WEBVTT - CHEIF REECE DEWAR - HUNTED - NETWORK TEN

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for clicking or downloading on today's episode with Chief Reese Dua,

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<v Speaker 1>the man in charge of the Hunted Control Room Hunted,

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<v Speaker 1>which is back of course on Network ten this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It has actually already started and you can catch up

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<v Speaker 1>on on ten play right now if you missed the

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<v Speaker 1>first few launch episodes. My guest today is the new

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<v Speaker 1>chief at the Helm, with over twenty years of experience

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<v Speaker 1>in the Australian Defense Force and having been awarded the

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<v Speaker 1>Order of Australia for service to the Special Operations community.

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<v Speaker 1>He has really owned his stripes and is up to

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<v Speaker 1>the task on capturing this season's contestants. I mean contestants,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean criminals. You know, let's lean into that. I

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<v Speaker 1>will ask about his promotion and what he thinks he

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<v Speaker 1>brings to the top job that maybe sets him apart

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<v Speaker 1>from his predecessor. I will explore the nature of the

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<v Speaker 1>contestants this year and if he's worried that they will

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<v Speaker 1>have picked up on too many ideas from season one

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<v Speaker 1>and two. The HQ Chief will also share his thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on the new highest concept and how he's reacted to

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<v Speaker 1>the show's evolution with Australian audiences. I will even ask

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<v Speaker 1>him if he leans into the drama and if he

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<v Speaker 1>acts up to the cameras, so if he treats this

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<v Speaker 1>show the same way as he would if he was

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<v Speaker 1>like actually chasing after criminals. There is so much to

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<v Speaker 1>unpack with some fantastic secrets along the way on this

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<v Speaker 1>show today. So sit back, guys and relax as we

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<v Speaker 1>get to go behind the scenes of Hunted season three.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm doing really well, but I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious because I've been sitting here nervously all morning thinking

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<v Speaker 1>do I call you rees? Do I call you missed?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you want me to refer to you with

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<v Speaker 1>your title for what it is you are on the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I do prefer res I am Chief on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, great to chat to you about this new series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see it back for its third season,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very exciting for Australian viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. It's really great to be back, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's got a really really interesting twist

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<v Speaker 2>and something that makes it a little bit more believable

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<v Speaker 2>as a monster. When we talk about hunting fugitive, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Was your reaction to hearing about the concepts evolution and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about this whole heist concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, the initial time I heard about Huntred, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was an absolutely awesome concept. I really did. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the show has been played in the UK and the

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<v Speaker 2>US and brought to Australia you know through my brother

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<v Speaker 2>in arms Benny Owen. But I really love the concept

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<v Speaker 2>and what they've done with it now in regards to

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<v Speaker 2>season three and the bank heist, it's phenomenal. Actually taken

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<v Speaker 2>it to the next level, makes it more believable, makes

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<v Speaker 2>it realistic, and we really are hunting futuitives.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on these people that have signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for season three? Do you think that they should

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<v Speaker 1>have done their homework and watch series one and two? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Look? I think they have this year look where we're

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<v Speaker 2>tested and continue to be tested throughout the series. But

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<v Speaker 2>once again, we have some new investigators brought into the

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<v Speaker 2>team as well. With our lead investigator, Cec. We have

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<v Speaker 2>our cyber expert and cyber lead in LP. We have

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<v Speaker 2>young lukers and cyber analysts been brought on as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and the usual team of aren't a headquarters personnel. We've

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<v Speaker 2>definitely learned some new tricks, and that's what I'd expect

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<v Speaker 2>from anyone that was going on and run. Hopefully they

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<v Speaker 2>learn from their predecessors. But once again, that just makes

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<v Speaker 2>us better at our job and it makes us think

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<v Speaker 2>more laterally, and obviously we have to come up to

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<v Speaker 2>get these guys in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been given a promotion this year, so congratulations. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do differently? What do you do differently? You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's different to your predecesse.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, look, I'm probably just with my background and

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<v Speaker 2>everything like that, I'm probably a little bit more aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>and forward leaning when it comes to the apprehension or

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<v Speaker 2>the hunting or fugitives. That's what I bring to it. However,

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<v Speaker 2>in saying that, you know, once we do capture the

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<v Speaker 2>future is we make it. You know, we have that

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<v Speaker 2>human interaction again, because at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>they really aren't fugitives for the show, so for hunt

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<v Speaker 2>that they are, and that's the way I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>treat them. And it's about bringing in that mindset to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to hunt and capture futuitive.

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<v Speaker 1>And your resume, which I've got in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. But in terms of your skill and what

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<v Speaker 1>you bring to the show, what would you say is

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<v Speaker 1>your most unique asset in terms of like what you

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm a team player. I've worked with professional professionals

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<v Speaker 2>throughout my career and one thing that I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>mindful of and thankful, I'm not the smartest guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>always say you're the smartest guy in the room, room

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<v Speaker 2>and wrong. Run't So when working with the dynamic team

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<v Speaker 2>like this that bring their own professional background, experience, and knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to learn to leverage on that. You may

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<v Speaker 2>have a good idea, but someone's got a better idea

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<v Speaker 2>than you. My job is to hit it through all

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<v Speaker 2>those ideas, bring it all together, and then execute on

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<v Speaker 2>what we need to. But once the decision is made

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<v Speaker 2>by me, we get the job done.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you play favorites with your crew? Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>have people that you've got on your team this year

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<v Speaker 1>that you think are doing better than say others?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How do they suck up to you? I guess being

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<v Speaker 1>the chief?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not at all. They're all individually confident and professional

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<v Speaker 2>in their own life. You know, we've got a dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>team with cyber analysts, intelligence analysts, ground hunters, you know, psychology,

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<v Speaker 2>criminal psychologists. I don't know their job, they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>my job. We bring it all together and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes this such a dynamic team.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my friend on how massive this

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<v Speaker 1>show is, and she actually got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a sneak peek for Studio ten a few years back

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<v Speaker 1>on how it all comes together, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so surprised at how professional and how real life fit

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's not really that many television cutting corners

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<v Speaker 1>to get the show going. But I was curious about

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<v Speaker 1>the hours, like, is it a nine to five job

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<v Speaker 1>for you? How many hours are you doing a day?

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<v Speaker 1>And how many weeks are you required to be on

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<v Speaker 1>this show?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Look, so we are funny enough. When we were

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<v Speaker 2>doing the first season or season one, ifually thought we

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<v Speaker 2>were hundred sixty is twenty four hours a day because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm used to in my previous life as

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<v Speaker 2>a specials a special Ops soldier and officer, I was

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<v Speaker 2>hunting terrorists twenty four seven. You didn't get a break,

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<v Speaker 2>so I took that same mindset into the first season

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<v Speaker 2>and then productions like no, no, no, no, we're not hunting.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty four seven, I went, oh, okay, so how

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<v Speaker 2>long are we doing this for? And they see ten

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<v Speaker 2>hours a day for twenty one days. So the way

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<v Speaker 2>my mind works is I just turned around to take now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's two hundred and ten hours, that's what we're hundred foursolutely, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty one days? And I said that it's two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten hours. So that frames it's completely different,

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<v Speaker 2>and it also shifts our mindset to what we actually

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<v Speaker 2>have to do because it's quite a condensed time frame now,

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<v Speaker 2>so the pressure is actually on from the day we start.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that the show is a TV show. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I was curious about your mentality about it all, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are you conscious of the cameras? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>behaving any differently within that ten hours of filming, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>compared to how you would be Let's just say if

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<v Speaker 1>you were hunting real people, real criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, look, the short answer is no, I can't change

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<v Speaker 2>you will make out or be something I'm not. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to see the cameras. We used to

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<v Speaker 2>call it flicking the switch. Once you slick the switch,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on. You're on the job and you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get the job done. It doesn't matter what's around you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're there to do a job and hunt terrorists or

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<v Speaker 2>hunt futitives, and that's what we do. So no, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no there's no make believe in this. We treat

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<v Speaker 2>this as really we possibly can. We have cyber professionals

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<v Speaker 2>and intelligence prefessionals out there that are gaining that information

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<v Speaker 2>for me to turn it into intelligence, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>get my ground hunter to act on that intelligence and

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<v Speaker 2>capture our futuives.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was me and I was you, I'd find

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<v Speaker 1>myself sort of knowing it's television, sir, sort of leaning

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<v Speaker 1>into things. So I'd be doing my best Tommy Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Jones from The Fugitive, and so I'd sort of be

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<v Speaker 1>mimicking some of that behavior to make it more traumatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, some people do that, right. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>I say is probably one thing I don't know in

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<v Speaker 2>my past life, I wouldn't have celebrated the way I

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<v Speaker 2>do one hunt. That's just the way it is. That's

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic of it all. But as far as the actual

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<v Speaker 2>hunt and that really isn't behind the information that we glean. So,

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<v Speaker 2>just to put it in perspective, when we first get

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<v Speaker 2>a photo that you see on the photo board in

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<v Speaker 2>the actual show, that's all the information that we have,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's up to us to actually find that

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<v Speaker 2>information out on all the fugitives. That's where we bring

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the team in. That's where our intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>anelyts come in, where you know, Doc Carla carp comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and talks us about the mindset of the individuals

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<v Speaker 2>that are actually on the run, and then that builds

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<v Speaker 2>what we call a target pack for me and then

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<v Speaker 2>fashionable intelligence, and then we go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I just it's so complex, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a such a big task to do. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like even the first time I was explained about

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<v Speaker 1>this concept, I just was sort of blown out of

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<v Speaker 1>the water. And how much of a commitment this whole

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<v Speaker 1>experience is for both sides of this, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting everyone's debating about who they're going for. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you find that that conversation comes around to you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot where people are saying to you, are you going

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<v Speaker 1>for the hunters or the hunter? Like, you know, does

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<v Speaker 1>that question circle back to you a lot, and more commonly,

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<v Speaker 1>are people going for your team or are they going

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<v Speaker 1>for the supposed criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think in seasons one and two it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a debate on who you actually

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<v Speaker 2>going for, Yeah, but I think season three has really

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<v Speaker 2>separated that so because people are now saying that they

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<v Speaker 2>have actually committed a con, they've robbed a bank. So

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<v Speaker 2>now there's that clear delineation between whether you're on the

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<v Speaker 2>fugitive side or you're on the hunter side.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm on the hunter side. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that say about?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm on the hundred side. But what I love

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<v Speaker 2>about the dynamic of the fuity is did he actually

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<v Speaker 2>see the human pressure that they put on themselves part

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, And that's the realism behind this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone thinks they can get away with something, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, that human factor, that that

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<v Speaker 2>mindset that they need, and the phusical and emotional pressure

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<v Speaker 2>they put on themselves when they're actually on the run,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes to look up and that's when we

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<v Speaker 2>did them.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night. We saw some pretty fun twists with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the cast really aligned to the jobs that they had.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was interesting with one of the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>deb she was able to reference her father who was

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<v Speaker 1>a real criminal, Gary Good or Good I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how to pronounce you curtain, but I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was really genius in the way in which we see

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<v Speaker 1>how this show comes together, because that's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>person to cast on the show. Did you know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about the real life Australian criminal Gary Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Look? Initially, no, we didn't. And now I go back

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<v Speaker 2>to that investigative piece. Is that, you know, once we

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<v Speaker 2>get the name of an individual, then we dig into

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<v Speaker 2>their past, you know, giving given the powers from the

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<v Speaker 2>state that we have or we've replicated as part of

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<v Speaker 2>the show. And I always make the mention that we

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<v Speaker 2>have an umpire that's above us who is a former

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<v Speaker 2>assistant police commissioner, and he made sure that we are

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<v Speaker 2>bide by the walls. So everything that we have we

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<v Speaker 2>do on the show is replicated a normal or a

0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.120
<v Speaker 2>real live law enforcement a chase or hunt. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to submit warrants and everything like that. So when we

0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.920
<v Speaker 2>were going through Dead's background, that's when we uncovered that

0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.839
<v Speaker 2>her dad was actually a safe cracker, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time so I really did put an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>stin on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she use any of her father's tactics? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he did go to jail but in the end, But

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<v Speaker 1>did she then borrow some of the things that her

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<v Speaker 1>father must have done? I mean that would have been fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Look, I think it's one of those things. And

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<v Speaker 2>the funny thing about the human side of it is

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she wanted to experience what that feeling, that anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>that pressure that maybe her father sel when he was

0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.320
<v Speaker 2>actually doing live Johns himself, I know, you know my

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<v Speaker 2>reactions to a live job and what we're doing now

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, they are mimicked similar feelings and emotions,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's quite real for the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are doing it. Whether you're a hunter or your futuitive,

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<v Speaker 2>it's emotionally real.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of finding out that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Joker or the penguin's daughter, you know, involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this process.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if you're dealing with the Joker in

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<v Speaker 2>the Penguin, that means I'm batman.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you're fine with that. What I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about was the fact that you now

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<v Speaker 1>have been through this process and you've seen these contestants

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<v Speaker 1>applying and getting onto this show and saving a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a sense from doing the show as

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<v Speaker 1>to which state has better criminals?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually that's a really good question. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the people that actually come on the show are quite

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<v Speaker 2>ingenious in some ways. You know, they are thinking outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the box, and that's what forces us to think

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the box as well. And I think, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I think it's Australian nature, right, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where I think, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>criminal around the world and the criminal mindset. You know,

0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:34.400
<v Speaker 2>we're a country of convicts, you know, if we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go back that far, you know. So I think

0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.520
<v Speaker 2>it is in our nature. It's it's Australian's nature to

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<v Speaker 2>push the limits and push law enforcement. But unfortunately, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement wins overall generally.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time, maybe the criminal and all of us

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe I mean, I'm just I'm thinking of my

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<v Speaker 1>feet here, but I'm thinking whether or not people watch

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<v Speaker 1>this show and think I could be a criminal, Like

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<v Speaker 1>not that they show is inspiring people to be criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not the purpose, But I wonder whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it does make I think about it, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think you know, there's a lot of TV shows, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on movies that are out there. I'm sure that it

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<v Speaker 2>does spark a little bit of intuitivenessing people to think

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<v Speaker 2>that they can actually go and do something. But the

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<v Speaker 2>reality is it's a lot harder when you're actually in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment doing the crime. Like you know, you saw

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<v Speaker 2>the emotion and the feeling of some of the fugitives

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<v Speaker 2>when they are actually robbing the bank, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they get in the car and they're actually exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the emotional toll. So yeah, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting dynamic. I love being part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, did you think that these people did a good

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<v Speaker 1>job of robbing the bank though? Like, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching last night. I was like, Okay, some of

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>these people are doing a really good job, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>were you surprised, well they were able to achieve what

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<v Speaker 1>they did?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Credit? Where credits you When you get a bunch

0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.480
<v Speaker 2>of you know, amateur bank robbers trying to rob a

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<v Speaker 2>bankming up with the plan and then executing on that.

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<v Speaker 2>They did the best that they could with the tools

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<v Speaker 2>that they had knowledge they had, So yeah, cut us

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<v Speaker 2>to them, but it's not going to help them the

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<v Speaker 2>long run, We're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To catch it's good mentality. The game, I guess of

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter has only really just begun for us. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as an audience, do you think that this year we

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<v Speaker 1>will see the most skilled contestants? Like are you preparing

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<v Speaker 1>yourself for the hardest battle yet? Or what is the

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<v Speaker 1>what's your mentality to this at the moment? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, great question Again, then it's my mindset has to

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<v Speaker 2>be different every time, so they are learning as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the contestants this year may give us

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<v Speaker 2>a one for our money. That doesn't mean they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the end of the line because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do everything in my power to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they do not get to the extraction point. But

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely think, yeah, they've bought their ow game.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think this is not a spoiler? Ether because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to say any names, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you started out and you put these people's faces and

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<v Speaker 1>names up on the board, do you predict who was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be good and who was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>bad at this game? Did you have a feeling just

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<v Speaker 1>from being able to see the stats right at the

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<v Speaker 1>start who is going to be a better criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Look not right at the start. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>realism of what is so realistic about this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we literally do get a picture and name and where

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<v Speaker 2>the person is from what state. What happens then is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we use our cyber analysts and our intelligence personnel

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<v Speaker 2>to do with those backstories and those networks that they have,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that's when we actually start getting a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an impression on who these sugities are, what their

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<v Speaker 2>skill sets are, what their backgrounds are, and then I

0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.120
<v Speaker 2>can actually narrow it down and say, right, yeah, you know,

0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.800
<v Speaker 2>suturey pair AE may give us a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>run for their money because of their background. So an

0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 2>example of that is if I see or we hear

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<v Speaker 2>of any law enforcement personnel, any emergency service work, is

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<v Speaker 2>people like that that actually spice my interest because I

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<v Speaker 2>know they've got skill sets, I know they've got a background,

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<v Speaker 2>and generally speaking, I know the training they've done to

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<v Speaker 2>get into those services. So yeah, that's probably the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that sparked my interest when I hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you give them any feedback at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this on what we could do for season four? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you go Okay, the heighst was good. The Robney O

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<v Speaker 1>this is great, But I reckon we should do this, like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you allowed to give you know, the people, the

0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.879
<v Speaker 1>powers that be some you know, some insights or some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas for what we could do next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think it's going to be bigger and better.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm going to say to that. There's always,

0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, more we can do. And look, there's so

0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.000
<v Speaker 2>many distant scenarios out there that we can use as

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<v Speaker 2>part of a part of hunting. And I'll did say

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<v Speaker 2>seat and four we all knock it up another knos

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>My last question is something I ask everybody who joins

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. What is something from behind the scenes, something

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that we as an audience wouldn't get a chance to see.

0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.560
<v Speaker 1>What's up behind the scenes, secret that you like to

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<v Speaker 1>get out when you're sitting around the dinner table, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're with your friends, what do you tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, mallam Dan, I'm drink a lot of tea.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of tea. Okay, then you spill a lot

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.239
<v Speaker 1>of tea about how the show is made. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go because.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a lot of discussions around.

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<v Speaker 1>The cup of tea. I am so fascinated by this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you so much for taking the time and

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<v Speaker 1>being so generous and talking to me today. I am

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.880
<v Speaker 1>on the hunt with you guys and watching it with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and I look forward to talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you next year. And you're trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle up some more criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks, thanks you, saying man nowhere is at all