Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. They're right. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading on today's episode. Sorry, I've been
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a break. I'm up here
Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast. You might be able to hear
Speaker 1: some of the birds actually in the background because I've
Speaker 1: been podcasting outside. But anyway, guys, today's guest is Lexi Dyer.
Speaker 1: She is one of the cast of Ossie Shaw, a
Speaker 1: series that will polarize the audience. But don't judge me,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little obsessed. Lexi already had a
Speaker 1: serious tie to reality television. And if you're a Big
Speaker 1: Brother super fan like I am, you would know Paul
Speaker 1: her father for his very dramatic conversation with Merlin in
Speaker 1: Big Brother back in two thousand and four. As a treat,
Speaker 1: we will get Paul into this call. And I have
Speaker 1: to confess I'm a little bit tall. I'm way too
Speaker 1: excited to be getting poll in here. Ozzie Shaw is
Speaker 1: the spinoff from Geordie Shaw and Jersey Shaw, and while
Speaker 1: it's taken Australia a long time to get here. I
Speaker 1: think the weight has been worth it. The production quality
Speaker 1: and the pacing of the show is phenomenal. I'm actually
Speaker 1: more prutish than people would think, but I've found it
Speaker 1: entertaining to sort of dip back into my youth and
Speaker 1: live very vicariously through these young people. I will ask
Speaker 1: about the casting process, how you get picked for a
Speaker 1: show like this, and how long of your life you
Speaker 1: have to give up to fly to Cans and be
Speaker 1: a part of this kind of monstrosity. You will get
Speaker 1: to hear us unpack the relationship with Lexi and her father,
Speaker 1: what she borrowed from her dad from his time on
Speaker 1: reality television, what he thought of her following in his footsteps,
Speaker 1: and if they will actually watch this show together. We
Speaker 1: will even find out who were the easiest to get
Speaker 1: along with, whether it was the boys or the girls. Plus,
Speaker 1: I will ask about the possibility of a season two.
Speaker 1: I will even be cheeky enough to ask who she
Speaker 1: would like to see cut from the cast if they
Speaker 1: do come back for the next series. There's actually so
Speaker 1: much to unpack with my guests today. There is some
Speaker 1: fantastic secrets along the way. So sit back and relax.
Speaker 1: As we unpack Ozzie Shaw the most bonkers reality TV
Speaker 1: show today. So LEXI, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm ben, I'm very well. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. You're about to actually sit down
Speaker 1: today and watch the first few episodes, which I've actually seen,
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit nervous about what you're about
Speaker 1: to see. Well, what is going through your mind right now?
Speaker 2: God, that makes me nervous. I am hummed. I've been
Speaker 2: waiting for this moment. I'm just ready to see all
Speaker 2: the chaos unfold, but definitely a little bit nervous to
Speaker 2: see everything that we all did.
Speaker 1: I think that you have as much to be worried
Speaker 1: about as some of the others. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: say that not eating jelly shots out of people's bumhole,
Speaker 1: So that's fine. I yeah, you get to see that.
Speaker 1: That's going to be very for those people. What had you?
Speaker 1: I think you're an absolute star on this show. You
Speaker 1: do come in on episode two, so I hope you
Speaker 1: ways stick around to see you come into the show
Speaker 1: because the immediacy of you coming in really shakes up
Speaker 1: the dynamic.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wanted to bring in some spye that I
Speaker 2: wanted to eight things up, So I was happy I
Speaker 2: got to go when there at nighttime, whenever I was
Speaker 2: least expecting.
Speaker 1: It with some shots.
Speaker 2: Oh this shot for a musk. Wasn't going to walk
Speaker 2: into the house empty handed.
Speaker 1: Have you watched any of the other shows? Had you
Speaker 1: watched Jersey Shore, Jordie Shore? Did you watched any of
Speaker 1: those as sort of preparation as to what was kind
Speaker 1: of expected of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see some of the early seasons of
Speaker 2: Geordie Shaw, which obviously you've seen it. It's just chaotic,
Speaker 2: it's messy. It's just just a hot mess. And I
Speaker 2: think that I think we've done it justice, probably a
Speaker 2: bit more messy, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Did you have any clear about Charlotte Crosby, because, like
Speaker 1: I was expecting her to sort of be a part
Speaker 1: of the cast, like some sort of older person hanging
Speaker 1: on trying to, you know, relive her youth. But she's
Speaker 1: kind of like the boss.
Speaker 2: She came in very lar. She comes in and wakes
Speaker 2: us up, and it was an absolute shock. I obviously
Speaker 2: knew who she was because it's Charlotte, but it was wild.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to step back a little bit and
Speaker 1: ask you about this plastic process. How do you get
Speaker 1: cast on a show like this? Were you just surfing
Speaker 1: down at Jen Juck? Were you getting your hair done
Speaker 1: in Ringwood? I don't know what was going on. How
Speaker 1: did you get picked?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I was doing, but I
Speaker 2: remember I just got reached out to by one of
Speaker 2: the production and was like, hey, you fit this type
Speaker 2: of show. And I was like, Oh, I've fit this
Speaker 2: type of show, Get me on there.
Speaker 1: But what was the audition process? Like? So you get
Speaker 1: asked to, you know, do a zoom chat or something.
Speaker 1: What do you have to try? And because I'd be
Speaker 1: worried that interview you and and you wouldn't know what
Speaker 1: you'd turn up and do on the show, like you're
Speaker 1: going to be the sort of chick that's going to
Speaker 1: get wild. What was that process like when they started
Speaker 1: asking you questions but they like do you take your
Speaker 1: top off in a bar? Do you are you the
Speaker 1: type of chick to buy shots for people? What was
Speaker 1: that process?
Speaker 2: Like? I mean the audition process, it was actually like
Speaker 2: I loved it. I wasn't nervous at all because I
Speaker 2: thought that I just got to be myself and I
Speaker 2: think that they're either going to love it or eive it.
Speaker 2: And I mean I suppose they loved it, but it
Speaker 2: was funny with all the questions. You just got to
Speaker 2: be yourself. And I think that any room I'm in
Speaker 2: I like to bring the card, so it's probably why
Speaker 2: they chose me.
Speaker 1: I think they also chose you because you're the type
Speaker 1: of chick that I think sets the cat amongst the pigeons,
Speaker 1: like you do come in on episode two, which means
Speaker 1: that everyone sort of gets to understand people a little
Speaker 1: bit better. But then when you come in, I think
Speaker 1: that the girls are kind of a little bit jealous
Speaker 1: of you. The boys are all completely they all want
Speaker 1: to peace. How did you cope with being a late
Speaker 1: com up? Did that make it harder for you or easier?
Speaker 2: I low Keen loves coming in late, Like I wanted
Speaker 2: to shape things up as soon as I got in there,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to again bring that spice, So I
Speaker 2: mean coming in late was a bit of fund to me,
Speaker 2: to be honest, Did.
Speaker 1: You connect with the boys or the girls easier?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What was what was easier for you?
Speaker 2: Honestly, connecting with the boys was definitely easier. In the
Speaker 2: first twenty four hours. I think that they sort of
Speaker 2: took me under their wings straight away, and I felt
Speaker 2: very comfortable, so I gravitated towards them.
Speaker 1: I could already see that the girls were sort of
Speaker 1: standing aside and passing comment of you on you Did
Speaker 1: you find it that you noticed that they were doing
Speaker 1: that and was it part of the sort of work
Speaker 1: backwards and gain their trust.
Speaker 2: I feel like they were definitely stand office for sure.
Speaker 2: I think that there was kind of the not cold,
Speaker 2: but it was just, you know, they didn't really put
Speaker 2: me under their wing as much as I would have liked,
Speaker 2: So I kind of just did my own thing, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't need to kiss it in
Speaker 2: anyone's pockets, so kind of waited them to come to
Speaker 2: me in a way.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how much how many of my
Speaker 1: listeners are going to know this, but I think they're
Speaker 1: going to love it based on some of my backstory.
Speaker 1: But your dad is actually quite famous and famous for
Speaker 1: reality television. What yes, your dad was on Big Brother
Speaker 1: series four, which was one of the highest rating series
Speaker 1: of Big Brother that ever happened. It was huge. What
Speaker 1: did your dad think of you saying against to doing
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 2: Oh? He was absolutely stoked. It was all four. I
Speaker 2: think it was more excited.
Speaker 1: Than I was, to be honest, Well, we have your
Speaker 1: dad here, which I think people going to be very
Speaker 1: excited about.
Speaker 3: Paul.
Speaker 1: How are you, mate, I'm very well Ben.
Speaker 2: How are you, buddy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny listening to this. It's you know, when
Speaker 3: she was up there filming, there's not so long. I
Speaker 3: was celebrating twenty years gone by since Big Brother, you know,
Speaker 3: rolled through, and that twenty years has gone pretty fast.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's blowing my mind a bit because now
Speaker 3: I'm fifty one and I was thirty one back in
Speaker 3: the house. So now it's Lexi's turn. Mate, I've handed
Speaker 3: the bat and over, so to speak.
Speaker 1: You know the best thing about this is, and I've
Speaker 1: been very public and people who listen to the podcast
Speaker 1: will know this about me, but you're, in fact my
Speaker 1: favorite Big Brother contestant that was ever shown. So I know.
Speaker 3: May you told me that when I met you a
Speaker 3: few times, and and you were one of mine too,
Speaker 3: So the feeling is pretty mutual there, mate, And I
Speaker 3: think it's because we went in there with the same
Speaker 3: sort of game plan. It was very different back in
Speaker 3: our day, but there had to be a lot of manipulating.
Speaker 2: And how's this.
Speaker 3: We've got three manipulators on the one phone together. This
Speaker 3: is incredible?
Speaker 1: Is that true? Thing? Oh?
Speaker 2: Ok? And Dad's worse than I am.
Speaker 1: Knowing Paul as well as I do, I know that
Speaker 1: he would have given you some advice that probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have come out of the usual pocket of a parent.
Speaker 1: What did he say to you before you took flight
Speaker 1: and flew up to cams?
Speaker 2: Honestly, he just like told me to be myself and
Speaker 2: just own every single thing I do. Like, I think
Speaker 2: that being able to say up to myself comes from,
Speaker 2: you know, my parents, And I think that if I
Speaker 2: was ever in a situation to just like hold my ground,
Speaker 2: and I think that he said, don't be afraid to
Speaker 2: show every single emotion. So I went in there and
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: give it my all and knew that they'd be backing me.
Speaker 1: Did you find at any point that you felt like
Speaker 1: you were emulating your dad? I mean, I can imagine
Speaker 1: you may have watched some of your dad's time on
Speaker 1: Big Brother. Did you find yourself at some points thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a bit of my dad's coming out
Speaker 1: of me today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my dad's constantly coming out of me.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think I was being, you know,
Speaker 2: a bit of a shitter here and they're just taking
Speaker 2: the piece, probably laughing when I've been. So that's definitely
Speaker 2: where dad comes out of me.
Speaker 3: And then just wait to hear some of the language.
Speaker 3: Like I grew I grew up with baby boomer parents, mate,
Speaker 3: and I swore to myself when I had children, I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to put myself through the same strict routine
Speaker 3: that myles put me through, with nose swearing and bowl
Speaker 3: haircuts and all that shit. So I said, Alexi, as
Speaker 3: you grow up, as long as you respect me, you
Speaker 3: can say whatever you like to him. You can't call
Speaker 3: me whatever you like, but we can talk how we
Speaker 3: like to each other, to express ourselves. And that's pretty
Speaker 3: much how I raised the kids. But as you said,
Speaker 3: made it was a bit different, not for every parent,
Speaker 3: you know, and sometimes it does backfire because you know,
Speaker 3: you get yourselves into trouble and people think you're disrespectful
Speaker 3: because you're you're friends with your kids and all that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. But you know, there's no script in life.
Speaker 3: Ben and you know that, and we are what we
Speaker 3: are and I'll bloody bring the kids up whoever I want.
Speaker 3: And look, I'm pretty happy with the way she's turned out.
Speaker 3: She's an absolute quaint.
Speaker 1: Were you worried about this? Yeah, I love that. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to jump in over the top of that. I
Speaker 1: think that's so great that you both have that relationship.
Speaker 1: But were you worried about the salaciousness of this sort
Speaker 1: of programming? Because some people are already coming out and saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this is so bold and it's so outrageous.
Speaker 1: You know, how does it find itself with a place
Speaker 1: on television? What do you think about the salaciousness of
Speaker 1: this style of show?
Speaker 3: It's a massive word for starters for a tradeing ben,
Speaker 3: But look, I think I know what you're asking me,
Speaker 3: And to be honest, it's I don't mind it whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Like I get off on sort of funny, filthy TV,
Speaker 3: you know, language fighting. You know, I love triangleause I
Speaker 3: love all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's entertaining.
Speaker 3: And if you don't want to watch it, if you
Speaker 3: don't like that stuff, you don't watch it. But I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what, I've got my parents on one side,
Speaker 3: they're not really mentioning much about it, and they know
Speaker 3: all about it, and you know, so I'm going to
Speaker 3: be I'm going to be seeing both sides because my
Speaker 3: parents couldn't believe that I went on Big Brother, and
Speaker 3: I think they are a little bit disgusted with what
Speaker 3: they saw. So wait til they say, little Princess Lexi
Speaker 3: running the mark.
Speaker 1: Well, it took them twenty years to get over you
Speaker 1: being on television, and now we've got the next generation,
Speaker 1: so they've now got this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm worried this. I'm worried this could finish them off.
Speaker 1: Man, Lexie, I want to know, like, are you ever
Speaker 1: going to watch an episode of this show with your dad?
Speaker 1: Like are you and Paul going to sit down at
Speaker 1: any point to watch it? Because I just knowing the
Speaker 1: relationship that the two of you had, I had that
Speaker 1: lens watching it myself, and I was thinking, I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone wants to sit down with their parents
Speaker 1: that watch this this show, let alone be in it.
Speaker 2: And I mean, it's not like the most comfortable show
Speaker 2: to probably watch with my parents. But I think that
Speaker 2: we've grown up in an open household. They know everything
Speaker 2: about my life, so I think that I'll probably just
Speaker 2: walk out the room if there's a bit where I
Speaker 2: don't really want to be sitting in the same room
Speaker 2: as and while they're watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll walk out following and with my phone
Speaker 3: and put it on me TikTok.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk to you about this because
Speaker 1: you know, Paul, you have become a TikTok sensation. I
Speaker 1: mean that both of you have such a huge following.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the reason why people are so
Speaker 1: compelled to watch your stories has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the openness of the relationship that you both have.
Speaker 3: On our TikTok fans. Yeah, I suppose we do. You
Speaker 3: occasionally get a little bit of heat sort of saying, oh,
Speaker 3: that guy hangs around young girls. Well, of course I do,
Speaker 3: because I live with them. She's my daughter and she
Speaker 3: brings friends around. So look, I'm not making any apologies
Speaker 3: for getting on with her and her mates. Like you
Speaker 3: mentioned before about Charlotte, shut Charlotte or someone trying to
Speaker 3: relive their youth. Well, I did look down when you
Speaker 3: said that, because that that is may. I don't think
Speaker 3: I'm grown up yet then I'm fifty one. It's funny
Speaker 3: your body gets older, but your soul and your mind
Speaker 3: and everything stays exactly the same as it was when
Speaker 3: you're a kid.
Speaker 2: Dad, you've definitely not grown up.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm more your parent than your mine, I reckon, Well.
Speaker 3: You know, we're getting to that stage lex where you
Speaker 3: will have to start wife in my ass soon.
Speaker 2: I'll do that for your dad, don't you worry.
Speaker 3: No, no, I can watch it do true.
Speaker 1: So, Lexie, I think that's what's really interesting about your
Speaker 1: relationship with your dad is that you know, this will
Speaker 1: could this could be the first time that he's a
Speaker 1: bit embarrassed about something that you've done. Have you did
Speaker 1: you grow up feeling a little bit embarrassed about Paul Beans,
Speaker 1: you know, quite well known and being on radio and
Speaker 1: being on television, Like, what did you think growing up?
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it, I think because you can just
Speaker 2: see how natural it is for him. I think he
Speaker 2: was also born to, you know, do this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: That's why I always wanted to follow in his footsteps.
Speaker 2: And I think that he owns it. And I think
Speaker 2: that he's so good, you know, being in the public
Speaker 2: eye as well. And I think Australia loved him on
Speaker 2: big Brother for a reason, and I think that, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's just born for it.
Speaker 1: Everyone sort of very fresh as well with this season.
Speaker 1: This cast is very fresh, and we don't get to
Speaker 1: see Callum Hoole until like the last two episodes. Does
Speaker 1: he come in too late? How does he go with
Speaker 1: coming into this show so late in the game.
Speaker 2: I don't think Callum had any issues coming in as
Speaker 2: late as you did. I think that yeah, he again,
Speaker 2: he owned it as soon as he walked in the doors.
Speaker 2: And I think that you'll see that exactly when you
Speaker 2: guys are watching it, and a.
Speaker 1: Little tease to sort of maybe what is to be
Speaker 1: expected if we roll into a series two and they
Speaker 1: bring you all back? Is there anyone on the show
Speaker 1: that you'd like to see not return?
Speaker 2: Not return? Oh? No, I honestly I love everyone and
Speaker 2: I think that everyone everyone brings something different and I
Speaker 2: think it wouldn't be the same without us all. So
Speaker 2: I think I think everyone there is just it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be complete if someone wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Are they talking to about a series two at this point?
Speaker 1: Are they just waiting to see how it goes?
Speaker 2: It's hopeful, but we are waiting to see.
Speaker 1: How it goes, and I mean, how long are you
Speaker 1: giving up your life to do this? I mean to
Speaker 1: go up to Cans and film this first series? How
Speaker 1: long were you there for?
Speaker 2: Here? For about like five six weeks?
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, it's a decent amount of time to
Speaker 1: give up to go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I was absolutely loving every single second
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: And I guess the most important question to ask you
Speaker 1: about this show is with Made in BONDI a lot
Speaker 1: of the semi scripted realities, are we actually watching real
Speaker 1: people find relationships? Are these relationships that we're seeing on
Speaker 1: the show real or are they kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit massage for TV?
Speaker 2: This is the most realist as it gets. It was
Speaker 2: not scripted at all. It was just you are chaofs
Speaker 2: raw emotion and yeah, every second was just real and raw.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, everyone who joins the podcast, I get
Speaker 1: asked a question about what's something from behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: And I'm curious about the reaction that maybe your dad
Speaker 1: had when you told him. How did you approach your
Speaker 1: dad to tell him that you were going to be
Speaker 1: on reality TV on Aussie show?
Speaker 2: Dad? What did I even say to that? Because all
Speaker 2: I remember just being like kind could be going on
Speaker 2: this show, and I think it was just absolutely so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. It was a very long process been
Speaker 3: like I was. It was so much longer than what
Speaker 3: you and I went through. And you know, I got
Speaker 3: to know because she was confining in us as her parents,
Speaker 3: and it was it was full on, like the amount
Speaker 3: of work. And they must have a good budget, I think,
Speaker 3: because they've put a lot of care into them. There's
Speaker 3: regular psychologist chats and they're just keeping keeping an eye
Speaker 3: on them all. I really believe looking after them so
Speaker 3: so far. You know, I haven't seen it yet, Ben,
Speaker 3: but I just know the effort that they're putting into
Speaker 3: caring for us since it's happened and during Can you pick.
Speaker 1: That sort of stuff up on what's changed in the
Speaker 1: way in which they make these reality shows compared to
Speaker 1: two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. And it's so different because you've got
Speaker 3: to prepare all the all the contestants and the participants
Speaker 3: for social media, because you and me just didn't get
Speaker 3: that and we get it now.
Speaker 2: And I know that.
Speaker 3: You know, the big fight that I had with Merlin
Speaker 3: that divided the country just on phone conversation and general
Speaker 3: conversation imagine if that was on social media.
Speaker 1: You know, I might not have got as much love
Speaker 1: as I did out of it.
Speaker 3: But it was different times back then too, So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's Jesus changed a lot, mate, but it's still the
Speaker 3: same sort of concept. You know, you're putting people in
Speaker 3: that aren't actors or actresses, and you just got to
Speaker 3: be yourself. And I think that's the beauty of watching
Speaker 3: these shows is you can usually always relate to someone
Speaker 3: in these shows, you know what I mean, and pick
Speaker 3: your favorites.
Speaker 1: That's a part of it, you know. That's the best
Speaker 1: thing about reality television is seeing different personalities be played
Speaker 1: out on screen and for you to say, oh I
Speaker 1: like that person, Oh I don't like that person. That's
Speaker 1: a part of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And anyone out there listening that you know wants to
Speaker 3: still have a crack at reality, tell you there's a
Speaker 3: lot of shows that come and go. I say, keep going,
Speaker 3: keep going for the auditions, because I know for a
Speaker 3: fact that Lexi's gone for a lot. I went for
Speaker 3: quite a few year before I got my sort of
Speaker 3: breaking big brother, and I've gone for some since and
Speaker 3: been rejected. But that doesn't really matter. If point is
Speaker 3: if you want something, chase your dreams, and that's what
Speaker 3: Lexi's done and now she gets to live them out.
Speaker 1: Lexie, what's a show that they turned you down for?
Speaker 1: I reckon if you applied for any show a casting
Speaker 1: agent would be would be stupid not to put you
Speaker 1: in it. What have you applied for stuff before?
Speaker 2: I've just applied for like Big Brother, I've replied for
Speaker 2: Love Island when I was like eighteen. There's one of
Speaker 2: the main ones. But yeah, I think this is my call,
Speaker 2: and I think like I got rejected to be coming
Speaker 2: on this because he's definitely more on my outa here.
Speaker 1: Well, I just want to say to the two of you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being so generous and talking
Speaker 1: to me about Ozzie Shaw. Paul still obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: The restraining order still in place, that don't worry you
Speaker 1: safe down there?
Speaker 2: What's all mate?
Speaker 3: If I ever turn you know, I'm coming up to
Speaker 3: see you and Bennie Bouley room for three for three.
Speaker 1: I hope you're listening to this right now. Give Ozzie
Speaker 1: Shaw a chance. It is so much fun. There is
Speaker 1: so many elements that do feel a little bit big,
Speaker 1: big brother esque, but the characters are very likable, even
Speaker 1: though their mouths are probably the filthiest mouths you'll ever
Speaker 1: see on television. But anyway, guys, thank you for joining me,
Speaker 1: thanks for having us. Bad enjoyed that. I now want
Speaker 1: to know what you think of this show, so I'll
Speaker 1: have to try and circle back to you guys, so
Speaker 1: you know we'll do this again.
Speaker 2: Definitely stands right night, See you, Paul, say all
Speaker 3: Right say Buddy,