1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: You press record already, haven't. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So Matt, sofo take it. 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Oh so, welcome to Corona Cast twenty twenty. Boss No, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: welcome to the season wrap up of Lula Berry's Fearlessly 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Failing season three, Season three. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: So we do want to do a really positive episode 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: that is a wrap up? Or Matt's just adjusting my mic? Thanks, boy? 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Would I go closer? Yes, you need to sit closer. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh I thought my voice was always too loud. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, until we get louder, then you can go back 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: a little bit. 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Anyway, we were talking about this and this. We're recording 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: this in what we believe is the peak of the 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Corona outbreak outbreak pandemic, pandemic. But like I want to 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: say shit storm, but do you know what I mean? Like, 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: we feel like we're really in the meaty bit of it. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Who knows though, So this episode will be coming out 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: in two weeks. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I've got one more episode for season three, which is 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Smythe and then yeah, this will come out. So 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: hopefully when you hear this, hopefully it's not going to 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: be as dire as how it is right now. So 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I think the PM or international travel in Australia has 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: been cut cut till June fourteen. We've just got text 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: now saying the borders of interstate are going to shut. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: As well or non essential travel so in. 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: Will mean to go to Iron Bay. So yeah, I 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: just we want to do a wrap up and like 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: do a really positive wrap up episode. But we also 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: don't want to sit here and just say everything's peaches 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: and cream when we're literally in the middle of a pandemic. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Would you like to add to that? Boy? No, I 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: think yeah, I think that's great. We talk about both. 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: So what do you want to start with. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: I think let's do the wrap up first. 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the up for season three. 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great season. 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, started strong. So a few of a lot of 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Season three was actually recorded in Sydney. I mean when 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: I was based in Kafnu and I recorded quite a 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: few episodes and most of them were done over half 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the season was absolutely recorded in Sid's Have you got 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: any highlights? Boy? Any fans? 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: So many highlights for me? 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Watch out? 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Oh watch out? Tim silverwould Yeah. 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: So he created Take three for the Sea. I think 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: since this has come out departed from Take three as 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: at Sea, but his whole message re environmental support was 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: basically the environmental picture is that we need to have hope, 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and which again is timely with what we're going through 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: right now. And I think, like it's really easy to 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: get caught up in there the heaviness when I think, 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: all in all, like we need to hold onto this 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: sense of. 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: Home, I think, and he kind of said some other 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: and I'm not doing confused, confuse, no, no, no, I think 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: it was Tim was like, you know, like you don't 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: have to be perfect, but you just got to do 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: something for. 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: People listening that haven't heard that episode. The charity that 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: he's or the not for profit he built, is called 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Take three for the Sea, and the premise of this 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: is go. 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: To the ocean, go to the beach, pick up three 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: bits of rubbish. 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: When you're in nature and the ocean especially, you take 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: three pieces of rubbish home with you, whether they're yours 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: or not. And he has been able to cause pretty 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: big like global movement with that movies, docos, Ted chalks, 73 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: this guy doesn't stop. But he was also out of 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: everyone I'm interviewed, and I don't want this to come 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: across bad, but he was a very highly intelligent person. 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: And I remember finishing that call, that that interview and 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: calling you and going he was too smart for me, 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Like I felt like I couldn't keep hart. He was 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: all over politics. He was all over like the I 80 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: guess the geology of the country of the world. Would 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: you call it that? I suppose, you know what I mean? 82 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: He was just like and I was like, oh, my goodness, 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: my humble little human human science degree isn't quite holding up, 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, like he just was one of the most smart, 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: one of the most highly intelligent people. 86 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: What was your other favorite episode or highlight. 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of goodies. I loved that we 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: did our first ever live yeap oh, that was great. Yes, 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: that was with Tully Lewin Spinashi Sarah Passini. Yes, yeah, 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I keep calling her insta Hander which is Spasini, but 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I call her Spanash. 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 93 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: So we did that at Willow Urban Retreat here in Melbourne, 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: and we set up how many whether they're in the audience? 95 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Forty yeah, forty fifty people. 96 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Yes, it was like a seated event and basically we 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: did the live, our first ever live podcast. It was 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of work though, wasn't a boy? 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you made me wake up at like five 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So on the way to the podcast legit, 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: so we had to be thereby six forty five or 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: six thirty. Any yogi's out there are like, yeah, that's 104 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: your oga time. Anyway, We're driving there and Matt's like, 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: why people waiting for trams to trams run it this time? 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm used to coming home at those hours, not 107 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: going out at those hours. I didn't know people go 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: to work at those ridiculous hours. 109 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: It's like six potty in the morning. That is very 110 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: normal time for most people I know. So the the 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: live was a lot of fun, a lot of work. 112 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Big thank you to Willow for letting us put it on. 113 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: We were hoping to do another live in Sydney, but 114 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: not going to happen. Probably not going to happen because 115 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm more than we need four minutes between. Social distancing 116 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: is a very big thing at the moment, so understandably 117 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: I loved as she bynes too. I went to her house. 118 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: I should recorded that on the GC on the Goldie 119 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: went to her place. I didn't know what to expect 120 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and she just kind of like accidentally like subconsciously ripped 121 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: down every facade that I ever had in my mind 122 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: of her. Shout out to her incredible manager Renada too. 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: She keeps it just wonderful. 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh she's she's Bangalore bud, but she keeps us fueled 125 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: with the ashy Bye clean. 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: It's delicious. She bines was great. Like I didn't know 127 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: anything about her or you know, never followed her or 128 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: anything like that. And yeah, I really just enjoyed listening 129 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: to her and her journey and what she's about. 130 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty cool, very self made. 131 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and pretty real. I think, you know, there's a 132 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of BS, especially in like health 133 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: community and stuff like that, and I think she just 134 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: was pretty upfront and real. 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally did you. I thought you would have loved 136 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: Jackie Bell. 137 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: Jackie Bell was cool. Yeah, Jackie Bell was cool. 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: So people listening, who what's her story? 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: She's an ultra marathon runner. 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think legend Ossie legend? 141 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: Was it like younger only female or youngest female to 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: run on every continent and doing ultra marathon? Yeah, something 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: ridiculous like that. 144 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Ultra marathons for those running her usual marathons like forty 145 00:06:53,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: three kilos. Ultra marathons kilos Oh oh thanks boy An 146 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Ultra one can be anywhere between two hundred and fifty 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: kilos kilometers. Oh, Matt just got angry at me because 148 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I did this. I dropped. I've got one water bottle lid. 149 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: He just pointed me his death iron. 150 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: It's annoying in the back box. 151 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: We're just all relaxed here though. Anyway. Jackie Bell was 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: unreal and just a little go get it. She's like 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: twenty four years old. 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: I loved the story that Ian Finn I'm told of 155 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: when he was he's surfing. 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: And made friends of the sea lion. 157 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, made friends of like a sea lion that was 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: like catching waves with him. I just thought that was 159 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: a pretty incredible. 160 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: It would have been hundreds of kilos, like could have 161 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: crushed him like props. 162 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just thought that was pretty pretty amazing. 163 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: And he's all about connecting with nature. I always thought 164 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: him and Tims of Wood would get on really well 165 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: because I had them on a day apart, recorded them 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: a day apart. Obviously, Tiger Martin, we love Tigs. 167 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Teagan was awesome, actually, I found it quite fun 168 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: when she started doing accents he. 169 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Loved her American accent. She just like was like yes 170 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: or anyway, like I just and just like popped into 171 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: this American accent and I was like, you lucky bitch, 172 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: because I can't I forget to acting school to do 173 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: an American accents. 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: You're getting good. 175 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: She was seen to be evil in the Midstreets, but 176 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the bees feed and schemes are the key, very good. 177 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: These are my like tongue twist and ones. One person 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: that you haven't heard yet because it was recorded so recently, 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago, was Aaron Smart. So 180 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: it turns out where second cousins. Oh really, yeah, which 181 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: is We kind of knew that the last few times 182 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: we caught up, but Aaron knew the exact like which 183 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: uncle and like I didn't know. I was like which 184 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: side of the family. So he's the lead in Billy 185 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Elliott and he was really cool because he actually we've 186 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: sped his episode up and you'll hear this, but he 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: talked about the moment that they got let off because 188 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: of coronavirus because you know, in they were performing at 189 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the Regent Theater in Melbourne and there's so many people 190 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: in the audience, ye and obviously with self isolation, which 191 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. They did a performance on the 192 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night, pulled into the stalls at eleven thirty pm 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and told to pack up their stuff. Wow, so full on. 194 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: But it was really nice to have a really positive 195 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: creatives kind of because I think creatives are impacted differently 196 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: to small businesses because in some senses we can keep working. 197 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: In other senses, we don't know where the next work 198 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: is coming from. So it was nice to hear how 199 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: a creative is putting such a positive spin on these 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: times of change. Can I just said one more thing 201 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: that's related. Boss just got really angry at me before 202 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: this podcast because I cut his hot cross bun the 203 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: wrong way. Would you like to share? 204 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Yes? So I got fresh hot cross buns, I got 205 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: fresh cross funds, okay, and I wanted mine fresh, but 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: I wanted it like in slices, so like anyway, I 207 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: said two or three? 208 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: No, no, that's not where he said, excuse me for listeners. 209 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: He said, can you please cut my hot crossbund into 210 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: four slices? I said, like little bite size like pieces. 211 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: He didn't say that bit. He just goes cutting four slices, 212 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: And I said, what four slices, boss, Okay, how would 213 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: you like that? Cut lengthways? Yes, lengthways. So I get 214 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: the barn the hot crossing, and I cut it like 215 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: long slices, long slices. So there's four square slices. 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: So there's like the bottom bit, there's like a middle 217 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Doughey bit. 218 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, two middle Doughey bits. 219 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: Two middle dough bits, and the top bit. Wouldn't you 220 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: slice it like a loaf of bread, like down, So 221 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: you've got a bit of top, bit of bottom. That's 222 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: how you slice it. It's not these long ways like 223 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: Doughey piece. 224 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I was going to toastuff. He was trying to get 225 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: more bang for his mark. 226 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: I just one of little bite sized pieces. Are so bad? 227 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, yes, So he got real angry at me for 228 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: my slicing hot. 229 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Cross It's angry. 230 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: I was just dumb, he said, it's the dumbest thing 231 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I've ever done. 232 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: It definitely is. Why just lie it long ways? 233 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: I just say that that's not nice. 234 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't being rude. I was just saying, like, you're 235 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: a smart person, but you know that was a very 236 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: smart right. Back to the program. Back to the program. 237 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: Now you're we also released something this this season that 238 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: you were It was your brain child. You came up 239 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: with the concept, you came up with the format, you 240 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: came up with the talent, you come up with the idea. 241 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: You obviously edited it like you do all these podcasts. 242 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: You but this was completely This didn't come to me, 243 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: This is completely already take it away. 244 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: What are you doing mine for? It was Fridays, So, 245 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: I mean, like we'd spoken about doing an add on 246 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: to the series, kind of like an extra I don't 247 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: know whatever, call it. 248 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Like it isn't it called doesn't tail us. We've called 249 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: them easter eggs, like a little surprise. 250 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, East eggs are like something that's like hidden within something, 251 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, kind of like a like a bonus surprise whatever. 252 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: Anyway, but giving something because with meditations often you have 253 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: to buy them or download an app or something. And 254 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: this was to give people something for free exact hopefully better. 255 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: And also something they can come back to multiple times, 256 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: like a hundred times, as many as they want. They 257 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: can access it whenever they want, you know, and you 258 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: can download and save podcasts and have them offline for 259 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: flights and stuff like that. So I know I've been 260 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: practicing mindfulness for you know, a good year, and I've 261 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: been practiced. I've been meditating for longer before then, but 262 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: very very like seriously like every day of the week meditation. 263 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: I've been doing mindfulness for every year. I did like 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: a little bit just before. Yeah you came in, Johnny 265 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: in my job, you did. But also Jad got me 266 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: into mindfulness, Jad Patrick, and I've always said to Jad 267 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: that he needs to record his own mindfulness, you know, 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: recordings or whatever you wanted to do. So this was 269 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: my way of kind of doing both something for your 270 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: podcast and something for Jad as well. 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: And we've both been like listening to like. So each 272 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: episode is a different theme. So there's one for stress 273 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: and anxiety, one for heartbreak and grief. We've got one 274 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: more episode coming out next Friday, and I think that's 275 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: the Happiness Gratitude one. 276 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: Gratitude one. 277 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: There's one on body image that I forced Chad to do. 278 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: He didn't want to do that one. But you and 279 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: I have actually been going back and I've got a favorite, Like, 280 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: so my favorite meditation is the one that's actually linked 281 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: to the heartbreak and grief one. I think it is 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: or no, the Lost and Stuck one is my favorite. 283 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: That's the one where you visualize your safe place. Ah yeah, 284 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: and your friend gives you something and so it's called 285 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: compassionate Friend. Compassionate Friend. Yeah, that's my favorite because its 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: quite active. So some meditations are more about like kind 287 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: of like really sewing down and turning in wood, whereas 288 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: this one is like turning in were but your imagining things. Yeah, 289 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and so it's more of an awakening awareness kind of meditation, 290 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: which finally I've figured out resonates really really well with me. 291 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: But we have gone back and listened to them many 292 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: a time, have we not. 293 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they're great. 294 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: So big thank you to jad Patrick for doing that. 295 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: If you're in Melbourne. He practices in Melbourne. He's got 296 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: a couple of clinics that he practices from, and he 297 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: gave We recorded that whole series in one day. 298 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big day. And then we had dinner. 299 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we did. 300 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: It was Valentine's Day actually, yeah. 301 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: He said, wheeled our Valentine's Stadia. Matt got a bit 302 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: drunk off two red wines. Yeah, we're not big drinkers nowadays, Earli. 303 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: You know what, it's been a whole year for me. 304 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: That I haven't drank a bottle of tanglewood. Yeah, I reckon, 305 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: I've I reckon. I've had about three occasions where I've 306 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: had a glass of wine in the last twelve months, 307 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: which is pretty big for me. 308 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, although you went out with the girls, the Telly 309 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Lou girls, can't came home later than me from drama school. 310 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, I feel gratefuls. I've had a 311 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: few venus. 312 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: No, I haven't dinner with a shoot. 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: All word for Shiraz yesterday and a chartie Chartiz. You're 314 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: so uzzy, so are you? 315 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? But yeah it was nice, you know. Yeah, we 316 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: did record it all in a day, which was a 317 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: lot of fun, and yeah, it was really good for Jad. 318 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and we pushed him right out. 319 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Of his skir sign And when does he practice Baran 320 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Health and Merge Health? 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, merch Health and Sorry Hills just out of like 322 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: the city and then Baran Health in Baran obviously, hence 323 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the name. Okay, So I put out a Q and 324 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: a A on Instagram on the Grammo about you and 325 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I because we're doing this Potter Roons together today. So 326 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: do you want to know some questions. 327 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: That came through hit me. 328 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: How do you both keep your spark alive? Ah, spark, 329 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: oh fantasy. He's doing sexy eyes at me now if 330 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: you're wondering. 331 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. We're pretty simple. We kind of just 332 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: we are far from simple, boss, do you reckon? No, 333 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: but to keep the spark alive, like we literally just 334 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: will have a little weekending talkie or get out in 335 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: nature or something like that. 336 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Happy place. 337 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: But I think like in general, yeah, we just kind 338 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: of do real simple things like get out in nature 339 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: or go for a walk. And that's how kind of 340 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: we reconnect and respark. 341 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: And I think, as well as thinking about this yesterday, 342 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: as we really like here one another, we really listen, 343 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: we make space for one another. A couple of weeks ago, 344 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I was having really really bad anxiety and you were 345 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: very much with me in the middle of the night 346 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: as I woke up in sweats and crying, And I 347 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: think we really like make space for one another and 348 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: hear one another with no judgment. Oh, I'm probably a 349 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: bit more judging on You're the nicest person sometimes well 350 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: because I'm harsher. So if Matt will say something, I'm like, 351 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: that's your mind set. I get a bit more because 352 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: we are both here on ourselves with therarape bursts, our 353 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: dialogue is extremely transparent. 354 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: Would you say, yeah, yeah, definitely. 355 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: So as a result, like if Matt says something, I 356 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's coming from a place of like a 357 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: past habit or a negative belief, I'll be like, don't 358 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: you think that could be coming from, say an experience 359 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: you might have had as a kid, as opposed for 360 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: your belief system that you're in, like as opposed to 361 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: who you are, as opposed to who you are now. 362 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 363 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? It does. 364 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: And so sometimes Matt doesn't like when I do. 365 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: That, as opposed to when I go from the perspective 366 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: of like this person needs this right now, like that's 367 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: what they're asking for, so I will hold the space. Yeah. 368 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: So for you, you're like, you know, when you were feeling 369 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: anxious or stressed or whatever, I was like, you just 370 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: need like love and support, right, That's what essentially you 371 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: were asking for. You weren't really being like, you know, 372 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: i'd be a guidance too, yeah, bit of guidance, but 373 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: like I wasn't putting my own you know, I wasn't 374 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: giving you what I thought you need. I was giving 375 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: you what you were asking me to give you, which 376 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: at the time that's how you kind of come, you know. 377 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: And what do I do? 378 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: So no, you do that as well. But yeah, yesterday 379 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: you put your bit of your own shit on me. 380 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: Matt's like, this is your ship, this isn't mine. Here 381 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: he goes, fuck this. I walked out of the bedroom 382 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: and I just had really bad period pay and I 383 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: just stayed in a ball. 384 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: And oh, look, okay, yesterday I just I expressed to 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: you just a couple of thoughts that had run through 386 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: my head and I just wanted to say them out loud, 387 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: so I didn't want to. 388 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: It was also being a negative nancy. 389 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want but I didn't want to talk 390 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: them out. I didn't want to get an opinion. I 391 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: was just like, I had a couple of like negative thoughts. 392 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I better say them out loud before 393 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: they fester into anything else, you know. 394 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: And I took the thought with them and I was like, 395 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: do you know where that thought pattern comes from? Why 396 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: are you playing the victim right now? I was pretty 397 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: full on. 398 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: But once I told you what I needed, then you 399 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: did flip back into being like, Okay, I understand what if? 400 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Girlfriend? 401 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you? 402 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean watched Mark Wahlberg movie. 403 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: We're obsessed with a bit of Mark Warburg's. 404 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: Micky Mark's our favor at the moment. I feel like 405 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: if we went through a real Farrel phase, didn't we? 406 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: Then we went through a Brooklyn nine nine phase? What's 407 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: all right? 408 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: What's the next question? 409 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is probably more of a nutrition one, 410 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: but you can probably answer it better than I can. 411 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: How do you detox off sugar? So Matt has less 412 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: sugar than I do? 413 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking I cold turkey that ship. 414 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: I had to drop an FM, didn't you? 415 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: Sorry? I white knuckle that. I white knuckle it. 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: You like that? I like cold turkey too? What I 417 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: normally say, and I did say this in my I 418 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: answered this one on Instada yesterday. If you're ever going 419 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: to take something out of the diet my final Yeah. 420 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: When I was in clinic, teacher said this, if you 421 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: ever take something away from a client, give them a replacement. 422 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: So for me, I love chocolate, so I use the 423 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: I think I'm saying you like the clean treats like 424 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I make little chocolate fudgeballs out of them. As she 425 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: BUYDS ones or beauty bites by Crumble. They are really 426 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: great when we feel like we need something sweet. 427 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: Look, I think like that, that's all fine. You're trying 428 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: to like detox from something, and most people can't just 429 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: go cold turkey. But also, you know, I still eat fruit. 430 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's much more balance. 431 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so instead of you know, when I was like 432 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: the first time I gave up or sugar for a while, 433 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: I said to myself, well, you're still going to be 434 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: craving it. So I eat some fruit in the meantime, 435 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: and you know, then reduce reduice, reduice, you know the 436 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: amount of sugar intake. But I think for me now, 437 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: I just I limit the amount of process sugars. I 438 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: don't worry about sugar in general. I just limit processed 439 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: foods and sugars. Yeah. 440 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: He's annoyingly good at limiting sugar. 441 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel so much better. 442 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true. And also you move your body, 443 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: you knowurish yourself. You're pretty in tune. 444 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: I have more energy now at thirty four than I 445 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: had in my twenties. 446 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also like smoked a pack of SIGI's 447 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: a day, probably did a lot of drugs and debate 448 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: a lot. That's in my correct that's true. Yeah, so 449 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: you're a lot more wholesome now for it since meeting you. Yes, 450 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: all right, And the next question is just a day 451 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: in the life food wise, but I mean it's varied 452 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: for both of us, and I think that our ethos 453 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: is really just like, be really mindful real food. We 454 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: don't eat too much refined crap, do we not at all? 455 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Even last night we wanted an ice cream. We've got 456 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: one of those panel ones, like we'll always just make 457 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: the healthier choice, don't weep and enjoy it together. I think, 458 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: like as someone that you used to emotionally eat, that's 459 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: me and Binge eat and hired food. I now will 460 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: try if I know I want to have a treat, 461 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll try and do it with Matt. And when I've 462 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: got someone to share the experience with, because food is 463 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: here to eat the nourish, yeah, and to share with 464 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: people you love. So I will try to do my 465 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of like off the wagon days or my like 466 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: more treat days with you. Like we just had a 467 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: hot cross bund together. Even though I cut it wrong for. 468 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: You, you did long ways. 469 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: You still you asked for it long ways and you 470 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: still eat it. 471 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did with no butter. 472 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Who does that, by the way. 473 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: I just well, it was fresh from the ones that 474 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: I just want to taste it, like. 475 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Put some butter on them for me, straighten the toaster 476 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: a bit of butter, let them mount organic butter, or 477 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: I can do mic as well. 478 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah soft. I don't really have food rules, but I 479 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: don't eat like drunk. 480 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: And Matt also doesn't ever like the feeling of being 481 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: full unless it's Christmas Day. 482 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't. I don't think that. I don't know. 483 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: It's just like it's obviously my very much my opinion, 484 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: but I don't think you should eat until you feel full. 485 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: I think. 486 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: Hence why he's got this very spelt. 487 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't the body take like fifteen minutes 488 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: to tell you. I don't know. Is that an urban 489 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: myth or is that science? I don't know what. 490 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Are you sure that's sign? 491 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it takes like fifteen minutes to register. Yeah, 492 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: do we need to fact check that fifteen minutes? So 493 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: I will kind of like make a certain amount that 494 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: I think is the right amount of food, and then 495 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: I'll eat that slowly and then I'll be like, am 496 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: I full of if I'm still hungry? 497 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, but then if he's full, like last night 498 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: we had salmon and veggies and he was like, I'm 499 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: too full, boss, who mops up it? 500 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah you, Lola, that's just old bad habits though, Oh right, 501 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: I thank you very like needing to finish what's on 502 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: the plate. 503 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: Also, the food map Mates it makes is delicious. 504 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come what it is? 505 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: You are much better cook than me. 506 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, so I think for me, I 507 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: just yeah, I don't. I don't overdo it. 508 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So now I want to talk to the elephant 509 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: in the room called Corona, Rona, Rona. He's already calling 510 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: it rona. 511 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 512 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: I also don't want to be insensitive at all to this. 513 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I think we need to talk to it, clearly. I 514 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: don't think we need to go over the top with it, 515 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: but I think that it would be not fair of 516 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: us to not address what's going on in the world 517 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: right now. And I mean, I'm more interested in it, 518 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm very interested in like the impact 519 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: it's going to have a mental health because I know 520 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: from my own personal experience over the last two weeks 521 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: as someone that really looks after their mental health that 522 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: I have felt so triggered and so out of sorts. 523 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: So I really like to Matt just. 524 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: Yawned by the way I leaned away from the mic. 525 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: Now you've just. 526 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Yawned, but nough, I caught it. Je Fez. So, I 527 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: think we need to speak to just like our own 528 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: personal experience what we're finding is helping us through this, 529 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: because there's a very real chance that when this podcast 530 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: does come out, coronavirus is still going to be at 531 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: the forefront of all of our lives, our minds and 532 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: affecting our work, our finances, our loved ones and like, like, 533 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: for example, I can't go visit my nan at the moment, 534 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, like, so just quickly, like, I think we 535 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: should share like our personal experience with it, and then 536 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: what we're finding is helping us. So we both are 537 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: practicing pretty pretty strong self isolation, but we do get 538 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: out and try and support our local businesses. 539 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: In the same flip at that coin, yeah, personally, what 540 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: do you want to start with personal experience for it? Yeah? 541 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: I mean, so I've been pretty isolated all week, just 542 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: limiting the amount that's natural. Look, I do it anyway, 543 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: I work from you know, I work on my own 544 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: most days of the week. Most days of the week 545 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: I will not really see people just with the amount 546 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: of work that I have on and my workload. So 547 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: I haven't been too bad, but I definitely have felt 548 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: so just like going to the post office or you know, 549 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: doing that kind of stuff as been a little bit tough. 550 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: I've actually probably felt a bit anxious with just going out. 551 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: What does that feel like for you? 552 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: Like for me, I feel like someone's going to give 553 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: me corona, you know. Yeah, I've cut down all like 554 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: no yoga classes, which I haven't done any yoga for 555 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: over a week besides your online classes, I'll give them 556 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: a shout out. I've gone to the beach a couple 557 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: of times to run and that's and that's been it. 558 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I've definitely been feeling a little bit anxious. 559 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm naturally anxious. Anyway, this has probably increased the anxiety 560 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. The one good thing is that, yes, 561 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: that I have been doing so much mindfulness and breathing 562 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: exercises for the last you know, year, year and a half, 563 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: that that's given me the tools now to be okay 564 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: with this and be okay with the feeling. So when 565 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: I do feel anxious or I do feel you know, 566 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: panic or anything like that coming on, I am able 567 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: to go back and use those tools and calm down 568 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: because I do, like at the end of the day, 569 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: I do know that that it will be fine. You know, 570 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: it will pass in time. Even if someone gets it 571 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: around us, like there's a high chance that they will 572 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: be fine. There's I don't really have, Like my grandparents 573 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: are now gone, so I'm not really worrying too much 574 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: about Dorothy though. Yeah, but besides Dorothy, like your nan, 575 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: but like you know, like my NaN's are gone, so 576 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: it's really only your nan that you know, we're worrying 577 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: about right now. I do know that that it will pass. 578 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: That's my rational brain. My irrational brain is like I 579 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: don't want you know, sars. And you know, it's like 580 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 2: the symptoms of you know, shortness of breath, and that 581 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: would be very triggering for me. Where so my panic 582 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: when I do get panic, So I haven't had a 583 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: panic attack in quite a while, but my symptom is 584 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: shortness of breath, tight chest, all that kind of stuff, 585 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: so that would be quite triggering for me. So yeah, 586 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: so I've just been using all my tools to manage 587 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: my own anxiety and stuff like that. I think as 588 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: a society, the bigger, the bigger problem is not being 589 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: self isolated. Yes, that is tough, but isolation and this 590 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: kind of been on your own gets very easy and 591 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: gets very like almost enjoyable because you're in your little 592 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: safe space as a person. Yeah, you're in your nest. 593 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: So after a while, like you do get used to 594 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: it and you're like, I'm okay with this because I'm 595 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: safe and I'm not going to get this virus. It's 596 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: coming back out into the world, which is going to 597 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: be harder. So for me, like in the past, I've 598 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: self isolated due to anxiety and then coming back out 599 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: into the world has been even harder than just staying 600 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: home on my own. So I think that's something that 601 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: we quickly forget, where like how are we going to 602 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: feel going back into the world in a month's time, 603 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: going back to work, you know, going back into cafes 604 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: and added places. How are we going to feel then? 605 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: So that's you know, my big thing. 606 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Is you said this yesterday, you brought that up. 607 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: To yes, and that's just coming from someone with you know, 608 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: so much experience with anxiety and panic and what that 609 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: feels like and what it means, you know, and also 610 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: your brain just gets so used to like being in 611 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: your safe space, in your comfort space, and yeah, you 612 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: do go a little bit nuts, but after a while, 613 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: it's just like you kind of just get into a 614 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: routine of being being at home. 615 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Do you realize how lucky you and I are though, 616 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Like someone wrote to me yesterday a question about you 617 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: and I, which was, you know, imagine being self isolated 618 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: and single, Like it's super super super lonely. Like the 619 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: loneliness thing is probably going to have an impact on 620 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: mental health as well, Like that could trigger depression that 621 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: could figure out like obsessive thoughts, who knows. So like 622 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: for people that are feeling lonely, like I would still 623 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: be as connected as you can be to friends, even 624 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: by a FaceTime Or there's about five friends that I've 625 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: been having like daily contact with just through texts, calls, FaceTime. 626 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: Haven't I check in? So my experience is a little 627 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: bit different to yours. So like as you can hear 628 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Matt's more, he's got a little bit of paranoid or 629 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: he's got a heightened awareness around the physical signs and 630 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, oh am I going to get it. 631 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to get it. You're kind of in 632 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: that space. So for me, I know that, like my 633 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: rational brain is like we're in an age group where 634 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: we were a much lower risk and even if we 635 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: did contract it, our immune systems are probably going to 636 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: be able to have our backs. But for me, I 637 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: get worried for my dad, my mom, and my nan, 638 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: like they're very My dad is sixty nine in a 639 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: couple of months, so that that's the age group, and 640 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: he works and runs a veterinary clinic. Are you a 641 00:30:51,960 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: bat sneeze? He's yawning so much it's contagious. Actually really 642 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: good for your acting school that tells to yawn as 643 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: much as possible because it forces, yeah, forces so much 644 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: oxygen into your lungs. 645 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm worried about my parents too. 646 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Like totally so, and I know you and I'm not 647 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: talking down, but I mean so like for me, my 648 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: fear is like a big part of my workers travel. 649 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: And I was on a big international flight and that 650 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: got came like I got told to get on that 651 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: flight really quickly, and then I got told, you won't 652 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: be able to get on that flight, and I'd spent 653 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: a lot of money and whatnot on getting on it. 654 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: It was just like four days of pretty consistent panic 655 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: attacks at night throughout the day. I wasn't sleeping, I 656 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: wasn't eating, and for me like that that side of things, 657 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: knowing that you know, I'm trying to drum up some 658 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: work in different parts of the world, it's really it 659 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: was really scary for me to kind of be like, 660 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: am I doing that thing over there or not? And 661 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: am I'm making sense without like oversharing? But that was 662 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: really really hard for me because I spent a lot 663 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: of time working on this thing and then I was like, 664 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, do I I'm about to lose like 665 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: seventy years of hard work and thousands of dollars And 666 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: to this day I don't know if I have. And 667 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: that's been really really confronting. But even today, like we 668 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: were meant to be on a flight to Byron next week, 669 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: whether that happens or not, it's a PM like box 670 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: of borders. There's just that feeling of uncertainty and losing control. 671 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: That's the bit that kind of like really irks me 672 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and makes me feel super ungrounded and super unsettled and 673 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: that feeling of like I don't know what's happening next. 674 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of like where my anxiety comes from. And 675 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: to compare what I went through to Matt or not 676 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: compared us to share another experience, because we all experience 677 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: anxiety and panic completely differently, and with Matt, with mine, 678 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I was waking in the middle of the night, hot sweats, crying, shaking, 679 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of chest pain. Do you remember I 680 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: say you, I feel like someone standing on my chest. 681 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: I had zero appetite at all. That's come back, though. 682 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Don't you worry because I'm merely feeling mild stress now 683 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: because I can tell I'm a bit stress eating now. 684 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Whereas when I was in that phase, I was panicked, 685 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: so I couldn't even think about fathering, fathoming food, and 686 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: I was running like deaf and over she he blay, 687 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: kept running to the toilet. Everything was going. 688 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: Through proper classic anxiety panic symptoms. 689 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, fight orf flight, Like my body was like going 690 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: to war and it felt like that. It felt like 691 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: that mentally, physically and emotionally, and like, thank you to 692 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: all my life. I've got some really close friends that 693 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: really saw me through that like Andrea Renada Jane that 694 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: were my big cooners when they Billy and I just 695 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: think like when you've got friends that don't want anything 696 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: from you other than the best for you, that's the 697 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: stuff that keeps grounded. But I think there is a 698 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of letting go here and letting self healing happen 699 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: and letting like you read me an air meme of 700 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: our mate Crumbles page Cure Rumble, and it was like 701 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: it's almost like Earth or Mother Nature has sent us 702 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: all to our rooms. 703 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, well I think like I mean, 704 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: I've been reading all the incredible things that have been 705 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: happening in the world, you know, like less pollution over China, 706 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: less pollution over Italy, like the Canals of Venice like 707 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: a crystal clear water again, and you know, wildlife coming 708 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: back to the canals. 709 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: And and also like you can feel the humanity the oh, 710 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: Matt just gave me a real surly look because I 711 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: wasn't closed enough. 712 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: To the mind. 713 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: You can feel humanity. Like a really interesting thing is 714 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: humanity now? Is there's this big separation I'm noticing where 715 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: kindness is like people either going into what can I 716 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: do to help others? For free, and then there's another 717 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: group of people that are like, how can I make 718 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: money off this? It's absolutely happening, and it's been so 719 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch the people that are trying to make 720 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: money off other humans fear, which I am like super 721 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: super anti, versus the ones that are like what what 722 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: can I do to help others? Like we were at 723 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: our friend's cafe Chef Dave at Ascot food store. 724 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: It's called Ascot Food and Wine. 725 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: So they've changed the night. Thank you, sorry, But he said, oh, 726 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm just telling my staff, like I'm buying food for 727 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: my staff any staff that can't buy it. And he said, like, 728 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I want to make sure my staff keep getting paid. 729 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: That was his priority and I thought gee, and he 730 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: said he goes, I'm technically I'm a bad businessman, and 731 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Like kindness is so important and even 732 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: like in the Yogi world, Like not that I'm saying 733 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm a great person or anything, but like I'm just like, 734 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: how many free lives can I do? Like I'll do 735 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: all myne for free, like in these podcasts are free. 736 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: Look, not everyone's in that position though, you know what 737 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: do you mean? Well, not everyone's in a position, like 738 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: some people live paycheck to paycheck and something like this 739 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: is the biggest problem that we're going to have. 740 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: Now, I get that too, Like, I totally get that too, boss, 741 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: But like, also, holy mackerel. People that are like bringing 742 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: out products born from fear so that people buy them. 743 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: And already like established businesses, millionaires. 744 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Millionaires doing that, that is energetically you are calmically setting 745 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: yourself up. You have to agree with me on the 746 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: note of like yoga teachers, I get. I totally hear 747 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: what you're saying here. And most yoga teachers just said, 748 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: if you feel like it, give me a donation, which 749 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, I think that's good. I think that's 750 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: really cool because it leaves it up to the individual 751 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: if they've won got the money to do that too. 752 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's just an energy exchange. I think that's perfect. 753 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: And I shared my friend Ronada sent me. I'm going 754 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: to get my phone up, but it was this. There's 755 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: a restaurant in Banksy, which is New South Wales, and 756 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: I think the chef's off my kitchen rules, Colin, did 757 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: you send me share it? Yesterday? 758 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: I seen it? 759 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: So his restaurant. You go to them and if you 760 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: don't have money, they've got meals waiting for you for free. 761 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean. That's what I'm trying 762 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: to say, Like it's Chef Colin anyway, I put it 763 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: on my inso stores. I really want to. 764 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: Just I think just needs to be as kind as 765 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: we can right now and just. 766 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: As ning some people are using this fear. 767 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: Look I know for me, oh boss, you. 768 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Know his name is Colin Fast Nige Nige Nige Banksyer 769 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: Bistro and Terminus Piermont, So that's he's an Irish dude. 770 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: But he basically said, anybody that doesn't have access to 771 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: buying food and running out of money, please come to 772 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: our restaurants. We will have specific meals for you, and 773 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: he goes, we'll just get together as a community. That 774 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: is what needs to be happening right now. I'm not 775 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not having it. Got people that are like, look, 776 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: I need to make money far out. We all need 777 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: to make money one hundred percent. But like I think, 778 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: keep it donation based if you can, you know, like 779 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: and if you if you have the luxury of being 780 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: able to give things away for free, like I know 781 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to charge for yoga class, any 782 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: online yoga class I do. I'm not going to charge 783 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: for it because I'm not paying a studio higher to 784 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: do it in my lounge room. Like I don't need 785 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: to cover that that cost. 786 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: I think it's it's that kindness and all those good 787 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: vibes that are going to get us through this next 788 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of months, and especially the next 789 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: four weeks I think will be the toughest for sure. Yeah, 790 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: but you know, I know for me that I'm basically 791 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: gonna you know, lose ninety percent of my income over 792 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: the next couple. 793 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: Of weeks because of the club's shutting. 794 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: Well, nightclubs shutting, so no gigs, and because nightclubs and 795 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: venues shut, they don't pay royalties played. Yeah, so like 796 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: PPCA and APRAA and all that kind of are they're 797 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: just like the royalty societies that collect money for music. Yeah, 798 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: so you know when music's played in nightclubs and restaurants 799 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: and and shopping centers and all those kinds of royalties 800 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: that get paid, We're not going to get any of that, 801 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: you know, Like there's no nightclubs to pay. They're not 802 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: going to pay their their fees when their clubs are shut. Yeah, 803 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: so you know, all musicians around Australia like, yeah, they're 804 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: still streaming and stuff like that, but the money is 805 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: so minimal on all that kind of stuff. So so 806 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: many people. It affects so many people and in so 807 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: many ways that we don't even realize yet that's the problem, 808 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: Like we don't we don't even realize now, you know, 809 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: Like I have to, you know, go back to like 810 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: the ATO and reduce my tax liability because I'm like, well, 811 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: for the next three months, I can't you know, I'm 812 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: not going to earn the same amount of money that 813 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: I earned last year, So I got to reduce that. 814 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: That bast statement from you know whatever to. 815 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: My account wrote to me about the same exact, same thing. Yeah, 816 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: we're all in the same boat. And me like, as 817 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: part of my job as an influencer, I had a 818 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: gig booked for next week, a shooting gig, and it 819 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: would have paid my bills for the next two or 820 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: three months, and that's just been pushed. That's just been 821 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: pushed indefinitely. You don't know when you're gonna now do that. 822 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: So I feel it too, and I really do want 823 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm not coming across is too ballsy, 824 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: really like the humanity and the human kindness thing. No, 825 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm serious, because I know I can sound very fierce 826 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: and fiery, but I just I think it's because people 827 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: that I have looked up to and always thought that 828 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: are like amazing in business and stuff to be like 829 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: making copious amounts of money off people's fear. 830 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 2: I just find it. 831 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: It just makes my skin crawl. And I'm not saying 832 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: if you're a yoga teacher out there or a PT 833 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: out there and you're like, well, I still need to 834 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: make money and you're running donation classes, I think that's 835 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: totally I understand that, and I understand that you've got 836 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: to pay rent. I can definitely do you. But I 837 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: think if we can come from a space of kindness 838 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: and compassion and understand and band together, I think that 839 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: that is where the good stuff is going to rise from. 840 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm so over fake shit, and I'm over 841 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: people that are obsessed with fame, and I'm just this 842 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: this is going to separate the really honest people from 843 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: the dickheads out there. Like I had a meeting last 844 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: week with my agents Lauren and rach I hope you 845 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: don't mentioning you And they said, for the first time 846 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: in your career, Lolo, because I've always over the years, 847 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: every meeting I've had, every person I met me, they've 848 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: been they've always said, pay for posts, pay for followers, 849 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: pay for all of this, you know, like buy it all. 850 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: And I'm really anti it. I think it's a crock 851 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: of shit, buying numbers and buying followers. And they were like, 852 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: for the first time, You're like the good karma and 853 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: goodness is going to shine through, and it's like, this 854 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: is finally the time where you can just do what's 855 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: real for you and let that shine. Sorry, there's my rant, 856 00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: but I. 857 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 2: Just love it. It's perfect or so spot on. 858 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: I just think there's like so many dicks out there 859 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: that are celebrating the wrong stuff. I also think as well, 860 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: like we saw a photo yesterday it is literally we're 861 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: meant to be in social isolation and Bondai Beach was 862 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: fucking jam packs. What are you doing Australia, Like seriously, 863 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: and influences that I follow are there like baking, having 864 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: a joke and stuff, and I'm like, it's so selfish 865 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: because like you could be contracting something and then an 866 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: older person might actually die from that, Like are you 867 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: that self absorbed? Like I just there's a lot of 868 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: stuff that like I'm really struggling with. And even our 869 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: trip like that we had planned for next week, Like 870 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: my dear friend Jane was like, I just don't think 871 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: you should be doing it. It's not fair, you know, 872 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: And I understand. I understand that, and I think, like 873 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: you've really got to get clear on who you are. 874 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: And I think you're right, boss, Like I really think 875 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: that this is going to shake up a lot of 876 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: mental health stuff, even if it's not now with the 877 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: people that are choosing to play ignorant, you know, but 878 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: it's it's when it comes down. 879 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: The line, yeah, and it will separate like the dickheads 880 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: and the social media people just trying to cash in 881 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: and and the genuine people and people that really just 882 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: want to help. 883 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Other people big time. Oh wow, I didn't see that. 884 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: That was a big rant, boss, No. 885 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: But I just I just know. 886 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: I totally agree with everything you said. I'm over it too. 887 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: I'm overseeing all the fakeness and so much I think 888 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: for me as well, though I do find it hard, 889 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: Like obviously I've got music out and stuff that I've 890 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: produced for other people, and you know, it's it's kind 891 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: of even hard to you know, and also our business, 892 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: it kind of feels hard to promote things at the moment, 893 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 2: so where it's like, okay, like I'm still like work 894 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 2: is still going on. How do I promote that? But 895 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: then also how do I. 896 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: Well, I think as long as your message is kindness 897 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: and your energy is kindness under it all, like we've 898 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: still the good thing about the coffee is that one 899 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: it's medicinal and there are some really great health benefits 900 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: to it. But also you can have it in the 901 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: comfort of your own homes. So the good thing about 902 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: that is is it suits what's going on right now 903 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: and it's making people. It's giving health to people. Yes, 904 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: we put the lines made in the tropic coffee because 905 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: of the brain boosting, but it is also antibacterial and 906 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: antivirals what we need right now. 907 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: Also, we're not shoving that down people's throats. We're not 908 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: doing it. 909 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: The only thing I'm shoving, shoveling, shoving down people's throats 910 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: is that mindfulness meditation series because I think that can 911 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: help us all right now. It's also totally free. And 912 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: the online yoga which I'm doing in Dad's living room. 913 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: It's not fancy or by any means, and like I'm 914 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: just like, well, they're the things that hopefully can make 915 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: people feel a little bit more grounded, a little bit 916 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: more connected, and a little bit less stressed. Matt's checking 917 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: the time. Were already it an hour forty five minutes. 918 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: That's a nice amount. 919 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's Corona. We'll be fine though. It's 920 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: gonna pass, but. 921 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: We just want to speak to it because it would 922 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: be I think, would be doing a disservice if we didn't. 923 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: Ye, be kind, be kind to each other, love each other. 924 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: And support your local businesses. 925 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 2: Where you can if you can afford to do what 926 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 2: you can, if your neighbor needs something, or people around 927 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 2: you need something, just I think, just do whatever you can. 928 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: You know. 929 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like we are being still a 930 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: little bit all selfish right now, and I don't think 931 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 2: we've all realized the severity of it. But I think 932 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 2: that once we do all realize how big this will be, 933 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: I think that we will all band together. Yeah, totally. 934 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: We said we wanted to end this on a positive, 935 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: So do you know what's coming up for season four? 936 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: Ah, so many amazing episodes, so many, and. 937 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: We can rather meditation series, correct, I think something that's 938 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: slightly different yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wish we haven't 939 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: decided on yet, so we won't announce that. Yeah, no, no, 940 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: and then it'll take a little while to be released 941 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: as well, to say some of the guests. Yeah, just 942 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: to get excited for the season four you've got the 943 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 1: drum roll, drum roll. Miss Rachel Finn. 944 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: She is lovely. 945 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: Matt made friends with her and then started the first 946 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: time he meets her having a conversation with her about 947 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: his party pass. No. We we're talking about medicinal in 948 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: the tropics. Yeah, brain boost. Yeah, like comes like smart drugs. 949 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: And then I was like, I was like, oh, they're 950 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: very different to party drugs. As a joke, obviously, she's 951 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: like super health and like knows all. 952 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 2: About you know. 953 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: Of course, first thing Matt does. 954 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't mean it like that. We're just having 955 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 2: to laugh. 956 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm also shout out to finish she she's got an 957 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: amazing Colligen company called Kissed Her. 958 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: I think also maybe like a quick little shout out 959 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: like there are you know at home options for exercising, 960 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 2: and you know, like Finch has an app, and yeah, 961 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a paid app, but like, you know, 962 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: that could be something that people use totally. You know, 963 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 2: like people have products that can you can order online 964 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: and get to live it to home. You know. It 965 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: takes that fear and anxiety around going out, you know. 966 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's just just an option. But 967 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: Rachel Finch is absolutely lovely. 968 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: I think you were a bit had a little like 969 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: a celeb crush when you. 970 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: Met her, Not really because I don't, like I've never 971 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: followed her and I don't know anything about it. I 972 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: just thought that she was lovely, super super lovely when 973 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 2: when I met her in Sydney. 974 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: Then straight after Finch we recorded Max May, make up 975 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: artist who I have a bit of. 976 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 2: A celeb crush. He's lovely. 977 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: I love Max. He's amazing, So yeah, incredible makeup artist 978 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: and hair as well. And he's got his beautiful dog, 979 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: Frank Italian greyhound Jess hatsus. Well, no, she's married now, 980 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: so it's not hats. 981 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: Jess Walker from Frank. 982 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: Bard, creator CEO of Frank Bard, Bonnie Anderson, Bonnie's great 983 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: singer neighbors Abby Gilmore incredible. Australian director Ian Sinclair also 984 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: my teacher. We sat down with the one two Agency girls. 985 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 2: Ye are they great? 986 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: So wonderful. I'm recording with the Libya Molly Rodgers this week, 987 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 1: so there's some fun people coming up. For season four, 988 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: there will be another meditation series, but there will be 989 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: a break between those two Fridays. However, season three to 990 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: season four is going to roll. So this is a 991 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: Monday episode now our roundup, and then next week you'll 992 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: have finch yep. So okay, does that make sense? Or 993 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: are you gonna take a break? 994 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 2: No? 995 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: No, you're right, yeah, So are we're doing a bonus? 996 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: No? No, we can just roll through to Finch. 997 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: I think let's roll the Finchy. She can kick off. Well, 998 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: she'll be the bonus set pulls she not one? Who's 999 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: the bonus? 1000 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll figure it out. 1001 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well Finches after this? Is that right? 1002 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's let's just say Finch is coming soon. 1003 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: Finch's coming soon? All right? Gang meg a love anything 1004 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: you want to add? 1005 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: Boss? No, just everyone take deep breaths, do some meditation 1006 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: and also let us. 1007 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: Know if there's anything that you'd like us to cover, 1008 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: especially in this current time, because Matt and I it's 1009 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: very easy for us to record together. So if there's 1010 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: something that you want us to cover or talk to, 1011 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: we can just record an episode and kind of expediate 1012 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: it and bring it out quite fast, can't we. 1013 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 2: So please be a bonus episode or something. Who knows 1014 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: you're a bonus, You're a bus. 1015 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: Some we will mention. Someone said they wanted us to 1016 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: talk about dating dating, Yeah, and like what the dating 1017 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: scene was like, But we didn't get too many questions 1018 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: about that this week because obviously the stress and stuff 1019 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: of owner, But what was dating like for you before 1020 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: you met me? Quickly will end on? 1021 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 2: No, we can't do that. We need a whole episode. 1022 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: You know, was dating three girls? Well, he met so, 1023 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: he met me, he met me, he had three girls 1024 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: on the go, so met me. That's four and then 1025 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: we're still seeing some of them. 1026 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: Went, no, come on that, you're exaggerating, exaggerating. 1027 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: He's given me eyes and I bet you now when 1028 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: this ends, it's gonna be like, I can't believe you 1029 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: did that. 1030 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: You said it like multiple times on the podcast. I 1031 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 2: didn't care. 1032 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: No, you neither do I actually I think it's well, 1033 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: it's also good to not like boys and girls are different. 1034 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: But also like I'm pretty sure that in twenty twenty 1035 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 2: or thousand and seven, eighteen whenever, that was people date 1036 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 2: like heaps of people, like people going Tinder and going 1037 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: like a few dates, like we met where did we 1038 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: meet Bumble? 1039 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: We met on Bumble, and I remember I was like, 1040 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: almost my birthday, we will both work. We're both virgos. 1041 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: It was my birthday and I was like I woke 1042 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: up my birthday morning, I was like fuck this, I'm 1043 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: getting off Bumble no way and ping happy Birthday message 1044 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: from Matt Sofo and then I was hooked. 1045 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 2: You're hooked hook line and sinker yep. 1046 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: But I think like for people like listening out there 1047 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: that are like, you know, like obviously I was single 1048 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: for oh a fair while before well sort of before 1049 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: I met you, I hadn't let's put it this way, 1050 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: I hadn't met any of anyone real like I've just 1051 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: been having lessons is probably the best way to describe it. 1052 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: But like I'd have an experience and I'd be like 1053 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: this person's actually a bit of a douche or not 1054 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: nice or different value system to me, and that felt 1055 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: like that was happening quite a bit until I met you. Yeah, So, 1056 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: like what I'm trying to say to people is if 1057 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: you're dating or talking to someone or chatting and feeling 1058 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: like it's a bit of a lost cause, like it 1059 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: is worth hanging in there. 1060 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, would you agree? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think that 1061 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: probably just my closing on that is it's it's your 1062 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: own shit, why, Like it's your own patterns and your 1063 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 2: own you know. Oh come on now, No, I've caught 1064 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 2: like that. Like I know, like they're lessons and stuff. 1065 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 2: But you know, unless you break those unless you actually 1066 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: take those lessons on board and break those patterns, like 1067 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 2: you just do end up meeting the same kind of people. 1068 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: Like so it takes a little while for this. 1069 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of truth. Yeah. I mean, look, you 1070 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: know when when everything for me was a lesson until 1071 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: I met you, because I knew in that time, I 1072 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: was like, you need to change your mindset. 1073 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: And change up dating party girls. 1074 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. I kept dating party girls, but like. 1075 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: No, I this girl. 1076 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 2: I knew that I had to change my mentality to 1077 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 2: meet someone that was actually like good heart and good 1078 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 2: kind and. 1079 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: Matt always says on my man off, he goes, on 1080 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 1: my manifesto list, what did you write someone caring and kind? 1081 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: Does that any guys? He goes, I forgot. I should 1082 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 1: have written someone that doesn't fat as much as you? 1083 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: Is that right? I'm the fader? 1084 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 2: You are? 1085 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: What's your word for farts? 1086 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 2: I have like heaps of words for like a little 1087 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: smaller and you do just like a book? Like book? 1088 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: We're watching a movie a mat be like was. 1089 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 2: That a book? 1090 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: And I just start laughing. But I also have food allergies. 1091 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's the thing. If you're going to 1092 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: date someone's food allergies, you better be prepared for forts 1093 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 2: or books. 1094 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: On that note, let's end it on a friendly, farty note. 1095 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: All right, big love, everybody, stay safe and we're here 1096 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: as well, so feel free to please feel free to 1097 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: DM me and let me know how you're going, because 1098 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: it's been a bit of a rough drop for a 1099 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of people, so. 1100 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: We hear you, Big Love, Big Love. 1101 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1102 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 1103 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word 1104 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 1105 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of 1106 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 1: course spread the love.