1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:19,589 Speaker 1: live on the Free I hard We've got potential science here, guys. 3 00:00:20,109 --> 00:00:22,789 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I'm not saying that I've taken 4 00:00:22,829 --> 00:00:25,948 Speaker 1: on many of my pregnant wife symptoms. But last week 5 00:00:25,989 --> 00:00:28,549 Speaker 1: we had the whole week together, excuse me, and I 6 00:00:28,589 --> 00:00:33,869 Speaker 1: had really congested sinuses through the whole week. Right, Mim 7 00:00:33,949 --> 00:00:37,668 Speaker 1: has been struggling with blocked sinuses all through pregnancy. There's 8 00:00:37,668 --> 00:00:40,309 Speaker 1: a thing called pregnancy ryan Idis, which means you're not 9 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:42,309 Speaker 1: seeking out of a cold or flu. It is just 10 00:00:42,349 --> 00:00:45,869 Speaker 1: a symptom of pregnancy that your nasal cavity gets blocked, right. 11 00:00:45,909 --> 00:00:47,629 Speaker 1: And I was like, hang on a second, I've got 12 00:00:47,629 --> 00:00:49,508 Speaker 1: that now, exactly the same as you. And then all 13 00:00:49,509 --> 00:00:51,349 Speaker 1: of a sudden we both well, she was going to 14 00:00:51,349 --> 00:00:52,909 Speaker 1: the Cairo for lower back pain, and I was like, 15 00:00:52,949 --> 00:00:54,389 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind coming along, So I've got this back 16 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:55,989 Speaker 1: pain as well. And as we were describing it to 17 00:00:56,029 --> 00:00:57,789 Speaker 1: the Cairo, who were describing the same thing. 18 00:00:58,109 --> 00:01:02,309 Speaker 2: And I think you're an idiot, Helen, Geez, Helen, Helen, 19 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:05,669 Speaker 2: did you were you the partner of someone pregnant or 20 00:01:05,709 --> 00:01:08,229 Speaker 2: was your partner the one who experienced symptoms. 21 00:01:09,549 --> 00:01:12,989 Speaker 3: I was pregnant and my husband was having a hard time. 22 00:01:18,749 --> 00:01:21,869 Speaker 4: Really, because even if this does exist, there's a reason 23 00:01:22,309 --> 00:01:23,949 Speaker 4: the only women have called a dobbin there. 24 00:01:23,989 --> 00:01:24,669 Speaker 5: But Helen, were you? 25 00:01:24,989 --> 00:01:28,669 Speaker 4: Was there any sympathy from you? 26 00:01:28,669 --> 00:01:32,069 Speaker 3: No, because it meant that he cooked the meal. But 27 00:01:32,189 --> 00:01:34,669 Speaker 3: the trouble is when he cooked the meat, he couldn't 28 00:01:34,749 --> 00:01:36,989 Speaker 3: stand it and was, yeah, vomiting. 29 00:01:36,829 --> 00:01:38,988 Speaker 5: Oh he was. He was getting sick in the guns 30 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:40,229 Speaker 5: like doing the vomiting. 31 00:01:40,549 --> 00:01:45,669 Speaker 3: Actually yeah, and he was really brendant the labor. But 32 00:01:45,749 --> 00:01:46,909 Speaker 3: it was all right because. 33 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:50,909 Speaker 5: Had the tense machines dropped on. 34 00:01:50,989 --> 00:01:57,789 Speaker 4: Did here your partner's twenty five weeks pregnant? 35 00:01:58,669 --> 00:02:00,989 Speaker 6: Yeah, you feeling only twenty five weeks feeling it? 36 00:02:00,989 --> 00:02:02,309 Speaker 5: Big fell You're feeling it. 37 00:02:03,149 --> 00:02:03,429 Speaker 3: Yeah. 38 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:06,709 Speaker 6: She's actually got a high premises cravadom, so it's like 39 00:02:07,829 --> 00:02:11,629 Speaker 6: it's like an excessive morning sickness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And 40 00:02:11,668 --> 00:02:14,629 Speaker 6: I'm noticing myself even this year, I've had an extremely 41 00:02:14,668 --> 00:02:16,668 Speaker 6: bad cold and flu season at the same time that 42 00:02:16,749 --> 00:02:19,589 Speaker 6: she's been pregnant. I've been hospitalized myself with ivy fluids 43 00:02:19,589 --> 00:02:20,389 Speaker 6: and things like that as well. 44 00:02:22,149 --> 00:02:23,788 Speaker 1: I want to make it very clear, Mark, because I'm 45 00:02:23,789 --> 00:02:25,228 Speaker 1: sure you're the same as me. We're not asking for 46 00:02:25,269 --> 00:02:26,948 Speaker 1: sympathy here. What we're going through is not as bad 47 00:02:26,989 --> 00:02:28,549 Speaker 1: as the woman who is pregnant. But I think it's 48 00:02:28,589 --> 00:02:32,109 Speaker 1: pretty interesting to go, is it actually possible that you 49 00:02:32,149 --> 00:02:35,029 Speaker 1: are taking on some of the symptoms? And I think 50 00:02:35,069 --> 00:02:37,948 Speaker 1: the right person to answer that question from a scientific 51 00:02:38,349 --> 00:02:39,549 Speaker 1: perspective will. 52 00:02:39,389 --> 00:02:41,229 Speaker 5: I know the way you're trying to make me look 53 00:02:41,349 --> 00:02:42,269 Speaker 5: are you're coming for me? 54 00:02:43,269 --> 00:02:45,869 Speaker 1: But we've got doctor Lynn Burmeister here, who is a 55 00:02:45,869 --> 00:02:48,789 Speaker 1: medical director and fertility specialist. 56 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:51,429 Speaker 5: Now, Lynn, is this a situation. 57 00:02:51,069 --> 00:02:53,389 Speaker 1: Of everyone have a big laugh at all the people 58 00:02:53,429 --> 00:02:55,349 Speaker 1: who have just called is no? 59 00:02:55,709 --> 00:02:59,709 Speaker 7: In fact, you're correct. Woody effects about thirty to fifty 60 00:02:59,749 --> 00:03:03,828 Speaker 7: percent of expectant partners, and it's actually got a name. 61 00:03:03,869 --> 00:03:09,309 Speaker 7: It's called Kubard syndrome or sympathetic pregnancy. That means you're 62 00:03:09,309 --> 00:03:13,029 Speaker 7: feeling sympathetic to your partner being pregnant, and so you 63 00:03:13,069 --> 00:03:16,709 Speaker 7: start getting hormonal and emotional changes just like your partner. 64 00:03:16,829 --> 00:03:19,109 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I cried during Top down maverage. 65 00:03:19,149 --> 00:03:21,309 Speaker 1: Here was the seventh time I've watched it, and I've 66 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:24,029 Speaker 1: never cried in it. And that final scene where Tom 67 00:03:24,069 --> 00:03:25,749 Speaker 1: Cruise says to Miles, tell a good job. 68 00:03:25,869 --> 00:03:30,389 Speaker 5: I'm proud of you. Gone, yeah, so what. 69 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:33,149 Speaker 1: But so it's just because you're feeling sympathetic to your 70 00:03:33,149 --> 00:03:33,909 Speaker 1: pregnant partner. 71 00:03:33,949 --> 00:03:36,389 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's actually a nice thing. You've got deep 72 00:03:36,509 --> 00:03:39,989 Speaker 7: empathy and you've got a deep emotional connection with your 73 00:03:40,029 --> 00:03:44,349 Speaker 7: partner and what she's going through. It's associated with nausea, fatigue, 74 00:03:44,469 --> 00:03:50,829 Speaker 7: food cravings, even weight gain, low testosterone, backache, block sinuses. 75 00:03:51,349 --> 00:03:52,669 Speaker 5: Yeah, sign it the sinuses. 76 00:03:52,749 --> 00:03:54,949 Speaker 1: Yeah, look all my wit has gone up a little 77 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:56,349 Speaker 1: bit as well for bringing that up. 78 00:03:56,269 --> 00:04:01,789 Speaker 4: With it is actually a thing. 79 00:04:02,829 --> 00:04:06,269 Speaker 7: So thirty to fifty percent of partners suffered from it. 80 00:04:06,549 --> 00:04:10,629 Speaker 4: That is PHENOMENALLYNN Like I get it on the on 81 00:04:10,669 --> 00:04:13,709 Speaker 4: the emotional sense, I fully get that, and I can 82 00:04:13,749 --> 00:04:16,669 Speaker 4: even even with like back pain maybe there, I'm sure 83 00:04:16,669 --> 00:04:17,669 Speaker 4: there's perceived pain. 84 00:04:17,789 --> 00:04:20,149 Speaker 5: But what he has blocked sinuses. 85 00:04:21,748 --> 00:04:25,109 Speaker 7: We believe it's psychosomatic. So it's sort of like means 86 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:27,509 Speaker 7: the mind and the body are reacting in sync with 87 00:04:27,589 --> 00:04:30,029 Speaker 7: emotional changes to their partner being pregnant. 88 00:04:30,149 --> 00:04:33,589 Speaker 4: So what is producing mucus knowing that his partner is 89 00:04:33,589 --> 00:04:34,389 Speaker 4: also producing. 90 00:04:37,029 --> 00:04:39,188 Speaker 5: So we spent we had a week off work last week. 91 00:04:39,229 --> 00:04:41,428 Speaker 1: Will and I so I spent the entire week with 92 00:04:41,549 --> 00:04:43,909 Speaker 1: Mim last week and that's when all this really kicked up. 93 00:04:44,069 --> 00:04:45,269 Speaker 5: Does that make sense as well? 94 00:04:45,949 --> 00:04:49,308 Speaker 7: Yeah, because you're sort of being sympathetic towards her and 95 00:04:49,349 --> 00:04:52,069 Speaker 7: you're starting to get back pain like she's getting towards 96 00:04:52,069 --> 00:04:53,549 Speaker 7: the end of the pressure spent. 97 00:04:54,988 --> 00:04:57,909 Speaker 5: So is the solution that just can't help her? Now? 98 00:04:58,269 --> 00:04:59,869 Speaker 5: Maybe you need to go to You're going. 99 00:04:59,789 --> 00:05:01,909 Speaker 7: To look after her more than she looks after. 100 00:05:01,709 --> 00:05:05,909 Speaker 4: You, So can I ask you would? 101 00:05:05,988 --> 00:05:07,949 Speaker 5: So when with the sinus pain you're in bed for 102 00:05:07,949 --> 00:05:12,589 Speaker 5: three days? Is here? It was a tough week, a 103 00:05:12,669 --> 00:05:13,229 Speaker 5: toughic for you. 104 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:15,709 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, because I was like it was 105 00:05:15,949 --> 00:05:17,709 Speaker 1: the same rules for me that I'm home from. 106 00:05:17,789 --> 00:05:19,109 Speaker 5: I'm taking remy every day. 107 00:05:19,349 --> 00:05:21,949 Speaker 1: So these long days with these block sinuses, because the 108 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:23,748 Speaker 1: last thing I can do is I've got a block 109 00:05:23,789 --> 00:05:25,029 Speaker 1: signus Mim? 110 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:26,868 Speaker 5: Can you go and do? What's what I'm saying? So 111 00:05:26,909 --> 00:05:29,109 Speaker 5: you were in bed? No, I wasn't. I wasn't allowed 112 00:05:29,149 --> 00:05:32,829 Speaker 5: to be in bed. But was Mim in bed? Yes? Wow? Okay, 113 00:05:32,829 --> 00:05:34,549 Speaker 5: because I was going to che's the one who's pregnant. 114 00:05:34,549 --> 00:05:40,229 Speaker 2: Well that's saying if you were as a far more 115 00:05:40,309 --> 00:05:41,229 Speaker 2: block than yours. 116 00:05:41,389 --> 00:05:44,469 Speaker 5: So, Lynn, what's the treatment for this? Then? Like, like, 117 00:05:45,149 --> 00:05:45,869 Speaker 5: did do you get well? 118 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:47,789 Speaker 7: I think it's just having the baby and then all 119 00:05:47,829 --> 00:05:50,749 Speaker 7: those symptoms will good. So I think once the baby 120 00:05:50,789 --> 00:05:53,428 Speaker 7: comes out, your back pain will go and your sinus 121 00:05:53,469 --> 00:05:55,669 Speaker 7: will clear up. I think it's just having the baby. 122 00:05:55,709 --> 00:05:57,989 Speaker 7: It's got to do with the excitement and the anxiety 123 00:05:57,988 --> 00:06:00,149 Speaker 7: around having a new baby coming along as well. 124 00:06:00,909 --> 00:06:04,549 Speaker 1: This all makes sense, Lynn, This all makes sense quick one. 125 00:06:04,669 --> 00:06:06,549 Speaker 1: If I had to speed up the pregnancy, what's one 126 00:06:06,589 --> 00:06:07,429 Speaker 1: thing I could do tonight? 127 00:06:08,789 --> 00:06:10,748 Speaker 7: Oh? Well, you could have sex. 128 00:06:11,509 --> 00:06:13,709 Speaker 5: I'm real, I've got it on record. That's phenomenal. Then, 129 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:17,428 Speaker 5: thank you so much, Somture