WEBVTT - JESSIE SPENCER - RAHDA MITCHELL - LAST DAYS OF THE SPACE AGE

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast a week They're.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode

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<v Speaker 2>with Jesse Spencer and Ruder Mitchell to very iconic Australian

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<v Speaker 2>actors who are currently featured in the Disney Plus series

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<v Speaker 2>The Last Days of the Space Age. Jesse is actually

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<v Speaker 2>an old friend of mine that I've lost touch with,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think he knew that I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be chatting with him today, So it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of nice that he remembered me and didn't think, oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy you know what I mean, or forgotten who

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<v Speaker 2>I was. You know, with these big press junkets, they

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<v Speaker 2>do so many of them and you only get allocated

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<v Speaker 2>like eight minutes, so you start off by sort of

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<v Speaker 2>saying your name and where you're from, and that's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of where you can hear Jesse realize that it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>old me again on the other end of the microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>But today we are talking about this new series set

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia in nineteen seventy nine, where a power strike

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<v Speaker 2>threatens to plunge a western Australian town into Darkness, where

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<v Speaker 2>the city is also hosting the Miss Universe pageant and

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<v Speaker 2>a US space station, Skylab, also crashes just beyond the

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<v Speaker 2>city suburbs. It's a tapestry of characters and I really

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<v Speaker 2>do hope you guys check it out because it's actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very Disney and very fun to watch with

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<v Speaker 2>the family. I will ask about Writer and Jesse's relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Disney and what it's like to actually make a

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<v Speaker 2>Disney show. You will hear a little bit about their

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<v Speaker 2>upbringing as well, and if their parents ever encourage them

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<v Speaker 2>to go to space or have very ambitious dreams. Rather,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about how far we've come in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>equality between men and women. Plus you will even find

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<v Speaker 2>out about their accents and if their time spent overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the case for Jesse, who's been in the

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<v Speaker 2>US now for twenty years, did that make it hard

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<v Speaker 2>to sound authentically Australian? Again, There is so much to

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<v Speaker 2>unpack with these guys. It's very short and sweet, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's still some fantastic secrets along the way. So sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and relax as we unpack the last days of

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<v Speaker 2>the space Age. Amazing Benjamin Norris and Hi Jesse, how

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<v Speaker 2>so how are you? I didn't even like about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we had a friend in common or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brett blewet Bred.

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<v Speaker 3>Blow down the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Serious, Yeah, yeah, it's like a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he was, he was on Neighbors for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right right, okay, yeah, so it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Back back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All I remember, Jesse was that you used to

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<v Speaker 2>I went for like a roast. You used to do

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<v Speaker 2>like a Sunday roast at your place and have lamb

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<v Speaker 2>because did I?

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<v Speaker 3>I did lamb for Americans with Americans?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Americans didn't want to eat the lamb like.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to introduce them to week Classic.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's just that lamb is not They're like Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamb's a little exotic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It was went down like a yeah, a sack

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<v Speaker 3>of bricks, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it depended because there was often sort of Aussie

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<v Speaker 2>expats in Australia there that you'd sort of into your house. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going off on a answership. People listening to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be like, I don't care that is.

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<v Speaker 3>About Jesse's lamb roast.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, you know, guys, I loved the character of your

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<v Speaker 2>daughter Tilly and her ambition to be an astronaut in this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wondered about the two of you, if your

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<v Speaker 2>parents encourage you both to have ambitious dreams growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, late seventies, early eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got a daughter now who's three, and I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of really relate to this because, you know, thinking ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know humanities, you know, wants to go the

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<v Speaker 1>space races are back on to some degree, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to go to Mars and can we go beyond?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was sort of like I told my wife,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I would love my daughter to be

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<v Speaker 3>the first woman on Mars. And she was like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not sending her to Mars.

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<v Speaker 5>But I sort of really like understood that passion because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Tilly has you know, she believes.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, you know, and it's such a i mean,

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<v Speaker 1>big crazy dream, but why not?

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, to sort of validate and encourage someone's dream

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I loved it too.

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<v Speaker 6>A friend of mine he actually was raising his daughter

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<v Speaker 6>to go to Mars, but turns out she just wants

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<v Speaker 6>to be a dentist.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm big dreams for your kids. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem that like impossible actually these days. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be one way you're heading.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to space. That's like terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't even have a friend Elon Musk because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be afraid he'd ask me.

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<v Speaker 4>On the ground us we'll going, mate, you have to, can't.

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<v Speaker 2>What I thought was compelling about this series was the

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<v Speaker 2>way in which it addresses the power dynamics between men

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<v Speaker 2>and women in Australia. Was surprising to play this role

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<v Speaker 2>and notice how far we've come with equality in this country.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there were women in the seventies who were

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<v Speaker 6>a little in advance of where Judy's at when the

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<v Speaker 6>story begins, in terms of working in the workforce. But

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<v Speaker 6>that seems to be a journey that we're all on culturally,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're all in different chapters and different parts of that,

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<v Speaker 6>but ultimately it's about emancipation and people being able to

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<v Speaker 6>take control of their own lives, and certainly that's the

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<v Speaker 6>journey for Judy, and then the sort of things you

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<v Speaker 6>lose in that and the conflict around that and in

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<v Speaker 6>the dynamic of a relationship, the sort of sense of

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<v Speaker 6>betrayal about it and the confusion about it was really

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<v Speaker 6>interesting to track and really to understand the perspective of

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<v Speaker 6>both parties.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the show really kind of demonstrated that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it was surprising to me because

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<v Speaker 2>whilst it is a long time ago, it's just still

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<v Speaker 2>a short period to see how far we've come in

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<v Speaker 2>so many different ways. And I thought some of the

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<v Speaker 2>conversations between you and Jesse and your characters was just

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<v Speaker 2>so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>In those terms of like the gender roles and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just filling into those gender roles.

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<v Speaker 6>They felt very traditional, you know, very traditional even for

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<v Speaker 6>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's because that's the perth reality as well.

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<v Speaker 6>That things were very traditional, traditional to what I guess

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<v Speaker 6>to kind of you know, the culture of our ancestors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was interesting to sit of tract that personally.

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<v Speaker 6>I was reading this book that my grandmother had given

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<v Speaker 6>me in the eighties that I'd never read, called Women's

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<v Speaker 6>Power Handbook, and it was written by Joan Kerner, who

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<v Speaker 6>obviously was you know, in politics in that era and

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<v Speaker 6>had this sort of experience of you know, battling men

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, trying to move things forward as an activist,

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<v Speaker 6>as a politician.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was interesting just to.

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<v Speaker 6>Read that book as a kind of a legacy that

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<v Speaker 6>my grandmother had left to me that I'd never paid

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<v Speaker 6>attention to, and look at that in relationship to say

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<v Speaker 6>Judy's Journey and just the kind of issues that women

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<v Speaker 6>were facing in that era and you know to today.

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<v Speaker 2>As you say, I was interested because you know, the Disney,

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<v Speaker 2>the House of Mouse is just such a recognizable company

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<v Speaker 2>and we all grew up with it here in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, watching Sunday Night Disney or Saturday Morning Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you both grow up watching a lot of Disney

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<v Speaker 2>as it's strange to now be making a series.

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<v Speaker 4>Well Disney is like what's Disney? Disney is this huge thing.

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<v Speaker 3>A whole bunch of Yeah, I mean the Disney I

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<v Speaker 3>think we watched was.

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<v Speaker 4>We started with Mickey Mouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, I was watching like Mary Poppins and the

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<v Speaker 3>Sound of.

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<v Speaker 5>Which I've gone back to watching now they have a daughter,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm going back and watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the classics that I've never seen. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I've ever seen Pinocchio. I don't think like some of.

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<v Speaker 1>These older ones, and it spans such a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I mean there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Something very innocent about them. And yeah, I love.

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<v Speaker 6>They have maintained that that sort of ethos and what

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<v Speaker 6>they represent. You know, it's hard to do on such

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<v Speaker 6>a grand scale, but they really do create quality content

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<v Speaker 6>that's sort of family friendly, and I felt, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope that, you know, families watch this show together,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we would have the TV rolled into

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen. I mean, obviously they don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be on the tablet. But you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in the eighties, like Sunday night, we would

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<v Speaker 2>get a good meal and they wheel the TV in

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<v Speaker 2>and we could watch something as a family. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when I was watching this show, my partner was watching Monsters,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I can't watch that show. But

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<v Speaker 2>watching this is such a beautiful story and it's so

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<v Speaker 2>well made. I just hope that families can watch it.

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<v Speaker 6>Multi generational, like you could watch it with your grandma,

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<v Speaker 6>you can watch it with your child, you know, and everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody can relate to one of the characters in the story.

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<v Speaker 6>There's something very very broad about the possible audience for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, universal themes and like a variety of characters from

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<v Speaker 5>all walks of life that create this wonderful tapestry in

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<v Speaker 5>a neat, quirky time in Perth. You know, it's sort

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<v Speaker 5>of it's a strange little ethereal vignette that that was

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<v Speaker 5>just really fun to make and a great cast of

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<v Speaker 5>characters and really fun writing.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had a great time making it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good task start out for a family.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are global actors and it's quite amazing because

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have made so much content all around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, you lived in the UK and been

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<v Speaker 2>in America and I just think coming home and making

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<v Speaker 2>something like this, I was curious about whether all the

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<v Speaker 2>other accents that you've been having to do over the

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<v Speaker 2>years would sneak back in.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was the we had to do, sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like how do we speak because.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously we're married, so we must have had something from

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<v Speaker 6>the same place and we've.

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<v Speaker 4>So many places, Like what is it to be Australian?

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<v Speaker 4>And that was that was a conversation. Bizarre conversation, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you've been doing there are certain you know, dialect,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've both been doing an American dialect for quite

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<v Speaker 5>a long time, and you you know, you work so

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<v Speaker 5>hard to sort of get to a certain place with

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<v Speaker 5>that and needs to have to undo it, or it

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<v Speaker 5>was more it felt more daunting.

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<v Speaker 3>Than it actually was.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it actually came pretty organically after being back

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<v Speaker 7>in Australia, and it's such a good Aussie story. I

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<v Speaker 7>think we didn't want to overthink it, but you do

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<v Speaker 7>have to think about it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guys, you know, with these junkets, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just get quickly cut off, so I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to answer or ask my I should say my

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<v Speaker 2>last question, which as everyone knows, is what is something

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<v Speaker 2>from behind the scenes. I thought i'd give you something.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bit of a secret or fact about Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer that you guys might find interesting. Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>that in two thousand Jesse auditioned to play Anakin Skywalker

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<v Speaker 2>in the Attack of the Clones. It was actually a

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<v Speaker 2>role that went to Hayden Christensen. But pretty amazing that

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, you know, Jesse had really only been

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<v Speaker 2>known for being Billy Kennedy on Neighbors, so yes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>gone on to do some amazing things with shows like

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<v Speaker 2>House and Chicago Fire. But a little fun fact there. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I will also tell you something quite interesting. Jesse was

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<v Speaker 2>the person who taught me to not to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know too much about yourself, which was actually

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<v Speaker 2>because of this hilarious story that happened to us. One

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<v Speaker 2>day while we were in the US. We had tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to go and see Missy Higgins, who was playing in America,

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<v Speaker 2>playing in la and we went to go and see

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<v Speaker 2>this show. But I'd randomly told this cashier at Whole

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<v Speaker 2>Foods that I was going out. And I guess, if

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<v Speaker 2>you know me, and you know me well enough, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know that this is something I would do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I told this cashier that I'm friends with Jesse Spencer

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to see Missy Higgins. Anyway, this chick,

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<v Speaker 2>this cashier ends up turning up at the gig and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just really really awkward, and basically Jesse said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, don't tell people anything because they will actually

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<v Speaker 2>follow you. In the US, very common for people to

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<v Speaker 2>do that kind of bonkers things. And Jesse was very

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<v Speaker 2>famous at the time. He was shooting House and it

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of in that, you know, the heyday of

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. Anyway, I hope you've enjoyed the chat

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<v Speaker 2>with the guys. Go and check out the Last Days

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<v Speaker 2>of the Space Age. It's really fun and it's on

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<v Speaker 2>Disney Class. I look forward to catching up with you

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<v Speaker 2>guys soon