really it was a race to get 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 5: the first striking. We saw some huge serving, we saw 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: some aggressive returning, particularly on second serve, and ultimately it 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: was Rebikner that established the momentum from three love down 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: in the third set having conceded five straight games, and 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: she got hot at the right time and that carried 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 5: out a victory. 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 6: Thank you everyone who made this tournament possible, Tennis Australia, 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: Craig of course for making us feel so well here 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 6: and it's a really happy Slam and I always enjoy 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 6: coming here and playing in front of you guys, and 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 6: of course I would like to say thank you too 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 6: my team. Without you, it wouldn't be possible. Really, we 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 6: had a lot of things going on and I'm really 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 6: glad that we're achieved this result, and thank you to 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 6: all of you, and yeah, hopefully we can keep on 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 6: going strong this year. 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: How on earth did she turn things around when she 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: was in such a big hole and it seemed like 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Sabolenka had all the energy. In fact, her coach, Elena 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Barkner's coach was saying, we need more energy from you, 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: and she seemed to respond in her way. Obviously, not 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: as loud as Saballenka, but did it with her game, 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah she did, and it was ultimately too many weapons 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: from the back of the court, and it was a 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: little bit of a clouded emotional performance from Arena Sablinka 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: when we think back to the start of the match, 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: just like the absolute clarity and conviction that we've seen 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: from her when she's been at her best through the 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: fortnight and then again deep in that third set. And 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: that's easy to do when rebeccn is coming out or 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Biken is coming at you with those weapons on fourhand 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: and back handside, and the serv speed that we saw 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: tonight up towards one hundred and ninety sometimes pushing two 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: hundred kilometers an hour on first serve, so starved of time, 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Arena Sabalanka and forced out of her comfort zone and 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit of panic and some of those 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: moments from Sabolenka. 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: We've been waiting all week two for just a brilliant 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: three setter in the women's draw. We'd only seen one, 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: I think it was back in the fourth round between 62 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: Coco Goff and Caroline and Muka Mukava. But here we 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: are in the women's championship match, and Simon, it really 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: was a story of three chapters, three very distinctive chapters. 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: Brett touched on it before rebike and has coach Stefano 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Vukov at the end of that first set, had a 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: lot to say to his player who was leading by 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: a set to love. 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: Now you felt like it was a real factor in 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: the match, didn't you. So Sabolenka takes the bathroom break 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 5: at the conclusion of the first set, and it was 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 5: a lengthy, extended conversation between Rebikener and the coaching team, 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: and you just wondered, and it was even spoken about 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: on commentary. You just wondered, was that too much information? 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: And that's an answer that it's an unanswerable question. In 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: some ways we'll never know. 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: But they certainly got some things right in terms of 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the way to unsettle Sabolenka. 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: They definitely did. And we saw Saballenka struggle early with 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: the lift and jump off the court, particularly of the 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 5: rebuke and a second serve in the first set. Then 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 5: she settled in the second set, Sabalanka and it was 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: more back to what we would have expected going in 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: got aggressive with her return position again, came and inside 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: the baseline and was determined to take that second serve 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: on the rise. But then it was Rebekner in the 87 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 5: third set when it mattered most found her best tennis 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: from three love down when she had no other choice. 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 5: So she's a deserving victor for sure. 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: We saw late in her semi final winner for Jess 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: Pegoula that Jess Pagola started getting really aggressive when she 92 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: saw second serves, and Sablenca especially did that in the 93 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: second set, then at the start of the third, So 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: what did Rebarkner change to make sure that she wasn't 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: going to be wiped off the court if she missed 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: her first serves. 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: Well, Sabolenka was still able to make inroads into the 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: second serve of Elena Rebikener in that final set. Reviken 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 5: that just one thirty eight percent of her second serve points, 100 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: but basically was untouchable when she did make the first serve, 101 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 5: so she didn't have an absolutely outstanding serving day from 102 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: the perspective of first serves in play. Elena Rebiken it 103 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: made fifty six percent of first serves in play, but 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: when she did make that first serve, particularly in the 105 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: final set, up over eighty percent of first serve points one, 106 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: whereas Arena Sabalinka's down in the mid fifties. So that's 107 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: the gap in the match. Untouchable on first serve Rebikener 108 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 5: and Sablenka much more gettable when she was able to 109 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 5: put a first serve in play. 110 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: I was watching the emotional side of things as well, 111 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: and Sablenka always won to kind of wear her emotion 112 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: on her face, and you were writing every point with her. 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: She looked really nervous after she was broken in that 114 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: opening service game. But then when Rebikener had a sort 115 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: of a period of drought where she didn't really get 116 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: a look in, we started to see a more confident 117 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: Arena Sabalanca. And I was with you watching the match, 118 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: and you thought we were seeing a champion about to 119 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: go on and win in three sets. 120 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's fair to say it took her 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: that period of time to settle into the match. I 122 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 5: thought Rebikener started better, more composed, more clarity of thought, 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: was the one to get on with the job earlier 124 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: than Arena Sablenka, which is not a given even for 125 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: these elite athletes taking to that stage in that environment 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: and with all that's on the line. But then we 127 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: did see the Sabolenka that we've come to expect through 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: that seton set really settle and bring her best tennis 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 5: to the four and her ball striking at times in 130 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: the second set was fearsome. And then in the third, 131 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: as we've touched on, when it got desperate for her, 132 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: it was Rebeikener that decided, what if I'm going to 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: go down, I'm going to go down on my terms, 134 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 5: and she elevated her ball striking off both wings and 135 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: on the first serve and really starved Arena Sablenka of time. 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: And that's when that's when the anxiety just started to 137 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 5: get going again for Arena Sablinka. The competitive anxiety, just 138 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 5: that element of panic and of desperation re entered the content. 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: He could really say it on her face. Bt. 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Considering that Rebukkina hadn't played in a final for 141 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years, were surprised that she was the 142 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: one that seemed to have the more composure and steady head. 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: Well, it seems in her nature, doesn't it. When we 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 5: think about these two women in advance of the contest tonight, 145 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 5: we would have thought of Elena rebikiner As being the 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 5: more measured, more composed, I guess, more icy cool of 147 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: the two. And we knew that Sablenka would wear her 148 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: heart on her sleeve, but we also have seen her 149 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: grow and improve and involve as an athlete and handle 150 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 5: those difficult moments in a much better fashion over the 151 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: last twelve or twenty four months than perhaps what we 152 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 5: may have seen previously. So I think tonight we just 153 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 5: learned that there's still that slight akiles heel from Arena 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 5: Sabolenka when things when the pressure is at its absolute crescendo. 155 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: I think she's got a bit more growth in her. 156 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: And it was a different opponent across the net today 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: than the one she's had to face leading up to this. 158 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: I think Sabolenka had probably had the easier run into 159 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: the final, I mean rebike and had to take down 160 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: some big seeds including Igosh Fiontek there to get here. 161 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: You spoke before the match about the importance of the 162 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: first serve placement or the serve placement in general, and 163 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: we knew about Sabolenka's proclivity to want to go out 164 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: wide on the Ducee court, but that's a danger game 165 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: when you're playing someone like Rebikner. 166 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: Well it was, and it was actually a play that 167 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 5: we saw her get away from in terms of her 168 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: second serve as the match played out. When she's at 169 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: her best, Arena Sabolenka, we've seen her go out wide 170 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: on the second serve forty percent of the time so 171 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: far at this strain open. Tonight she's down below ten 172 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: percent of that same serve, So she was fearful. She 173 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: was not just respectful of the rebike and aforehand return 174 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: on second serve, but she was fearful. We saw her 175 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: go into the body on a handful of occasions, we 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 5: saw her go down the tee, but she really put 177 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: that wide one away. So it was a question that 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: we had going in, does she stay true to it? 179 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 5: Is she prepared to run the risk and we found 180 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 5: our answer. 181 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: So do you think that she was sort of rattled 182 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: and maybe changed elements of her game that she normally 183 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: otherwise wouldn't. 184 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: Oh, look, I think the camp would absolutely be reviewing 185 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 5: the first ten to fifteen minutes of the match because 186 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: it looked like there was a cause for concern in 187 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: Arena's mind when there was really no need to have 188 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: any It was about settling into the match. It was 189 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: about having clarity of thought. 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 7: It was about. 191 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: Accepting and normalizing all of the emotion and competitive anxiety 192 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: that comes with that environment. And I thought Rebiken had 193 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: handled those opening moments much better than Arena Sabalinka, And 194 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 5: then again same thing second half of the final set. 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: I just thought the tension that Arena Sablinka brings upon 196 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: herself at times hurt her in the end. 197 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: So when Sabolenka's up three love, was it more about 198 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: her dropping off her level or rebark and a rising Well, sometimes. 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a combination of both, you know, and 200 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: you know, Rebikena knew how desperate those moments were. Perhaps 201 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: there's actually, funnily enough, an element of tension that's removed 202 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 5: when you think about Rebiken of being through love behind 203 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: on the scoreboard and allows herself to free up and 204 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 5: play and brings her ball striking to the table, and 205 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, Arena Sablenka has given that one 206 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 5: break back and we're back on serve. The arm wrestles 207 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: back on and you've got to deal with that pressure 208 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: and tension all over again. So I think the truth 209 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 5: is probably somewhere in the middle there. 210 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: It was a real tug of war. I saw for 211 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: the first time this week that the Tennis Australia Game 212 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Insights team has brought out the scoreworm, which was a 213 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: new initiative that we saw on the television broadcast. But 214 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: just the swings in this match, the win predictor started 215 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: the match fifty four percent in favor of Sabolenka. At 216 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: one point she was out to seventy five percent as 217 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: the favored player, but then it swung way back the 218 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: other way. There was a swing of forty percent back 219 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: to Rebike in his favor and off she went. So 220 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: just a fantastic way to finish this campaign. 221 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: And in terms of total points one ninety two each, 222 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: so there wasn't a lot that separated them despite those 223 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: wild momentum swings. 224 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: Not a lot at all. But I think when we 225 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: think about the pressure points, so the points that really 226 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: did matter the most, that was basically one way traffic 227 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 5: twenty four to a Rebiken, a fifteen to sable Anca. 228 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: So total points one very level as you correctly point 229 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: out the ones that mattered the most, and that's where 230 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 5: the trophy was decided. Ultimately, ultimately was rebike and are prevailing. 231 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: So what are the pressure points? Are they gained just 232 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: game deciding points. 233 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: So breakpoints and points that can lead to a break 234 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: point and tire breakpoints where the two players are within 235 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: a couple of points of each other. So those points 236 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 5: that really take on that extra level of meaning, that's 237 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 5: what we're looking at when we talk about pressure points. 238 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, Rebarkan has been on a tear in the last 239 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: twelve months. She's now won twenty out of twenty one matches, 240 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: finished her season beating Sablenka in the WTA finals in 241 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: in Read and are just knocking off top ten players left, 242 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: right and center. So how much is it got changed 243 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: in that time? 244 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think we've known about the wonderful characteristics that 245 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: she possesses for quite some time, and when she finds 246 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: her best tennis, she can find a momentum that becomes 247 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: nearly impossible to stop. And we've seen that again here 248 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 5: through finishing her twenty twenty five campaign in such our 249 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: standing fashion. She's picked up where she's left off. We 250 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: saw her dominate that tiebreak at the year end finals 251 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 5: against Arena Sablenka from memory that was seven to love 252 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: in the second set tiebreak, and she's picked up where 253 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: she's left off and she's a deserving Australian Open Woman 254 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: Singles champion. 255 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, should we talk about her place in the game 256 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: now more broadly? I mean, we always knew that Rebiken 257 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: his game belonged up there with Sabolenka, with Fiontech, with 258 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: Coco GoF if you want to throw in a third name. 259 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: But now with a second major crown and her first 260 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: on hard courts, are we now starting to see a 261 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: different echelon for Elena Rebeikner when it comes to the 262 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: leading contenders for major titles as we move towards Roland 263 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Garrison and Wimbledon. 264 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 5: Once again, I think it's very possible, and I think 265 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 5: the leading echelon as you describe, John, I think that 266 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: all be fearful of this woman because they know the 267 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: assets that she has in her game and the weapons 268 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: that she brings to the table, and at times she 269 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: just takes the racket out of the hand of her opponent. 270 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 5: She just dominates the court with first serve, fourhand, backhand, 271 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: back end down the line returns on second serve from 272 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: well inside the baseline, she can take the racket literally 273 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: right out of your hands, and it wouldn't be much 274 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: fun to play against. And Elena Rebikner that's up and 275 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: going on all cylinders. 276 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: And what does Sablenka take away from this tournament? That's 277 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: three finals loss out of her last four slamsh won 278 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: the US Open last year, But what does she take 279 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: away from this tournament? 280 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: Well, I still thought, as we mentioned, I still thought 281 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: the opening ten or fifteen minutes were instructive from a 282 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: tension perspective, from a clarity of thought perspective, I thought 283 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: she was found just a little bit lacking there and 284 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: these margins are so fine. So whilst that's totally understandable 285 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 5: at a human level, at the elite athlete level, that's costly. 286 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: And same again in the back half of that third set, 287 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: I thought, just when she needed to dig in and 288 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 5: accept the arm wrestle that was upon her, I thought, 289 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: the frustration crept in again. And the intensity can sometimes 290 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 5: work against her. We know she wears her heart on 291 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 5: her sleeve, but sometimes I think that affects clarity of 292 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 5: thought and being able to be composed in a moment 293 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: that is ultimately calling for composure. So those are a 294 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: couple of things. I think they take away all about 295 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: mentality for me. 296 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the presentation when she accepted the plate 297 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: for runner up sable Anca, I mean she opened with 298 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: the line, Oh. 299 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 8: Honestly, guys, I'm really auspicious right now, I'll try not 300 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 8: to forget anything. I want to start with, Zilian, I 301 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 8: want to congratulate you on an incredible run, incredible tennis. 302 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 8: Congrats to you and your team on such an incredible 303 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 8: achieved moment. 304 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: And I thought that sort of embodied the emotions that 305 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: we were seeing in the end. She was just shell shocked. 306 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: And as for the second straight year she's lost out 307 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: on the biggest piece of silverware on offer at this 308 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: in the Australian summer swing. 309 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she would have joined Martina Hingus Martin and aav 310 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: read alover Is three time winners of the Australian Open, 311 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: where with Simon Ray, Tennis Australia Head of Game Analysis. 312 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: We have to get your thoughts on the men's final 313 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: as well too, Epic Semis, Karlos al Karez, Novak Djokovic. 314 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure health will be a big factor in this final, 315 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and you know what they're both like leading into this. 316 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I could not agree more. I was just going 317 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: to pose the question back to you. Both you go 318 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 5: with the physical, do you go with the mental slash emotional? 319 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: Or is it a combination of both. The reality is 320 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: it's probably a combination of both, you know, physically both 321 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: incredibly taxing affairs. One, I suppose Carlos Alkarez had the benefit, 322 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: the relative benefit or luxury of being able to get 323 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: to bed potentially before midnight. I wouldn't imagine he stayed 324 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: up to await the opponent, but some of the team 325 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: may well have. In Novak, the thirty eight year old champion, 326 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: I'm not sure that any of us can believe what 327 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: we saw there last night. 328 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, can I pose this question to you? I'm not 329 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: sure if it's a hypothetical or a retrospective, but if 330 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: you'd been asleep for the past two weeks and you 331 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: wrote from your two week homer and found out that 332 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic was in another Australian Open final, playing against 333 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: al Karaz, would you what would your reaction be? Would 334 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: you think he'd been dominant the whole way through, because 335 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: you certainly wouldn't have thought that he'd just sort of 336 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: scraped through with a walkover and then a retirement from 337 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Muzzetti and barely got through a five center against the 338 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: world number two. 339 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: I suppose how good is sport when you think of 340 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 5: it in that way? You know, gone for all money 341 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: against Muzzetti or certainly it was not looking promising for 342 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: the Djokovic fans amongst us, and I think he was 343 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: the first to put his hand up and say I 344 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 5: was in big trouble, you know, the benefit of the 345 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: walkover previous and the round prior to that, and then 346 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: found his best performance, undeniably his best performance, not only 347 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: of the fortnite but probably of the last eighteen to 348 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: twenty four months when he needed it most against the 349 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: Anix Center on rod Laver Arena to literally will himself 350 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: through to another Australian Open final. It was some performance. 351 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: I've heard Andy Roddick and also Chris Eubanks talk about 352 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: him conserving energy on Sinner's serve and kind of throwing 353 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: away a couple of points or at least not throwing 354 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: everything into it if it goes over four or five shots. 355 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: Was there anything to kind of back that up that 356 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: he looked to sort of, you know, save his legs 357 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: for his service games. Well, I thought the same I thought, 358 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I thought he knew that he had to have a 359 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: super aggressive night on serve Novak Djokovic, not just on 360 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: first but on second. So we saw him up the 361 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: ante from a serve speed perspective, and then he turned 362 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: the tables from the back of the court, which I'm 363 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: not sure any of us saw coming in terms of 364 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Yarnick's really been able to damage him fourhand ball, speed, spin, 365 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: heaviness of ball from the back of the court. But 366 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Novak decided last night and. 367 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: I'm not going to have this anymore. I'm going to 368 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: play big. I'm going to make a point of I'm 369 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 5: going to try to control my own destiny here, and 370 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 5: I'm going to make a point of starving you of time, Yarnick, 371 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: So I'm not going to cop and absorb the punishment. 372 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: It was a performance from Novak that I don't think 373 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: any of us saw coming, and it was so impressive. 374 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Five months ago, Djokovic said these words, it will be 375 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: very difficult for me in the future to overcome the 376 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: hurdle of sinner alcoraz in best of five on the 377 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Grand Slams. I think I have a better chance of 378 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: best of three, but best of five, it's tough. I'm 379 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: not giving up in that regard. I'm going to continue 380 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: fighting and trying to get to the finals and fight 381 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: for another trophy, but it's going to be a very 382 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: difficult task. He put on the record that best of 383 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: five was not his game anymore. He just knocked off 384 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: the world number two and best of five and now 385 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: he's got the world number one, but probably in a 386 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: less than desirable state if your Carlos Alcarez, given what 387 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: he had to overcome in the semi final. 388 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Alcarez had a struggles for sure, as we know, 389 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: and was a point or two away from being eliminated 390 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 5: in what was an incredibly impressive performance from Sasha Zverev 391 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: as well. So both of them had to find a 392 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: way through incredibly taxing physical affairs and now have to 393 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: find a way to empty the tank and get back 394 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: up for a Grand Slam final. I think it's a 395 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: salivating prospect ahead of us tomorrow night. 396 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: You would never bet against Novak Djokovic after what we 397 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: saw against Yannick Sinner, But how do you think this 398 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: final will play out? And how has Jokovic done against 399 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: al Karaz in recent years? 400 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: Well, I just wonder whether Djokovic can go to the 401 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 5: well again, you know, because I think it's going to 402 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: take that type of performance again. So to put that 403 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: on repeat as astonishing and astounding as that was last 404 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: night in rod Laver Arena, to put it on repeat 405 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: less than forty eight hours later as he got that capability, well, 406 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: I probably didn't think he had that performance that we 407 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 5: all saw last night in him, but to do it 408 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 5: again is even more of a task, isn't it. So 409 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: against that backdrop, I'm going to have to go with 410 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 5: Alcarez going in, but I was just blown away by 411 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 5: what Djokov's produced against Sinner. 412 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: So it's five four head to head in favor of Djokovic. 413 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: The last time they met was that US Open semi 414 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: final that you mentioned where al KaAZ was the victor. 415 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 2: Before that, it was back here in Melbourne last year 416 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: at the quarterfinal when Djokovic prevailed in four sets, and 417 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: then before that they met well two more times in 418 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, three and four times in twenty twenty 419 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: three was fairly evenly split. But I'm starting to think 420 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: that if it goes longer, Djokovic might be a better chat. 421 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 5: Well, we saw, you know, when I started to see 422 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: last night in the third set, when you started to 423 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: see the collapsing into the chair and the tablets, you know, 424 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: the magic tablets coming out from the camp, and it 425 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: almost signs that for any other player would be worrying, 426 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: But for Novak, we're probably thinking, oh, here we go. 427 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 5: This is when he's at his absolute best. That is 428 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 5: most dangerous, when he's looking desperate and gone for all money. 429 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 5: That's when he's digging in for the fight like we've 430 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 5: never seen before. So I'm expecting that we'll see a 431 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 5: version of that again from Novak Djokovic tomorrow night, and 432 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 5: who knows where that takes. 433 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Him, and controlling the pace of the points as well, 434 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: stepping off if he hears noise in the crowd. He's 435 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: going to pull out all the tricks against Carlos al 436 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Karaz and try and frustrate him if he can. 437 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: You'd have to think so. And who would have thought 438 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: going into the clash between Jokovic and Center in the 439 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 5: semi finals that Djokovic would serve bigger than Center on 440 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: first and second serve, hit the ball faster than Center 441 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 5: on both forehand side and backhand side. We haven't seen 442 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 5: that for twenty five, four months just when you have 443 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 5: a look at the profile of these two men, that's 444 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 5: just not been happening. It's been center on top by 445 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: ten kilometers an hour of both sides. So he made 446 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 5: the point, he made the decision that Na, that's not 447 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: going to happen. I'm going to make a change. I'm 448 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 5: going to put a stake in the ground and that's 449 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 5: not going to happen tonight. And he's going to go 450 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 5: to the well and find a way to do it 451 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: again against Alkaz. 452 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Does he have to hit as big against al Karaz 453 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: as he did against his Sony chance? 454 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: I think it's his only chance. Is to bring that 455 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 5: super aggressive brand of tennis, is to control the tempo 456 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: which you touched on earlier, and is to find his 457 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: best tennis when it matters the most in those high pressure, 458 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: high stakes moments. 459 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: If it is to happen, if it is to be 460 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: a Djokovic twenty five, would this be his unlikeliest major 461 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: title across his entire. 462 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Sort of up there with Nadal maybe in twenty two, 463 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and even one of the Federer over Nadal in seventeen. 464 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: Sure, but for Djokovic alone, Yeah, this be his unlikelyst. 465 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: I think it'd be right up there. 466 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 467 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Never bet against him though. I think that's what we've learned. 468 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Can we get a tip from you. 469 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: I'm going to say al karez in four or five. 470 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 5: If you push me, I'll say it's a marathon. Alcoraz 471 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 5: in five, Djokovic in five, djokovicin five. Al Right, I'll 472 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: go for elkaraz in five, two for Elkaaz, one for Djokovic. 473 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: We all agree that it's going to go the distance. 474 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Bring it on, Simon, Thank you so much for joining 475 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: us on the aar rap. Thanks for having me, guys, 476 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: good to chat all right. Time now to get a 477 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: recap of what else has happened today. We've had a 478 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: couple of doubles finals from AO Radio's Nat Edwards in 479 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the evening Server, and they also will preview the men's 480 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: final tomorrow. 481 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: Zverev serves Alkaraz gets this back. 482 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 9: Verev advancing on the net. 483 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 7: Al Karazko f allience coloss. 484 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: Alcaraz has found the answer. He's through to his first 485 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: Australian Open final. It has been a battled riyal on 486 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 4: center court today, five hours and twenty seven minutes, and 487 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: he's finally beaten Alexander Zverev in five quite extraordinary sets. 488 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 7: There we'll go the crossback, a crossback, Jokovic, ser guys. 489 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: Wives, through so sicky, through sex, sex, thery or six. 490 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 7: On the courts where he's granted so much history. This 491 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 7: will have to go down as one of the greatest 492 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 7: different performances. 493 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 10: Some cracking commentary there from the AO Radio commentary team 494 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 10: last night and yesterday in general, so much drama here 495 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 10: at Melbourne Park. As I welcome in our special guests 496 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 10: for a special edition of the Evening Serve tonight. It 497 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 10: is a very good evening to AO Radio commentator an 498 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 10: Ossie player as well. She's on the socials with Tennis Australia. 499 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 10: But Jamie Flers, welcome to you. Jamie, Hello, happy Women's 500 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 10: final day. How exciting, so exciting. It's great to have 501 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 10: you back here on the Evening Serve. And then here 502 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 10: for I think a third time, we have tennis journalist 503 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 10: Eleanor Crooks. 504 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 11: Eleanor, thanks so much for coming in. No worries. You 505 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 11: can't get rid of me. 506 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 10: I cannot get rid of you and why would we 507 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 10: want to, Because you're one of the best in the 508 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 10: business of kis what's making news at Melbourne Park Well, 509 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 10: history will be made tomorrow night on Rod Labor Arena 510 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 10: as Carlos al Karaz and Novak Djokovic go head to 511 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 10: head in the men's final. 512 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 9: Should the world number one salute and. 513 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 10: Clinch his first Australian Open title, al Koraz will become 514 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 10: the youngest person to complete a career Grand Slam, but 515 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 10: if Djokovic is victorious, it will be his twenty fifth 516 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 10: Grand Slam title, surpassing the record twenty four he currently 517 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 10: shares with Margaret Court. And in doubles news, fourth seeds 518 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 10: Elise Mertens and Juangshue have been crowned women's doubles champions, 519 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 10: while Christian Harrison and Nil Skupski defeated Ozsi duo Jason 520 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 10: Coobler and Mark Pulman's in the men's final. 521 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 9: And the FEDS erupts. 522 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 7: What a moment the first Australian Oper title for Christian 523 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 7: Harrison and Neil Skupski and. 524 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 9: That is what's making news today. 525 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 10: Disappointment there for the Ossi duo Jamie, Yeah, a little. 526 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 12: Bit of disappointment, but they've had an unbelievable week that 527 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 12: they should be very proud of themselves and yeah, I 528 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 12: know their whole team were around them today that Rala 529 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 12: was pumping, but unfortunately they couldn't get it done. Skupsky 530 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 12: and Harris were just way too strong. 531 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 10: Did you have Allegionnaires hat with you today? They were 532 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 10: getting out and around the place. 533 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 12: I actually do have one, Gosh, I actually do. I 534 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 12: should have brought it in, should have worn it tonight, 535 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 12: sam Well, I was going to wear it as I 536 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 12: was taking socials around Rala, just to show my support. 537 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 11: But next time I'll bring it in. 538 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 10: Do you have a Legionaires hats in your wardrobe? 539 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 9: I do not know. 540 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 11: We don't soon sentor need them in the UK. It 541 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 11: has to be said. But it's a look. 542 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 9: It certainly is a look. 543 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 10: It is iconic when it comes to Mark Pulman's and 544 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 10: an excellent effort to make it to a Grand Slam final, 545 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 10: but disappointment there for the Aussies. 546 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 9: Now let's talk. 547 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 10: We do just need to back over what happened yesterday, 548 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 10: because yesterday was absolutely mind blowingly extraordinary. I was sitting 549 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 10: there Eleanor for hours and hours on end, probably about 550 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 10: ten hours really those two matches just with my jaw 551 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 10: dropping to the floor. Some of the shot making was incredible, 552 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 10: but the drama that surrounded both of these matches was 553 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 10: just another storyline in itself. 554 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 13: Rod Lever was pretty full, the Serbians were going absolutely insane. 555 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 11: It was Yeah. 556 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 13: It was certainly one of the more memorable Australian Open deeds. 557 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 10: I mean it was vintage Novak, wasn't it, Jamie, because 558 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 10: he just went to another level and I mean Sinner 559 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 10: as we know, you know, defending two time champion here 560 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 10: at the Australian Open. He had eight break points in 561 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 10: that fifth set and he just couldn't capitalize and when 562 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 10: it came to those big points, Novak once again rose 563 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 10: to the challenge. 564 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, he definitely did. I think in terms of Sinner, 565 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 12: sometimes it just doesn't happen. Sometimes you can try your 566 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 12: luck and those breakpoints conversions don't happen, and that's where 567 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 12: you have to go back to the draw. But in 568 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 12: terms of Novak's performance, it was very vintage. He had 569 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 12: a lot of doubters at the start of this tournament. 570 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 12: Over the last couple of days and I think he 571 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 12: had a lot to prove and he definitely came out 572 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 12: with vengeance. 573 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 10: Certainly did thirty eight years old, two hundred and fifty 574 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 10: five days, I think, the oldest man in the Open 575 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 10: era to reach the Australian Open final, and he owns 576 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 10: that court, which would give him so much confidence heading 577 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 10: into a match like that, and then of course a 578 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 10: final where Carlos algaz has never. 579 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 9: Been in a final here at Melbourne Park. 580 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 13: Yeah, and of course Novakdjokovic never lost a Fun Open. 581 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 13: So that's the heck of as you say, heck was 582 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 13: something to take with you to know that you've played 583 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 13: in ten finals and you've won every single one of 584 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 13: them's So yeah, I mean, I just thought his level 585 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 13: yesterday was absolutely unreal, especially given the performance he put 586 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 13: in against Therenzo Messeeti two days earlier. Went by his 587 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 13: own admission, he just nothing was working. He wasn't feeling 588 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 13: the ball, he was heading out and then all of 589 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 13: a sudden Musseti on fortunately got that injury, and you know, 590 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 13: but you get your luck sometimes and you have to 591 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 13: make the most of it. And the Novak Joko which 592 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 13: we saw yesterday was I mean, I think that's the 593 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 13: best performance I've seen him give, certainly since the Olympic. 594 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 11: Final, I say, in twenty twenty. 595 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 13: Four, and obviously, you know, he's another year and a 596 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 13: half older since then. So and to do it over 597 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 13: five sets, you know, that was he did it over 598 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 13: two sets, and I think had it gone to a 599 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 13: third that match, he would potentially have been in trouble. 600 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 13: And I wasn't sure that he had enough of that 601 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 13: fifth set yesterday, but the fifth set was maybe his 602 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 13: best set. The level was just absolutely incredible. 603 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 10: Well, let's get Novak Djokovic's thoughts on that win. 604 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 14: Definitely the finest in the last couple of years under 605 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 14: the circumstances, and Semi's against. 606 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 15: The you know, Sener, who has been playing best tennis 607 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 15: of his life in the last couple of years, particularly 608 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 15: here two a time defending champion, doesn't get better than this. 609 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 14: I mean, honestly, I started my preparations for the new 610 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 14: season and kind of set the goals. And you know, 611 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 14: it's no secret that Grand Slams are, you know, where 612 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 14: I want to play my best tennis. But it becomes 613 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 14: I guess more difficult for me to like motivate and 614 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 14: myself and I ask myself questions, you know, Okay, what 615 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 14: is it that I'm looking for for myself? 616 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 16: And and I was imagining really playing against Jannick and 617 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 16: Carlos at the final stages of Grand Slams this year 618 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 16: and battling it out and really giving it all all 619 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 16: that I have so. 620 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 14: Very fortunate to already get it in the first slime. 621 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 10: Of the year, thirty eighth Grand Slam Final, Jamie, can 622 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 10: you even just fathom that? 623 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 9: Like, I don't know that that's ever going to be broken. 624 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 12: That's honestly insane. And I think the thing that I'm 625 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 12: excited for for their final is no matter who wins, 626 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 12: it's a new record or it's something has been broken. 627 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 12: Carlos being the youngest, or Novak going for his twenty 628 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 12: fifth it's beyond exciting in my books. 629 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 10: I mean to be he had a witness history like 630 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 10: that is quite incredible too, isn't it. 631 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 12: No, it is. 632 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 13: And what I love is that neither of them are 633 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 13: sort of worried about saying this is what I want 634 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 13: to achieve, you know, Carlos saying, yeah, I want to 635 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 13: be the youngest man to complete the career Grand Slam. 636 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 13: You know, that's my main target for the year. And 637 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 13: actually it takes real guts, I think to put that 638 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 13: out there, because then if you don't achieve it, everybody knows. 639 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 11: How disappointed you. You have to back it up. Yeah, 640 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 11: you do, that's right. 641 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 13: And Novak, you know, he again, he's he said, I'm 642 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 13: still playing basically because I want to do my best 643 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 13: at the Grand Slams, because I want to win more 644 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 13: Grand Slam titles. 645 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 11: And I think. 646 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 13: Most people probably thought that perhaps his chants had gone, 647 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 13: but he didn't think his chants had gone. And that's 648 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 13: the crucial thing, isn't it. And I thought that yesterday 649 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 13: that the key thing in both of those was that 650 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 13: both those men believed that they were going to win 651 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 13: those much is and they were going to do absolutely 652 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 13: everything they could to get over the line. 653 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 11: And I think in the end that was probably the. 654 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 12: Different That's sorry, that's so true because Senna never came 655 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 12: out and said anything like that. Zverev never came out 656 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 12: and said said anything like that. So for them to 657 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 12: be able to say that and then back it up, 658 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 12: I think that's pretty incredible. 659 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 10: Four hours and nine minutes. We look at the other 660 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 10: match that was five hours and twenty seven minutes Colors 661 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 10: Algaz and Alexander Zverev, and this game, I mean we 662 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 10: were sitting here. Our show, the evening serve was delayed 663 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 10: yesterday and pushedback because of this incredible match that was 664 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 10: happening on Rod Lavor Arena. There was so much drama 665 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 10: with it, the two sets to love up and then 666 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 10: Carlos just looking like he was a broken man with 667 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 10: what we thought was maybe an injury. 668 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 11: Was it cramp? This is the big talking point. 669 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 10: Isn't it eleanor out of all of this, this is 670 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 10: the story that the journos at chasing the questions that 671 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 10: have been asked for some context, I guess for some 672 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 10: of our listeners. So, Jamie, you are a player on 673 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 10: the tour. What are the rules around cramps and medical timeouts? 674 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 12: So in terms of what I know is you can't 675 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 12: get treatment for a cramp. It's you can't get a 676 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 12: three minute medical timeout. You can get treatment change events, 677 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 12: which is ninety seconds, but that's not allowed to be 678 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 12: taken as a medical But as a player, you can 679 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 12: bend those rules because when you go to ask or 680 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 12: tell the physio, if you use the wording I felt 681 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 12: something go in my quad or I feel something in 682 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 12: my quad, then they can have a look at it. 683 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 12: And ninety nine percent of the time you're going to 684 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 12: get that three minute medical timeout, whereas if you come 685 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 12: in and call the physio and go I'm cramping, they're 686 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 12: not going to give you because you've said the word 687 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 12: i'm cramping. So it can vary, and as a player 688 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 12: you can kind of get around a little bit depending 689 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 12: on how you say the words and the way that 690 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 12: you act. But I think it was more the communication 691 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 12: from the physio to the chair wasn't probably the best. 692 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 12: Because the physio came in, they communicated to the play, 693 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 12: but then the physio started working straight away on the 694 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 12: play and that's when it's. 695 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 11: Very cracked it a little bit. So that's my view 696 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 11: on it. 697 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 10: Or Carlos al Karaz is into his very first Australian 698 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 10: Open final here at Melbourne Park. Let's take a listen 699 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 10: to his thoughts post match. 700 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 17: This one was one of the most or more demanding 701 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 17: matches that I have ever played in my in my 702 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 17: career so far. You know, I think physically we just 703 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 17: push each other to the limit. Today we push our 704 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 17: bodies to the limit, which I think the level of 705 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 17: the fifth said was was really really high. So I 706 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 17: just started really really happy to to, you know, get 707 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 17: the wind that I came back and yeah, I just 708 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 17: rung this this one one, you know, in the in 709 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 17: the top position of you know, one of the best 710 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 17: matches that I ever I have ever ever won, I 711 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 17: mean because I just lost giving up. I mean, I 712 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 17: just uh, I hate I just like I just hate 713 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 17: giving up, just how I could feel after all. You know, 714 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 17: I just don't want you to feel to feel that way. 715 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 17: There are some moments that it seems like, Okay, I'm 716 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 17: just giving up or just I'm not fighting at all, 717 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 17: which when I was when I was younger, there were 718 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 17: a lot of matches that I just want to I 719 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 17: didn't want you to fight anymore, or just gave up, 720 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 17: and then I just, uh, I got much here, and 721 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 17: I just hate that feeling after all. Uh, you know, 722 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 17: thinking about Okay, I could do it, or I could 723 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 17: do a little bit more, or I could suffer a 724 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 17: little bit more. That feeling that thoughts just you know, 725 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 17: kill myself. So you know, I just, uh, every step more, 726 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 17: every just one second more of suffering, one second more 727 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 17: of fighting, It's always worth it. So that's that's why, 728 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 17: that's why I just fight until the last ball, and 729 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 17: I always believe that I can that I can come 730 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 17: back in every situation. 731 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 13: If it was a choice between this Australian Open and 732 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 13: becoming the youngest man to complete the career Grand Slam 733 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 13: or all of the other three this year, which would 734 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 13: you choose. 735 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 17: I would choose this one. Yeah, I if I make 736 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 17: the final of the other three. Yeah, but yeah, I 737 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 17: would say good, Uh, I write, I write it, win 738 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 17: this one than than than the three and complete the 739 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 17: Grand Lamp and the younger, the younger stever to you 740 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 17: to do it? 741 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 11: Interesting question there at the end, Yeah, wasn't it. 742 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, But I just loved that quote that he said, 743 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 13: you know about the suffering, and you know, then if 744 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 13: you were to rig, if you were to look back 745 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 13: and regret like it, that one point that I didn't 746 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 13: give that extra a little bit that I could have done. 747 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 13: And that's obviously something that he really thinks about. And 748 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 13: I think, what a great example to young players for starters. 749 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 11: And also like. 750 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 13: If you're an opponent and you know that Alcaraz is 751 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 13: not gonna give you anything. He's gonna absolutely bust his 752 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 13: gut for everything right to. 753 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 10: The very exactly for longer. 754 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 13: If there is a physical effect, it won't be so 755 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 13: much from the cramp as just from the fact that 756 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 13: he played for five and a half hour. But so 757 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 13: I mean, he's a baby and he's twenty two, so 758 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 13: he should be out of here. 759 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 11: I feel like he can. 760 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 13: Bounce back, whereas thirty eight year old Novak Djokovic as 761 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 13: like incredible as he is in terms of everything, in 762 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 13: particular way that he looks after his body and how 763 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 13: diligent he is in everything on that side, you know, 764 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 13: that's tough to bounce back from four hours and nine 765 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 13: minutes is tough, and we have seen at the ground 766 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 13: Sime events over the last year or so that he 767 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 13: has struggled to back up. So I know that he 768 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 13: hasn't had you know, as much strain on his body 769 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 13: throughout this tournament as he has in other tournaments. But 770 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 13: that was a really you know, physical, intense match yesterday 771 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 13: and it's got to have some effect. 772 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 11: I feel very interesting. 773 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 10: A quick tip from both of you before we move 774 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 10: on to our competition winner who's winning tomorrow night. 775 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 12: Our kraz I had to pause on that. 776 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's so hard. Do you know what? 777 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 13: I Am going to say that Djokovic is going to 778 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 13: do it because I think he knows that maybe this 779 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 13: is the chance and. 780 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 9: He's gonna throw absolutely everything at it. 781 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, oh my god, Oh. 782 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 9: I can't wait for tomorrow night. 783 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: Thank you to a Radio and Thatt edwards for another 784 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: edition of the Evening Serve. Lexi Mitchell will be back 785 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: tomorrow to break down the men's final. What a match 786 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: of promises to be. I think the only guarantee we 787 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: can make is it will probably go to five sets. 788 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: Carlos al Karaz, Novak Djokovic one going for his career 789 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: Grand Slam would be the youngest ever to do it 790 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: in al KaAZ and for Djokovic thirty eight, for thirty eight, 791 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: his thirty eighth Slam final. Would you believe at thirty 792 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: eight years of age, if he wins, he'll stand head 793 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: and shoulders above anyone else in the game. With twenty 794 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: five Grand Slams, one more than Margaret Court. We can't wait. 795 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: We'll join you tomorrow night for the AA Rap