1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by Quantus, the official 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Once again, this season, Quantus is prouds will be flying 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everybody, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. The sun is setting on 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: what's been a beautiful day here in Adelaide, a very 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: hot day which we didn't quite realize until we stepped outside, 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: did we, Louis, But Australia they finished the day on 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: eight for three hundred and twenty six after winning the toss. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: Plenty to talk about after the first days player this 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: third ashes test, where do we begin? 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Late? Well with the weather, Maybe because David Saker walked 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: into the press conference just now and I think someone 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: asked him, is the fact that the bowling coach is 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: speaking a sign of how you view the day? And 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: he just said, well, no, it would just be hard 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: on any of our bowlers to front after fronting up 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: in the heat, in scorching heat, and I'm kind of thinking, oh, well, 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: it wasn't that hot, and then we walked immediately out 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like Oh, it is really hot. I haven't 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: probably been out in the sun today and we've been 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: in a nice air conditioning box. We never live a 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: nice life, don't we, Josh. But it's going to get 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: even hotter tomorrow, and that's where I think Australia might 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: have just fallen a little bit short despite some excellent 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: batting performances that we're going to talk about. It's going 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: to be forty degrees tomorrow or very close to that. 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Wicket should get a bit quicker, it should get a 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: bit better to bat on, and I feel like Australia 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: at this point might just be feeling like they don't 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: quite have enough runs. 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, England spoilers, they didn't wilt today in the heat. 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: In fact, they were pretty consistent throughout the whole day. 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Other than a start to the day which Michael Thorne 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: called garbage on Fox Cricket. They were a bit wayward early, 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: but that was all after Steve Smith was the late out. 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Just you know, we found that that news a bit 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: under an hour before the toss broad It was with 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Kuwadi back in who had a good day and Australia 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: got starts. A lot of their batters did pretty well, 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: made a lot of good partnerships, but the day certainly 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: belongs to Alex Carey, the hometown hero. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: Vlae Over was chanting his name. 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: When he brought up that hundred today and it was 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: a pretty emotional one for him as well, wasn't it. 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: It was his finest ASHES moment for sure, Josh, I 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: don't think it was his best test innings. I reckon 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 2: the ninety eight night out he made in christ Church 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: early last year where he kind of rescued him in 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: pact Couman's rescued Australia from a really dire situation. I 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: think that's probably number one, probably something we could have 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: asked him. 53 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: But so this eclipse is the stumping of Johnny Best. 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that might be the ASHES moment 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: he'll be known for the most. Not the only thing 56 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: you'll ever be known for is as Stu a Broad 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: tried to say. But yeah, it was his It was 58 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: his best performance in an ASHES test for sure, and 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: a really special note to it. You know, his father, 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Gordon died in September. His family were here, I think, 61 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: he said, some of his uncles and cousins, and of 62 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: course his wife Eloise and their two kids. But Eloise 63 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: was crying, you know when when we brought up the hundred, 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: and it was just such a special moment. You could 65 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: just see how much it meant to Alex. He looked 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: up to the heavens. He's pumping before he even got 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: to the tiny He's a pretty calm, cool, measured guy. 68 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: He keeps his emotions in. Jack even said in the 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: press conference he didn't really want to show that side 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: of him, but he did a little bit today and 71 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: I think we all enjoyed it definitely. 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: He came out of the blox pretty quickly too, when 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Australia had lost their fourth wicket. He got to twenty 74 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: six off twenty four and then sort of got himself 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: a bit more measured as wickets were eventually falling around him. 76 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: He just gets those punches that sort of off the 77 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: front foot, sort of off the back foot, they go 78 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: through the gaps on the off side. I think that's 79 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: a really good part of his game. But he had 80 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: a couple of I won't say lives, because the first 81 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: one was an lb W decision that England thought was 82 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: definitely out that was given not out after England called 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: for the review, but then on seventy two. He perhaps 84 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: edged one behind. 85 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the perhaps a bit yeah, and. 86 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: England were certain of course it was given not out 87 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: by umpire Rasa. They went upstairs and then the drs 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't seem to really sink out. 89 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Can you sort of explain what happened there? 90 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean David Sekah could. He was the England 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: bowling coach we mentioned did the press, so he was 92 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: pretty filthy, let's be honest. He's basically said that this 93 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: has been something that's been going on all series. He 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: said that there was another incident in Perth which I 95 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: couldn't quite remember off the top of my head, so' 96 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: we don't have to look that up after this presser. 97 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: But they feel like that the RTS has just been 98 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: a little bit off. There was certainly a noise, so 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: Kerry's gone for the big cut shot given not out, 100 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: but Jamie Smith behind the stumps is just like that's out. 101 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: Review Immediately Ben Stokes sends it upstairs and you see 102 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: quite a big spike what looks like an edge kind 103 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: of spike a couple of frames before the ball passes 104 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: Kerry's bat. But then when it's passing carry's bat. It's 105 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: completely flat, so you know that can sometimes happen. There 106 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: can be other rustles of noise, it can be you know, 107 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: foot dragging along the ground. But in this instance, everything 108 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: just pointed towards that being an edge, but the third 109 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: umpire just couldn't give it out because it wasn't It 110 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: wasn't married up. So I don't think it was a 111 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: failure from the third umpire unless you want to argue 112 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: that he should be able to kind of recognize that 113 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: was an edge and maybe look at something different. But like, 114 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: this seems to be a failure if this was indeed 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: an edge, which I mean Kerrick basically admitted he hit it. 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: So this seems to be a failure in the technology 117 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: and that's why England are pretty upset about it. 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: Kerry was also asked if he was a walker and 119 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: his response was clearly not because yeah, there was a sound. 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I found it interesting as well that the now retired 121 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: umpire Simon Torfall set on Channel seven that to him 122 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: it was definitely a spot of an edge because he's 123 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: never seen the sound waves go that sharply up and down. 124 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: I suppose if it's not an edge, so I guess 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: there is a little bit of history there. But again, 126 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: you can't make that call if it doesn't marry up 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: in the time, can you. 128 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: Well, people will argue there's been a long running thing 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 2: about specialist third umpires and specialist television umpires, that maybe 130 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: that something we really need to invest in international cricket. 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of merit in that, and 132 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: potentially someone who was a real expert in sound waves 133 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: and had some training in how these you know, what 134 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: an edge looks like versus what a foot scratching on 135 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: the ground looks like. Maybe someone like that would be 136 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: in boldened to make that kind of call, because it 137 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: would have been a bold call for the third UMPO 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: because Australia would be going, hang on, like, that's you know, 139 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: we're seeing the same thing as you and that's not 140 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: out according to what we know about it. The other 141 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: one is the thing people always ask about is well, 142 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: what about hotspot? Why isn't that being used? Well, I 143 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: think we kind of know now that it's quite an 144 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: expensive technology. I think it was like a military kind 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: of technology initially kind of converted for television and Australia 146 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: was the last place to kind of keep using it 147 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: for quite a while, but they've kind of gone against it. 148 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: That would have been perfect for this one. I think 149 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: that would have been pretty conclusive either way. As it were, 150 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: it didn't go England's way, and I think they just 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: feel like they've got the raw end of the stick 152 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: a couple of times in this yearies. 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have kept off what has been an 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: otherwise really good day for the tourists. After that slow 155 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: start and obviously losing the toss, they took two wickets 156 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: on thirty three and then took two wickets on ninety four. 157 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: The shining light of that first half of the innings 158 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: there was Usamon and Kwaja coming back in his for 159 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: another Test match a day before his thirty ninth birthday. 160 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: He says, I'm not done and he was dropped on five, 161 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: a catch that probably Harry Brooks's second slip should have taken, 162 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: and Kawhajan made them pay. 163 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: He really took off after that. 164 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: In fact, he hit thirty six runs of his next 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty eight balls and looked like he was playing without 166 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a care in the world. 167 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like to talk about Kauwadra today is 168 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: to probably talk about Steve Smith. First of all because yeah, 169 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: you touch on it off the top, but do we 170 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: want to kind of just go through what a yeah, 171 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: let's get it back and he kind of set of circumstances. 172 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it goes back even further to Monday, Australia's 173 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: main training session. Smith was here, but he didn't train 174 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: at all. He was indoors. We now, you know, at 175 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: the time, we knew he was unwell, but we probably 176 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: didn't know the extent to what he was going through. 177 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: He battered on Tuesday, but those who watched him closely 178 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: suggested that he didn't look kind of fully one hundred 179 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: percent right. Pat come and said yesterday is press conference, 180 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: that you know, a bit fine to go, and that 181 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's been on well before games and 182 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: just gone gone in. I think that probably marries up 183 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: what we didn't know is that he's been experiencing these 184 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: I think it's that you call it vestibular issues. So 185 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: that's the year in erear for the layman, and it's 186 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: related to the vertigo kind of symptoms that he's had before. 187 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: I'm told this isn't in the instance of vertigo specifically, 188 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: but it is kind of all related to the same 189 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: kind of that's right. Yeah, this inner ear thing that 190 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: really throws off your balance and can make you feel 191 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: nauseous and dizzy. In the past, he's experienced these when he's, 192 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, after he's been hit in the head. From 193 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: what I can kind of understand, he had them in 194 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty during an ODII series against India, had them 195 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: again in twenty twenty two after he knocked his head 196 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: on the turf trying to take a catch in a 197 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: T twenty game, and then he missed the game's Afghanistan 198 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty three World Cup when he was 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: feeling it. He seems to as quick as they come on, 200 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: he is basically as quick as they seem to go away. 201 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: So it probably suggests that he'll be fine for Melbourne. 202 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: It also probably suggests that he'll be fine. He might 203 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: have been arguing that he would have been fine for 204 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: this test, even though he might have been saying that 205 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: even though I'm feeling not great today, I feel like 206 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: days two, three, four five, I'll be okay. You know. 207 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: As it were, you could see in the warm up 208 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: Cummins and McDonald was speaking to him and it looked 209 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: like they were telling him no, mate, you're not right 210 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: versus the other way around, which you know, at the 211 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: time kind of surprised me because I would have thought 212 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Smith would be the one you're ruling himself in or out, 213 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: like only he can really know how bad he's feeling. Ultimately, 214 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: it was probably the right call. If he wasn't right 215 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: to bat today, Australia were always going to win the 216 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: Tyson Bat if the coin fell their way. It did, 217 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: he would have been batting inside what the ninth tenth 218 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: over and if he wasn't one hundred percent then you know, 219 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: that's when they would have really needed him. As it were, 220 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: it was mcquador comes in and does a pretty good 221 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: job a number four. 222 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably for the best as well, because on 223 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: a pretty sapping day it hit thirty five degrees here 224 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: as well. I mean that's going to be tough for anybody, 225 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: let alone not feeling one hundred percent. 226 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: So, I mean, we thought it was mcquijor's career was 227 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: uber right, Like we were basically writing the you know, 228 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: the tribute piece to him yesterday. I think, you know, 229 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: we're all kind of thinking, well, what is the future 230 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: hold for a guy who turns thirty nine on Thursday? 231 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Of this Test match, he's been left out of the team. 232 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: Head and weather All seemed to be going really well 233 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: as an opening combination. Australia have kind of shown their 234 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: cards now by suggesting they really like Heads as a 235 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: red ball opener, and the weather All's had a really 236 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: strong start to his career. So that looked like it 237 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: was over and done with for Usmond. But I mean 238 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: he's an adaptable, versatile player and he kind of showed 239 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: all that when he got it today, didn't he. 240 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they went at him with the short stuff early, 241 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: put those fielders back and were sort of hoping that 242 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: maybe those reflectors have slowed down and could use their 243 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: arches and castes to really rough him up, But it 244 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: wasn't the case. He looked I mean after that drop catch, 245 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: like I said, I felt like he looked as comfortable 246 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: as he has for a long time at the crew. 247 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: So he was hitting lots of boundaries, finding the gaps, 248 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and maybe that's also another thing when you're out a form, 249 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: you're hitting the fielders in the ring, whereas today he 250 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: was finding the gaps and sweeping well off Will Jacks 251 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: who bowled a lot through that middle session. And yeah, 252 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it felt like he was going to get 253 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: it felt like it was going to be a certain 254 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: thing that he was going to get to his hundred 255 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: after a certain point. Didn't that It was just that 256 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: top edge sweepshot that brought him undone. 257 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: That's right, And yeah, a couple of funny day for 258 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: Will drags. He's gone at more than five and over, 259 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: but he's ended up getting Kerry and it was mc 260 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: kawhadra out you know, Australia's two best batters in the day. 261 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: I mean, it was such a nearly day for Australia, 262 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: you know, nearly becomes the oldest Australian centurion in nearly 263 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: fifty years, you know, Manus, I don't think one of 264 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: the things Australia would have been worried about when they 265 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden had this recast three and four 266 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: was Marnison and Adding together and they really got bogged 267 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: down through the latter part of that first session. Australia really, 268 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: like everyone talks about England being the aggressive team in 269 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: this series, but Australia really, you know, they want to 270 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: be moving the scoreboard on at all times and they 271 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: think if you're if you're nicking and nudging and blocking 272 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: him back that they think that's when teams can really 273 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: get a hold of you, so they always prefer the 274 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: aggressive option. Well, those two actually kind of got out 275 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: of that rut. Yes, it was mcguig gets gets the luck. 276 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: But Marnas went back at Ben Stokes. He had a 277 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: couple of boundaries off one of his overs. Kawhij as 278 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: you mentioned, kind of goes on this tear but yeah, 279 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: that kind of nearly days. So whether all before that 280 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: it goes out to Archer for the third time in 281 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: this series. Is he a little bit suspect against much 282 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: faster bowlers than what he's experienced in the Sheffield Shield. Yes, 283 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: he would have faced the odd guy who can bowl 284 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: over one hundred and forty k an hour, But Test 285 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: cricket's about dealing with that for you know, maybe your 286 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: entire inning. So Archer gets him again. Marnus two fifties 287 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: in his past two games. You think he's on the 288 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: verge of a breakthrough. Another lapse in concentration gets him 289 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: in the first ball after lunch. Green. We know the 290 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: knock on him is being a slightly tentative starter. Will Yes, 291 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: that's something he's improved a lot in but you know 292 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: that looked like a kind of reversion to what we've 293 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: seen in the past. And then English, you know, it's 294 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: had two really good opportunities to make some runs, only two. 295 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: He's made starts in both of them. But a bit 296 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: of a white ball shot I thought to try and 297 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: guide Josh Tungue down to third man. That might be 298 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: a little bit harsh and it was still really early 299 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: in his career. But yeah, a nearly day for Australia. 300 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: With the bat, Josh Archer was great with the ball, 301 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: definitely to stand out from England's point of view. He 302 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: bowled long spells at the start of every session today 303 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: six in the first session, four in the second and 304 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: then five at the start of the third and it 305 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: was very economical in all three of those. And then 306 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: he got the chance just one over with the new 307 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: ball at the end of the day, which may have 308 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a misstep by Stokes because 309 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Stokes gave himself two overs with the new ball which 310 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Archer could only bowl one. As it turned out they 311 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: couldn't get Nathan lineout or Mitchell Stark, who should be 312 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: said made a very good thirty three again with the path. 313 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: Well, if they bowled their overs at faster than twelve 314 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: overs an hour, then they would have absolute maybe ten 315 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: overs with the new ball later in the day. I mean, 316 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: they've only got themselves to blame for only getting three 317 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: but three overs with it. 318 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree. I think I was looking at 319 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: will Jacks today. I think part of that desire to 320 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: get to the second new ball was the fact that 321 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: he bought fourteen over straight from the river end today, 322 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: one for eighty during that spell. So again you're conceding 323 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of runs, but you are getting through your 324 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: overs quicker. So that was an interesting tactic that England 325 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: brought into today. 326 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a funny one. Jack's, like I think 327 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: we said on the podcast the other day, like I 328 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: kind of think he. I actually think he said best spinner. 329 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Having watched Bethel and Bashir and the Nets. I think 330 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Jack's gonna put some gets a high arm release and 331 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: gets put some decent revs on it. But he does 332 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: bowl a lot of a lot of short stuff. I 333 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: think today probably get exposed a little bit by It's 334 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: not really his fault. He's been a lot a lot 335 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: of T twenty cricket and probably not that much first 336 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: class cricket. Well, when you you don't have to bowl 337 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: twenty overs in a day. In T twenty cricket, you 338 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: bowled twenty four balls and you can kind of bowl 339 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: short to get a guy off strike. But you know, 340 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: twenty overs and days about one hundred and twenty balls 341 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: and you've got to try and land at the same 342 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: spot over and over again. There was some good stuff 343 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: in amongst that, like at times he kind of got 344 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: some bounce and he looked like each owed this week 345 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: it will spin a bit, So I think Nathan Lyon 346 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: will like the look of that. But yeah, I think 347 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Archer deserves a fair bit of credit. Like he's ticker 348 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: got questioned after the last game, only bowl fast when 349 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: you're there's nothing on the line, champion, all that stuff 350 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: from Steve Smith, Well there was plenty on the line 351 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: today and he delivered. That was I think the best 352 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: bowling effort by an English bowler in this series. Yes, 353 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: that was the first day in Perth, but these were 354 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: much tougher bowling conditions that required a lot of persistence. 355 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: He was superb. Big tick for Archer hitting one forty ish. 356 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: That one forty ish mark, that's him bowling within himself 357 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: and being able to kind of nip it from that 358 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: speed and hitting a really good length. Yeah, he did 359 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: really well. I thought, Yeah, Cars was an interesting one. 360 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: They decided to keep him for this game. I thought 361 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: Atkinson has definitely missed the mark a little bit in 362 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: the first two tests, but I felt like I probably 363 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: would have stuck with him. I just feel like he's 364 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: the kind of nippy bowler that can be dangerous with 365 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: new ball and Australian surfaces. But yeah, you can't understand 366 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: Cars is just such a wholehearted guy. And good Field 367 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: took two couches there through the middle. I know he 368 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: dropped one in Brisbane, but you know that might have 369 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: kind of got him the the nod here and then 370 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: Tongue I thought was better than his figures suggested. But look, 371 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: all of them, apart from Archer, just let the pressure 372 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: off a bit too often. I think both sides will 373 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: probably be walking away thinking that they probably should have 374 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: done a bit better today. 375 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 376 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: And in terms of those run rates that you touched on, 377 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: I had to look for the series, England's run rate 378 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: have been four point one five and Australia's hovering around 379 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: four point five, So it was bating quicker despite you 380 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: know the talk around England's batting team. 381 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: So I think we need to give a bit of 382 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: credit to Mitchell Stark. 383 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: Now the sixty three balls soaked up today only carry 384 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Roots and Stokes have faced more balls in the series 385 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: and stuck to this point. So he's doing with the 386 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: ball and he's doing with the bat at the minute, Big. 387 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: Mitch having an amazing series. Really looking forward to seeing 388 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: how he goes with with the ball Tomorrow. They're going 389 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: to need I'm going to need to show a lot 390 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: tomorrow with the ball because it's going to be bloody hot. 391 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 2: You know, they got the they got the four quicks 392 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: in with Camperen Green there as well, Pat Cummins. You know, 393 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: luck if you this is he's probably come in for 394 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: the flatteress wicket of the series. And you know he 395 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: hasn't played a game of cricket, any game of cricket, 396 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: you know, T twenty, you know, Park cricket whatever, in 397 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: five months since he had his back. You know, they're 398 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: all saying that he's the kind of guy who can 399 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: do this, he can come in off little preparation. Well, 400 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: this is a pretty extreme example of it. So let's 401 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: see how he goes in in some some pretty tough 402 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: conditions tomorrow. 403 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll finish with the BBL Good game, Luke, 404 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: given that the KFC Big Bash is well underway today 405 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: rating score of twenty two, so I'm pretty happy with 406 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: that as low as possible. Remember is the goal. Check 407 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: out the Big Bash app if you want to play. 408 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: My most rare player today was Ravi Bopara, a Sixers 409 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: international player. 410 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: He played a couple of seasons with them in the 411 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: early days. 412 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: Yes, so international player and Sydney Six's that was a 413 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: kind of crossover. Yeah. 414 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Do you remember Bopara? 415 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, batting all around, played a lot of 416 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: white ball cricket for England. Yeah, that's a good one. 417 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have remembered him. I would have gone for 418 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 2: someone like Gee von Mendez. 419 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. Very nice and spinner, wasn't it. 420 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was a mystery spinner. Might have 421 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: gone both ways. Would have got a slightly rareer score 422 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: than Bopara, but I think it would have been neck 423 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: and neck. 424 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, well, let us know your scores as well. In 425 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the BBL grid Game, Louis we'll catch you tomorrow. After 426 00:18:47,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: day too makes Josh was sp