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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer and health coach,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dog mum. On the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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Speaker 1: Are you with me, girl friends, Let's Rise and conquer. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to The and Conquer Podcasts. Today we have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest and we are chatting with Dara Hayes,

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Speaker 1: which you may better know her as DJ Tiger Lily.

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Speaker 1: Dara is not your usual DJ, even though she tours

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Speaker 1: around the world, she is still your everyday yoga doing,

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Speaker 1: ocean loving ossie girl who is passionate about helping the

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Speaker 1: animals and environment. I love this lighthearted but serious conversation

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Speaker 1: with Dara, who is so down to earth and so

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Speaker 1: easy to talk to. We chatted about the highs and

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Speaker 1: lows of her DJ lifestyle, her transition into veganism, her

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Speaker 1: morning and night routine that keeps her feeling her best,

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Speaker 1: and what it means to be a conscious influencer. I

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Speaker 1: just know you're all gonna love this episode, so let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Welcome to the show, Dara, Hi.

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Speaker 2: How are you going? Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: No, of course, guys, I was just telling Dara offline that, sorry,

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Speaker 1: should I call you Dara or DJ Tiger Lily.

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Speaker 2: Dara is great, Dara is really good.

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Speaker 1: I was just telling Dara offline that when me and

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Speaker 1: mel first started the podcast that I wanted to pitch

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Speaker 1: to her straight away because I've always been a really

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Speaker 1: big fan because I've always loved your music and then

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Speaker 1: also loved you on Instagram and love what you stand for.

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Speaker 1: But I like wanted to wait until we were a

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Speaker 1: bit bigger, and then we pitched and she said yes

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Speaker 1: that I was very excited.

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Speaker 2: That is too cute and too nice. I'm really appreciative.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's yeah, as I said before, guys, I

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Speaker 2: was chatting offline about this thing. It's really nice to

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Speaker 2: have a beautiful space to have open conversations. And we're

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Speaker 2: all so busy in our day to day lives that

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Speaker 2: we don't necessarily get time to have these epic conversations.

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Speaker 2: So it's really awesome to have a cool space to

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Speaker 2: do it in, for sure, one hundred percent amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, as this is the Rise and Conquer podcast, something

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Speaker 1: I always ask my guests is what is one thing

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Speaker 1: it can be big or small, that you were rising

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Speaker 1: up and conquering this week.

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Speaker 2: This is going to go against what my people say

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Speaker 2: as answers, but for me, the one thing I am

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Speaker 2: trying to conquer this week is rest, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's something really difficult to do in the lives that

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Speaker 2: we live these days. We're all so busy. The past

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Speaker 2: two weeks, I've been just traveling overseas for work, playing

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Speaker 2: a whole heap of shows, which has been amazing. But

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Speaker 2: practices like sleeping and eating well and going to the gym.

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Speaker 2: Catching up on some work, of course, but I find

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Speaker 2: resting actually is kind of the most difficult thing to conquer.

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Speaker 2: It's really easy to write a long to do list

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Speaker 2: fill your day with tasks and be busy and you know,

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Speaker 2: So for me, that's what I'm trying to do this week.

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Speaker 1: So I completely agree. I feel like we're definitely in

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Speaker 1: So it's really nice that you're kind of explaining that

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Speaker 2: I always used to say when someone said how are you,

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Speaker 2: But it's true, we're so busy, we're so stressed. Not cool.

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Speaker 2: definitely see how it would be so relaxing for just everything,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's difficult. There's not many people that

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously I've done an intro and I guarantee everyone

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Speaker 2: Who is Dara? Yeah? Cool? Hey guys, So I am Dara.

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Speaker 2: I am twenty seven. I live in Sydney with my

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Speaker 2: at the same time, I am a DJ by night,

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Speaker 2: And while I was studying, I realized that I wanted

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Speaker 2: look back. It definitely hasn't been easy, but I have

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Speaker 1: But it was awesome. I've definitely seen on social media

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Speaker 1: No one can say anything, and can I just say,

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Speaker 1: I love the fact what you said about you have

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Speaker 1: these two sides of you, and you can you can

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Speaker 1: play into each of them and you don't kind of

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Speaker 2: That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that you share that.

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Speaker 2: I've become comfortable with, I suppose being both of them.

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Speaker 2: I always thought I just had to be one thing

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Speaker 1: It's probably like the different vibe of you could really

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Speaker 2: With you, I think so, and like if they're there

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Speaker 1: So I've always known about you, I during my ageen

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Speaker 2: to like, you know, have your body change and have

434
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: yourself put on weight, but be comfortable with that and

435
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: also share that. I think that's such a positive experience

436
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: and it makes me sad to see so many girls

437
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: on Instagram who are definitely really underweight or what's there's

438
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: a term for. I think it's like anorexia athletica or

439
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: something like that, where they're like, it's like being anorexic,

440
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: but I don't know that it's there's like a it's

441
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: something like that, but where they're just so obsessed with sport,

442
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: it's so obsessed with getting athletic. I think it might

443
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: be called an anorexia athletica. I don't know, but like

444
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: there's so many different.

445
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I definitely like, like I said, I wasn't diagnosed,

446
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: but I don't think I was anorexic, but I think

447
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I was orthorexic. And of that is where you have

448
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: this intention that everything that you do and eat must

449
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: be healthy, so you do like orthorexic is kind of

450
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: like and I used to do this myself, Like you know,

451
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: you're looking at recipes and it has to be gluten free, refined,

452
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: sugar free, green free, all the Yeah, but you'd do food,

453
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: but you'd make sure it's like the healthiest possible. It's

454
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: definitely like I was in that bubble.

455
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah nah, but thank you.

456
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And then yeah, just touching on what

457
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: you said, I feel for other influencers who have created,

458
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, that platform off fitness and health and it

459
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: is now changing and it would be extremely hard because

460
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I went for a time and I want to ask

461
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: a shoe about this after, but I went through a

462
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: time where my body was finding back against being so

463
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: restrictive and having to look a certain way, and I

464
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: felt very stuck in having to be a certain person

465
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: and look a certain way for you know, my Instagram.

466
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Speaker 1: Did you ever go through a time in your life,

467
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: whether it being for djaying or you know, the where

468
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: you look where you felt like you had to be

469
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: someone you weren't.

470
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: Massively, so it didn't so much happen about body image

471
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: because by the time I was DJing, I was lucky

472
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: enough to have worked through with like a psychologist and

473
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: a hypnotherapist and all these people to sort out my

474
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: body issues. But it was actually to do with like

475
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: identity and in particular to do with my hair color.

476
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: So I used to have my hair would be like

477
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: actually blue, like dyed blue. It would be yeah, naturally blue.

478
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: And I remember I was I was on like a

479
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: massive tool, like three months away from home, and my

480
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: hair all the blue had pretty much watched out and

481
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: it was like this really cool, like gray color, and

482
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: I was so happy with that. I was like, Wow,

483
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: I finally kind of can see like myself again. It

484
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: was like I'd been like hiding for years. And then

485
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: my manager at the time was like, all right, I

486
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: found you a hair salon. You're gonna go here and

487
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: get your hair dyed, blah blah blah. So I was like, oh, okay, fine,

488
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: and I went and got my hair dyed back to blue.

489
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: And I remember coming home and just went back to

490
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: my apartment in New York and like calling my mum balling,

491
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: being like this isn't me. I don't want this. I

492
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: hate this, it's ugly, it's not who I am. I

493
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: feel trapped. Like literally, I was so upset, and it's

494
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: crazy to think I was so upset about just having

495
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: my hair dyed, but that was definitely a massive way

496
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, because I just thought that, like, people

497
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't care if I didn't have crazy colorful hair, and

498
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: I thought that I felt actually really trapped, And I

499
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: think it was a combination of probably being in a

500
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: bad management deal and being away from home for so

501
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: long and being incredibly tired and probably quite physically unwell,

502
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: and then on top of that, not feeling like I

503
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: had the power to make the decisions about how I looked,

504
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: and that was really Yeah, it was an awful experience

505
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: to have, I suppose, And so that's kind of why

506
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: I went back to natural hair color and started to

507
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: wear wigs, was because it meant that I would have

508
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: like my own life during the week or during when

509
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: I chose to. And it also meant that I could

510
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: step into my DJ self, which kind of relates back

511
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: to the kind of two sides of my personality thing

512
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: that we were speaking about earlier. And that was really

513
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: empowering for me, because now I have a choice, and

514
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: I feel empowered by my wigs and my show persona

515
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: that personality, but I also know that I can be myself,

516
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: and being yourself is so empowering, and it's crazy to

517
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: think that for such a long time, I didn't let

518
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: that shine through. So I think so many young women

519
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: and men as well struggle with these issues. Especially now

520
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: that we have social media. There's definitely a huge expectation to,

521
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, keep up appearances, and I hate to think

522
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: what that has driven people to do. You know, when

523
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: you think about things, it blows my mind.

524
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I know, it's funny. Me and my husband actually watched

525
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: an episode of you know, the TV series Black Mirror.

526
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and I'm like, I'm a person who hates

527
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: creepy scary movies, like I refuse to watch them. But

528
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'll watch it. I didn't

529
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: think it's that scary, and it wasn't that scary, but

530
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: it was so disturbing all about just like disturbing things

531
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: to do with technology. And then me and Tim were

532
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: talking in bed and he was saying, He's like, don't

533
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: you think it's so crazy how much our lives have

534
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: changed because of technology. If you think about, you know,

535
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: your parents' life at your age, obviously it would be

536
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: very different for you because you're a DTA, but you know,

537
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: just in general, how much our lives have changed. And

538
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: it's even you were saying you didn't have social media

539
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: when you were sixteen. Like, imagine now being a young

540
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: girl and having social media, having all these feelings of

541
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: having to fit in and the pressures. And it's so

542
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: crazy to think how much life has changed because you know,

543
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: social media and technology. I don't know, it's.

544
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: Really scary to think what's going to happen when I

545
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: have kids. I don't know how I'm going to deal

546
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: with it, like move to a different planet. I don't know.

547
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: So like it is huge, Like to think of the

548
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: issues that me and all my friends went through when

549
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: we were in high school. And look, don't get me wrong,

550
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: we had MySpace, but like that was about it. You

551
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: had like twenty friends, and you know, you didn't follow

552
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: anyone famous really maybe a few bands that you liked,

553
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: but that would be about it. And I think that

554
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: it's really we're going to see some massive scary stats

555
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: in the next five to ten years about what these

556
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: platforms like Facebook and Instagram and snapchat are doing two

557
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: young people's mental health. Actually, I was only in the

558
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: club on Saturday night. I was doing I Agree with

559
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: some people and all these girls were like taking snapchat

560
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 2: like photos. I don't have snapchare anymore. I got rid

561
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: of Ages Ago just because I know it choos Internet. Yeah,

562
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, that's why I got rid of it.

563
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, I can't.

564
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Deal with this platforms. It's just too much. Yeah, right,

565
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: so just kind of consolidated. But these filters, we're taking

566
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: these photos and it didn't even look like us. It

567
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: was a craziest thing, and like they were obsessed with

568
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: this one one in particular that it had their little

569
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: stars above your head. And I was like, oh my god,

570
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: It's made my eyes look bigger, my nose look smaller,

571
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: my face looks skinnier, my lips look bigger, like I

572
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: look like a Barbie, but like creepy contort your face. Yeah,

573
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: it's messed up. Oh my god. And like just to

574
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: think that that's what these apps are telling them is cute,

575
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: and like they all look like like Kim Kardashian, really

576
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: like clones. It was crazy, and like, don't get me wrong,

577
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: I love Kimmy Kay, but we don't all need to

578
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: look like her. We can all look different. And I

579
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: think these apps are really just not promoting those ideals,

580
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: which is really scary.

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Speaker 1: the episode. It's just not okay. I was actually reading

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00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: an article and they were saying, don't you think it's

609
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: funny how a lot of the famous people we look

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00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: up to, like Kim Kardashim, like Gigi Hadid and like

611
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: her sister and Kylie Jenner, that all their faces, if

612
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: you actually put them together, they all look so similar

613
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: in regards to the like the portions of like their

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: nose and cheeks and all that sort of thing. And

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00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: I thought, it's so true. It's like we're trying to

616
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: conform and this is the exact same thing with the filters.

617
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: It's like we're trying to conform to one look and

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00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I just do not get it. And it's like it's

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00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: a little bit scary because it's almost in a sneaky way,

620
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: like you almost don't really fully see it until you

621
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: start talking about these sorts of things. But I just

622
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to when you were chatting about

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: when you went through your kind of identity crisis with

624
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: your hair and back to feeling empowered. Do you have

625
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: anything that you personally do when you want to get back,

626
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: I guess back with your intuition in to feel empowered

627
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: and to feel yourself. Is there any practices you do

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Speaker 1: or anything like that.

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00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different things that I do. And

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Speaker 2: I think now is a really beautiful time for me

631
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: to share with you because I've just come back from

632
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: being away overseas and I feel frazzled and all over

633
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: the place, and you know, you're a bit jet lagged.

634
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: You've been working constantly for twos so this is kind

635
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: of what I've been doing the past couple of days,

636
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: and like things like this really help. So for me,

637
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: the first thing is like spending time with my family

638
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: and my partner and my dog. Of course my friends

639
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: as well, but I suppose my family and my partner

640
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: are the main ones in that they like really bring

641
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: me back down to earth and they just remind you

642
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: of who you are and where you belong and the

643
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: fact that I do belong, and they for me are

644
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: what's really important. They're the reason that I go overseas

645
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: and I work and you know, I do all these

646
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: crazy late nights. It's, you know, to provide for myself

647
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: or my partner and obviously like our future children and stuff.

648
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing. The second thing is making

649
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: sure my physical body is in line, because when it's not,

650
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: my mental state isn't so sleeping. I work out. I

651
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: do CrossFit at the moment, which I'm loving. I eat

652
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: a vegan diet, which is also I've been eating amazing

653
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: beautiful home cooked food the last couple of days. I

654
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: do infrared saunas, which I really love. I also use

655
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: essential oils, so I use them in a whole heap

656
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: of different ways to assist my emotions and my sleep

657
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: routine or my energy if I'm feeling a little bit

658
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: of a lull in the afternoon. And then something that

659
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I also love to do is I have a reiki practitioner.

660
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Her name is Katrina, and she works in Sydney and

661
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: she's amazing. So if ever i'm feeling and I often

662
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: feel like this when I get off a plane, if

663
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: ever I'm feeling like frazzled, I'll go and have a

664
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: session with her because I know people like lull about

665
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: like having your chakras aligned and your energy cleared out

666
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: and stuff. But like she actually works, Like I don't

667
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: know what she does, but whatever she does, it feels

668
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: like someone has got a non toxic of course health

669
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: ord cleaner and just like cleaned through my entire body

670
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: and soul. And it's really awesome to have her as

671
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: well as all these other techniques and things that I

672
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: just mention and at my disposal because I kind of

673
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: have like a go to DIY kit of how to

674
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: kind of hone in on my true self again when

675
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: I am feeling frazzled. And I think that's something that

676
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: I would really suggest that people do, is find people

677
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: and routines and practices and exercise and food and even

678
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: practitioners that you really resonate with and that work for you,

679
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: because it's important to know what to do when you're

680
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: not feeling yourself.

681
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: I personally haven't had Breaki, but I get acupunctial.

682
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Oh. I love acupuncture to so good.

683
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't know how it works, but

684
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: it works.

685
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: It does. If ever you're in Sydney, hit me up

686
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: and I'll get you in touch with my girl because

687
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: she is. Yeah, she's amazing, so cool.

688
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I would love that. I definitely love very much into

689
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: alternative medicine, and I have a natural path and an

690
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: acupuncturist and all that good stuff. But you spoke a

691
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: lot so much any good tools in there. By the way,

692
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing that with the Riz

693
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: and Coner audience. And I want to chat more about

694
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: those specifically. So you have obviously mentioned that you are vegan.

695
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: Go into a little bit why you became vegan and

696
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: was that something like a conscious effort or something that

697
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: happened organically for you.

698
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: I want to start talking about this topic by taking

699
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: it back like twenty plus years when I was like

700
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: five or four years old. I remember sitting at the

701
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: dining table at Christmas and Mum put like the meat

702
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: on our plate. I don't remember what it was. Let's

703
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: just say it was turkey, and for some reason whatsoever,

704
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: I really didn't want to eat it. And so what

705
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: I did I like chewed put it in my mouth

706
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: and like would pretend to chew it, and then I

707
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: would spit it out under my chair. Anyway, at the

708
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: end of the meal, obviously everyone got up from the

709
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: family and there was a big pile of like meat

710
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: under my table, and I remember I got in so

711
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: much trouble and was also embarrassed that I'd done that.

712
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, I don't know, because I was

713
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: so young, I just didn't want to eat it. And

714
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I remember my mom saying I remember saying

715
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: I want to be vegetarian. My mom saying, no, when

716
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: you're older and you're cooking for yourself, you can do

717
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: whatever you want. And so it's really interesting how like

718
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 2: in tune, I think I was when I was younger,

719
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: and then through cultural and social practices and stuff, I

720
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: just kind of lost that, which is really sad. And

721
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't until I was like in my early twenties

722
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: that I started to come to again and really put

723
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: the pieces of the puzzle together and really become conscious

724
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: and awake as to the whole food chain thing, if

725
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: you will. So when I was probably maybe twenty two,

726
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: I started to think about being vegetarian. I had a

727
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: couple of my cousins. They'd been vegio their whole lives,

728
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: and they'd started to explore veganism and I really looked

729
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: up to them and they were a really nice source

730
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: of positive energy and information, which was really cool. To

731
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: have people like that that I could look up to.

732
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: And I remember having a conversation in particular with one

733
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: of my cousins. She's amazing. I adore her so much,

734
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: and I always talk about her when people ask me

735
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: this question. She has been like vegan for ages. She's

736
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: really into her yoga. She's crazy, and that she loves

737
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: to explore crazy elements of things. I e. I remember

738
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: at one point in time she was giving a go monofruitarian,

739
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: which is where you just eat one fruit for like

740
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: a week, and then the next week you eat another fruit. Anyway,

741
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: she didn't do it for a long period of time,

742
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: but she enjoyed it and thought it was a great

743
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: study to see how her body would react eating the

744
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: same food for a period of time. It's so cool,

745
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: she said. It was amazing, and she said her digestion

746
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: and energy and sleep and everything was wonderful. But obviously

747
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: it's not particularly sustainable for long term thing anyway. So

748
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: I remember having a really beautiful conversation with her on

749
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve one night before I was going to

750
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: a show. And this was at a time where I

751
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: was like overworked, I was drinking too much, was partying

752
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: too much. I was traveling too much. I definitely was

753
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: eating a whole lot of shit. And I just remember

754
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: sitting across the table from her and she was just glowing,

755
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, I want to

756
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: be like that. Why am I like this? And why

757
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: is she like that? And we're talking about her vegan diet,

758
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: and I just was like picking a brain and asking

759
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: her questions. And I decided from then on, I was

760
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 2: going to cut meat out of my diet. So first

761
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: of all, I went pescatarian, so I was still consuming

762
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: fish and seafood product, and a little after that, I

763
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: cut that out of my diet, and so I was

764
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: just having dairy and eggs. And then one day I

765
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: was just like, all right, I'm ready, it's time, and

766
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: I moved to a strictly plant based diet and I have, like,

767
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: honestly never looked back. It's been the number one best

768
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: thing that I've ever done for myself and probably ever

769
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: will do for myself, because it changed so much for me.

770
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: It changed my relationship with my body, changed my relationship

771
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: with food, It changed my relationship with people, with the world,

772
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: with animals, with how I think about consuming, with how

773
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: I think of everything. Really, it's pretty crazy because I

774
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: just started to explore this avenue of lifestyle and living

775
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: because of health. You know, I was sitting across from

776
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: my cousin looking at her glowing and feeling so full

777
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: of health, and I was on the other side of

778
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: the table feeling worse for wear. It's interesting that I

779
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: think this happens to a lot of vegans or people

780
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: who have a plant based diet, is that they go

781
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: in thinking that they're just going to do it for

782
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: health reasons, and then, however it happens, they end up

783
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: becoming invested in the other reasons as well. So before

784
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: you ask me any other questions, I quickly explained that

785
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: there's three main tiers of veganism for people out there

786
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 2: who don't know that much about it. So the first tier,

787
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: I suppose, is health, the second tier is the environment,

788
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: and the third tier is the animal rights. And so

789
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: for me, I kind of went in at tier one

790
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: thinking just about the health thing, and for now me,

791
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: at this point in time, the main reason why I

792
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: do it is for the animal rights. Definitely still care

793
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: about health and the environment, but if I had to

794
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: order them, the animal rights would definitely be the first one.

795
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: So it's a really cool community to be a part of.

796
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: And as I said before, like it has literally changed

797
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: my life, turned it on its head for the better,

798
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I'd give up anything for that now.

799
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Because when you see something I suppose have such a

800
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: positive impact on not only your life but everything around you,

801
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: you can't help but just be like so grateful for it.

802
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: That's so beautiful, it's so lovely. What you said about

803
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: it kind of was intuitive for you to come out

804
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: to these decisions. It's actually funny. I wasn't going to

805
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: say this, but I was thinking that. Yes on podcast,

806
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: they like the Rise and Conker audience, no stuff before tim.

807
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: Ah, that's amazing. I love that so much.

808
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I just get into the conversation. But it's funny you

809
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: say that because I've grown up in a family where

810
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: it was very much, you know, meat and vegetables. I

811
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: have three older brothers and a dad, and they are

812
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: all big meat eaters, and I definitely didn't really think

813
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: anything of it. So that's how I've grown up, and

814
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: it's really funny. But recently, like literally just maybe in

815
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, I found this really cool

816
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: vegetarian cafe where I live, and I've just been like

817
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: loving having vegetarian meals and being like, oh, like it's

818
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: actually fine when I don't have meat for me. I'm

819
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: realizing that it's just more habit like because I've just

820
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: been in habit my whole entire life rather than for

821
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And I've really been like interested in kind

822
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: of exploring the space more and like following more vegetarian

823
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: vegan people and just kind of like, I don't want

824
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: to say anything because I'm a person like if I

825
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: was to ever say, oh, you know, I'm growing a

826
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: vegetarian or vegan, like I had to do it, I

827
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say anything like that. But I do

828
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: enjoy listening to other people talk about the intuitive side

829
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: because at the moment, I don't feel pushed or anything.

830
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: But it's kind of just like this weird thing happening

831
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: in my body where I'm like drawn to it more.

832
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it.

833
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: That's you literally explained it to a tea, like you

834
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: don't need to say anything else. And I think it's

835
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: actually a really beautiful exciting stage to be in because

836
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: there's so much incredible information out there and there's so

837
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: much amazing food for you to try. Wow, I'm excited

838
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: for you. And I think it's something that happens as

839
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: we get older, like we start to question what we've

840
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: been taught, and we really start to listen into our

841
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: bodies and what our bodies tell us, because ultimately, our

842
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: bodies know what's best for us. And it kind of

843
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: becomes quite hard to ignore it, especially when the information

844
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: is becoming more and more readily available about how bad

845
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: animal product is for your health and how great plant

846
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: based living is, and you know, all the stuff to

847
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: do with the climate change and of course most importantly

848
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: the animal rights. Like it's it does get quite difficult

849
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: not to listen, especially with social media these days. And

850
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: I think once again, as we get older, we start

851
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: to become more in tune with what's important to us.

852
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: And I think naturally, being women, we are generally drawn

853
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: to being compassionate toward other people and of course other

854
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: animals and our bodies as well. So there's so many

855
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: different elements which kind of are just drawn from intuition.

856
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: And it's nice to hear you say that. I think

857
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: you should just really enjoy this time. Like there's so

858
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: many fun podcasts out there and so many great recipes

859
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: and cool cafes and bits and pieces. I was the

860
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: same as you came from, like a meat and veg family,

861
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: and it can be kind of confronting at some points,

862
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: like you know, working your way through the relationships and

863
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: the cultural expectations and our cultural relationship with meat and

864
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: the consumption of animal product. But I think that it's

865
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: super exciting that you're even having these thoughts because you know,

866
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: you've got such a huge audience and so many young

867
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: men and women like tuned into what you're doing. It's

868
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: really cool to be able to just share such good

869
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: information with them, because which is something that we may

870
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: talk about at some point as well, Like there's so

871
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: many influencers out there who are not thinking about these

872
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: things and are just thinking about their bank accounts. And

873
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: I think it's really beautiful and really valuable to have

874
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: people like you out there who are even just thinking

875
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: about these topics or having experiences where you do go

876
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: to a vegger or a vegan restaurant and you really

877
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: enjoy it. It's awesome, so so cool.

878
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because I definitely and I'm just gonna be

879
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: very frank and honest, I personally haven't watched any of

880
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: the animal rights videos or anything like that, because I

881
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: know the person I am. If I were to, I

882
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: would have to like literally straight away go vegan, because

883
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: I just I know, and I am saying that, like

884
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: I feel really bad because it's almost like in my head,

885
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just I'm not at the point yet,

886
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like I'm not strong enough. Things are

887
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: so hectic in my life, like I don't need one

888
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: more fee to dress and deal with, which I know

889
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: is like so selfish, But I do enjoy the fact

890
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: that I intuitively just like, oh, like you know, I'm hungry,

891
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: instead of going to my usual place, like I just

892
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: want to check out this like vegetarian or vegan place.

893
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: And I think also for me, it has to feel

894
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: like my choice rather than a choice getting pushed on me,

895
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

896
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: It's very important that the decision comes from within you,

897
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: because it is. It can be challenging for many reasons,

898
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: and there are lots of changes to make and to

899
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: think about, so you have to definitely want to do

900
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: it yourself. You can't be pushed into it. I think

901
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: that's really great that you've been able to recognize that too.

902
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I just know from all past habits that's that's something

903
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: very big to me. If I do want to make

904
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: some sort of big change, it definitely has to come

905
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: from within rather than having me feeling like.

906
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: I have to.

907
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: That's interesting that you said about, you know, I do

908
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: have this space in this platform, and so do you

909
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: as an influencer, and I absolutely love that. And I

910
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: guess what came to mind first of all is what

911
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: I spoke to you about priestly of you know, I

912
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: had this platform where I said a lot of things

913
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: about restricting food and doing these crazy cardio exercises, and

914
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: it was funny. Maybe six months ago I actually put

915
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: a post up and I said, I'm actually really sorry

916
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: for some of my past my posts and what I

917
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: put out there telling you guys and influencing you guys

918
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: as an influencer, because now looking back, I realized how

919
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: detrimental that could have been to someone not in a

920
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: good place. And I mentally was not in a good place,

921
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: but I just like I couldn't see what was happening.

922
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: But now looking back, I realized and I wanted to

923
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: like say it to be like, I realized that what

924
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I said previously, you know, was not in line and

925
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: could have been detrimental. But like, now knowing what I

926
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: know now, like I promised to keep pushing and keep

927
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: questioning everything and just being very conscious because I feel

928
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of influencers out there, they talk about things,

929
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: and you know, it is kind of it's this weird

930
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: space because you know, we are this is our personal lives.

931
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: We should be able to express ourselves. But I feel

932
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: like if you do have an influence where you have

933
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: all these eyes on you, especially young girls who are

934
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: very impressionable or young males like you do have a

935
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: responsibility to really filter what you put out there. Do

936
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: you sort of agree what your opinion?

937
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, one hundred percent? Like I know that

938
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: these accounts are our lives, Yes, they definitely are, but

939
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: like there's such filtered versions of our lives. And I

940
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: think as soon as you start to have even just

941
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: a small following, you have a massive social responsibility to

942
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: do the right thing by yourself and by followers and

943
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: by the world at large. And it's crazy to see

944
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: so many, even Australian influencers just like mindlessly engaging with

945
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: companies that like, oh, something that's irked me lately is

946
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: a lot of girls working with like companies that still

947
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: test on animals, and it's something that I think we

948
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: can all agree on is not okay whether you're vegan

949
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: or not. And these companies have big, big checkbooks, you know,

950
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: and so it's obviously very tempting for these young women.

951
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: They get paid a lot of money to do this stuff.

952
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: But realistically, I think what's way more important than having

953
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: a large number in your bank account is to have

954
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: a social responsibility to teach the young women following you,

955
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: like what is important and what's actually happening, because they're

956
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: not going to think about these things. You know. When

957
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: I was sixteen, I didn't even know animal testing was

958
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: really a thing. I didn't even know it existed. So

959
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the future in that I hope that

960
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: conscious influencing is going to become a lot more prevalent.

961
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: But I do think it's going to take quite a

962
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: long time, even for myself, Like it's taken a lot

963
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: of back and forth conversations with my different agents explaining

964
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: to them what brands I'm willing to engage with and

965
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: what brands I'm not willing to engage with. And why

966
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: that is. And I think it's quite difficult for them

967
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: to understand when they just see a dollar sign. But

968
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: for me, obviously it's more important to be sharing true

969
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: positive information with my audience that they can really relate to,

970
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: and also to be like a reliable source of information

971
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: for my audience. So if they, you know, want to

972
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: find out a beauty product that they can use, they

973
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: could go to my account and be like, Okay, she

974
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: uses that, that's safe to use. Awesome. So I definitely

975
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: think we also have a responsibility as well on the

976
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: mental health side of things, which kind of links into

977
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: all of that, and we could talk about you know,

978
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: like face tune apps and all that stuff for days.

979
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: But yes, we definitely do have responsibility, a big one.

980
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: I love how you're coming from this and such like

981
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: an all side thing. And I also think like, sometimes

982
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: there's stuff in my life that I don't want to say.

983
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: It's not like anything that bad or anything, but I

984
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: maybe haven't stopped doing something, but I am very conscious

985
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: of I just won't put that on my account because

986
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: I think about you, like I don't just think about

987
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: another girl my age. It's like you've got to think

988
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: about the girls who are literally like, you know, twelve thirteen,

989
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: even younger or you know, like older women or anything

990
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: like that. Like it's it's just such a thing as

991
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: having responsibility to not just think that what you promote

992
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

993
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, because even if you have a thousand followers,

994
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: that's still like a thousand people that you are sharing

995
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: a message with. A thousand people in real life is

996
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people. If you gather a thousand people together,

997
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: that's pretty massive. And I think when you think about

998
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: like the number of people that we both have following us,

999
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: it's like if you added it up, it's like a

1000
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: million people. It's a lot of people to be talking to,

1001
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: you know. And I think it's really important that you're

1002
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: thinking about these things. It's awesome because I don't think

1003
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: many people do.

1004
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And just something that kind of popped

1005
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: into my brain there. I own a natural like supplement

1006
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: company with my brother, and it is fully vegan, and

1007
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: even though we're not vegan, we just like our packaging

1008
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: is sustainable and it's vegan and all that sort of thing.

1009
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: And I actually had a girl dmme and she kind

1010
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: of had a dig and she was like saying something

1011
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: about the price, and it's very like it is in

1012
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: the right target price for our first product was a

1013
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: pre workout, and I explained to her, I was like,

1014
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: this is an all natural pre workout, Like we went

1015
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: through so many like testing in stages that there's no fellers,

1016
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: there's no like crap we paid extra money for, like

1017
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, the sustainable packaging, and like we like, it's

1018
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: really hard because it is so much easier to go cheaper,

1019
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: to go non sustainable, to go non vegan and all

1020
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: that sort of things. So it's really hard because we're

1021
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: kind of in this time where people want quick, fast, cheap,

1022
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: and so it's kind of finding this balance and kind

1023
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: of being like, okay, so what do you care about

1024
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: in the long.

1025
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: Scheme of things.

1026
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: So it is really it's really hard to sort of

1027
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: be conscious and think about these things altogether.

1028
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, hats off to you guys for doing that, because

1029
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: you could have gone and the other route. And like,

1030
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: there have been so many influences these days that have

1031
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: been releasing products that like aren't sustainable and or vegan,

1032
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: and I know they've copped so much shit online because

1033
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: of that, especially when you're trying to promote like a healthy, sustainable,

1034
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: happy lifestyle and next minute you've got like, I don't know,

1035
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: plastic and also like way product or whatever, and it's like,

1036
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Oh my god.

1037
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like because I confounded it with my brother when

1038
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: we were talking about this, like we both agreed straight

1039
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: off the bat, like even though we're both not vegan,

1040
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: we're like, this is the way of the future, like

1041
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: we just know, and it is so much about being

1042
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: conscious and I think I think that's so true, Like

1043
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm a person who does promote this like healthy and

1044
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: happier life, and it would just be such it would

1045
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: just be funny if I tried to bring out something that. Yeah,

1046
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have those sort of backgrounds or.

1047
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: Points totally, But I love that you're thinking about that

1048
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: and talking about that as well, because it totally is

1049
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: the way of the future in my opinion anyway, and

1050
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: I think it's going to take a while for a

1051
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: lot of brands to catch up. So it's super amazing

1052
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: that you guys have just done that from the get go.

1053
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: So awesome.

1054
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I totally agree with that too, and I'm

1055
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: glad that is happening. Like I actually saw something the

1056
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: other day, I'm going to total, I'm going to butcher

1057
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: the saying, but it's kind of like the saying of

1058
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: if you can't do everything, it is just good to

1059
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: be conscious and do things where you can. So just

1060
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: because I'm not vegan, I very much in my supplements

1061
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: that I consume, I very much try and choose, uh,

1062
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, vegan options. And I'm actually someone who I

1063
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: try and have one meat dish a day and then

1064
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: the rest I'll do like a vegan and vegetarian. So

1065
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: if I have the option of a protein powder between

1066
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, vegan of way, like, it's just very obvious me.

1067
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: Obvious to me because there is not much tastes difference

1068
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: that I would just choose the vegan option of that.

1069
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: Totally. You reminded me of another post, which I of

1070
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: course can't remember where I was from. It's like one

1071
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: of those like Twitter memes, and it's like, hats off

1072
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: to the person that's vegan, Hats off to the person

1073
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: that isn't but is trying to cut down on meat,

1074
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: Hats off to the person that you know takes their

1075
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: recycle bag to the shop, Hats off to the person

1076
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: that forgot their recycle bag to the shop today, but

1077
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, has invested in fricking recycled toilet paper or whatever.

1078
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: And it was saying that, like, you don't need to

1079
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: be perfect, but it was saying that, like, you know

1080
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: how talk to everyone who's trying, you know. And I

1081
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: think that's really important, especially when we're talking on a

1082
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: platform like this as well, because it can be pretty

1083
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: overwhelming to say, change your whole life, do everything differently.

1084
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's about, you know, making small,

1085
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: sustainable changes that will eventually over time add up.

1086
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Now I've realized I've taken up so much your time

1087
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: because we just went off some more.

1088
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: It's so fine, it's so fine. It's been awesome.

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00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: You guys asked nothing. We were just like that would

1090
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: just so to wrap up this interview, I do have

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00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: to ask you. I know you did chat about your

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00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: tools that you used and your essential oils and all

1093
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Can you really quickly go through your

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: morning and night time routine because I'm very interested?

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, amazing. So this changes a lot depends

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: on where I am, but I'm going to tell you

1097
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 2: guys my morning routine if I'm at home, because that's

1098
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: when I like to when it's as perfect as I

1099
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 2: could get it, I suppose, if that makes sense. So

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Speaker 2: when I wake up straight away, I have a bottle

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: of water next to my bed, and while I'm having

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: a bit of a snuggle with Scott, I try and, like,

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00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, drink the water bottle because I'm obviously super

1104
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: dehydrated after the night. Usually in my water bottle I

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00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: have a drop of tangerine oil or lemon oil, and

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00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: that's really great because it kind of adds helps your

1107
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: body like detoxify all the crap that it's kind of

1108
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: been building up overnight. I suppose the oils that I

1109
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: use are a company called Young Living. I chat about

1110
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: it on my househole purpose page on Instagram if anyone

1111
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: is interested. So after I've had my bottle of water,

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: Scott's generally getting ready to go to work, I go

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00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: into the bathroom and I have a tongue scraper, so

1114
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: I scrape my tongue, which is very rewarding and disgusting

1115
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: at the same time, and I brush my teeth and

1116
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: take a shower. In summer, I actually have a cold shower.

1117
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: And I know it sounds a bit crazy, but it's

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01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: really addictive and feels good. In winter, I don't I

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: have a hot shower just because it is too good

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Speaker 2: not too I then generally take my dog for a walk.

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: When I come back, I do put actually on my

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01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: essential oils. I usually put something on in the morning

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01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: that's really grounding, like cedarwood or copa eba. And while

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Speaker 2: I'm doing that, I make myself a celery juice. And

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01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: then kind of once I've had my celery juice, I

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: start to go about planning my day. So whether it's

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01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: like a rest day or I've got a big work

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Speaker 2: day full of meetings or whatever it looks like, but

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Speaker 2: just spending like that hour in the morning, getting ready,

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: walking my dog, getting out in nature, having my celery juice,

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: rehydrating my body. That for me is like so good

1132
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: and sets me up to have a really really good day,

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01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: which is awesome. And then in the evenings, my night

1134
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: routine isn't really cold implicated at all. It used to

1135
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: be a lot more complicated, but these days I just

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01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: focus on I suppose, spending nice time with Scott and Lennie.

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: I also try and get off my phone a couple

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: hours before bed. We've started putting our phones in a

1139
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: different room that is not our bedroom, which is awesome,

1140
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: and I think that that definitely helps for me because

1141
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: if I wake up in the middle of the night,

1142
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: I can't just like reach at it and have the

1143
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: blue light hit my eyes. About two hours before I

1144
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: go to sleep, I go into my bedroom and we

1145
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: have a diffuser on my bedside table, and I put

1146
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: a little concoction into that diffuser of lavender, Rudo Valla,

1147
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: and cedarwood, and they're all really beautiful oils for calming

1148
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: and promoting melatonin production, which is a chemical in your

1149
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: brain which helps you go to sleep. So by the

1150
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: time we're snuggling into bed, the room smells amazing, and

1151
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: I suppose now that I've been using them for so long,

1152
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: it kind of makes my body just instantly slow down.

1153
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: And I generally take a hot shower before bed as well,

1154
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: because for me, that kind of helps me relax. The

1155
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: only other things that I might do of an evening

1156
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: is have a sleepy tea, you know, like a herbal tea.

1157
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: We just get a brown from Woolies. It's you know,

1158
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: super chill, nothing crazy or hectic, and then generally I'll

1159
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: just moisturize and I will either use an oil on

1160
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: my skin if it's really dry, with something like Frank Consense,

1161
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: or I'll just go for like a plain moisturizer, like

1162
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: a you know, a non essential oil moisturizer. But once again,

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Speaker 2: it kind of just depends on how I'm feeling and

1164
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: if I need extra hydration because I've been flying or whatnot.

1165
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: That all sounded so good. I absolutely love essential oils too.

1166
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm such a big believer in it to completely shift

1167
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: you into a certain mindset that you need to be,

1168
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: or you know, into a certain mood, like if you

1169
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: need to be more relaxed or more grounded.

1170
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: Or more focused.

1171
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: So I love that you touch on that.

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01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's actually crazy, like I love them and

1173
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: I use them, but they actually legitimately do work. Like

1174
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: the other day, I was in Italy and I you know,

1175
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: sometimes when you're tired, you're hungry, you can become maybe

1176
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: a bit anxious. Well I know, I do. I was

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01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 2: just overexhausted and I was anxious in my hotel room

1178
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: and I felt like I had like, you know, a

1179
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: bit of a panic attack coming on, where you feel

1180
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: a bit short of breath and sweaty, and I just

1181
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: like ran for my essential oils and grab my lavender

1182
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: and my cedar wood and like pop them on my

1183
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: feet and my wrists and like inhaled them. And it's

1184
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: crazy like how much they helped me settle down naturally.

1185
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: And it's really it's mental to think how many people

1186
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: would be going for like some sort of prescription medication

1187
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: if they started to feel like they had a panic attack.

1188
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: But you can just get like, you know, some good

1189
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: old lavender oil and it will help you so much.

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: Like before I put my podcast, I have a diffuse

1191
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: from my office and I just grabbed my essential oil

1192
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: and it's got in it organic lemon, rosemary, peppermint and

1193
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: say and it's like a focus one And so I

1194
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: find my body because I'm used to it now. Like

1195
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: when I smell this, it's like it's work time, it's

1196
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: focused time, and it does it completely shifts your mood

1197
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: and your senses for sure.

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you love them. I feel like

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01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: we need to hang out. I feel like we like

1200
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: the same shit this friend. Please we definitely.

1201
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: Just did you are amazing. I am so happy I

1202
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: got you on the phone phone the show. I'm so

1203
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: happy I got you on the show and built out

1204
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: the courage to ask you so thank you so much

1205
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: before you go, though, I do want to quickly ask you,

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: do you have a recommendation for the audience, you know,

1207
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: just something you're reading, watching, listening to. I personally love recommendations.

1208
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: I just finished a book by Moby. Moby is like

1209
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: he's like a nineties DJ rock star. It's called Then

1210
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: It Fell Apart. It's about his journey through mental health

1211
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: and self awareness and how I suppose the perils of

1212
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: the music industry affected him and his mental health. So

1213
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: if you're ever wondering what the life of a DJ

1214
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: looks like behind the scenes, especially of a very successful DJ,

1215
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: then I would highly recommend it. It's called Then It

1216
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: Fell Apart by Moby. Maybe they're really really good. And

1217
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: then what am I watching? I'm actually not watching anything

1218
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: at the moment. I just finished Game of Thrones. I

1219
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: only started watching it a few months ago, so I

1220
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: was very late to the party. But I thoroughly enjoyed it.

1221
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: So I'm actually going to go back and read all

1222
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: the books now. That's my plan for what I'm going

1223
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: to read next.

1224
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: I definitely saw some Instagram stories. I think that your

1225
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: manager are something posted and you're like watching it and

1226
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: so much a Marria.

1227
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: God. Yes, I was like crying one minute, then laughing

1228
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: the next minute, then like so scared the next minute.

1229
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's crazy. Have you watched it?

1230
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: I haven't. I personally like I'm not really into like

1231
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: medieval times, so I'm really resistant.

1232
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Do your hundred you know what. I was so not

1233
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: into it either, Like I was like, fuck Game of Thrones,

1234
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: not into it and not about any of it. Like

1235
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: I enjoyed Harry Potter as a child like reading that stuff,

1236
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: but I never like super got into Star Wars or

1237
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings or anything. So I was like,

1238
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like it. I just don't get it anyway.

1239
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: One of like my friends just said, you know what,

1240
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 2: you've got nothing to lose. You've got like so much

1241
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: traveling this year. Why don't you just like watch a

1242
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: season and see if you like it? And I was like,

1243
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: you know what I do? So I watched the first

1244
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: season and I became so hooked. It's just you don't

1245
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: necessarily need to like medieval stuff. It's just got really

1246
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: great character developments and interesting storylines. The costume design is great.

1247
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: The set is great, the filming is great. I I'm

1248
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: a massive fan now and I would have never been

1249
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: to the point where I literally started watching in April

1250
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: this year, so I was like eight years late to

1251
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: the party and now I'm like Game of Thrones for life.

1252
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: You are so funny. I'm by it.

1253
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: You're like kind of pursue.

1254
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: Maybe just like watch half the first season and if

1255
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: you like it, then keep going. But if you don't

1256
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: like it, you'll probably have a good indication that you're

1257
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: not going to get into it.

1258
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: Finally, I have to that's gonna make it's so funny.

1259
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: Is funny? Thank you so much for your time today.

1260
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: Can you let the audience know where they can find you.

1261
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: Yes. First of all, thank you so much for having me.

1262
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: It's been such a beautiful conversation. You guys can find me,

1263
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: of course on Instagram. I am just DJ Tiger Lily.

1264
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: I also have a website, it's once again djtiger Lily

1265
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: dot com. You can find my music on Spotify. I

1266
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: also have a podcast that comes out weekly. It's a

1267
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: music podcast, so great. If you guys like to work

1268
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: out at the gym, you can listen to that or

1269
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: listen to it when you go for a run. I'm

1270
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: also on Twitter and YouTube and Facebook, but slightly less

1271
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: inactive on this platforms, so yeah, Instagram and Spotify and

1272
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: iTunes would be the main ones that I would suggest.

1273
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: Amazing, and guys, I can totally vouch for that podcast.

1274
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 2: It's really good.

1275
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: So good on you, of course, and I'll make sure

1276
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: I put all the links in the show notes. Guys,

1277
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: so check that out and I'll see you next time.

1278
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening in to this week's episode.

1279
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: If you love to Rise and Conquer and you're craving

1280
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: more community, I have.

1281
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: Got your girl, friend.

1282
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: I was feeling the exact same, so I'm very excited

1283
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: to announce that we have made a close Rise and

1284
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: Conquer Facebook community group. To join our girl gang, head

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Speaker 1: to Facebook and search Rise and Conquer podcast community, or

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Speaker 1: head to the show notes for the link. I decided

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Speaker 1: to create this community for like minded women who are

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Speaker 1: searching for a safe and positive space for us to

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Speaker 1: share our stories, to ask for advice, and interact together. Lastly,

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Speaker 1: if you know someone who would benefit from this episode,

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Speaker 1: please make sure you share it with them, or even

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Speaker 1: take a screenshot and share it on your Instagram. Stories.

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Speaker 1: I really really appreciate all the support, and this is

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Speaker 1: a total independent podcast, so any sort of sharing involved

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Speaker 1: I really really appreciate. Also, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: beyond this episode, check out our official Instagram at Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer dot podcast or my personal Instagram at Georgie Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: I hope you have an amazing day or night. Whenever

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Speaker 1: you're listening, by for now and talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Stop speak Spot