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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation from her time as one of

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Speaker 1: the judges on Master Chef. Well now she's swapping manes

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Speaker 1: for desserts as co judge on Dessert Masters. She joins us, now, hello, Melissa,

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Speaker 1: how are you hello?

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Speaker 2: I'm fantastic. You know they say life short, eat dessert first.

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Speaker 2: I'm just taking that literally when it comes to career advice.

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting because I love baking because of the precision.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a good make it up as you go

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Speaker 1: along baker, I mean cook, so baking suits me.

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Speaker 2: But what would your you like? You like the specificity

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Speaker 2: and the alchemy of baking.

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Speaker 1: I think I do, and I can follow a recipe

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Speaker 1: without having to think about it. But if you've got

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Speaker 1: people coming over, you don't have a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: What's a very easy go to dessert?

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Speaker 2: Very easy go to dessert is a very simple butter cake.

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Speaker 2: And it's just equal weights of butter, sugar, flour, and eggs.

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Speaker 2: So if you have two, if you have two eggs,

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Speaker 2: crack them into a bowl way and then the same

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Speaker 2: weight of everything else. And then you can swell some

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Speaker 2: jam in there. You can add some chocolate chit, you

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Speaker 2: can throw in some fruit, and it's just or or

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Speaker 2: you can put the zest of a whole lemon into

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Speaker 2: the into the batter and then make a quick icing

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Speaker 2: with icing sugar and lemon juice, then an instant lemon

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Speaker 2: drizzle cake.

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Speaker 3: So the two eggs and you got your little scale,

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Speaker 3: so the two eggs would weigh whatever grams, and then

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Speaker 3: the sugar would weigh.

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Speaker 2: The same, and then exactly just equal weights of everything

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Speaker 2: of those four things. Obviously, the flour needs to be

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Speaker 2: self raising flour. That is a key carryat But apart

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Speaker 2: from that, yeah, then you can add in your topping, seasonings, textures,

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Speaker 2: whatever you like. But it's a really great base cake recipe.

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Speaker 2: And then you can flex and be like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: just quickly looked this up and they don't know how

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Speaker 2: dead simple it is.

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Speaker 3: That is so simple. That's the no dig around Cake.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I need to rebrand it the no dig around Cake.

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Speaker 1: No dig around Cake. Now, last time I saw you,

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Speaker 1: we were in an airport. I think you were flying

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Speaker 1: from Sydney to Melbourne. You've been up just for the day.

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Speaker 1: You're a woman of so many. You were interviewing a

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Speaker 1: US Sea fighter as I called them, the kick in

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Speaker 1: the fast.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, yes, unusual, Well it's not so unusual anymore.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this a little bit this year. I

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Speaker 2: was interviewing world champion israel A Dsair, who is one

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Speaker 2: of the most incredible athletes kickboxer. Obviously, it works like

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Speaker 2: fights in the world of M M A for UFC

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Speaker 2: as well, and it's just so beloved and I just

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Speaker 2: love to know what goes into that kind of life.

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Speaker 2: You know, what is your passion, your purpose? What food

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Speaker 2: do you love to eat? You know, how do you

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Speaker 2: how do you live your life with that amount of

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Speaker 2: conviction to get into the octagon and prove your worse

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Speaker 2: that way. I think it's a really wonderful exercise in

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Speaker 2: story finding, finding the stories and finding the psychology behind

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Speaker 2: things as well.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be judging, but you don't look

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Speaker 3: like a UFC perv as it were, Oh you.

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Speaker 2: Are we stereotype in UFC.

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Speaker 3: There like some sort of bec There are always large

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Speaker 3: guys that Gordon, they're got a neck tattoo and he's

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Speaker 3: you that you're not You're not that.

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Speaker 2: No. I think that that's the point is that UFC

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Speaker 2: fans are all sorts of people. Mark Morris also another

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Speaker 2: another huge fan, and he's he's not a burly neck

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Speaker 2: tattoo guy either, is a very intelligent, successful human being.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the point, is that you have

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Speaker 2: c for real fans who know what's going on. It's

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Speaker 2: about seeing the athleticism, seeing the strategy and the thinking

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Speaker 2: behind what's going on. Obviously they are multidisciplinary athletes and

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Speaker 2: it's like a it's like a human game of chess

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Speaker 2: really when when you look at it that way. And

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Speaker 2: so that's why I love watching it is the strategy

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Speaker 2: as well as the athleticism.

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Speaker 3: That goes on. So it's more than just kicking the

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Speaker 3: face of man, I.

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Speaker 2: Know exactly and then and then knows. I feel like

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Speaker 2: you've watched a few.

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Speaker 1: Five over there watched a few, and I don't understand

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Speaker 1: what's right and wrong, but I know when someone's nose

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Speaker 1: is bleeding, I think they can't be good.

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Speaker 2: True, Well that is true.

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Speaker 3: I think that's true. Well, from kicking the face to

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Speaker 3: no dick around cake, it's just great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Dessert Masters airs Monday seven thirty on ten and ten

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Speaker 3: play Melissa the Young. Thank you for joining us

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Speaker 2: Oh, thanks very much for having me