WEBVTT - LAYLA TALKS OATS, BIG BROTHER AND GLOWING UP

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week that night. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services today. On the podcast, I have my mate

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<v Speaker 1>and old housemate, Layla Sabritski, who is back in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother House now on Channel seven. Leila is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two returning housemates from the twenty twelve season,

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<v Speaker 1>and who better to represent that season of Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>than oats Alah Layla herself. Layla has been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most memorable housemates of all time, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>joining the ogs like Tim Dormer and Reggie Byrd. In

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty first libration of the Mother of All Reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV Shows, Layla talks about why she returned, how she

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<v Speaker 1>nearly said no, and the evolution of her relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>social media. That has allowed her to have some perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on who she wants to be in that public space.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no denying that Layla and I love a laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really have been fortunate enough to keep in

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<v Speaker 1>touch through the good times and the bad. This chat

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<v Speaker 1>is super close to my heart and I'm thrilled to

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<v Speaker 1>have you listen in to what I call a forever

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<v Speaker 1>conversation between two friends. So, without further ado, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome Layla Sabritski to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I have got good game this year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my twenty first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt like it was part of my story

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<v Speaker 2>that I was going to become a housemate, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd invited housemates both new and legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>Big personalities can always tend to clash here in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Experience be enough to take on the next generation of housemaids.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has a choice, and I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>an influence within that and the.

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<v Speaker 3>New contenders out with Big Brother Royalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Shake it off, laugh, just tough fun. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the superpower, is just being able to move off from things.

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<v Speaker 1>This is big Brother high lay Love. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Benjamin, I'm great, Thank you how.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you so strange because I'm talking to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, welcome back to Big Brother. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that this is happening again?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? No, I still you know, I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's happening again. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start this by saying something really important

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<v Speaker 1>and right off the top. You are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most delicious friends that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have had some glorious terms to together. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually really interesting to do this with you now because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to not go off on a tangent on

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<v Speaker 2>all things like personal things. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, usually when we get together and it's usually let's

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<v Speaker 1>meet for a drink, and then we're still together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours later.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just can't get rid of me. Ben, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get rid of me.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I spoke the night that Big Brother finished filming,

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<v Speaker 1>and you basically didn't talk to me about Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I told you about what had happened in

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<v Speaker 1>my life with the loss of a family member at

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<v Speaker 1>one o'clock in the morning, and you stayed on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone to me till dawn, making sure that I was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know there's more important things in the world

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes and that was one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true friendship though. I mean, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had come off the back of this amazing experience of

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<v Speaker 1>revisiting Big Brother and you know straight away you parked

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<v Speaker 1>it all And I think that's true friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Ben, I have so much time for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been through the craziest of days and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the funny, old, weird life things that we did ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. We were so young, so much younger then.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard you say with Sonya, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>sibling sibling relationship, and that's exactly what it is. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a time and a place for things, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to make time for those people because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in my life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good point to make because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I you know, we've clashed with things at

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<v Speaker 1>certain points at certain times, and at times we've sort

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<v Speaker 1>of been like, oh, it's so weird no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened. You know, when we're together, it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>are the bestest friends in the whole world. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>what has happened. It sort of gets put to the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think big personalities no matter in no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what's setting, big personalities can always tend to clash

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, and like this time is where we've

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, with Sonya sibling relationship, we annoy each other,

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<v Speaker 2>we get jealous of each other, we do these crazy things,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when we come back, it regrounds and makes

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<v Speaker 2>us realize that that person is going to be around

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<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. And that's the person I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to share these crazy secrets with. Or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I need their support sometimes because they'll tell me the

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<v Speaker 2>truth or they'll listen. And that's so important because you

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<v Speaker 2>know these people from our season A Big Brother that

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<v Speaker 2>I just want them to be around. I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to know everything. I want to touch base even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's six months, who cares, It's still six months worth

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<v Speaker 2>of catching up to do. And we have the best

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<v Speaker 2>fond that's the main, most important thing. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>best vond when we're together.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well let's talk about that phone call. So

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<v Speaker 1>when Big Brother came knocking? Who called? And what did

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<v Speaker 1>they say to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa called and she said I need to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about a show. I was like, wow, a show? Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I'm such old news. And she I was

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<v Speaker 2>out having coffee with my mom and dad and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>wandered off to take the phone call, and she just

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear on the other end of the phone

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<v Speaker 2>she was smiling and she was like, it's big brother.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, oh, oh, what was completely

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting it to be big brother. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>to have a sit down on the bench and really

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<v Speaker 2>take it all in because I was like, wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know more, but obviously certain things you can't know. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was a funny time because you know, with the Rohans,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Rona, like everything was all up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's not really anything like set plans or

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<v Speaker 2>dates and things. So I think it was all a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to take in. I had to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go back to the table and Dawn and

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<v Speaker 1>Peter there, your mum and dad, and you uh to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them because obviously you know they're your people, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not allowed to tell anyone, but you'd obviously

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<v Speaker 1>tell Dawn and Pete. What was their reaction?

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<v Speaker 2>They just started laughing, you know what My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>dad are like, They're just like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn's like, I'll have a I need a cocktail. I

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<v Speaker 1>need a cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>It was out cock in the morning. She's on the

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<v Speaker 2>Chilli margs.

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<v Speaker 1>As you should be. And you know, did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that you could say no? Or is the power

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<v Speaker 1>of big brother? You know, that power of the pool

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<v Speaker 1>of big brother too strong?

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<v Speaker 2>It was an internal battle. I really had to sit

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<v Speaker 2>and think about it, just because I have so much

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<v Speaker 2>going on in my life, like it can't even make

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<v Speaker 2>time for coffee with friends at some points. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I really have so much going on, and that would

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<v Speaker 2>have just completely flipped everything upside down. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>after ten years, I've finally got into a space where

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<v Speaker 2>I am settled and I am in a consistent day

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<v Speaker 2>to day routine, which has taken bloody forever. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>know what it's like, it takes a long time. So

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<v Speaker 2>I really did have a lot to think about. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I thought, how can you just not like but

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<v Speaker 2>you just think, how can you not do it? But

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<v Speaker 2>at first, I'll be honest, it was more and no,

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<v Speaker 2>just because of the girls that I look after, and

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<v Speaker 2>they need routine and they need consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we should talk about what you do for

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<v Speaker 1>work these days. I mean, you have been on a

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<v Speaker 1>journey with your career since the show finished, as anyone

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<v Speaker 1>is in their twenties to their thirties, and then come on,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we should talk about what it is

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<v Speaker 1>that you've been doing, like what sort of work is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are the girls that you're looking after?

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<v Speaker 2>So I do community and social support for young adults

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<v Speaker 2>with disabilities. So I have two girls that I work with,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've worked with one nearly three years and the

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<v Speaker 2>other nearly two years, and a lot of my goals

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<v Speaker 2>with the girls are really to try and create that routine,

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<v Speaker 2>find stability, and we've really managed to do that through sport,

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<v Speaker 2>community voluntary work, things like that. So we've managed to

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<v Speaker 2>get that routine going. So I think that was where

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<v Speaker 2>my gray area was with leave In. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>tricky part for me because we've nailed all those goals,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's taken years to get there, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want it on do that in a short space of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you decided to, over the last three years

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<v Speaker 1>with these women try and create stability, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>went to the most unstable situation for yourself in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Ben, And you know me just because I'm creating

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<v Speaker 2>stability for someone else doesn't mean necessarily that I am

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<v Speaker 2>in my own life. Yeah, so I had to really

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<v Speaker 2>sit down and think about it. It wasn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>phone call yes no, yes see you then can't do

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I wondered because I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine what it would be like to be in

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes. Did you worry that this experience could affect

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<v Speaker 1>the existing relationship that you you had with big brother?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did you worry that a new experience would

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<v Speaker 1>take your twenty twelve experience?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, that was huge for me. I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>it quite a bit. We had such a great experience,

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<v Speaker 2>the best, you know, and I thought to myself, what

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<v Speaker 2>if I do this then again and don't have such

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<v Speaker 2>a great experience. That scared me really because you know, firsthand,

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<v Speaker 2>people know you for this show. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>really far, you won then amazing I came second, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then if you didn't have just as much fun,

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<v Speaker 2>where would that leave you in the in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people's eyes as such, like followers or fans' eyes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was nerve wracking, And I think it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>different environment going from a bunch of people that don't

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<v Speaker 2>know each other that I've never done the experience before,

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<v Speaker 2>to then a bunch of people that have done the

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<v Speaker 2>experience before had their own little process for the journey

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<v Speaker 2>as such, to and especially new Housemaids, well completely different,

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<v Speaker 2>different kettlefish. To be honest, Ben, I thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I thought you were going to walk through the door.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a little bit of redemption in me

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<v Speaker 2>with coming second. I think there's still a part of

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<v Speaker 2>me that's, like, you know what, I could seriously win

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<v Speaker 2>being on the show, Being in the Big Brother House

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<v Speaker 2>before I do this is one of the advantages. I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's always things coming. It's probably my only chance

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<v Speaker 2>at staying one step ahead of Big Brother. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be expecting whatever comes my way.

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<v Speaker 1>And are these housemaids now, like you know, you've this

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<v Speaker 1>experience is so vastly different. But are these housemates vastly

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<v Speaker 1>different from the style of housemaids that we came to

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<v Speaker 1>know in twenty twelve?

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<v Speaker 2>A million percent? A million percent. I couldn't say it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so different. Just we were like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>students sharing student lodging, you know it, noodles out of

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<v Speaker 2>a topperware container with water we'd boiled, not from a kettle,

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<v Speaker 2>bought pat you know, with those types of housemates who

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<v Speaker 2>you know necessarily didn't brush their hair. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so different. Now everything's more groomed and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more higher expectation of where the future goes. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we just had no expectations. We were just like Nollion,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing. But that's where the magic happened. That

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<v Speaker 2>was where the sweet spot was because there was no expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just really really raw.

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<v Speaker 1>And being that the show is so much about strategy

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<v Speaker 1>these days, does that impact the way in which you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to build relationships with your housemates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I remember saying to Zoe in twenty twelve outside

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<v Speaker 2>on the chairs, I just want to spend as much

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<v Speaker 2>time as I can getting to know all these aspects.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know everything about them because this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna last forever, and I want to have met some

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<v Speaker 2>amazing friends. Now it's a little bit more there's intention

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<v Speaker 2>behind conversation. It's not tell me more about your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>colors and what do you do as a hobby. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it is more structure to conversations and I'm like sat

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<v Speaker 2>there thinking, do you actually want to know me? Or

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bit more what's the word you just said?

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<v Speaker 1>The word You're worried about ulterior motives? I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think motive?

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<v Speaker 2>That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And for you, you're so genuine and you

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<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards genuosity as well as a person. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I know that about you so and it's almost your kryptonite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost your achilles heel is people who are not

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<v Speaker 1>being honest. You've always struggled with that because you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of demand that as as a friendship because they're the

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<v Speaker 1>values that you have. So I can imagine I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it all, but I can imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>would be really stressful for you in the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which you build relationships with these people, because I can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that would stress you out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very stressful actually in the beginning trying

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<v Speaker 2>to create any sort of relationship because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and it made me second question myself. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, Like, how do I level up to this?

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.600
<v Speaker 2>There's no way I think that I have got a

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<v Speaker 2>good game. But when it goes to the grudge. I'm like, really,

0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I go off my heart. My heart makes all the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was one of the struggles.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing was that you're back as an All Star,

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<v Speaker 1>You're back as a royalty, and rightfully so, you are

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<v Speaker 1>actually in real life related to Royalty if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>from your Secret and the first Big Brother. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you were not in the country when Farmer Dave or

0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Reggie was on Big Brother. You know, but did it

0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like you were amongst Big Brother Royalty? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of impression did you get from those two

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<v Speaker 1>without seeing their series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a certain sort of presence in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>without even having to have watched the shows that they

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<v Speaker 2>or their seasons, there's a presence. It's like just a knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard to explain, but there was a clear

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<v Speaker 2>divide between that old feeling of so Wise as such,

0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.800
<v Speaker 2>sat back so Wise. No, no, no, no, no, we should

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<v Speaker 2>do it this way. Listen, absolutely listen to these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>legends of the game. They know. It's not trying to,

0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, be patronizing, it's just knowing. It's just a knowing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy. I did try on YouTube as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I could before we went. In twenty twelve, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>did try and watch a few clips just to get

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<v Speaker 2>a better understanding of the game of Australia because it's

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<v Speaker 2>so different in the UK, so different, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't have known who was going to being there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you could be like, right, farmer Dave

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<v Speaker 1>will be there, So I'm going to watch endless footage.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's twenty twelve. In twenty twelve, I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to watch YouTube of the Australian Big Brother and then

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<v Speaker 2>I saw clips of these people, so I saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little bits of backstory on Australian housemates. So I did

0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.400
<v Speaker 2>see Reggie Sarah Marie with a bomb dance. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was the top search on YouTube. FITZI, so FITZI

0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.920
<v Speaker 2>people like that. So just to gain a better understanding

0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.320
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know what to expect. I was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three turning twenty four. That's so boody young.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's so strange, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this is even in the Zeigeist. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if people know this because you told me this when

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<v Speaker 1>we were in Big Brother, but you know you'd been

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<v Speaker 1>asked to do the English version of Big Brother, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the that is the pinnacle of Big Brother of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I mean, people celebrate that show probably more

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<v Speaker 1>than any other series of the show. Australia probably second

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe Canada these days. But you know, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>already been asked to be in the English version, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in a beta and I got a

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<v Speaker 2>call back. So I auditioned for the show, and my

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.879
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend at the time really didn't want me to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I ended up just being like I couldn't

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.680
<v Speaker 2>do it because we've been together for a few years

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and we were living in a beetha and living at large.

0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.639
<v Speaker 2>But yeah I got a call back, and yeah, I

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.359
<v Speaker 2>just chose not too. But it's funny how the universe works.

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I always felt like it was part of my story

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.520
<v Speaker 2>that I was going to become a housematee. I just

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<v Speaker 2>never knew, never in a million years thought it was

0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be Australia. But how lucky am I? So lucky?

0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? Well, yeah, what can I say? They need you,

0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they love you, you know, the Australian audience has absolutely

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.439
<v Speaker 1>loved you. But another good question to ask you is

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that you know, returning housemates, these people

0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.760
<v Speaker 1>like yourself, tried to improve their game this time around,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think that they and yourself tried to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to what worked last time?

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Good question. And then I think a few of

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<v Speaker 2>the returning housemates really tried to up the game because,

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 2>like Sonya said, it's always evolving. The game is always evolving.

0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be necessarily the same as ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Myself struggled with that concept because I'm such

0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.720
<v Speaker 2>an old school format girl. You know, it's what I

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 2>fell in love with when I was ten. That confused me.

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.720
<v Speaker 2>It was a bit confusing because I'm like, oh gosh, like,

0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, need to holp the game. But they want

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<v Speaker 2>to see the game. The fans want to see people

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<v Speaker 2>play the game. I know that, but it's a tricky

0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.719
<v Speaker 2>one to sort of evolve with it when you are

0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.760
<v Speaker 2>so much the old school ways. And I mean that's

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.240
<v Speaker 2>where I, like you say, with my personality type, that's

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.200
<v Speaker 2>where I would fit in better, Like it's a bit

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.760
<v Speaker 2>hard for me to be sneaky or malicious or it

0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.560
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. The game evolves, and you've got

0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to have gameplay. You do, you really do?

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<v Speaker 1>And interesting enough because you're in the house with someone

0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.200
<v Speaker 1>who you'd have been in Big Brother with before being

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a Stelle. Do you think that you and Estelle had

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>realized how different you are now ten years later, or

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys sort of fall back into where it was,

0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, in twenty twelve.

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't really speak for Estelle. I think she probably

0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 2>had her own plan. I can only really go off

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.199
<v Speaker 2>my speak for myself, but there was a time in

0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the house that I really just was like, I wish

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.879
<v Speaker 2>this was live, you know, I remember thinking it so

0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 2>many times, But not to take away from what it

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 2>is now the show, but I think I just so

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:46.000
<v Speaker 2>heavily relied on as we all did in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>We lost complete control of our positions in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of the beauty of it. Big

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Brother said to me one time in the diary room,

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<v Speaker 2>just let girl, like this is awesome that you don't

0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.160
<v Speaker 2>have to make the decisions like stop asking this kind

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of thing, stop trying to control it. And I did,

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.679
<v Speaker 2>and that's when the film started.

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 1>One of the most iconic Big Brother moments in the

0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.600
<v Speaker 1>world is the song Oats Oats Ala Laila. You know,

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and very few people who've been on the show has

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 1>their own theme song, which I think you and Josh

0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and Stacey created one day in the backyard while having

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 1>your breakfast. Because you made everyone oats every day, I

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.959
<v Speaker 1>think everyone in Australia wants to know, are we going

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to hear Oats Ala Leila again?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, this is one thing I'm not going

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to give you the answer to. You have to watch it.

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to watch. Yeah, this is the one thing

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just yeah, just going to have to watch and see.

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<v Speaker 1>I still do day ten years later, have people come

0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.679
<v Speaker 1>up and sing me Oats Sala Leila. And it's just

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 1>so funny that that's in the zeigeist that you know,

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just a part of the DNA of Big Brother.

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Because if you hashtag because someone said, have you hashtagged

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the Oats song yet? Do it? Man? It's hellarious?

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Oh? God?

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Actually, don't do it. You're gonna be like, can't get

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 2>rid of, can't get rid of from the house, can't

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.160
<v Speaker 2>get rid of for from the drums.

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Although you know it's a funny story.

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that because Big Brother was live and because we're

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in a pig pen that was next to dream World.

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Australia knows this, but we could

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 1>hear the people in the theme park, if you remember,

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 1>singing oats a la leila back to us. So it

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>was so surreal. You'd hear people go up on the

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.439
<v Speaker 1>giant drop I think we called it legs or whatever,

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.639
<v Speaker 1>and we would hear them singing oats salalela. So we

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 1>knew that the Australian audiences were, you know, were loving it.

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 1>And I remember because also it's a competition, so I'm

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously very competitive. I remember holding my oats one day

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and heard people singing oats a la leila, and I

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>quickly threw my oats away and was like, you know,

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.239
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the oats. It's a thing. You know,

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>she's got a theme song. She's going to destroy us all,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, stopped singing the song and you know, and

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>then it was like the next day they made a

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>whole day out of it, and we filmed that very

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>iconic scene in the kitchen where we made a music

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>video for it. And at that point I just realized

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>this was such an amazing thing and it needed to

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.679
<v Speaker 1>be celebrated. And Ben Norris stopped being so fucking competitive

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and just enjoy it for what it is, you know.

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.479
<v Speaker 2>But you know, in the house, that would be a

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 2>feeling like I was normal, wiser. I'm like, I didn't

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>think about it as an end, but it would like

0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 2>if I was in this new house right now twenty

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty two and everyone was singing I don't know, Reggiana

0:22:55.520 --> 0:23:00.400
<v Speaker 2>fish and chips, Reggia layla.

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>We just we just worked out that maybe you did

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>not help write that song, you know, Jash and Stacy,

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, well done.

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Josh. No, but you know what I mean, Like if

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you hear that constantly and then it's live and you

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 2>hear people outside seeing it, it would be a bit like,

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 2>oh gosh, because, like we say, we have no idea,

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and having those people shout things over the fence or

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>from the giant drop gave us a little bit of insight,

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>even though we had to pretend we couldn't hear them.

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blahlah.

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll take this out of the take me out of

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the equation with this. But when you were asked to

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>come back to the show, and you just assumed that

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>there'd be people coming back, and now people that didn't

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>come back. Are there people in the Big Brother experience

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that you've watched over the years that you think deserve

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>to have a bit of a reboot, a bit of

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a glow up, a bit of a refresh as to

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:52.479
<v Speaker 1>where they are now.

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just being biased, but there was plenty of

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>awesomeness come from our year. There was. It was so effortless,

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 2>it was just complete entertainment. And it was like your

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>josh Is, You're Michaels, you Stacy, you know, it's just

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 2>your gold entertainment that people from eight years old to

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years old, thirty eight fort year everyone could

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>relate and laugh at Bradley.

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>You know it needs to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a housemate actually reminds me so much of

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Bradley in the New In.

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<v Speaker 1>The New One, Yeah, oh wow, knowing you as well

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>as I do, did you accidentally call him Bradley?

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<v Speaker 2>But I just I kept saying, you remind me so

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>much of someone that I know. I couldn't believe. Yeah,

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't tell him who, but yeah, I'm going to

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>tell him. I will have to lame that he.

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Probably he probably already knows because I looked at that

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>person and thought straight away, is that Bradley is Bradley back?

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What did I miss the press release?

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Like it's so I But on his Instagram page he's

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>wearing a full salad thing and he's doing a salad song,

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Caesus this salad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, Leila, have we ever thought about the

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>fact that it could be Bradley, Like we haven't seen

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Bradley in a long time. Maybe maybe that's maybe he

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>was there.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Pretending didn't know me.

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>What a new name. You know, you were the queen

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of social media back in the day, Like people got

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>followings out of being on Big Brother in twenty twelve,

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was so new, but you had

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so many people and you were you were at the

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>very foundation of influences and Instagram and and it was

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>so new and you adopted to it so quickly. So

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, I want to know what's different about social

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>media in twenty twenty two, and how has that world

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>changed since you know, you did have this this huge following.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, how has that world changed?

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh? You know, I don't even feel like I actually

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>did it up twelve to social media. I felt a

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>little bit out of my dad with it. It was

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>such a big world out there, and we didn't really

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>have the get go like you know, some of the

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>newer house members did after us. That's when it really

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>started to hit the ground running. But I think at

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the time I really thought, you know, this is great.

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to keep going with it. I'll keep

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>doing my post, engaging with the audience, the fans of

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother. But I got to a point that I

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>just got so overwhelmed by it and I just completely

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>stopped posting. I just stopped. I didn't know what to

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 2>do with it. You really have to create a job

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>out of it. It's full time thing, and I think

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>even more so now it's ever changing social media is evolving.

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like a full time commitment to have to learn

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 2>about the socials and stuff. And I think the newer housemates,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the newer generation of housemates, they were a bit more

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 2>ahead on that sort of thing. We were so behind

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>when it came to the socials. We got out and

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 2>were like, oh my gosh. But remember when I had

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a dream that I didn't get in the twenty twelve house,

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I had a dream one night, really randomly that I

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't get. I only got like two Twitter followers. Well,

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the next day I was crying, I think seeing I

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think I only got two followers if

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I got out the house, I've only got two followers.

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That means no one liked me.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And then you had like it was like everyone got

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like twenty thousand or whatever, and I think you had

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and fifty thousand, like so quickly. And

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I remember having a conversation with you

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>as you decided to sort of take a step back

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>from that, which I thought was really interesting because you

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>were talking about that position. You didn't want to be

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in that space where you were selling things to younger people,

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>younger women, and you know that pressure of being, you know,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>someone for these younger women to look up to you.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean you yourself were like, who am I to

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>do this? And I thought that was a really interesting

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>intersection of your time to then step away, you know,

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>like what happened there.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I just I have a young girl that's followed me

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 2>from the show and had like, you know, a page

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 2>she won't mind me talking about her, Kayla, And she

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>had a page Kayla looks Leila, and she was at

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>school at the time, and she had posters on a wall,

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's And I just remember one day

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>being like, I have so many young girls that follow me.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Our demographic of people were, you know, high school, our

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>time at the show, and I just remember feeling like,

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 2>who am I to promote certain things? I thought that

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>generation are so easily influenced, because I know I was

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 2>so easily influenced when it comes to things like diets,

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, just the way that people go

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>on about the body image that stressed me out. I

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>felt the pressure of that, and people were constantly commenting

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>on my body and I thought, why is everyone just

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>going on about this? Why is it a thing? Why

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>can't we just move on from it? They'd be like,

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, you look so amazing, you've lost weight.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, so did I look crap before? Like,

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just this real toxic environment. And

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I could see where social media was about to go.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I could see it. It had already started, and it

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>was just the groundworks were being put in place, and

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>now it has gone exactly where I knew it was. Filtered,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>faces changed, bodies edited, smoothed to the death. You know,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>there's this app that changes your whole face. Like that's

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>so sad to me because you look at a girl's

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>face and you're like, gosh, she's so beautiful and young,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know your youth is where you're just glowing,

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and they're covering that youth with this fake face, and

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>it makes me sad. I feel like I'm so passionate

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>about this. I'm talking about it really passionately now because

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I just feel sad for young people and you know,

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the pressures of society. I was, obviously in the last

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother a bit bigger. You know, I was carrying

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>more weight. I feel like there was so much pressure

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>then going out of the house, not knowing where to

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>be and where I fit in. Now it's great because

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, younger girls are being more open about body

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>image to a certain extent, but it still brings it

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>back to this toxic sort of audience. I don't know,

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it just I just didn't want to be a part

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>of that, and I didn't want to tell people, oh

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, you know, I've just gotten three millers of

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>fillers or boatox, and look how good before and after is?

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>That's toxic to me. If I want to go and

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>get fillers or botox. I'll do it, but everyone has

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a choice, and I don't want to be an influence

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>within that.

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were. I thought you were Beyonce. I'm

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>sure you remember me saying this to you. I remember

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the second day I was in the house with you

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve. I slipped into the water and I

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was conscious about my body and my appearance, and I

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>slipped into the water and you were sort of coming

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>along behind me. We were trying to join up with

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone else. At that time. It's very loud and it

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was very hard to get involved, but you and I

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>were sort of slowly trying to get into the core

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>group that was sort of happening. And I looked back

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>at you and I was like, oh my god, you're beautiful,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're Beyonce, and you were like, no, I'm not.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And then when you turn up on this new series,

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>straight away Johnson's like, oh my god, you're You're beautiful.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And I guess this is a strange thing to say

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and a strange typrope to walk, because I don't want

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>to get into trouble with it, but I do think

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that you were just as beautiful then with that and

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's baby, you know, it's like puppy fat

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way. Like I felt like you were so

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>beautiful then, and yes you are beautiful now and you've

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>done it in the most healthiest way possible. Like that

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>weight loss that you did eventually have came down to,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, drink less and what food am I putting

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in my body? And I remember one time he said

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to me, I've changed my diet and I'm eating everything

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to eat, like I'm eating so much and

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting the weight on because I now know

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>what my body needs. And I think that is something

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that we should and you should, as a woman in

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>media at the moment, work with and you know, put

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>out into the universe because I think it's important. And

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that sort of lends me to that question

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of you know, how are you going to work social

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>media this time around? Are you going to be on

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>social media? And how is it going to be different.

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I definitely will utilize my social media for the best.

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Like we're talking about now, I think a lot of

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>your health or where you want to be if you

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>do have weight loss goals, that's fine. Everyone is entailed

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to want to be who you want to be. But

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it has to do with

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>your mental health, like waking up early, seizing the day,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>going on walks, not focusing on specifically weight loss, not

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>being stressed, not causing your body stress, because that is

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a big part of it. If you forget about losing

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>weight and you just concentrate on being happy, it's amazing

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>what happens, because I think that's what it was. It's

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>like this eighty twenty Friday. I make sure I wake

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>up for sunrises. I make sure I take the dog

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>for a walk. I make sure I get all my

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>steps in. I eat super clean foods because it fuels

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>me with goodness. I have more energy. I enjoy your coffee.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I might fancy a cake. Who cares. But it's just

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling good and concentrating on those feel good things. I

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>think that's probably one thing that I would tell women, like,

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>what's the point of focusing on all of these things

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 2>to try and make you feel good if you're not

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>living the day to day routine of feeling good, like meditation,

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>just sitting and being present with yourself. Even if sometimes

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>my brain is like I just go from one thing

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>to another, I'm so fast. Sometimes I have to really

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>sit down and concentrate. But giving myself one hour of

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a day or half an hour just to be present

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and mindful. I've started making pottery. Oh my gosh, this

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>is so round. But just these little things like being creative,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 2>making pottery, sitting there on my own with clay, oh

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, just changes everything mine. I think it's mindful. Yeah,

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you can create those little things for yourself

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and live a bit more wholesome and less fast, and

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>live for yourself and not for other people, don't do

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>things for other people. Don't try and make a decision

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>based on what it's going to make you look like

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>two other people, because no one cares. Nobody really cares.

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 2>It's only you that has to wake up and go

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to bed and be wholesome during the day. So I

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>think that's probably where I can share those little things

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 2>only because it's worked for me. I can share those

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>little things with people, and you are in control of

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>your social media. This is one thing I learned, and

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>it's taken me ten years to learn, just because I

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do posts and stuff and be part

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 2>of this online influencer type personality. Doesn't mean, I can't

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>work with brands that do align with me. I just

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>completely shut off. I was like, no, you can't do it.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>But really, there's people out there that are on the

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>same mission as me, that are women empowerment and want

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>that wholesome living sort of lifestyle, that have ethnical workplaces

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>for the people that work for the company. So work

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 2>with people. It's just finding those companies that we can

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>collaborate with.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I said this to you when I mean, as you

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>know from listening to my chat with Sonya, I've watched

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the first few episodes of the show, and you know

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously you are a very dear friend of mine, so

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't really we have to sort of be very

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>careful and what we can communicate back and forward from

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>what your experience was to what I can see because

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of that relationship. But I did say to you, how beautiful,

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, Leila, you look so beautiful in

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>these pieces to camera, And I'm not just saying that

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to blow smoke up your ass. But I think the

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing about that is that you've got a lot

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of older fans that have been around for a very

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>long time, which I can imagine popping out of the woodworks.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's amazing for those older fans to

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>turn up and see how far you've come and to

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>see where you're at now. And I guess that's why

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it. I think that's why they're bringing Big

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Brother back this way and bringing back such iconic players

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so Australia can see where you've been and where you've been.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Laila has been really fascinating. It's very interesting and I

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's important for these types of conversations that we're

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>having now to be out there.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know, oh thanks Ben, Yeah, No, that means

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot. We both have older followers because they've all

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 2>left school ten years ago so now so now they're

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>in the twenties. But you know what I mean, like

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>that it's changed, it has evolved.

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I did hear a rumor that one of the housemates

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>said to you that they were like fifteen or something

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>when they when you were in the show. They were like,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I was a fan of yours, you know, like I

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>can't remember who told me that. I've got to be

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>really careful, but I can't remember who told me that.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>But they were like someone went up to Laila and

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was like maybe they weren't fifteen? Were they twelve? I

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, is this a real story. Did someone come

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>up to you and say they were a teenager or

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>something one of the new housemates. Did one of the

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>new housemates come up and say they were a teenager?

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Twelve? I think, and I thought, oh gosh, this is

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>all I'm all, I'm officially old.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What about this time around? What is your biggest strength

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>in this new format? Like, what do you think is

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Layla's superpower this time around?

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I think is the ability to just laugh, shake it off, laugh,

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>just tough on. I think that's the superpower, is just

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>being able to move on from things.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this time around, from what I've seen so far,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is your ability to connect with people and to listen

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to people and even if they've got a difference of

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>an opinion. I think you're a deep thinker and I

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>think that you're offering that back to them, and whether

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>or not they're willing to listen, you know, that's up

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I think your superpower is your ability

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to relate to other people and to communicate.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, like everyone needs to it needs

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to be fun. It needs to be fun and lighthearted

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>because that's who we work is full and lighthearted. Do

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>you have to be a little bit of the old

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>back with a little bit of the new stir it

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>in the part and what do we do? You know?

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>But how good would it have been to have Josh back,

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Like just going back to the housemates situation, we had

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like a heavy two thousand and thirty team housemate energy

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>happening in the house. I think it would have been

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>so nice to have a couple more from each of

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 2>the series, you know, back in the day, it would

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>have been nice just to see how they have evolved

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 2>and such a core group of people like awesome, I

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of loved us in Josh. Just to make some more.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, Sonya thinks we'll do another one, so you know that.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 2>There's oh yeah, yeah, I heard the podcast.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I need there to be another three though, because I

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was talking about this with Sonya and Ben's a belle.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Ben from Brisbane is one of the most iconic Big

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Brother players, So if they were to do another one,

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they have to put Ben in next time round. So

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I've got a few I've got a few more series

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that I've got to wait before I can can make

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>my way there.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>No, but you know, but no, you might have to

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>go in with Ben. With Ben, but even people like Angie.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Angie was such a big character in our season, like

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the sky Wheatley is completely different but also a huge

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 4>character as part of the seasons.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, so many people I could honestly, it's actually

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 2>not a bad idea to do this concept a few

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>more times. There's so many people out there.

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know the reason why they have to do

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it with the fans versus favorites, you know, the newbies

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>versus the ogs, is because if you put just OG's

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in there, it would be a Big brother retirement village

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>because most of the people are so old now and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>they're like and the twist of Big Brothers. This time

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone is over the age of forty.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 5>But there's just one thing right and you know, it's

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 5>like it's all been a glow up, Like if you

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 5>look at the old pictures of everyone, doesn't matter how

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 5>old they are, right now, they have blown right up.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I have to quickly say before you finish up, congratulations

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on your engagement. It's been on social media everywhere and

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, and I've been lucky enough to

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>meet James, and so I just think it's it's very wonderful.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.959
<v Speaker 2>I never thought it was going to happen, to be honest,

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was engagementable. Is that a word?

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know I love it, and you know I

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>love a proposal, so I'm here for it.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 2>You do, I think you. I don't think anyone can

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 2>beat that kind of proposal. Real high, then, real high.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not married. I'm still not married. So married,

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm what did you just say, I'm unengageable,

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm unweitable. Apparently I proposed he said yes, but then

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, I don't know. He's still here,

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>he's in the next room. So I always say to

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>people when they asked me on the street, they're like,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>why did when did you get why did you get married?

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, isn't it okay that I'm still with him?

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you, I think that's the best thing, that we're

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.479
<v Speaker 1>actually still together, you know, not that we got married

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 1>back in the day and got divorced.

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, yeah, exactly, that's something to celebrate. It's

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>been many many years, you know. I think it's just

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the same, Samesy like, it doesn't feel too much different

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 2>in actual fact, it's better that I'm engaged right now.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm happy for this long engagement because it's been

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>so nice, Like it's just been so much calm. I

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 2>feel both feel settled. Well, we've had more and more

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>breakups and get back together than the Spies girls.

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So is that well, see if you can beat me,

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>my friend, See if you can beat me You've got

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>ten years to stay engaged for without ever having a.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Wedding challenge accepted, Ben.

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, My last question to ask you, which is something

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I ask everyone that joins the podcast, is you know

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>what is something from behind the scenes that we're as

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>an audience would love to know that we won't see

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>on Big Brother this year. A bit of a behind

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the scenes you know from the twenty twenty two Big

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Brother experience.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what no one's going to see. Yeah,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what no one's going to be, do

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? The bruises that I sustained

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 2>on my rear end, we're awful from the challenges. No

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>one's going to see that, I'm guessing.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's where those Maxi dresses come in handy. You know,

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>there's beautiful dresses. Is not for the aesthetic, but just

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to cover up the fact that Big Brother is abusive

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>these days and you've been been from head to time.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And brses. But I think no one's going to see

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>my rear riend with the bruises. But other than that,

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what anyone's not going to see it.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll have to touch base again so I can be

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>actually this happened. Well.

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Sonya already wants to come back from mid season catchup.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I want to come back to the podcast

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and we need to do a mid season catchup, so

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>we should do it together, and we should back with

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Sony because I know how much Sonya has shares so

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>much time for you and loves you. So yeah, so

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to do it. We'll do it free way.

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll do it our first three way with Sonya,

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>is it? I mean when we were in the garden,

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 2>me and Sonya.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Was on the screen, You're a you've both got the

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>wrong plumbing for me, So it'll be a fairly it'll

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>be a geer rated freeway anyway.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I love you.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I love you so much as you know, as as

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>your friend and you know now as a viewer of

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you on Big Brother being in the audience. I have

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you back, and I love you and I just can't

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>wait to watch it.

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>All unfold and I love you too. Thanks. Honestly, I've

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>had the best time chatting to you today. Then,