1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Rube, I'm here. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm here to claim the twenty four k for twenty 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: twenty four you have to get on the list. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: How have you two been? 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 3: Very well? Very well. 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: We've been on a summer holiday and we both look 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: so rough. It's going on. 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: It's the third day back after holidays. Is it gets 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: harder every day? You are here for Fringe? 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Of course I am indeed, k Hole is back, that's it. 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: And apocalypstick double the fun. 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 3: The smell of lip bum in the morning is. 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: That well, let's just be honest. Petroleum makeup, fashion, it's 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: all pollution. But if it's not killing a dolphin, I 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: won't wear it. 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Are you happy? Can I just say? Also, what a 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: thrill it is to be back in Perth. 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: But the car you guys sent for me today from 19 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: my hotel, it was not a car. It was a 20 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five Volvo. This car was so old it 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: voted no. And the air color on this thing, the 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: air cut on there, It had no air cot. It 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: was just an old Sweetish man blowing off my face. 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Chosen that I should chosen that phrase. So one of 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: the old boxing bolbos. One of the old boxing bolbos 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I guess what broke down? No, no, absolutely broke down. 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: So there's me standing on the court and I don't 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: know how to drive. Last time I was in a car, 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: I chipped my teeth on the gearstick. So do you 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: think you think I know what to do? I have 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: to call the R a CV, and what's happening like? 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, the room from it doesn't go waiting a while? 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Is that that's a long distance drive for them? I 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: don't even know. I just drop the V here the 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: V I I often do. 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I often do try and drop the V, but it 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: comes back every so often. 38 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: What can I say? But it was nice. 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: I stopped by on my way to get my next 40 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: COVID vaccine. I got it fire and I got it 41 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: in the forehead purely out of habit. I don't want 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: to say. My plastic surgeon is busy, but she lives 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: with her knees. Absolutely the K hole. 44 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's back bye, you know, by great demand. Let's 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: not beat around the bush. The K hole is not 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: for the feth hearted. 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: The K hole is not the K hole. 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: You're find yourself a bit of a complainer, stay away? 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: Do you know what if you do find yourself a 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: bit of a complainer. Come along, I've had my fair share. 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: I know what to do with you. 52 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: That's it. 53 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, look, here's the thing. The k Hole is what 54 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: I like to call late night done right. It's fast, 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: it's messy, it's loose, it's hilarious. I take my favorite 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: acts from the fringe and I tell them to get angry, 57 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: get drunk, get naked, get on stage. Okay, he is brilliant. 58 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Every time we do it here it is an absolute party, 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: and Perth crowds are the loosest. I mean up to 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: the elbow. It's just a magnificent, fun, terrible, outrageous, messy time. 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: So come along. And then there's the other show, Apocalypstick. 62 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: You tell us about that, Okay, I'm going to be honest. 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. We need it to be a good 64 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: year because twenty twenty three was rough. Yeap twenty twenty 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: three was awful. Twenty three he was so bad. Gallaine 66 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: Maxwell was glad she was in jail for it. Right, 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: it's a rough time. So this show is a bit 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: of a release for that. It's a bit of a 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: hopeful view of the future. It's a lot of laughs. 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I think we need to relax a laugh. But also 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: it's a story that I have been investigating for about 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: three years or four years of my family, which need 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: their own Netflix series. If anyone from Netflix is listening, 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: ninety six air ffm per call. 75 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Me, I'm available. 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: My uncle Helmut, my mum's brother, was raised in East Berlin, 77 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: became a clown and a comedian in eastbourl Now, if 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: you don't know what East Berlin was like in the sixties, seventies, fifties, 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: the Cold War, it was a walled in occupied city 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: where all aid and materials were monitored and controlled going 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: in and out, and people were basically prisoners. I know 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: that's unthinkable in today's society. There's nothing like that. No, 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: no learned from my mistakes, none at But there's something 84 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: amazing right in the human spirit needing to laugh in 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: these like crazy times, and for him to have that, 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: and then for me to kind of find this out. 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: I never met him. I only met him once when 88 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: I was six, so I never really met him. To 89 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: then find this out, I've been investigating this story. He 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: ends up getting thrown out of East Berlin because he 91 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: just makes himself a nuisance, which is the most Australian 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: form of protest i've ever heard. And then he becomes 93 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: a bank robber. Yeah, so it's about it's about rebellion, 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: it's adventure, it's funny, it is crazy. 95 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: There are so many. 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Twists and turns in this there's a great reveal at 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: the end which I can't I can't tell on here because. 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: It's a bit adult. 99 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: But the costumes as well. I have been traveling around 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: the world mainly because I haven't been allowed back in Australia, 101 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: so I went to London and I haven't been in 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: London for a long time. In fact, last time I 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: was in London was when the Queen died. If you 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: want something done, and I then the costumes from this 105 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: show are gordgeous. 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Yes, right, so you've got to come for that, is 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: it? It's outrageous. 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of the combination of comedy and rebellion, protest 109 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: and fun and it's a party. 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: It's amazing. He was just thrown out for being a 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: nuisance though, I. 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, exactly right, because they could have shot him, 113 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: but therefore they him to say the bullets. 114 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I guess. 115 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 116 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Was a dancer, was a dancer and then a filmmaker 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: and my dad was a painter, so there was no 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: hope for me. 119 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: So how are you so shy and retire? Would you 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: come out of your shell? They kept on. 121 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: I say to me, please, Reuben, be an accountant, be 122 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: a plumber, be a funeral director, so you won't run 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 2: out of business. 124 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: So have you had the call from the directors or 125 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: at least the producers of one of the dancing shows, 126 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: you know. 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: Like Joe what, I would love that the world or 128 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: I started quickly come dancing. I started as a dancer. 129 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: I would love that. But I just don't think I'm 130 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: famous enough. You don't reckon It hurts me to say it. 131 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to say it. No, I don't want it. 132 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: So can people come to the show and make it 133 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: a reality because some of those people are on there 134 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: now who just yeah, they're on the reality shows because 135 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: they've been on other reality shows. 136 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: Isn't an interesting thing? We kind of have this. 137 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like we keep on selling 138 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: the imaginary world while the real ones kind of running out. 139 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: So people are just kind of rising up to fame 140 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: without doing just by being visible, just because you're visible, 141 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: just because you've got cheek bones doesn't mean you're an 142 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: authority on anything, right, and I should Dancing with the 143 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: Stars will start a Yeah, just one. 144 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: Question, what do I do? Do I lead or do 145 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I follow? 146 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: In that? 147 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 148 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Actually, that's interesting. 149 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: Well, I think we're living in an age where you 150 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: can mix it up. 151 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you flirting with me? What is this is? 152 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: This is pulled back in circular. 153 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: Not the only thing that pulls back. I didn't aze 154 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: the f here super foreskin. 155 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: You are a person of the people of the world. 156 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I am, I'm a princess Diana. 157 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: I'm curious in your thoughts of I feel like so 158 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: many ways we have stepped forward in the world, but 159 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: we've taken a really big step back recently with the 160 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: criticism that drag queens have been copying, particularly in the US. 161 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean, but none of them were on Epstein's flight log, 162 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: were they? 163 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: So you know, it's almost like drag queens have been 164 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: around toxic people for so long and have been abused 165 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: by them that we're a really good judge of character. 166 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Who knew? Here's the thing. 167 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: People keep on saying, old drag queens are coming for 168 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: the kids. But let me ask you this, have you 169 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: ever met one. They're awful, they're messy, they can't do 170 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: anything for themselves, they never have any money, no, no, 171 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: and children are worse. I just think it's a total 172 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: beat up. People use religion as a trojan horse for 173 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: their biggotrey or their fear, or they get sold a 174 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: lie that isn't true. And the thing is, here's the 175 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: real thing that tells you. My view on this is 176 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: summed up really perfectly. And I might get in trouble 177 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: for saying this, but if you think drag queens are 178 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: the ones coming for your kids, just remember. 179 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Drag queens pay taxes. Churches pay hush money. 180 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 181 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: We had a similar conversation. Yes we did, we. 182 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: Did, we did. Indeed I have gone that note. 183 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Let's sell some tickets. Yeah, that will be Dancing with 184 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: the stars. 185 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: I can't wait for Apokalypstick the Netflix series, and don't 186 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: of course at the Wrecker Butte. You can book your 187 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: tickets through fringeworld dot com dot au and don't forget 188 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: the k hole. 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: You can also if all of that is too complicated, 190 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: just go to reubenk dot com. It's a one stop 191 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: shop for your ruben knee and the void vol always Please. 192 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: Now I shall call you silly boxy things. 193 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks, pleasure,