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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Police Commissioner

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Speaker 1: and Territory Controller Jamie Chalker. Good morning, Good morning, Katie, Commissioner. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: are you able to run us through those exposure sites

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Speaker 1: so there's no confusion for our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Sure. So Friday, the twenty fifth of June the corner

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Speaker 2: store at the Friendly Gross which was the previous igh

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Speaker 2: Stewart Park, So there are Tier two sites and that's

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Speaker 2: to go home and isolate, get a test and stay

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Speaker 2: home so you receive a negative test on the Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Those same to tier two sites included Bunnings at Barwin

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Speaker 2: Conwell Bank in the city as I understand it, and

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Speaker 2: the BWS on Parrap Road. So that's the tier two sites.

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Speaker 2: And as you'd be critically aware, the tier one exposure

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Speaker 2: site and our most critical is the Buff Club for

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Speaker 2: patrons there between three pm and eight pm and their

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Speaker 2: direction for anyone that was there during that period is

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Speaker 2: to isolate it home for fourteen days and arrange to

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Speaker 2: be tested asap. So even if you get a negative result,

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Speaker 2: you are to quarantine for fourteen days under the Chief

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Speaker 2: Health Officer.

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Speaker 1: Direction and Commissioner of course, people can head to the

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Speaker 1: Coronavirus dot NT, dot gov dot AU website to make

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Speaker 1: sure that they are up to date with those exposure

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Speaker 1: sites on the Buff Club. I understand that those contacts

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Speaker 1: now have changed. We've gone from one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: so that's my understanding.

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Speaker 2: The contact tracing is obviously doing its job. We initially

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Speaker 2: started by reviewing the QR coding as well as those

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Speaker 2: who registered. As it's a licensed premises a members club,

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Speaker 2: people are obliged to sign in and members ordinarily register

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Speaker 2: as well, So through that and then having discussions with others,

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Speaker 2: we've identified that additional cohort. But again, our greatest ability

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Speaker 2: to get people to come forward who didn't register is

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Speaker 2: ensure that they are isolating.

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Speaker 1: How many of those people have health authorities now being

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Speaker 2: So I understand it's far more, but I know as

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Speaker 2: of last night there was at least sixty that they'd

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Speaker 2: early hours of this morning, and I'm heading into our

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Speaker 2: SEMPSI meeting at nine point thirty get an updated brief

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Speaker 2: during the course of that.

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Speaker 1: Meeting, and Commissioner, will all of those people have to

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Speaker 2: So they must quarantine at their current place that they're

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Speaker 2: those people don't leave, that they stay domiciled together, get

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Speaker 2: in touch with us and we'll be able to facilitate

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Speaker 2: the testing regime. That's the most appropriate course of action.

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Speaker 2: We simply don't want anybody who's had a potential close

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the real concern at this point, Commissioner. We

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Speaker 2: So unfortunately it does occur that the health team had

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Speaker 2: to ramp that up. They had some logistical issues as

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Speaker 2: it relates to the technology, which relates to the bar

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Speaker 2: encouraging people to go to the coronavirus website to be

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Speaker 2: directed to the booking arrangements. But I understand that we're

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Speaker 2: as a public message. Much confirmed.

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Speaker 1: So obviously out there at Marara now the Netball Stadium,

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Speaker 1: people are able to go out there to get tested,

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Speaker 1: but you do need to make a booking or do

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Speaker 2: Making the bookings far more preferred. It just simply enables

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Speaker 2: the facilitation of that to occur. They've been moving people

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Speaker 1: Commissioner, are you concerned about that that you realistically we've

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Speaker 2: Well, we're certainly not turning them away for them not

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Speaker 2: if they have a mobile phone and a smartphone with them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a message from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: It says, is it taking two days to get tested?

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Speaker 1: I was told on the twenty eighth that I was

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Speaker 2: Well, again, they're trying to coordinate this and they're dealing

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Speaker 2: prioritize that they've got a booking system that's in place.

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Speaker 2: I'll double check if there is a delay there, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, Commissioner, Can I ask, are we expecting more cases today?

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Speaker 2: Certainly we're awaiting the outcome of some further testing if

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Speaker 2: we believe will be adequately quarantined and might't pose a

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Speaker 1: Do we have the results back yet from those seven

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Speaker 1: close contacts of the man in his fifties from yesterday

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that I'm about to receive the outcome

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Speaker 2: I don't believe they're too far away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we should have those a little bit later

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Speaker 2: I think that's the intent. As I say, my understanding

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Speaker 1: All right? Now? How about the wife and the daughter

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Speaker 2: They're within that cohort and I'm hopeful we'll have the

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Speaker 2: Well, again, I can only be beholden to the testing

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Speaker 2: I have to also add, in particular for that family

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, there certainly seems to be very goodwill from

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Commissioner, Are those international flights still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we certainly have the capacity out of the CNR

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Speaker 1: Now, how are we with the pathology results? So when

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Speaker 2: My understanding as it relates to being able to understand

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Speaker 2: The broader element was around understanding the genealogy of the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we definitely do have enough tests. It's not

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Speaker 2: Correct, and we've ramped up our contact tracing capacity as

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Speaker 1: Commissioner people adhering to the rules and regulations. Are the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. Certainly, we're seeing a lot more compliances

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Speaker 2: help us out and that way your business can be

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Speaker 1: Commissioner, what kind of businesses are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: The number that I think trying to take a little

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Speaker 2: and if we see any blatant breaches will act.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you mean like takeaway food or coffee

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Speaker 2: Like that, No takeaway foods covered. There's a number of

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Speaker 2: that just aligns nicely into our approach of engagement education and.

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Speaker 1: this is your warning. If you don't actually shut up shop,

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Speaker 1: you could face a significant fine.

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Speaker 2: Correct. I won't hear any complaints. The warning has been provided.

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Speaker 1: Now. I do want to ask about the face masks

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Speaker 1: people complying with this, because we've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: phone calls yesterday saying that there were people exercising on

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Speaker 1: the esperanade in other locations that we're not wearing masks.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've just driven it in to the city from

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Speaker 2: the emergency Operations center. I have to say the large

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Speaker 2: proportion of people that I've seen just coming in now

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Speaker 2: have been wearing masks. I've noted one or two that

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Speaker 2: have it, and on my return leg if I see

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Speaker 2: any further then they may will be getting engaged by

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Speaker 2: myself out in the public place, and a fine may

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Speaker 2: ensure it. Again, we're trying to raise awareness here. It

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Speaker 2: is an inconvenience, but we understand that it's a necessary

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Speaker 2: inconvenience to ensure the ongoing protection of the Golden Territory

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Speaker 2: and to assist us in being able to get us

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Speaker 2: back to the lifestyle we've enjoyed post one pm on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So Commissioner, fine fines could be could actually be issued

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Speaker 1: if you're not wearing a mask. How much are those fines?

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Speaker 2: So the individual finds five and fifty six dollars, Wow.

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Speaker 1: You've got to make sure you've got those masks on. Now,

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Speaker 1: can you just run us through the age. Is it

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Speaker 1: kids under the age of twelve that do not need

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Speaker 1: to have a mother on?

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Speaker 2: That's my understanding. Again, we appreciate that people with the

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Speaker 2: little ones, it's a bit more of a challenge from

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Speaker 2: a compliance point of view. But again, what we would

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Speaker 2: simply ask is your safest course for you and your

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Speaker 2: family is to stay where your domicole if you do

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Speaker 2: not need to go out, if you don't meet the

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Speaker 2: five exemptions to stay home.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner, there's a lot of questions coming through on the

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Speaker 1: text line. I'll just get to a couple of these.

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Speaker 1: I'm very mindful of your time. There's one here it

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Speaker 1: says mechanical workshops essential services. There are a few open,

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Speaker 1: so if.

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Speaker 2: You refer to schedule one of the chief help Officer directions.

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Speaker 2: There's clarity there as to the types of businesses and

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Speaker 2: essential services that are provided. That as system the definition

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Speaker 2: of the essential worker. So I'll point people to that schedule.

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Speaker 2: If you then seek further clarity, please ring the hotline

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Speaker 2: one eight hundred and one ninety three triple one and

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Speaker 2: they'll be able to give you further guide.

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Speaker 1: Okay, somebody else has been in contact and said we

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Speaker 1: are essential and are at work, but the boss reckons

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Speaker 1: we don't have to wear a mask while we're This

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Speaker 1: person says they are wearing one regardless. But really, even

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Speaker 1: if you are at work, if you're in a common area,

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Speaker 1: you need to have a mask on.

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Speaker 2: Correct, They must wear a mask.

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Speaker 1: As I say, there's plenty of people asking questions. Some

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Speaker 1: of these we will able to just we will be

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Speaker 1: able to just direct to that hotline. But there's one here, Katie.

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Speaker 1: People are going to the dump. This isn't one of

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Speaker 1: the five five reasons for leaving the house. Is that

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Speaker 1: the case of people able to go to the dump?

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Speaker 2: No, they're not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker. We might we might leave

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Speaker 1: it there because I know that you are under the

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Speaker 1: pump and obviously need to get into that meeting. Do

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Speaker 1: you have any idea what time we'll be anticipating that

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Speaker 1: press conference to happen later this morning so we can

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Speaker 1: make sure that everybody is able to get the latest

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Speaker 1: on those figures.

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Speaker 2: I think, with the best of intentions, it will be

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Speaker 2: a name around eleven o'clock. The only thing that will

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Speaker 2: delay that will be seeking clarification on contact tracing advice

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Speaker 2: to this point in time in the event that any

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Speaker 2: positive cases to be able to talk about, So hopefully

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Speaker 2: we can get it out before midday, that would be

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Speaker 2: the best of intention, but be very assured when we

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Speaker 2: do come out, it will be making sure we've got

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Speaker 2: as much information as we recently can put into the

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Speaker 2: public domain.

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, Sorry, just one more police shop fronts. They

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Speaker 1: are closed at this point.

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Speaker 2: Aren't they They are closed, Yes, that's correct, But.

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Speaker 1: If somebody needs the police still get in contact on

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Speaker 1: that one three one, triple four number.

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Speaker 2: Correct or if it's in the case of emergency triples

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Speaker 2: your own.

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker, thank you for your.

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Speaker 2: Time today, Thanks Katie, and thanks for your health.

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Speaker 1: Thank you