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Speaker 1: Our all eyes obviously on this cyclone. As we know,

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Speaker 1: Emergency services warning residents in boro Lula to prepare as

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Speaker 1: tropical cyclone Megan developed into a Category three cyclone after

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Speaker 1: dumping huge rains on Grout Island and damaging power and

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Speaker 1: right now is the Minister for Police, Brent Potter.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Minister. What is the latest on this situation with the cyclone.

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Speaker 2: So we have a category three tropical cyclone Megan heading

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Speaker 2: towards the NT Queensland border and the Golf Carpenteria. We

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Speaker 2: have put a request into the Australian Defense Force and

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Speaker 2: they provided some aircraft to evacuate residents from boro Lula

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Speaker 2: and surrounding communities into Darwin. As we see that's likely

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: And this from what I understand, people are being asked

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Speaker 1: to do so. But is there emergency You know, by

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Speaker 2: Correct, So through the Territory Controller we'll be evacuating people

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Speaker 2: into Fosky's pavilion. There is a cyclone Watch an Act

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Speaker 2: alert extending from Ali and Gula through the Queensland border,

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Speaker 1: How many are we expecting to evacuate?

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Speaker 2: About six hundred and fifty was the number I got

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Speaker 2: last night, and that may change this morning. After we finish.

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Speaker 2: I'm going into another meeting in relation to the cyclone.

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Speaker 2: The houses out there, the new houses and the police

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, no doubt that is an evolving situation

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Speaker 1: We're going to catch up with the Bureau of Meteorology

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Speaker 1: after eleven o'clock, so we'll keep our listeners up to date.

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Speaker 1: But Minister Very keen to discuss this morning, well, you

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Speaker 1: youth crime. It continues to rage on this discussion. On

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Speaker 1: Now I want to take our listeners through this. He

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Speaker 1: He was arrested on November twenty three, but again granted

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Speaker 1: It was only after this alleged defending that he was

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Speaker 2: Be wanted to hear that type of offending that is

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Speaker 1: So the legislation allows you to be bailed that many times,

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Speaker 2: And I'll use another example for murder, you have a

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Speaker 2: It's disappointing every provisions there there is a youth attension facility,

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Speaker 2: There is alternatives to custody with that kind offending that youth.

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Speaker 1: But we've been thinking to yourself, like dead said after

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Speaker 1: If somebody who is violently offending is able to continue

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Speaker 2: Mister, I agree it is, you know, for the police

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Speaker 2: And I read that article on the weekend and I

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Speaker 1: And I want to make it really clear here, minister,

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Speaker 2: I've read through multiple sentencing notes for multiple offenses, both

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Speaker 1: I'll put it to you this way, then, do you

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Speaker 2: I think in some of those instances you have to

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Speaker 2: clear on your show before that I believe that all

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, you

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't read I haven't read that sentencing remark,

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Speaker 2: and when we spoke last time, i'd read the senencing

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Speaker 2: I think the judges have all the powers to remind

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Speaker 2: in that instance that you described without reading the full

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Speaker 1: Well, look, the thing is, I've got no doubt that

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Speaker 1: In fact, I guess that it's happening more often than

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Speaker 1: it's totally against the expectation of the community.

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Speaker 2: Right now, So we are doing stuff urgently and one

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Speaker 2: Well, well, some one will be before mid year and

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Speaker 1: Options you've changed. The thing is the way the community

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Speaker 1: like the legislation around the Children's Commissioner urgently. You've done

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Speaker 2: That's not true. That piece of legislation set of a

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Speaker 2: But I'm also cognizant that our prisons are full at

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Speaker 2: Sounds great. Where are they going to put them? Where

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Speaker 2: are the alternatives to custody? Where does the referra?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that, because I know that you

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Speaker 1: like I said, people are literally running a muck around

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Speaker 2: Yes, And you saw one of those recently. We took

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Speaker 2: We've given them that power and in some instances, people

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Speaker 1: So you're not concerned that we're going to see more

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Speaker 2: I actually think this will be a better outcome for Territorians.

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Speaker 2: We'll see more people's sentenced back to community to base

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Speaker 2: But right now, mandatary sentencing doesn't get the outcome. It

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Speaker 1: All right, I know you pressed for time, so I

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Speaker 2: So we're working through them right now, as as you're

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Speaker 2: I'm very comfortable as a policemanister that and I made

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Speaker 1: Capacity, so more capacity for correction, so that the police

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Speaker 2: Correct that's what we're doing. So that's how you get

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Speaker 2: people getting rehabilitated don't generally reoffend. And that's all we

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Speaker 1: Community, all right, quick one. For fifteen years, we know

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Speaker 1: According to Staines, two cars pulled up and about a

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'm aware of the Insid've got that on

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Speaker 2: that that's not the job of police, and there is

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to be catching up with stains at

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the safety comes through again the individuals

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Speaker 2: Policing and escorting a car is a very short stop gap.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't change the long term issue when police can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we all get that there's got to be

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Speaker 2: Well, we're doing both right, so the police can averted

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Speaker 2: i'd do at Katie. Unfortunately, it's a lot of hard

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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, I know we've got to wrap up. But

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Speaker 2: No, well, I haven't seen a completer review, Katie and

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Speaker 2: We know it's going to talk about return to work

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Speaker 1: So you will support that review in full. Is it

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Speaker 2: Scare campaign from the c LP. Absolutely, it'll be public.

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Speaker 1: Good. Now, just very quickly, I understand that liqual legislation,

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Speaker 2: It'll get brought on the days it'll sit there.

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Speaker 2: The one good piece about this, and you know the

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Speaker 2: this is giving greater powers for transit safety, public housing

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Speaker 2: But also for our small producers like our small gin

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Speaker 1: A very quick one, because I am going to be

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Speaker 1: just before ten o'clock that you know there are fears

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Speaker 1: You know, by the sounds of it, you are maintaining

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Speaker 2: So Katie, the NTPA, the Opposition, the public of call

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Speaker 2: What I can tell you I saw the numbers last week.

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Speaker 2: We had at least seven to eight palies rostered per

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Speaker 2: Tippa have a twenty five percent cap, so we have

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Speaker 1: So you reckon that that private enterprise really needs to

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Speaker 2: In Darwin, for example, every private enterprise up here pays

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Speaker 2: assurance and the Commissioner and the deputy comissioners that they're

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Speaker 2: putting people onto those shifts. But even before we change

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Speaker 2: the palis and sent them on this course, not every

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Speaker 2: bottle shop every day had a pally and that was

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Speaker 2: just done. That was just how it worked out with

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Speaker 2: our numbers. So right now I can guarantee we've still

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Speaker 2: got pallies and constables going out there with licensing inspectors,

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Speaker 2: and come June that we thirty five extra constables in

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Speaker 2: the Northern Turky Police Force that.

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Speaker 1: Have converted from Palis Minister for Police Brent Potter. Ill,

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Speaker 1: let you go, Thank you very much for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you.

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