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Speaker 1: Now there is quite a bit happening around the place

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Speaker 1: is indeed Travis wis the Assistant Commissioner of the Greater

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Speaker 1: Territory Police. Good morning to your assistant commissioner.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, first off, this morning, we do know, in what

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Speaker 3: Than it been an absolute tragedy for the family and

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Speaker 3: of child passed away. The matter is currently being investigative

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Speaker 3: investigated by our detectives on behalf of the coroner. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: there's not a great deal more than I can say

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Speaker 3: in relation to the determined cause of death, but it

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Speaker 1: And I've no doubt that when we do have some

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Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner, I do want to ask you about well,

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Speaker 1: an attempted sexual assault that occurred at Casarina. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have charged demand as I understand it,

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Speaker 3: So for your listeners, the first element to this is

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Speaker 3: So there was a member of the public as also

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Speaker 2: It's in essence an.

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Speaker 3: Oversight on behalf of our agency to not get that

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Speaker 3: no less. We accept that we could have done better

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Speaker 1: Because it is like it is a really difficult juggle

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, there are a very very small proportion of

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Speaker 1: But so from this point on it does sound as

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Speaker 2: We always do.

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Speaker 3: it didn't quite occur the way we would have hoped.

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Speaker 3: As I've said, managing the sensitivities around this particular matter

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Speaker 2: We need to balance the two.

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Speaker 4: Now, Assistant Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we've had a few calls on messages come through

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Speaker 3: So I was aware of that particular question, and we've

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Speaker 2: Security guard was assaulted.

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Speaker 3: In that particular circumstance, there was a couple of young

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Speaker 4: So was that like a fight or an assault that

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Speaker 4: So what day did that happen? That was over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: I think it was Friday? Lass work?

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Speaker 3: So the response that's been developed and this was being

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Speaker 3: there is some public safety aspects that require a policing response.

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Speaker 2: Alcohol is a key.

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Speaker 3: Driver of the harm and the any social behavior that's

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Speaker 3: We're still managing to return about one hundred people or

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Speaker 1: Mean one hundred people a week back to community. It's

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Speaker 2: Some of the people, unfortunately still just choose to live rough.

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Speaker 1: Now. I know that, you know, I know that you

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Speaker 3: So there was obviously an incident that occurred the night

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Speaker 3: cruises and they're actually disabling their cars or putting steering

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Speaker 1: So we saw a couple of them stolen earlier in

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Speaker 4: From the rural area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one in town particularly, and there was

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Speaker 3: using tiderflation devices and those people were arrested. The other

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Speaker 3: well that was also recovered out of that way.

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Speaker 1: So that vehicle theft is still a bit of an issue.

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Speaker 1: But as you've said, if you've got an older model vehicle, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you do need to take those extra measures to try

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Speaker 3: Look, I wish that I didn't have to pass that

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Speaker 3: The car didn't get very far. There was some damage caused,

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, now, Assistant Commissioner, we will keep it brief

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Speaker 1: because I've got the federal Minister on the line at

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Speaker 1: the moment, but I do want to ask, because you

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Speaker 1: did you brought one in for me? You brought one

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Speaker 1: spoken about these on numerous occasions, they've been referred to

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Speaker 1: spit shields. You've bought one in for me, and I've

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Speaker 1: got to tell you it does not look any anything

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Speaker 4: It is mesh.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of plastic obviously preventing somebody from

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Speaker 1: indeed in custody. Is it all right for me to

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Speaker 3: Look, yes, I don't see why we can't do that.

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Speaker 3: I just think it was important for your listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's not a very very good tool for radio.

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Speaker 3: I get that, but it's not what has been represented

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Speaker 3: the media previously. It is a tool that we use.

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Speaker 3: It's really important to protect our police. But it is

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Speaker 3: not it's opaque, it's clear, it's breathable. We won't use

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Speaker 3: And it does prevent spitting and mitigates biting as well

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Speaker 3: to an extent. So it's a tool that's at this

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Speaker 3: point in time we will continue to use and it's

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Speaker 3: important for our officers to protect them because although we

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Speaker 3: spittle can still go past that and down into someone's

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Speaker 3: Despite the fact, we'll take mitigation toward our offices getting

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Speaker 1: As I say, it looks nothing like what most people

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Speaker 1: would expect in my opinion, so we will make sure

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Speaker 1: that we post a photo up on the socials for

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Speaker 1: our listeners to be able to see that. Assistant Commissioner

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Speaker 1: Travis Wurst, we really appreciate your time. As always, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for coming in and speaking with us

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you,