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Speaker 1: And Amanda gem Nation from.

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Speaker 2: The Daily Os. She is the editor of The Boss

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Speaker 2: Lady m gillespie. Hello, Hello, Finally, a lifestyle series created

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Speaker 2: for the relatable everyday woman with love Megan. As you

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Speaker 2: guys have discussed, it's been greenlit for a second season,

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Speaker 2: landed on Netflix last week, made the global Top ten

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Speaker 2: within days. It shares the Duchess of Sussex tips and

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Speaker 2: tricks for hosting and everyday living, and frankly, the internet

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Speaker 2: is having a field day. It's a very Stepford Wife

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Speaker 2: kind of a thing, very cringe. I hate it, I

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Speaker 2: love wow. I want to be her. I want to

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Speaker 2: slap her. She's the most perfect human on earth. She's

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Speaker 2: here to make us all feel extremely inadequate. And that's

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Speaker 2: my take.

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Speaker 1: Do you get a sense of who she actually is

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Speaker 1: or is there a facade?

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Speaker 2: I think you get a sense of who she actually

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Speaker 2: is in the sense that she is desperate to be

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Speaker 2: like she wants to be adored. She wants everyone to

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Speaker 2: think that she is brilliant and wonderful and capable and talented,

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Speaker 2: all on her own, without Harry, without the royal family,

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Speaker 2: without acting. But it's just that kind of desperate need

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Speaker 2: to be liked. That makes her so beige, Like she

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Speaker 2: has this really careful kind of approach to everything. She

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Speaker 2: doesn't really lean into any jokes. It's like she doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to offend anyone. But there's no there's no riz,

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Speaker 2: there's no spark. She wears these impossibly incredible outfits, so

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Speaker 2: much linen, so much beige, a lot of cream, a

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Speaker 2: lot of cashmere. And she's cooking food. But you've never

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Speaker 2: seen someone cook so perfectly. There's no mess, there's no splutter, no.

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Speaker 1: Apron, no apron.

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Speaker 2: Put on a goddamn apron woman, there's no apron. She's

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Speaker 2: like Gweneth but many many years later, perfect in every way.

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Speaker 2: But she's got bees like the David Beckham Dooco. The

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Speaker 2: series opens with bees and bee hives. What's with bees? Well,

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Speaker 2: I bees, do you?

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Speaker 1: I've got Australian native bees who just flitter it go

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Speaker 1: around my backyard.

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Speaker 2: All the most relatable, fabulous people have bees.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm learning. She likes to wear beautiful clothes,

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Speaker 2: but she's also very relatable with the clothes, which she

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Speaker 2: tells us about this concept of how she dresses. It's

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Speaker 2: called high low dressing. We've got this grab from her

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Speaker 2: from her episode with Mindy Kayling, which is the second episode.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me about your clothes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I like High Low so.

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Speaker 2: Zara?

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Speaker 1: What Laura Piana Nate.

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Speaker 2: Really cute jumper which is supposed to be shocked, So

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Speaker 2: she shops at Lows. I just heard she shops at

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Speaker 2: Low high Lows fleecy Laura Piana is what she said

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Speaker 2: talking about her T shirt or her jumper or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I had not heard of this brand. I looked it up.

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Speaker 2: A white T shirt from this brand three thousand, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six dollars. But she's got the Zara

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Speaker 2: pants on? Why I do like us?

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Speaker 1: What? All these people come into her kitchen and shocked

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Speaker 1: that she's eaten a hamburger, shocked that she might shop

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Speaker 1: at Zara. Are we supposed to think that she's like?

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Speaker 1: What role is Meghan playing? Is she a royal? Is

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Speaker 1: she more eliqe than the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of us? I think what's funny about this whole

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Speaker 2: show is that she really is kind of charading as

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Speaker 2: the perfect princess. She doesn't do anything outrageous, she doesn't

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Speaker 2: say anything controversial. She is literally like a Stepford wife,

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Speaker 2: trad wife, perfect person she looks incredible. The food she

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Speaker 2: makes looks amazing. She says. One of her favorite things

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Speaker 2: to do is to prepare for her guest sweet If

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Speaker 2: a guest is coming over to stay, she loves to

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Speaker 2: mix up bath salts. She pops corn from an actual

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Speaker 2: piece of dried corn.

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Speaker 1: But this is a woman who spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: her advocacy talking about the rights of women. She's not.

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Speaker 1: She's a smart woman who has been quite driven to

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Speaker 1: be a philanthropist, to be an advoct Is any of

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Speaker 1: that in there?

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Speaker 2: Not yet? I think given the advocacy, as soon as

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Speaker 2: I start banging on that, you just go I can.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. She's chosen to be antie,

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Speaker 1: that she's chosen to be the traadwife.

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Speaker 2: So who is she. There's a bit of sustainability stuff,

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Speaker 2: like with the bees, with the honey, with all of

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Speaker 2: the homegrown herbs and jams and fruits and all that.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, she's making balloon

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Speaker 2: arches with plastic balloons. There's a lot of single youth

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Speaker 2: plastic stuff. So it's this sort of weird line that

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Speaker 2: she's walking. And I think you're exactly right amount her

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Speaker 2: she's like not really landed on an identity and is

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Speaker 2: really trying to kind of feel that out and act

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Speaker 2: as though or kind of present this front to the

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Speaker 2: world that's she's just like us, and she's really relatable,

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Speaker 2: but it's in the least relatable fashion. Even she's so

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Speaker 2: unrelatable that she makes people like Mindy Kayling, who's you know,

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Speaker 2: a big time Hollywood star millionaire. She makes Mindy Kayling

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Speaker 2: look like the everyday person. Mindy Kayling is in disbelief.

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Speaker 2: She says to her, are you tinker Bell? She can't

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Speaker 2: believe how perfect Megan? Why she's really perfect? What do

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Speaker 2: you want? What do you ladies want from me? What

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Speaker 2: we want from her? And I do feel bad because

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Speaker 2: the internet the tabloids were horrible to her and she

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Speaker 2: dealt with criticism that she did not deserve, that was

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Speaker 2: calculated and was unfair.

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Speaker 1: And it's brave for her to stick your head up again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but is this the right vehicle to stick your head up?

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Speaker 2: I think she just is so earnest and she doesn't

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Speaker 2: have that self awareness that we really want from her.

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Speaker 2: No one likes earnest, though I know ernest, no one cares.

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Speaker 1: But being glib and making sandwiches. Is that the solution.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We've already got Martha Stewett.

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Speaker 2: People get very annoyed when rich people act like they

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Speaker 2: do it all themselves, Like she's she's incredibly wealthy, and

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Speaker 2: she's like, oh, I'm going to make my own candle

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to make these little sandwiches for a

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Speaker 2: kid's party, And Mindy Kayling's looking at her like, we

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Speaker 2: have people that we pay for that. Megan, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? Why are you putting me through this? It's

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Speaker 2: not putting pure in my champagne. Just be quiet, like

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Speaker 2: Kate quiet, to be quiet, ok.

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Speaker 1: Now, we don't want it to be quiet, And that's

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Speaker 1: some of the criticisms are saying she should be quiet.

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Speaker 1: No one's asking her to be quiet. If she's going

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Speaker 1: to actually say, be a mouthpiece, what's it for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I think she needs to be more representative

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Speaker 2: of more people rather than this perfect so be a

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Speaker 2: worthy bore or why worth they have to equal bore?

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Speaker 2: It just does. I'm sorry, it's not me thatmo'st the rules,

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Speaker 2: legal purposes, the world we're living in, Baby

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Speaker 1: M gollesbi Chigger out of the daily odds,